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Tim Shriver

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  1. There are plenty of clashes to be had, but there's plenty of good stories to be had, too. And if you look at this generation, I mean, the work I do around disability and intellectual disability, inclusion in schools and early childhood centers and healthcare, I mean, it's a booming transformation in the country right now. We're right in the middle of probably the greatest revolution on the part of this community in the way education takes place that's ever been held. Maybe you could say 94, 142 when the schools were forcibly, if you will, integrated. But now we're seeing relationships change. We're seeing friendships grow. We're seeing sports teams burgeon. We're seeing employment opportunities and transitions from school to work. I mean, things that we never dreamed were possible, those of us like you who have been in this...

    2018-07-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 260 - Tim Shriver · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  2. I've seen it myself, and I think the story of the American citizen activist, the citizen politician, if you will, the citizen who's committed to the future of the country, to his or her community in and of itself. I mean, that story is still alive. Well, we don't see it. The media misses it still largely, I think, in my view at least, skirts over it, looks for the big headline, looks for the clash, looks for the conflict, looks for the playing clash.

    2018-07-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 260 - Tim Shriver · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  3. Well, obviously couldn't agree with you more, David. And I think the challenge of taking for granted the country or trying to get everything you can out of the country or having a sort of a selfish or greedy approach to the country, I think is overstated. I think average Americans still give enormous amounts of time to their faith-based institutions, to their civic organizations, to their neighbors. Indeed, to people who are in senior safety.

    2018-07-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 260 - Tim Shriver · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  4. Well, in those days, the world admired us. I mean, the United States was the global icon for the world. So it was a different time.

    2018-07-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 260 - Tim Shriver · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  5. Enormous, we have enormous affection for France, I think, as a function of having lived there at an early age, but also an appreciation for what the global platform of the United States can and should look like.

    2018-07-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 260 - Tim Shriver · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  6. France itself, Paris was undergoing enormous turmoil. There were riots in Paris in that period of time. The peace negotiations to try to end the war in Vietnam were going on secretly in Paris at the time. Averell Harriman, Cyrus Vance were negotiating with their North Korean counterparts. All that was, of course, missing in my life. I was just a kid going in and out of various elementary schools. But I think in some ways it impacted all of us, my siblings and I, in the sense that we'd heard about the Peace Corps. But now we were living in a new country, learning a new language, seeing different cultures. It wasn't radically different, of course, from the United States. Paris is not exactly a developing country. That's for sure. But at least we started to see that the ways in which we could learn about other people could be natural and joyful and hopeful. And I think all of us, my siblings and I had

    2018-07-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 260 - Tim Shriver · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  7. Well, we moved to France when I was eight years old, so I was a little kid. I didn't want to leave. I had friends, all those kinds of things. But we moved and it turned out to be fantastic. I lived in Paris and rode the subway and ate French pastries. In the meantime, of course, the country was, we moved in 1968. In the spring of 1968, we came back. Of course, during the summer of 68 as little children.

    2018-07-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 260 - Tim Shriver · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  8. And so, you know, being asked to run for national office on the ticket, I don't think he evaluated it according to the odds. I don't think he looked at it according to whether his political future would be helped or hurt by it, whether he would be enhanced or diminished by the association with Senator McGovern. I think he saw it as a chance to share his enthusiasm for the country he fought to defend, the country he fought to build up, the country he fought to make better. He wanted in. I mean, he just wanted in.

    2018-07-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 260 - Tim Shriver · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  9. But I think from my dad, the worst thing next to death was not competing and not being in the arena. I mean, he just wanted to be in the action. I mean, I remember driving to work with him when we moved to Washington, we lived with my parents for a short period of time. And they lived out in Maryland, and the office was downtown, and I was driving down one day. And I said to him, you know, wouldn't you like you and like to move downtown? You could be close to, you know, or move the office, I shouldn't say. I said move the office out where you live. He said, hell no. I want to be down where the action is. This was at 87. So my dad wanted to be in the arena and he wanted to be in the arena for things he believed in. And he wanted to almost magnet mysteriously communicate his deep belief to others.

    2018-07-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 260 - Tim Shriver · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  10. To end the discrimination against people with intellectual disabilities. Ask young Americans to cross the street to enter the institution, to break down the wall, to play together. Ask people to create early childhood programs. So ask the mothers to come into the Head Start Centers, volunteer and get paid to actually make sure their children get early supports that would make it more likely for them to be able to learn optimally. I mean, both my parents believed in faith as in the broadest possible sense that everybody's got one, tap into it, pull it out of people, invite them to find their best selves by giving themselves away.

    2018-07-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 260 - Tim Shriver · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  11. Catholic faith and by his belief that every person had a certain kind of spiritual strength and faith and openness and willingness to give of themselves, I mean, that was his big conviction. And my mom's too. They both are known, actually, if you think about it, David, as people who created movements driven by volunteers. In other words, they both understood that to ask people was not just a rhetorical or a political idea, but a concrete solution strategy for changing the world, for creating peace between countries that were at war. Ask young Americans to go live with them.

    2018-07-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 260 - Tim Shriver · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  12. It's a different point of view. You know, my dad was animated by an extraordinary faith. He just kept it so strongly in his center of his being. He's Catholic.

    2018-07-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 260 - Tim Shriver · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  13. It was real exuberance. I find it ironic that just last week the current administration declared the war on poverty over because it had been successful in eradicating poverty from the country. Some 60 years later. They got

    2018-07-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 260 - Tim Shriver · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  14. Yeah, I would say at various times our kids would say, you know, dad, you never made this possible or mom, we never talk about that. Yeah, but I just say I can say that. Yeah, that's right. That's an important thing to have.

    2018-07-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 260 - Tim Shriver · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  15. Well, I think Linda and I parented differently than our parents, but in all four of our parents, I should say, I think we tried to create much more of a open language around emotion, you know, good emotion, positive emotions, negative emotions. They're all okay. I think we've many in our generation have raised children to believe that it's healthy and important to be able to express your emotional feelings at different times in your life, to be able to manage your stress, to develop strategies around that, to be able to connect with people when you need help, to seek help. So we've spent a fair amount of time trying to do that. I'm not sure how far.

    2018-07-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 260 - Tim Shriver · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  16. The suck it up thing. Well, we did. I think that's. Know, I don't think my parents' generation had the tools or the understanding of loss or grief that maybe we take for granted in today's day and age. And so they were very much focused on the fact that we all had a faith that we shared that promised clarity and safety in some future that we couldn't quite anticipate and that after that the rest was to be You know, just move on, you just keep going. I mean, I got that lesson over and over again as a kid, you know, somebody would die and you just, okay, now you go sailing. And I'm like, wait a minute. Keep going.

    2018-07-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 260 - Tim Shriver · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  17. And that's okay. I'm sort of after about 45. I finally got used to it. Finally developed enough an internal spine to be able to handle complete anonymity and personal confusion and not being understood or known as an individual. But one of the great privileges of life is to have a family that in some ways defines you, that helps you, that supports you, that you're a part of. People are looking for belonging. People are looking for intimacy, for relationship, for the power that comes from the group. We got a lot of it. Sometimes maybe it seems like too much, but it is a privilege to have parents and uncles and aunts like I had.

    2018-07-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 260 - Tim Shriver · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  18. Well, I think it in two ways, I'd say. The first is I think it, growing up in my family, we were always invited to think big, to think that seemingly impossible things were possible, to think that maybe against all odds you could do something incredible and the whole world might pay attention because we'd seen this happen in our parents' generation over and over again, actually. So I think the upside of growing up in a family that has the privilege of being listened to or paid attention to or followed in some sense is that as a little kid, you start to think, well, impossible things are really possible. I mean, the downside is, you know, you sacrifice a lot of family. I mean, you lose your parents a lot. You're alone a lot. You're never really clear on who you are as opposed to who everybody else is. I've spent my whole life with people asking me, which one are you?

    2018-07-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 260 - Tim Shriver · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  19. Yeah, well, I mean, of course, no one really knows anything other than their own experience, so I only know one family to grow up in just like everybody else only knows one family. So I have nothing to compare her to. But most don't do

    2018-07-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 260 - Tim Shriver · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source