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  1. And I love the book because it's an antidote to this old Giza syndrome whereby you're just less attentive to more recent music. Having a teenager in the house is also a great antidote to this and I'm very grateful to my daughter and son for the music they bring into my life, which I would just be oblivious to. Fading that in the meantime, you've got long players edited by Tom Gutty.

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  2. part of getting older and the process of kind of turning into your parents is and you always swore that you would never be this kind of somewhat older person it creeps upon you you Grow a slight prejudice in favour of music that was that furnished your world when you were in your twenties and thirties to mid thirties and as the years creep by you form a slight prejudice against music music that's happened since you know you shouldn't you know it's not healthy yet the default mode is for this to happen you know more about the music your knowledge was and remains more encyclopedic about the music you grew up with and which filled the world when your generation was at the center stage of the world this is this is an impulse to be resisted it's no good at all it means you'll miss some great stuff made by people young enough to be your kids as you get older and you mustn't do that it's a form of artistic self-harm

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  3. Totum connected to Vitual I want something really damn good coming into my ears to remind me that there's no point in writing unless you're going to at least aspire to making your own writing as really damn good as the music you're hearing. I get this from other places when I'm not writing, not just because Tom is the deputy editor of the new statesman, but I like the book reviews in the new statesman, especially book reviews, especially glowing, glow in the dark effusive book reviews because they make me more than a little bit envious. They make me think, damn, damn, there's someone up there who's really great. And I'm pleased it makes the ecosystem of my art form richer. And I'm glad it's that. And I'm also pleased because it's this little, little reminder in the corner of my mind to up your game and to keep it upped. That's also what music is for when I write.

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  4. Rituals of evocation are a part of that. There may be ridiculously prosaic I make tea, I choose a tea for my extensive tea range, and I need the music. I'm more hardcore in terms of no words than pre tea. No voices in any language that I have the slightest bit of knowledge of. Then it can be vocal music. Other than that, it's got to be instrumental. Luckily in this day and age, that hardly narrows the field down to problematic dimensions. I'll just add one more thing as well, the idea that it is

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  5. Beautifully expressed, I can't really improve on your answer. It's a matter of ritual for me too. I'm both slightly resistant to the idea of Mystification that is contained in ritual Two things at once. A, it's not that mysterious, it's just something we do. Come on, we sort of sit down and make sentences as opposed to sit down and write in code for a computer or... Going out in the garden and doing things in the greenhouses, this is what we do yet at the same time. B, I also think it is pretty mystic actually. But where do these voices come from? Whose are they? How come we can evoke a metaphor from nowhere? Maybe this is pretty heavy shit, really. And maybe we should it's no harm to think of it in those terms. And yes, we

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  6. Years go by and other sort of the ocean sediment settles over that and I find I start to listen to it again and it stops hurting and I actually value it more because the hurt me is there but there's other me's there's older me's and newer me's maybe me's I like more certainly me's that might be more comfortable in their own skin maybe more comfortable with relationships too as for music so for locations as well but we're here to talk about the music so I'll stick to that I jumped in there a little bit rudely Tom over to you

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  7. If we could super just really quickly, I find that really interesting. I'm over-reliant on metaphors, as you can hear, but I think maybe it's inevitable when we're talking about music, which isn't made of words. Maybe we can only speak about it in metaphor. Maybe that's what's metaphor. Maybe that's what metaphor is for, to speak about things you can't speak about in any other way. I think of it in terms of strata, geological strata. I've got this big thick chunk. This was a breakup song with this person, and for a few years I can't, I have to avoid it because it brings back the pain. The song contains the pain.

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  8. Maker of the makers of LPs are dead. They've gone. And yet the album is still in these few places. Music from that point of view, I guess, can transcend mortality even. It does. We listen to things written six hundred years ago, and they sound great. Am I going with this? Rand around the houses. Over to you, pretty.

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  9. The song is like, at least for me, the question is somewhat predicated upon an impossibility or a paradox. You can't spoil a great song by overlisting. I've noticed I'm 52, so I've been playing some pieces of music for four decades. They evolve over time. They evolve with me and with the world. Some sound better now than I remember them sounding when they were new. Some songs have this quality. It just reiterates the idea for me that art exists. Art is a kind of trinity. It exists in three places, the mind of its maker, the artifact that is made, and then the mind that is the recipient. That is where everything is. It's in those three places at once. That is where Blondon blonde by Bob Dylan is. It's in those three places, often increasingly as the years roll by the

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  10. I think just as you said that little objection in my voice said If you can listen to it if you can ruin it, if it's ruinable by overlistening, it can't be a great song. It wasn't one in the first place. I think some songs it would be discourteous to name names, but some sound wonderful the first time you hear. Sugar content is incredible. They look great. There's irresistible cupcakes that they've gone. And then they really have gone. And each successive listen is a case of diminishing returns. Other songs are more like slow release fertilizer. This little bit comes out and it doesn't do much for you the first time you hear it. Maybe the first three or four times you hear it. But then you start noticing that you hear the refrain in your head, you mind sing it. That tends to be great music, I think. So I would say actually...

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  11. You lined up a little bit of an open goal there, Tom. What album is more cool than the Benz when you said you rejected other more cool albums? I mean, I may be wrong. What would I know? But is this not, sir, the epitome of the cool album?

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  12. That makes me think how perhaps a workman was a juxtaposition engine. It juxtaposes the owl with the visual, and it makes me think that perhaps it enabled this new thing, this new quality that could enter music, which is motion, in sense the moving picture, the moving picture that's coming in through your eyeballs. It seems a very persuasive view indeed that a song off the top of my head Bohemian rhapsody by Queen experienced through earphones or through speakers while you're stationary is a somewhat different song than it would be if you're walking along Oxen Street

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  13. Feet away close to your table, but it's also important perhaps because artists knew this as well and perhaps it brought about a new approach to music written, designed to be experienced through headphones. It's perhaps an instance of a Walkman, perhaps an instance of technology leading the art. I don't know what you think, Pretty.

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  14. I would say it's a different experience, isn't it? Just listening to something in headphones and not however great your speaker system is, or however crappy your earphones were, and mine were crappy. When the source of the sound is in your ear canal, there is nothing else, there's nothing else but the voice. It's perhaps one of the few times when for sighted people the visual sense takes a back seat. It's all about the owl sense. And I think it's important because somehow you're plugged into the music in a way that you aren't, even if the speaker's for

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  15. Once I thought about it a little and let the dust of my vanity settle it had to be blue by Jenny Mitchell. I think I should hand over the baton at this stage. My co panelist Preeti has an album from appropriately enough a different era because she's from a different era and I'd love to hear your reasons if I may, Preeti, for your choice of midnight marauders by a tribe called Quest.

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  16. Of all of the songs back then there were no internet sites to look things up, of course, but even without knowing it, the rawness, the way that she plugs herself into the nervous system of the world in that album, she unpeels her epidermis and says, look, there's a song Little Green about a child she the real Jenny Mitchell. This isn't fiction, gave up for adoption. To turn that into a song I didn't quite understand that was what the song was about, but somehow I knew and I suppose these things made it a transformative listening experience for me, a transporting listening experience in my memory it's about thirty five minutes to play so I walked home and I remember the weather I remember the I remember a few of the encounters I had along the way it's just become a thing in my memory so for all of these reasons

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  17. next to each other in a sentence I had simply never Why did you put this word next to that one seriously? Wow wow look at that It taught me that when writing is that good you pay attention because you don't amiss anything I had no music like that and I think to be fair until she brought that out there wasn't a lot like that as well and also the lyrics were important because they were about such intimate intimate undiscussible things. I didn't know the backstory

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  18. And yes, I've never heard anything like it. It's sparseness. It was pure. It had almost nothing on it, just a guitar and appellation at Dulcima, and I had no idea what that was. A little bit of percussion here and there, just a lick, a keyboard occasionally river starts with a piano, and almost nothing else. I didn't know anything else like that, some bass then the lyrics. I also had never known that you could write well, the lyrics important for two reasons it's as close to poetry as lyrics get, certainly in my experience up to then, and actually since then as well. The rhymes she generates, it made me understand that most of the music I had in my fledgling music collection was drosily glossily prosaic and formula based and tropy. She rhymed words I had simply never heard rhyme before. She put words

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  19. It's just her face and her soul, and nothing but, and I intuited that this was going to be rather different to out of the blue by ELO or moving pictures by rush or something else I had. This was going to be different and also the fact we have the same name. There was no such thing as a famous Mitchell. So, hey, someone called Mitchell had made a record. That's a good start. These trivial little reasons, not just for choosing albums, but for more important things in life. They do actually add up and matter. So I put the cassette, I put it into my warpman, and I walked home.

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  20. eighteen it had been about the A levels and I'm thinking about this now because my daughter's at exactly the same point she's she's got her last leaving cert in the morning there's this sort of watershed where okay school compulsory school is now officially done with you now what that was the morning that now what morning was when I walked into a Eckle shop never for a very long time counterpoint in Great Malvern bought the cassette of the album we can see here it had caught my eye I didn't know much about it this is all pre internet I had no way of knowing what was on it I employed a sort of voodoo to choose albums in those days unless you were more well connected than I was but there was something about it The art wasn't trying too hard was crucial in those days it really mattered and something about this image that spoke to me. It's not trying too hard.

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  21. statement as an MRI scan of the soul. I chose blue because it did a number of things that I just didn't know an album could do. I also chose it just because life is of course a continuum, but we don't really think of it in terms of that. We think of life as a narrative and narratives have Chapters they have sub narratives we impose an order upon the chaos. The order isn't there, but it's just something human beings do. And Blue by Jenny Mitchell was sort of the moment my adulthood began. Not because of any great, unique earth-shaking experience. Those are pretty On the ground, if you were growing up in Worcestershire in the early 1980s, at least they were in my house. But I bought it the day after my last A-level. And all of my childhood and those, well, up to age.

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  22. I don't know why, but it's lovely to there's just some affirming and communal to realize the obvious that you're not the only person for whom an album, either an album you know, or often actually an album you don't know can be so important, can be in your heart. So to answer your question, yes, I did think about it for a while. The vain part of me wanted to pick something. I wouldn't have gone for fragile by yes like George Saunders. I'm too vain for that. But of course inauthenticity for a project like this would also be a pointless exercise as well. So I sort of chose what I think of as my first album. It wasn't my first album. I had noisier, younger music, but I chose Jenny Mitchell's blue because it was the first time I saw an album as an artistic.

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  23. First, I should say thank you for that full and interesting answer. And when I next need a creation myth for one of my books, I know where I'm going to come because that was just great. I suppose I would also just observe how, just as there's a spectrum, and this feeds into an answer to your question, just as there's a spectrum of music.

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  24. Hello podcast listeners. I'm Connor and welcome to this week's episode of Intelligence Squared. Today we're joined by self-described music obsessive and journalist Tom Gaddy. He's the editor of a new music anthology called Long Players, and in conversation with acclaimed novelist David Mitchell and writer and activist Preddy Tenasia, they discuss how our favorite albums become our most faithful companions and the soundtracks to our lives. It's a really fascinating conversation and if you do enjoy it, you can find a link for long players in the podcast description. But now let's go to the episode. Hello everybody, it's great to be here and thank you for joining us on this Monday night. I've elbowed my way to the front of the initially just because I've been deputized to ask the deputy editor of the new statesman, Tom here, about the genesis of the book. All books need a creation myth mate. And so what is the creation myth of long players?

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