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  1. “Well, as an American, it concerns me because it's monkeying around with our Constitution. And it's relatively obvious, I think, what is trying to going for. When you tear down these institutions to a level of say you can't believe anything that is in any of them, that raises the stock of those agenda-filled other institutions or whatnot so that if you can't believe them, well, that means you get to believe some of the other stuff that is in these. And so what is happening is a dilution, a dilution of the great, you know, they're throwing dirt and oil into a bucket of water. So it all becomes undrinkable after a while. conspiracy theorists ends up having the same amount of purchase as 27 reporters who are trying to get to the bottom.”

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  2. “That's a crime. Freedom of assembly means you get to get together and hang out all you want to with whoever you want to. Burning down a synagogue is not going to be allowed by that, but short of committing crimes and assaults, you get to assemble with any group you want to, any religion. Freedom the press requires the same sort of absolute that you, we live in a country where we are able to publish and anybody who gets to say whatever they want to based on, I think an individual contract that your organ has with society as a whole. If your contract is, we're going to not only get the truth, but we're going to double and triple check it and we're going to go a far distance so that by the time you read what our findings are, you can have”

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  3. “Okay, the The point that it takes is this, is that we are not the United States of America without the First Amendment. The freedom of speech means you get to say whatever you want to say outside of screaming fire in a crowded theater because people can die. That's not freedom of speech.”

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  4. “And you go back to the news organizations that published or broadcast or talked about that story as though it was a fact nearly resulted in a guy with a gun shooting up a bunch of people in a pizzeria in suburban Washington, D.C. That's an example of there was no fact there. So the idea that they're, and you can go, look, who was the guy that ran the Chicago Tribune during World War I? Colonel McCormick? Colonel McCormick. All right. You know, he printed his own versions of the facts.”

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  5. “Well, it comes back down to what facts are you going to choose? If you read about, like, I just heard this thing on National Public Radio, the history of the Pizzagate story, the Comet Pizzagate story, it's madness.”

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  6. “Richard Nixon was. And that's what tyrants do. That's what crappy communist dictators do on the smaller countries on the other side. This is what Banana Republic dictators do. They shut down the newspapers. They keep them from printing, whatever stories it is. I think it's interesting, David, because the questions, you know, as we go on and talk about this movie, it's all about fake news. There's always been fake news. When they wrote the Constitution of the United States, there were daily newspapers that printed one side of the story without any regard to what the truth is. They have agendas, and they've always gone out and tried to tell only their side of what the story is, or it's sometimes outright lie. You know, Frank Sinatra fought against fake news for crying out loud between gossip and the real other tubes.”

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  7. “Yeah, they came up with that number one. The other stuff, they thought, we should think about that too. But those three things alone, and you had a president of the United States who is trying to shut down, literally trying to keep from publishing.”

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  8. “Robert McNamara because he says, We're in this mess. How did we get here? And it was just the story of how we ended up in Vietnam. The Washington Post found their own copies of enough of the pages in order to print their own stories on the Washington papers. But the threat was if we do, are we committing treason? If we do... We're committing a crime based on what the government was saying. So the assault on the First Amendment was pretty basic. The assault was you could take, I think you could almost take away the rest of the Constitution, but as long as you have that First Amendment, everything else could probably be defined by it. Freedom of speech, freedom of assembly, freedom of the press.”

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  9. “The New York Times, who had already run these huge stories on it, was shut down, in fact. Is it enjoined? What is the word? Enjoyed. We were enjoined from publishing anymore by the government, by the Justice Department. They were shut down by agents of the President of the United States. Under the auspices, it's treasonous to publish this report that essentially just tells what happens since 1947. I think the actual report It was already five years old that it existed. And there wasn't secret plans in there. There wasn't battle plans. No one's lives were going to be lost. By the publishing of the papers, it was just like, how did we get involved in Vietnam? It was asked to be prepared by the Secretary of Defense.”

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  10. “And it all just happened to occur in the same week. In order to be not just the figurehead, but also the owner and the publisher and the person who made the decisions, Catherine Graham had to decide whether or not to print stories about the Pentagon paper.”

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  11. “Did Steven Spielberg directed it and it's really the story of how Kay Graham came to be Kraham and it just happened to all”

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  12. “States that give order to our lives, that dictate our behaviors, and keep us secure and establish the contracts we have both with our neighbors, with our towns, and with our nation and the rest of the world.”

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  13. “Those facts. The fourth estate. And what are the four? Help me out here. There's government. There's the military. There's religion, and then there's the press.”

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  14. “From a guy who is a lay historian who does it, here's Daniel Moynihan. Had this great saying. Which was you are entitled to your own opinion, but you are not entitled to your own facts. And that's not true anymore. Everybody has their own facts. And they cling to it. And sometimes they're... Insane conspiracy theories, but other times there are interpretations of people's motives. And other times it's like two times two equals four. There's not an accountant in the world that doesn't understand 2 times 2 does in fact equal four. That's a fact. But as soon as you apply that to a measure of ozone in the air or a loss of ice in the polar ice, well, suddenly those facts two times two doesn't equal four anymore. It means there's something else. You can question literally the math.”

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  15. “Will clean the side of the highway or whatnot. I think that we are in a period where that brand of transience is, it's scary. It's like Springsteen says, there's a darkness on the edge of town. At the same time, you want to have an understanding of we take care of our own. There was a type of, well, I just think that we're more afraid right now. I'm not sure that we know what we're afraid of.”

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  16. “The first place. And a lot of that is comes from signals that are sent to us by, I think, organizations or institutions with an agenda. You know, I remember growing up, there was no such thing as littering. You just threw your garbage out. You know, I remember dumping garbage out of cars or, you know, what have you because it wasn't until Ladybird Johnson came along with an idea of keeping America beautiful and stop littering. When everybody stopped littering, guess what? Our cities were a little bit cleaner, and so were the highways and whatnot. And I think we're back to littering. I think we're back to this concept of somebody else is responsible for this, not me. Somebody's job is to clean this up. Some aspect of our tax dollars.”

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  17. “Well, there are times I think when we have a national consciousness of permanence, And other times of great Transience where we feel as though their times are hey, things are going good, and all of our institutions are working according to the contract that we have with them. And our popular culture is reflecting back to us a contentment and a sense of accomplishment. Certainly in the early 1960s, that was an awful lot of what was on TV and was in the movies, the nature of what we heard in all of popular culture. And right now, I think the consensus is that those social contracts have all been broken, that we are often lied to, that we are often kept from knowledge, and then there's a reason to be outraged. And there is a reason to be afraid. And there's a reason to look at outsiders as an upsetting of a status quo that really wasn't working for us.”

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  18. “My dad had skills that he never would have had because of the war. He became a machinist, so he learned hydraulics and stuff like that. But he also had that grander world vision of places where he goed and sites that he had seen. I actually have an example of his VE mail that he's writing a letter to his mom that says absolutely nothing other than here I am. I'm not in the place I was before. I'm at a different place now and some guys down there are talking and going to taking a rocket to the moon, but I don't think there's any japs on the moon so I don't think we'll go there anyway Write to your next, and that's a letter. That type of both isolation at the same time of transportation that goes along, it affected them all. It affected the people that I was closest.”

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  19. “So seeing these grown-ups talk about it in ways because they're no longer, they weren't old folks talking about it, they were young folks talking about it. I always had this sense of those years as being a predominantly weighted time for them in which fate was they had no control over their lives. They had to wait for him. And they talked about it, well, of course, that was during the war when there were no answers to any questions. And then after the war, of course, it was like, we're here and we share that burden with so many other people. There's no reason to talk about it too much because everybody speaks the same common language.”

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  20. “VE Day in 1945, there was no clue as to how long it was going to last. Their lives were in absolute stasis for, let's just say six years. And to go through that for six years, that's an extraordinary acceptance of a brand of fate that you have no control over. You might die. You might never get back. It might be 1952. And guess what? You're still trying to take Saipan or liberate the Netherlands.”

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  21. “Between having 10 cents in the cookie jar and having 45 cents in the cookie jar because that was an entire meal for a family of four, 45 cents. That was before the war. And when they say it, well, you know, of course, that was before the war. Because during the war was this huge cranial shift of their vision of the world, how big it was, how tight it was, and the forces that were out there that effectively altered their daily lives if it wasn't literally leaving my dad left and his brother left their willows, California, which is just a, you know, a farm community that could be anywhere in America. And they went to the South Pacific. How does a farm kid get from the South Pacific? So geographically it altered and from the moment the war began, really say 1939,”

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  22. “There was a paradox that I was aware of from a very early age is that there were two versions of the war. One was the movie war, the TV war that ongoing celebration of what the myth was with the right kind of music and the right kind of triumph and maps and stuff like that. But then there was the other one that was displayed by every single caregiver, every adult that was in my world, which was they talked about the war in very personal terms. Their lives, in fact, were divided up into three very specific acts. Before the war, he talked about life before the war, their lives were simple. Their lives were also dangerous because they could get, you died of pneumonia before World War II. You could have a tooth abscess that could kill you. There was a real difference between”

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  23. “You can get some good maps of what was there. But here, because I believe, and I have seen over and over again, is that vanity of vanity, all is vanity. Nothing new is under the sun. Human behavior has demonstrated itself in a cyclical manner in the form of history. And when you're not involved in the nostalgia of a period, but in the human behavior of a period, it all folds right into what you and I are going through today.”

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  24. “That was better than anything that you could possibly make up. I lived in a makeup fiction world, a make-believe world. And so I was not profoundly moved by an awful lot of novels unless they were set in some brand of concrete reality. And that's always been my interest in reading. I still read about World War II for pleasure and the space program. And there's a couple of really great books that came out that are in then there about the 1939 Worlds Fair.”

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  25. “When I started reading for pleasure, I don't know if it's proper to say this, but I had a very vivid imagination in all other respects of school pursuit. In theater, I was quote unquote an actor. That is a lot of making things up that have to be rooted somehow in a concrete reality. So I read nonfiction because it really happened. I read non-I mean, even if it was books like Leon Euris, who wrote like Armageddon or Mila 18 or Exodus Trinity, you know, or Arthur Haley, who wrote about hotels and airports and car manufacture, read a lot of biographies and autobiographies because”

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  26. “No, I was hoping someday I could move into a better crappy apartment. That's all you're going for. No, I will say the thing I had in my pocket that was an advantage was complete obliviousness to any other possibility other than, gee, I hope I can get this job doing high button shoes at the Zanesville Playhouse over the summertime because it's going to pay close to $280 a week. And I can make that. I can stretch that.”

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  27. “Age roles, I never could get an audition for one Maxwell House coffee commercial, but I didn't know what the process was. So they kept saying, slate it. I'm sorry. Slate it. What slate I don't understand slate what say your name I remember that coming. I didn't get that job. No, this was over.”

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  28. “Everybody who had a job that I didn't have, no, because I didn't view myself as being in competition with the likes of them because they had the jobs and they didn't even have to audition. It was literally an odds process. So the odds are better if you think you're better than 50%. That's confidence. The odds are still kind of in your favor if you think you're as good as the 40%. So timing ended up being everything. They need a guy my age with my voice and my hair and my eyes and my build. If they need that, I've got better than 40% off.”

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  29. “No. I can really do this. No, here's what I thought. And we actually talked about this, all of us young, you know, Turks that were out doing it at the same time. I said, look, We are as good as 50% of the people. No, excuse me, let's go back. This is what we said. We said we are better than 50% of the people in any audition. Just better. That's a level of cockiness that goes on. They're fine. We're better. I am just as good as 40% of the people. Just as good. I can't touch the remaining 10% because they're geniuses and they just do stuff they're on another astral plane. So the odds”

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  30. “No, luckily I had made just enough cash, money, in order to pay enough of the rent. And because I was a professional actor, I was on unemployment. So I had 25 weeks of salary and 25 weeks of minimum unemployment payments. And that was just enough to eke out a living.”

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  31. “Is what it was. But I viewed it as I think as you're figuring out this stuff, you have these, you were talking about, you know, when you were doing local elections, you can't imagine doing anything else. And the combat, the battle comes in the daily seeking of purchase. There were days you woke up, you had nothing to do. Nothing. There were no auditions. Maybe you could get together.”

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  32. “I was not married, but yeah, my son had been born for the three years by the time we got married he was two, and I had made the move. I had a card in my wallet that said, I was a professional actor. And the great friends I had, other members of the tribe said, you don't go back to Sacramento, California. You go to New York. Well, shouldn't I go to Minneapolis? No. Shouldn't I go to Kansas? No. Should I go to Chicago? No one's here from Chicago. You come to New York, and that's what I did. And I had a kid, and we got married when I was there, and it was horrifying and scary. But you make your peace with that kind of. New York was a very different place in 1977-78. You make your peace with that.”

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  33. “That we were hired in order to change the sets over. And those of us who were paid made about $48 a week, those of us who were not paid, thank you very much, did it for the professional experience because it was professional actors and we were in rotating rep. And we were giving small parts. You carried a spear or I played Reynaldo in Hamlet, which is a part that's always cut for good reasons. But in the course of that, there were some people who are given more responsibilities. And between the company saving money by paying an intern 50 bucks a week as opposed to paying an equity actor, you know, $250 a week. That was the difference between having the experience and not. And I did that.”

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  34. “I would say I found it. I found the tribe that I think every person needs to belong to, that every person needs to seek out. There were people at church that were great. There were people that were populated the individual classes. There were people that I got along with. But I felt as though I had a secret tattoo or the shared same DNA with the people that were in the drama department. And when I went off to college, I didn't realize that even there was playing, I thought there was some other test or rules. I didn't realize that the theater or dramatics was a discipline that you could pursue. I thought it was just something you instinctively did, you know, to hang out with funny people and have a gas. And after three years of doing that, I realized, oh, I can major in this. And I might be able to get a job.”

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  35. “Well, there was just the excitement of knowing that anybody had shown up specifically to watch what you are in. And that division between the Presceni and the audience was very powerful. Whether they liked you or not, I mean, if they liked it,”

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  36. “Well, I always do it purely on instinct, but the instinct was to throw myself into it totally. When I was in a play or when I was performing, it took up every moment of my day and every brain cell. I was always thinking about what I was going to do or between learning the lines and the excitement of just being there and getting ready to go on. It was just, I think there are people who are actors and there are people who are not, never will be. I just am one of those that was not self-conscious about it. It was really sort of like champing at the bit in order to be a part of something.”

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  37. “Was a man of the theater, and that's what we did. So discovering that was, well, this was just more fun than fun is. Beats the hell out of every other class I'm taking there. It was actually kind of a lot like a class in which the same skills were required of it then was to hang around at lunchtime and try to entertain the girls.”

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  38. “I was always a guy who shouted out wise cracks during the slideshow at school. But when I was in high school and Had that, well, what are you going to do? What do you take in high school? Biology, government, world history. I ran the track team for a while with absolutely no enthusiasm whatsoever. But then when a friend of mine was in the school play, and I just saw him do this, and I just said, what's this racket? You're telling me we could come and do this here? I thought it was only for Parks Department stuff, or maybe, you know, in the church group you might put on skits and stuff like that. And when I realized, when I found out, there was a classroom that had a stage in it. And you could take more than one class, and it wasn't babysitting. I've spoken about my teacher there, a guy named Raleigh Farnsworth, who”

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  39. “He was in the restaurant business. He was a chef, cook, ran the place a lot of times. Outside for two and a half years where we sort of lived alone, I was not necessarily anxious to get home because there was an unspoken tension in the house. There was always something that was not being said, like how long we're going to live there or how good and his wife are getting along. So I think the combat I had was a liveliness and a distraction that was built on hanging out with other people and staying busy and sort of like being in the entertainment business without realizing I was in the entertainment business.”

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  40. “That's what I said. I was at combat, I think, with the reality of the home environment. Other than this brief period of time when we lived, my dad was not married. It was just of the four of us, my dad, my older brother, my older sister.”

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  41. “Well, I think just because they were older and they had experienced more of it, but by the time I was 10, I thought it was kind of cool to have lived in as many different places that I lived in. And then it's funny, I lived in one house until I was 14, so 10 to 14. And that was the longest I had lived anywhere four years in one place. And then we started moving again every year.”

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  42. “Yeah, yeah, but I thought it was kind of cool. I lived in a, you know, I had a bunch of stepsiblings. We lived in apartments. We lived almost like on quasi-farms. We lived in the outskirts of towns. We lived in the middle of towns. Yeah, yeah. I went to one kindergarten of first grade, then a second grade, then a third, fourth, fifth. Yeah, but I wasn't intimidated. I guess a type A garrulous personality, as you say, I was able to size up what was going on pretty quick and some degree of a good sense of humor and some degree of confidence and a great amount of adopted independence, I think. If I was going to say there's a problem there, I traveled emotionally light. I didn't take a lot of the burdens of that confusion along with me”

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  43. “No, my parents, the joke is they pioneered the marriage dissolution laws for the state of California. It's my dad, Janet Amos, and Jaja Gabor all had a lot of divorces between them. But I can't, it's funny, I have three siblings. I'm the third kid of four, and we all have different takes on the environment that we grew up in. And mine was, is that other than it being confusing sometimes, and otherwise it being having parents who weren't anxious to tell us what was going on in the world, I kind of thought it was an adventure. I thought we moved, I had 10 different homes by the time I was 10 years old. And I thought that.”

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