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“Yeah, it was an incredible privilege to serve in the cabinet of this president, any president. And the honor that I had of being there for, even though it was a very short time of serving with those individuals at HHS, will always be a highlight of my life.”
2018-05-14 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 242 - Tom Price · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Either in the office or in the hospital. Never asked anybody what their coverage was. Ever. Physicians and individuals who provide care in this country are committed to their patients. Yes. And that's why it's so important to allow those individuals to do what they believe to be most appropriate. See, I would think that”
2018-05-14 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 242 - Tom Price · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“This is important. This is important. I spent over 20 years taking care of patients Never abandon a single patient. Saw every single patient that ever walked through my dorm surgery.”
2018-05-14 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 242 - Tom Price · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Instead of a soup to nuts health coverage plan, which many of the young immortals and millennials don't believe they need, therefore they don't think it's costworthy for them to do so. Therefore, they don't buy it. In fact, they'd rather pay a penalty to the federal government so that they don't have to buy coverage.”
2018-05-14 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 242 - Tom Price · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“If you believe that, then you, and I believe that what you said, then why wouldn't your solution be a high-deductible catastrophic plan for everybody?”
2018-05-14 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 242 - Tom Price · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Point, and you use the word basic, and that's important because then the question is who decides what basic is? And that's where I would suggest you that the right person decide what basic is for themselves is themselves and not the federal government. And that's where we end up in these challenges.”
2018-05-14 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 242 - Tom Price · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Is that what you're saying? What you're saying is everybody has to own a car and it has to be a black Buick. That's what they say everybody has to own.”
2018-05-14 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 242 - Tom Price · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Purchase, then you might get some significant support on this side of the aisle, on my side of the owl. Because instead of saying a person has to have health coverage and they're the ones that select it, you're saying you prescribe”
2018-05-14 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 242 - Tom Price · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“That's right. And so, in the bill that I worked on for almost a decade in the United States House of Representatives, the empowering patients first act that we addressed that was if you access the system and you didn't have health coverage, then you defaulted into whatever the next coverage policy was that was up in a system that was set up. Now, it never hadn't happened. And so the specifics of how that works aren't existent. But that's the way that I would address it. In fact, I talked to some friends on the other side of the aisle, on the Democratic side of the aisle, during the process of talking about the ACA and Obamacare when it was coming through, saying that, look, if y'all considered requiring individuals to have health coverage, but let them be the one that determines what that health coverage is and what's right for them, as opposed to saying you have to have health coverage and this is what you must”
2018-05-14 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 242 - Tom Price · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And if we're doing our job as a society and as a healthcare system, then all parents would say, yeah, that makes a whole lot of sense. And that's what I'm going to do.”
2018-05-14 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 242 - Tom Price · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“That's a consequence of that decision. Now, the alternative is to say, no, the state controls that child and will, over the parents' wishes and desires and commitment. Not allow that to happen, and then are we going to jail the parent? Is that what we're going to do? So those are pivotal questions, but they are at the margins.”
2018-05-14 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 242 - Tom Price · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Receive a vaccine or doesn't submit themselves to a vaccine that society believes is appropriate, then what are you going to do? And that's an important question. What are you going to do? So it gets to that question that I mentioned earlier. Who decides? I believe that through education and through the healthcare system, that the vast majority of individuals, if not all individuals, will say that, yes, certain vaccines are appropriate and they're necessary. But what are we going to do as a society when a parent says, no, I'm not going to, I don't want my child to have that. Well, there have to be consequences for that decision. One, are we going to allow them to make that decision? And I think that probably society believes it's appropriate to allow them to make that decision. Two, what happens if they say, in the very, very slim instances when they do, no, I don't want my child to have that, then the consequence of that is that that child can't attend public education.”
2018-05-14 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 242 - Tom Price · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So the question comes when you take it to the extreme, and that's what folks in the political arena like to do. They like to take to the extreme. That's what the media likes to do. They like to take it to the extreme. And so they say, well, are you going to require everybody? And so the next question there is if somebody doesn't...”
2018-05-14 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 242 - Tom Price · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, this is a peculiar one, frankly, because I think that it's important, vaccinations are incredibly important, obviously. Vaccinations have, in many, many ways. Decreased the human suffering and remarkable instances. I was had vaccinations myself for polio and for smallpox. And I've continued to take vaccinations for diseases that where we're discovering new ways to. It's not just important for you”
2018-05-14 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 242 - Tom Price · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Was incredibly inspiring in the commitment that they have to the work that they do was just remarkably fulfilling. I started something called a weekly blurb called IMHS to identify individuals within the department who proudly stood up and told their story, kind of the short version of what you walked through with me early in this conversation about how they ended up at HHS. What was their dream? What was their goal? So many of the stories are incredibly inspiring by these people literally have committed their lives to help you and me and every single person, not just in this nation, but around the world, be able to have high quality.”
2018-05-14 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 242 - Tom Price · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And thank the folks for the work that they're doing because so many of them are doing incredible work that is assisting in increasing not just the quality of care that's being able to be provided in this nation, but the quality of life that exists in this country. And they aspire to improve that. So, for example, the folks that were on the front lines of the Ebola crisis. Across the ocean and far away for many folks, but literally a plane flight away from the United States. The folks that were on the front lines of that and assisted in making certain that that was a terrible event, there's no doubt about it, but that we solved that crisis. Those are American citizens many of them and employees of the CDC and the NIH”
2018-05-14 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 242 - Tom Price · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“We were simply trying to find solutions. That's what we were trying to do from my office's standpoint. But I'll tell you what I was so incredibly honored and thrilled about. And that was to be able for, albeit a short time, but to be able to be at the helm of an organization with 80,000 employees, 80,000 individuals committed to the work that they're doing all across the world. HHS, people know that it's a department in government, but what they don't, many of them don't know, is that it has 27 agencies and divisions beneath it, including the iconic institutions of healthcare that we have in this nation. So whether it's NIH or the CDC or CMS or SAMHSA or the FDA, all of those are within and under HHS. So one of the things that I got the opportunity to do was to visit every one of those. Agencies and divis”
2018-05-14 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 242 - Tom Price · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I think it depends on who you're talking about. If you're talking about the individuals who didn't have access to care at that time and gained access on the exchanges, then no. It wasn't working better in 2008. If you're talking about the folks in the individual and small group market who aren't eligible for the exchange because of their income or whatever, and then they've been subjected to a system that has significantly increased their premiums and deductibles so that they are now unable to provide the care that their family needs because of those price increases, then it's working worse for them. And that's why I think that we need to talk about an array of solutions that is respectful of individuals, that puts patients in the driver's seat as opposed to insurance companies or government.”
2018-05-14 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 242 - Tom Price · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“No, absolutely. Don't misunderstand me. I'm not saying that the system that we have right now is the system that is working ideally for folks. It's why I've spent the last 20 plus years trying to make certain that we were moving in a better direction for folks. Again, that was adherent to those principles that I talked about.”
2018-05-14 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 242 - Tom Price · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“The sign up time period, we were trying to harmonize with Medicare. So the time period that we defined for the ACA when I was there for that short period of time was the same time period for sign up for Medicare. It works extremely well for Medicare and we wanted to harmonize the two for ease of administration But again, the premise to your question is that the ACA is the be-all and the end-all, and that's the direction that we ought to be heading, when in fact the number of plans on the exchanges is decreasing. The number of individuals who have a choice of the type of plan that they want are decreasing. The premiums continue to escalate, and the deductibles for many individuals are through the roof, and therefore, again, they have coverage, but they don't have.”
2018-05-14 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 242 - Tom Price · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“That's an illogical conclusion. If the amount of money that was spent last year got virtually the same number of individuals insured on the exchanges as did this year, but was spent 10% of what was spent last year, then a conclusion could be reached that would say there was too much money being spent last year.”
2018-05-14 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 242 - Tom Price · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“But that statement that you just made presumes that the decision makers can only be government or insurance. And I would take issue with that. The fact of the matter is you can have a system that is positive, productive, has everybody covered, does so in a way that's affordable and accessible and continues to have quality health care and choices for patients that has patience in charge of the system. And that's incredibly important because then the system moves.”
2018-05-14 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 242 - Tom Price · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“No, absolutely not. But there are solutions that have a respect and would adhere to those principles that I mentioned and discussed that are much more positive and much more productive and have at the core of who decides. The real question is who decides. And we can have a system where the government decides. There's no doubt about it.”
2018-05-14 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 242 - Tom Price · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Nobody wants anybody to, individuals who know healthcare and know what needs to be done, nobody wants individuals not to have coverage. We want everybody to have coverage. Having everybody have coverage is imperative at this point There are ways to do it, I believe, that would allow those principles to be uphill, that is, be affordable, accessible, have the highest quality and choices for patients.”
2018-05-14 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 242 - Tom Price · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, absolutely. But it can be done in a way that respects the principles that I talked about. So for that individual that may be working, and I would suggest that from a voluntary standpoint that if he wants to remain on that program, that he ought to be able to do so. But we as a society are failing 28 million individuals right now who don't have coverage, and we're failing many of those who have coverage in a system that they can't afford to get the treatment or a system that doesn't allow them to see the doctor or access the kind of healthcare that they want. So I think it's important, again, for us to step back for individuals who are now in the policymaking arena to step back and say, what is it that we could do that would actually allow our society to have a healthcare system that respects those principles?”
2018-05-14 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 242 - Tom Price · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Many of us talked about it. Absolutely. And so I felt that it was an affront to where those decisions ought to be made. And clearly the people who voted in those whatever was, I think 83 districts that elected new Republicans in that year felt the same way. And the majority was taken back.”
2018-05-14 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 242 - Tom Price · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It was precisely what I was referring to because if you know how healthcare works and you know how the system works and you know the challenges that exist and when you push on something where it pokes out somewhere else, this was all very predictable and I talked about”
2018-05-14 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 242 - Tom Price · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It's probably a little less than that because there were some people who transferred over to the exchange market and to Medicaid who were covered in other ways. But plus or minus, you're right. It's still left, however, 28 million individuals uninsured. And what it did was increase deductibles and increased premiums for so many individuals in that individual and small group market, that exchange market, that when I went home and talked to my former colleagues, they would share with me stories of patients and their families and their parents' children and their parents crying in the waiting room because they weren't able to get the kind of care that they needed because they couldn't afford the deductible. So they had coverage, but many of them didn't have care.”
2018-05-14 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 242 - Tom Price · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I don't remember that quote, but I suspect I was referring primarily to the ACA to Obamacare. I really felt, and I wrote at the time and I spoke at the time, and I did, it wasn't a podcast, but it was whatever social media communication we could about the harm that I felt that that bill was going to do to American healthcare. And it wasn't the accessibility challenge, which was some of which was addressed by the ACA.”
2018-05-14 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 242 - Tom Price · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“My colleagues at that time said, Well, Tom, we think that this is probably the best place for you to serve at this point. And it was incredibly gratifying to be able to help try to fashion policy and fashion a course that was hopefully helping to solve many of the challenges that we have.”
2018-05-14 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 242 - Tom Price · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I think that when one engages in public service, that it's important to try to find where one can serve best. And sometimes you know that in your heart and you're able to chart that course. And sometimes that's a course that others will determine where you can best serve. And so that's what I always ask folks when I got to Congress. I asked the then speaker and then the then majority leader and the majority whip at that time. Where can I best serve? Where can I best be able to help solve many of the challenges that we have? And so at each step in the process that I went through, whether it was to be chairman of the Republican Study Committee, whether it was to be chair of the Republican Policy Committee, or whether it was to be chair of the House Budget Committee, each of those were places that”
2018-05-14 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 242 - Tom Price · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Seven way primary, as you mentioned, of Johnny Isaacson's district, a very Republican district at that time. It's changed a bit because of redistricting. But we ran a very competitive race, and we're very, very honored and privileged. It was a very exciting time to be able to win a seat for the United States House of Representatives.”
2018-05-14 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 242 - Tom Price · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“When When I became a majority leader, an inordinate amount of time. And I was incredibly proud of the work that we had done. But I was 50 years old, about to be 50 years old, and it was time to make a decision from my standpoint, but also from my partner's standpoint, who called me in one day in my medical practice and said, okay, Price, do you want to be a politician or a doctor because you're not pulling your weight around here? Doctors aren't like lawyers who send their colleagues to the legislature and hope that they pass some grand legislation that allows them to benefit the firm. Physicians want their colleagues there in the practice contributing. And so the good Lord answers all prayers, and he did mine, and that was to open up the opportunity for the race, for Congress in 2004. And it was a very hotly contested primary.”
2018-05-14 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 242 - Tom Price · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Sure. And that's why you've got to work together to solve it. Because as offensive as it is to some individuals, for other individuals, it is incredibly important. And that's why we need to have a conversation. That's why this demonization of folks on either side of a particular issue and the inability, the seeming inability to have an adult conversation about how to solve the challenges that we face is really sad. And I see it increasing as opposed to decreasing. And so the difficulty in reaching the kinds of solutions that are so important to do because what citizens expect us to do is to solve problems as members of the elected public service folks.”
2018-05-14 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 242 - Tom Price · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I'm really proud of what we did in solving that. When I was the majority leader, I worked with Cassim Reit, who became mayor of Atlanta. He was in the State Senate at that time and others to bring about a solution to the real challenge that existed with the state flag. And I think Georgia handled it with remarkable respect for all sides. And you haven't heard the kind of rancor since we brought that solution about in the early part of the last decade.”
2018-05-14 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 242 - Tom Price · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Is able to bring priority to those kinds of things that are so very, very important to the citizens in our constituents. So it was a great experience. I enjoyed immensely the experience in the state Senate. The people that I worked with on both sides of the aisle and the kind of success that we had.”
2018-05-14 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 242 - Tom Price · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“We're very content to be in the minority. As I say, they'd never been in the majority, and so they had this minority mindset. It didn't make a whole lot of sense to me to sidetrack one's life and spend time in the political arena. Remember, I was still practicing medicine. If you weren't there for a reason, for a cause, and the cause was to try to bring about more conservative solutions to the kinds of challenges that the state of Georgia had. And so I paired with a couple other folks who felt the same way, and were not content to be in the minority and did what I thought was going to take just two years as a type A surgeon trying to figure out how to take the majority in the state senate. It turned out to be a six-year project, but we worked together to try to crack that nut so that the majority party sets the agenda.”
2018-05-14 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 242 - Tom Price · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I don't think so, especially at the state level. At the state level, Georgia's legislature is a 40, it's a citizen legislature, it's 40-day period of time, 40 legislative days. And so in order to get anything done, you've got to work with folks, and that's important. And we were very successful in many of the things that we did. One of the things that frustrated me at the time when I entered the state senate was that many folks on the Republican side of the island,”
2018-05-14 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 242 - Tom Price · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It's a potential way to get folks covered. I would suggest to you that it would destroy the affordability and the accessibility and the quality and the responsiveness in the innovation and choices. So if you think that those principles ought to be our goals in terms of healthcare, then that's not where you'd go. And that's why I think it's important to talk about those principles because you have to There has to be a metric. We have to compare what systems we're going to have as a society to some ideal. And those ideals are really important.”
2018-05-14 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 242 - Tom Price · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“You may or may not, CBO has, I believe, has a flawed model, and I've talked about this at the Budget Committee, and I've talked about it previously. But nobody wants anybody to fall through the cracks. Everybody needs to have some sort of coverage. I believe strongly and have always believed that and stated that. The problem is that we now have a system that's not working for folks. So they're not able to get the kind of care oftentimes that they desire for themselves. We don't have a healthcare system. We've got systems. We've got Medicare and Medicaid and the individual market and the exchange market and the individual and small group market and the employer-sponsored market and the VA and the Indian health service. And we seem to expect that patients ought to be able to move seamlessly between those siloed systems. And then wonder why it would be.”
2018-05-14 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 242 - Tom Price · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Model can't be sustained. Shouldn't we as a society address that? It's easier to address now than it will be when the crisis comes because a crisis is coming. And then the question becomes how do you address that? And that's what we try to do both at the ways and means committee and at the budget committee and then in my work, my short work at HHS.”
2018-05-14 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 242 - Tom Price · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Medicaid has been an incredible lifeline for individuals and is a system that needs to be improved and allowed for the principles to hold true. So choices and a greater amount of accessibility and quality in that system. So where we find ourselves right now is in a very challenging situation from those programs because they're not financially sustainable. So for us as a society to hide the fact in our public discussions that Medicare is going broke, which means that it can't provide the services that have been promised to seniors, that's one of the areas I believe that's been harmed by this politicization of health care because we ought to be able to have an honest conversation to say, look, Medicare in its current financial”
2018-05-14 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 242 - Tom Price · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I don't oppose them. Obviously, Medicare has been an incredible program that has provided for significant access for seniors to care and for affordability of care. I would suggest in some instances it has been a challenge from a quality standpoint, and we're seeing more and more of that.”
2018-05-14 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 242 - Tom Price · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“More collegial and more productive and more positive in the way that it's carried out. And so from my perspective as a formerly practicing physician and as an individual who believes in those principles strongly, if you march down through the things that we want, it will take you in an honest intellectual pursuit. It will take you to alternatives, options for how to get to accomplish those principles and those goals. And that's where I believe that less government in healthcare is better than more government in healthcare. More decisions made by patients and docs are better than fewer decisions made by patients and docs, et cetera.”
2018-05-14 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 242 - Tom Price · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“That's right. I had three to the access affordability and quality, responsiveness. The system needs to be responsive to you as the patient. Innovation, we need to incentivize innovation because I believe it's only through that innovation that we can sustain the quality. And then choices. Patients need choices. Patients need to be the ones that decide who's taking care of them, when they're being cared for, how, where and the like. So accessibility, affordability, quality, responsiveness, innovation, and choices. And most folks agree that or a subset of that or some other principle that is consistent with those goals are where we need to be. I think it's important to talk about that because once we appreciate that we all want a similar end point, then the discussion about how you get there can become, I believe, Ken. It hasn't gotten there yet, but can become.”
2018-05-14 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 242 - Tom Price · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, this is really important because I think it's really a shame that healthcare has become so politicized and that the issues seem to be everybody heads to their corners and comes out swinging I like to talk about the principles of health care because when you talk about the principles of healthcare virtually every one of us agrees on a constellation of principles So we all believe virtually that we ought to have a system that everybody has access to. We all believe that we ought to have a system that's affordable for everybody. We all believe that the system, healthcare system ought to provide the highest quality of care. Those are kind of the three big ones that folks, regardless of your ideological stripe, talk about.”
2018-05-14 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 242 - Tom Price · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Senate in 1996 in an open seat, one that I wasn't supposed to win, but we just outworked everybody and won that one. Elected to the state senate in 1996 served eight years in the Georgia state Senate. Six of them in the minority, two in the majority when I got down there after the 96 election Republicans had never held the majority in the state of Georgia in the state Senate. And so I've worked with others to try to make that happen. That was an exciting time.”
2018-05-14 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 242 - Tom Price · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And so I had two of the most delightful conversations with two wonderful individuals who knew nothing about what I was talking about and didn't have a clue what it took to practice medicine or to take care of patients. And it wasn't because they were bad folks. It's because they just, that wasn't in their wheelhouse. It wasn't in their life experience. They really didn't know the kinds of things that needed to be done. And I remember driving home from that experience thinking, well, this doesn't make a whole lot of sense. You got a lot of non-medical people making essentially medical decisions about what I could do for and with my patients. And so my wife had a similar experience about the same time. And so we began to get engaged in local politics. And over a few years, some of our best friends became politicians and not necessarily our medical colleagues. I was asked to run for the state.”
2018-05-14 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 242 - Tom Price · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, actually, my entree to politics where it really piqued my interest was in the mid to late 80s when I was in solo practice. And I had joined the state medical society and was involved in organized medicine. And I remember getting a call from the state medical society to don my white coat and come down to the state capitol because we had a tort crisis in the state of lawsuit abuse crisis in Georgia in the mid to late 80s. They said, you've got to go down and lobby your representative and your senator. And I never set foot in the state capitol until that time. And so I did dutifully respond to the call and went down to the state capitol and had, and I don't know how it is in many other states, but in Georgia at that time, and you still can, you just stand outside the chamber and you pass a note to one of the aides and they go in and find your state representative or your state senator and they come out in the hallway and talk with you. I thought it was pretty neat.”
2018-05-14 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 242 - Tom Price · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And then grew it into what became resurgence orthopedics, which, as you mentioned, was one of the largest non-academic group practices of orthopedic surgeons in the country.”
2018-05-14 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 242 - Tom Price · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source