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  1. Fast forward to astronaut training. It's all about a flat sort of leadership structure. It's all about the communication skills, the soft skills that are required to work with international partners, scientists all around the world.

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  2. Yeah, so I was their platoon commander and having to try and keep control of them. And, you know, get them to do things they really didn't want to do. And that's where the military training helps because it's all about the leadership training, but it's very autocratic. It's very hierarchical. That rank structure helps. And there's an element of they'll do what they're told because you're wearing the rank, but that will only get you so far. You have to earn their respect and you have to do it quickly if you want to really achieve good results. So the military training, it's a hard course, obviously. That's what Santos is there to do. It's there to prepare you. It's to give you the tools that you need to be able to command people.

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  3. Yeah, absolutely. And so very young, I took a gap year out after my A levels, worked in a pub, raised some money, went to Alaska on Operation Rally as it was then. The army had said, just, you know, you were a bit too young. Go and get some experience and then come back to us and come to Santa's. So you're taking young individuals. And I just spent a year at Santurst and then I was straight out to Northern Ireland with...

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  4. That's an interesting question because the way the army trains, it's taking very young individuals normally. I was 19. Yes,

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  5. Yes, I mean, clearly we've had the challenger, the Columbia disasters on the Soviet side as well. We've had a number of cosmonauts die in unpressurized capsule that returned to Earth. So space is difficult. We are pushing the boundaries. And I think today we get a little bit complacent when we watch rockets launching into space thinking it's easy. It's not really any easier. We're always pushing the limits of technology.

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  6. I did actually, yes. I wrote a letter to my boys, to my family, which was probably the hardest thing I've ever had to write. The last time that I ever remember crying in my life was shortly after writing the letter and just hoping that they would never ever have to read it. But I guess in some respects you've got the luxury of knowing that you're putting yourself in harm's where many people don't have that luxury. But in that case, you can prepare for those eventualities. And one of the things that gives us comfort is the knowledge that we have this immense family support network that will be there to help in the event that something does go wrong.

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  7. Yeah. No, I thought so as well when we think how young Garin was. I thought it was a very emotionally mature and very moving letter. And yes, understandably, you're going to prepare for those eventualities. Do you?

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  8. Good communication skills. I think an understanding of risk, certainly in order to do something like that, you've got to be comfortable with risk. I'm not sure you have the love risk, but you've got to be comfortable with it and understand the risk that you're taking.

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  9. It is quite brutal, absolutely. I think you would always question that. It was a bit the same for John Glenn. He was quite convinced he was going to be picked as the first American in space. And when Al Shepard was picked, that was clearly a huge blow and something that he had to deal with. And you're talking about individuals here who have got egos. That's part of the reason why they had the job at the time. It was the pool, the narrow pool of fastjet test pilots that both the Soviets and the Americans decided to select from. And you can understand why, because they had already a set of capabilities that were going to be useful for flying a spacecraft, doing rendezvous, docking, and landing on the moon. Why open up the pool any larger than that?

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  10. Yes, I think we would appreciate, of course, once you get down to that level of selection, they've been through so much. These are two individuals on both sides, who could equally well do the job. And so that wasn't in question. So you had to start looking at the other factors. It wasn't about technical capability. And in the case of, you know, you get T-toff and Gagarin, it was unfortunate, German Titov, you know, his post-Second World War sounded a bit like German. And Titov was a bit more of a white-collar background and Gagarin had that sort of blue collar background who's kind of resonated more with the Soviet population and had a winning smile. And they were the factors that, you know, they made him become the first human space.

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  11. About. But if you just say, what was it like? I mean, you're going to do the Pete Conrad thing and say, yeah, super enjoy it.

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  12. So, where are you on that scale? Those brilliant responses, Pete, Conrad, an absolute hero of mine. I would have loved to have met him. He sounds like just such a character. So I'm probably on the Pete Conrad side. And I think that that was his answer to what was really, I think, lazy questioning because you think these people, they've come back, they've flown on a Saturn V rocket three days to the moon, landed on the surface, driven around in rovers for some of them, come back and all you can say is, what was it like? I mean, I was spoke to Charlie Duke, again. I'm a huge fan of his. And I had so many questions, but they were detailed questions. Like, how far did the regolith come up your boots? Were there patches where it was deeper than others? So put some thought and effort into the questions. And these astronauts light up and they are delighted to have a conversation because it takes them back and it forces them to remember details that they've perhaps forgotten about or hadn't been asked.

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  13. Potentially yes to then service those Mars missions. And of course, when you scale back your operations, but you still want to have an outpost in space for all of the scientific research that we want to do, the natural conclusion to that was to actually build a space station around Earth in Earth's orbit. And once you start plowing your funds into that, it doesn't leave anything left over for a deep space.

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  14. It's unsustainable. So it had to achieve a goal and it did achieve the goal. And it was a means to an end. But at the time, of course, NASA hoped and thought that perhaps this level of development and innovation would continue. And they had plans to develop this beyond the moon to go to Mars in the 1980s to have an orbital space station. And that didn't come to fruition because the budgets were cut.

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  15. Yes, I mean, again, when you look at what was happening in the Apollo era, it was incredible to look back now and to see what was achieved with the technology they had. But then you look at the budget that they were spending. The peak of the Apollo program is about 4.9% of the US GDP going into the Apollo program.

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  16. Absolutely. It is like so much of science fiction today is based on what we know actually can happen. We just haven't got the technology quite there. I wish fusion energy was a reality today. It's always been just 20 years in the future. I genuinely think we are now, you know, less than 20 years away, in fact, of that becoming a reality, clean, limitless energy. But these things that we can see that are based on fact, we just haven't quite got the technology yet to do it.

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  17. Really, the difference in launch capability is one thing to get into low Earth orbit. You have to get to 17,500 miles an hour. It's quite a fast speed. That certainly takes a lot of technology. And at the time, of course, intercontinental ballistic missiles were being developed, part of the nuclear space race. And so that technology was also part of their critical defense infrastructure as well. And hence it had huge spin-offs into other areas they're interested in. But getting out of Earth's gravity, getting into low Earth orbit is one thing. To get to the moon, you have to have a huge amount of extra fuel. You have to actually have a trajectory that can escape Earth's gravity and get captured by the Moon's gravity. That takes a different rocket. And the United States knew that to develop a rocket that was powerful enough, that capable enough of putting humans on the surface of the moon with a lander capabilities as well.

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  18. And the United States were really desperately trying to catch up. And it was as the missions became more ambitious, really, it was the goal to go to the moon. That's why the United States and President Kennedy chose that goal. It was an opportunity to give them breathing space to have a goal that they knew would challenge the Soviets and that they knew they had a chance of beating them at it.

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  19. Beat them absolutely. It was at the classic space race of the late 50s and early 60s where the Soviets were definitely ahead of the game initially. And Sputnik going over the continental United States with the Americans just left listening to this beeping from a satellite was a real wake-up call. And it took them several years before they actually advanced and overtook the Soviets in what they were doing. You know, Gagar in 1961, first human in space. And Alexei Leonov, the first person to do a spacewalk. Valentina Tereshkova, 63, first female in space. Dog? Their first dog. The Soviets were getting all these first double launch.

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  20. Was most definitely the first British astronomer. But yeah, hello, Alistair and Rory, and good to be talking to you today. Yes, I mean, and Helen flew in 1991 to the Mir space station. And it was a groundbreaking moment because up until then, we just watched other nations fly to space predominantly the United States and the Russians. And it wasn't really something we thought we could be part of. And Helen's mission, unfortunately, was a one-off as well, a commercially sponsored mission. And it didn't lead at the time to the UK becoming involved in the human spaceflight program. So we had seen the Union flag fly in space, but then it had to wait a number of years, over 20 years, in fact, before I got accepted into the core, the European National Corps.

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