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  1. We need some help. Own presents an all-new series. Each couple here has something in common. Cheating. All of you will be going out on dates with a person you cheated with. Where's my man? We'll find out if you and your partner can work through your obstacles. You just disrespected me. I'm done. And confidently decide to put a ring on it. Three cheating couples. One last chance to commit. Put a ringed on a cheat have. New series premieres Friday, July 31st, 9-8 Central.

    2019-08-14 · Oprah's Super Soul · “The Oprah Winfrey Show”: Toni Morrison · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  2. For those of you who haven't had a chance to read it, give yourself that gift of the bluest eye. Do that for yourself. Do that for yourself and for your children. As you were saying, if nothing else comes out of the book, if you learn nothing else from the book, you will learn to treat your own children differently. Thank you, Tony Morrison, for the bluest eye and for showing us the world through Piccola's eyes. I'm Oprah Winfrey, and you've been listening to Super Soul Conversations, the podcast. You can follow Super Soul on Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook. If you haven't yet, go to Apple Podcasts and subscribe, rate, and review this podcast. Join me next week for another Super Soul Conversation. Thank you for listening.

    2019-08-14 · Oprah's Super Soul · “The Oprah Winfrey Show”: Toni Morrison · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  3. I read that book and I thought you didn't have to write another one. You didn't have to write another one. You've written so many other great ones, including getting the Nobel Prize.

    2019-08-14 · Oprah's Super Soul · “The Oprah Winfrey Show”: Toni Morrison · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  4. Us have seen. And that's why it's so exciting to go into a bookstore Borders, which is right across the street for me, and to see Picola displayed. And redeemed will change the world

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  5. And that's what's so powerful about the bluest eye. It's why I feel like I would have done my job. I can retire. I get the whole country to read the book because I think it is a way of saying to the world, this is what we're talking about. When people say racist, I'm not racist. That doesn't exist. Or what are you talking about? I mean, Oprah, look at your life to be able to see through the eyes of Cola, that that is the world that so many...

    2019-08-14 · Oprah's Super Soul · “The Oprah Winfrey Show”: Toni Morrison · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  6. What happens when she goes to the store? Is that the first time she realizes for herself? That even for him to touch her skin. That was a sense memory thing for me because it was one of those people in my neighborhood. Yeah, where you go to the store and I remember never wanting to touch my hand. I always drop the money

    2019-08-14 · Oprah's Super Soul · “The Oprah Winfrey Show”: Toni Morrison · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  7. When I first read the bluest eye, the thing that struck me the most is that anybody who allows themselves to be defined outside of their own personal vision. That is a form of insanity. And look at what the world has done to women. We'll suck it out, pull it up, shape it up, you know. You see young girls now, 13, 14 years old, having plastic surgery already to fit the image.

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  8. What you did was a gracious thing you just did instead of you're pretty cute Tony Morrison, what did you want us to know or see? From the bluest eye.

    2019-08-14 · Oprah's Super Soul · “The Oprah Winfrey Show”: Toni Morrison · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  9. Outside of ourselves, yeah. So the idea of telling a child what is really the truth about him or herself, you are good, you are kind, you are generous.

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  10. It's the hierarchy that Tony Morrison was talking about that she talks about in her class. The closer you are to white, the better you are. And that is what has been adopted in the race.

    2019-08-14 · Oprah's Super Soul · “The Oprah Winfrey Show”: Toni Morrison · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  11. As a white person growing up Were you aware of this? Was this quiet? You were not? No, not at all. This is as quiet as it's kept. Absolutely. You were not aware of the inner country.

    2019-08-14 · Oprah's Super Soul · “The Oprah Winfrey Show”: Toni Morrison · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  12. And you're crying, and the hairdresser is a ragged book about more than me. From her point of view, don't you think? But I love this line. I love this line where the girls say all the time, this is after Maureen Peel has said you're ugly, you're ugly, I'm kidding you not. I'm cute, and I'm cute. And all the time we knew that Maureen Peel was not the enemy and not worthy of such intense hatred. The thing to fear was the thing that made her beautiful.

    2019-08-14 · Oprah's Super Soul · “The Oprah Winfrey Show”: Toni Morrison · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  13. I guess she did. Hearing you read it, I forgot about the brown velvet coat. And the sweater, the color of lemon drops, right?

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  14. Let's talk about Marine Peel. I think the best way to talk about her is for you to read Description of her from the book.

    2019-08-14 · Oprah's Super Soul · “The Oprah Winfrey Show”: Toni Morrison · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  15. And that is why so many women carry the guilt of it and the shame of it because what did I have to do with it? Because sex felt good. Because it felt good.

    2019-08-14 · Oprah's Super Soul · “The Oprah Winfrey Show”: Toni Morrison · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  16. And never felt any love. And when it happens to you, as I say to my friends with daughters and young sons, don't think it's going to be the horrible rape falling unconscious that you see with Charlie and Cicola the first time, a lot of times it's so subtle. For me, it started with a 19-year-old cousin playing Footsies, you know. And so you're thinking he likes you. He likes you. He likes me. He likes me. For me, and then me following my uncles around every time they came to visit me, he likes me. He likes me. You want that. And you want that. That does not mean you are asking to be raped, but you want the closeness, just as Picola felt at least I was teaching. That is what is never spoken about. That's right.

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  17. Of the daughter the second time. Because when many times people say to you, I've said this before, I know you say people don't talk about it. I say, oh, she must have missed that show. But I've talked about it. This is what is so difficult. This is what is the confusion and horror of it. Is because if you are a child as I was where you don't feel loved,

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  18. Other level of You know what? Why is this kid? What's so interesting to me? And I think it might have been the first time I read the blue star. I don't know. That I made the connection, having been a victim of sexual abuse as a child, that I understood the complicity and vulnerability.

    2019-08-14 · Oprah's Super Soul · “The Oprah Winfrey Show”: Toni Morrison · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  19. We always come away from a conversation with Tony feeling a little smarter and more enlightened than we did before we sat down. I think you will too. In this next part, we talk about the secret that many incest survivors keep inside. Here now is part two of our discussion with Tony Morrison.

    2019-08-14 · Oprah's Super Soul · “The Oprah Winfrey Show”: Toni Morrison · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  20. And she works hard at it. I love that. I think that, you know, we do lots of shows on child raising and how to handle your children. That's one of the most profound things I've ever heard for all you moms who are worrying about dirty years or is your hair combed, the most important thing is, which we all felt when we heard her say it, is do your eyes light up when your child walks into the room. Wasn't that big? That's profound We're talking about the bluest eye by Tony Morrison. I really do think it's a national treasure. Everybody should read it. Don't you think the world would be different

    2019-08-14 · Oprah's Super Soul · “The Oprah Winfrey Show”: Toni Morrison · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  21. And there's not a time when I have come to your words, when I have not been enhanced by the language. I mean, we were talking about you're truly gifted. Do you not think so? Yes, I do. No, I think you. Okay, so.

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  22. You've messed up my white folks' kitchen. You messed up my white kitchen. You messed up my kitchen. You messed up my pie. But you didn't feel that was an

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  23. She was Pauline. There would be This sort of glow inside her about these white children. And that was when I read what you said. I thought, that's the message. That's when I first got it, that you are better if you are white. You can be loved more if you're white. If I were only white, she would love me more.

    2019-08-14 · Oprah's Super Soul · “The Oprah Winfrey Show”: Toni Morrison · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  24. Not by what the person is saying to you, but what you feel. When I was growing up, my grandmother, because she had to work for a white family in Mississippi, and there's a photograph that I still have on my desk, or the only photograph I have of my grandmother is with her holding this white child. And when she would come home, you know and whip me, chastise me, talk to me, you know, in not the most loving term, but every time she would ever talk about those white children.

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  25. Tony says a beautiful thing about the messages that we get about who we are when a child first walks in the room. Can you talk about that?

    2019-08-14 · Oprah's Super Soul · “The Oprah Winfrey Show”: Toni Morrison · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  26. Business of intra-racism, the business of self-hatred and self-loathing. That we have with it that a lot of people who are watching us right now in a lot of states. Don't even know exist because we all are just still black folks to them and they don't know. Like, you all are fighting still amongst yourselves based upon

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  27. As we just saw that piece where you're talking about why you wrote the book, and we see all the images and the cartoons, I mean, the first time I saw that piece watching for my dressing room, I was very emotional about it and asking myself, is it some residue pain that I have or is it for all those girls, for the girl I once was, for all those girls?

    2019-08-14 · Oprah's Super Soul · “The Oprah Winfrey Show”: Toni Morrison · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  28. You know, I have this to say about the bluest eye. I remember when I announced it on the show, I was saying if you don't appreciate love this book, then I'm really, I have nothing to say to you. And I just, and I really do mean that. But I have to say I was in an airport not too long ago, and I saw an entire row of bluest eyes, like in a major airport. And I'm telling you, my eyes started to water because I thought Picola. Has her day. How do you feel about it? I mean, I know this is a first. Does it feel like your baby has finally come into being?

    2019-08-14 · Oprah's Super Soul · “The Oprah Winfrey Show”: Toni Morrison · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  29. The thousands of you who wrote and emailed us, thank you so much. Your comments helped to shape our show today, even those that didn't get on. Even if you weren't chosen for the discussion. Before we begin, though, meet the four women who sat down with us. Stephanie is a 34-year-old lawyer in Beaumont, Texas. Diana is a guidance counselor who grew up in Lorraine, Ohio. The setting of the bluest eye, and also Tony Morrison's hometown. Ruth is a mother of eight children, including three African-American girls that she adopted, and Julie is a single woman who works for a hotel chain in San Francisco. And as you'll see for yourself, our book conversations are never about just the book. That's what a good book does, is open doors to other areas. And nobody opens more doors than Ms. Tony Morrison. So put down whatever you're doing and listen. You need to listen to this because this has some of the most important insights. I've heard about raising children.

    2019-08-14 · Oprah's Super Soul · “The Oprah Winfrey Show”: Toni Morrison · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  30. I try not to ask this a lot, but if you could just put aside the bills or tonight to dinner for the next 20 minutes or so, what you're going to hear is both powerful and wonderful, especially if you are a mother of any kind of child.

    2019-08-14 · Oprah's Super Soul · “The Oprah Winfrey Show”: Toni Morrison · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  31. Thousands of you wrote in about how the bluest eye affected you. Many letters were from women who wrote in graphic detail about how they hated who they were, all because of the way they looked. Here are some of the things you've said, along with more thoughts on beauty from Tony Morrison. Each night without fail, she prayed for blue eyes, fervently for a year she had prayed. Although somewhat discouraged, she was not without hope. To have someone else.

    2019-08-14 · Oprah's Super Soul · “The Oprah Winfrey Show”: Toni Morrison · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  32. The other is their history. And what is the way they look? Cartoonizing people in images Eventually It's so consistent and so persistent you begin to feel. Inferior, lesser. less powerful less attractive less everything Because there's very little around you that supports it. You cannot drink from those fountains. It in this part of the restaurant or even enter, etc. Everything reinforces it. And it's difficult for parents of black children to try to tell them they're wrong and you're right. So eventually the self-contempt becomes a part of your makeup, part of whom you are. And that has happened Many groups with African Americans as well. The bluest I wanted to show the real devastation of this concept of self-image.

    2019-08-14 · Oprah's Super Soul · “The Oprah Winfrey Show”: Toni Morrison · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  33. And you have to attack the things that they have, that they might take some pleasure in. One is their language can't speak.

    2019-08-14 · Oprah's Super Soul · “The Oprah Winfrey Show”: Toni Morrison · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  34. See the dog. Bow wow goes. The primary book, the first reader in the first grade was an example of the devastation that comes when everybody is judged by one story where you have the family, classic mother, father, dog child. That impossible ide Everyone. A measure against this particular family That is at the center of the book. Picola wants blue eyes. Because in her world, they're superior. They represent beauty. It would make any difference if she were the most beautiful child around. Her skin is black. No one's going to look at her. It was important for me to say at that time, when I was writing this book in 1965, Through to the end in 1969, that racism. That kind of abuse Children hurts deeply. And it is devastating. If you're going to enslave people, You have to be persuaded yourself that they are inferior

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  35. Pacola and all the Pocolas of the world have finally gotten our day. The message in the bluest eye is so universal that I really believe we all could learn from it. And no matter where you live or who you are, we're going to begin now with an explanation of one of my favorite books of all time, The Bluest Eye from the author herself. Listen, as Tony Morrison tells how even the youngest and most innocent could grow up and learn to hate who she is.

    2019-08-14 · Oprah's Super Soul · “The Oprah Winfrey Show”: Toni Morrison · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  36. Well, I love all the books we've done in the book club. Obviously, I have to read them and then choose them. Some people love a lot of them. Some people don't. But the bluest eye this month's election is so special to me. It is one of my all-time favorites, and I'll tell you why. At the heart of the bluest eye is 12-year-old Picola Breedlove, who thought that she was so ugly nobody would possibly love her. And regardless of what color you are, there are a lot of women who have defined themselves by what other people think of them. Over the course of the last month, we've been flooded with letters and emails from all races and cultures, sometimes over 200 responses a day, all because of this one little girl. I'm so, so pleased that all of you, all races and cultures related to her. This one little girl who was dismissed as unlovable has touched your hearts and mind. So for me, the beauty of this book is that Picola

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  37. You're going to hear is both powerful and wonderful. An unforgettable book. Each night, without fail, she prayed for blue eyes. An unforgettable show. I remember spending Hoping that it would turn white. An unforgettable author. Picola wants blue eyes because in her world they represent beauty and unforgettable insights. When a kid walks in the room, does your face light up? Let your face speak what's in your heart. Our most profound book club show ever.

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  38. Encore presentation of our interview about her very first book The Bluest Eye It was after this show that I heard from women around the world who told me how colorism just like that depicted in the bluest eye impacted them people of color in many different cultures. It was during the show when Tony gave one of the greatest lessons that I've loved to share. She talked about children and how what children are really looking for is do your eyes light up? Does your face light up when they enter the room? It's really that simple and the ultimate way to validate them as human beings. I carry that lesson inside my spirit along with Tony's remarkable, gorgeous epic works. Here's a look back. At my interview with Tony Morrison and the bluest eye, the world will miss her, I will miss her, but thankfully We are left with her words.

    2019-08-14 · Oprah's Super Soul · “The Oprah Winfrey Show”: Toni Morrison · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  39. I'm Oprah Winfrey. Welcome to Super Soul Conversations, the podcast. I believe that one of the most valuable gifts you can give yourself is time, taking time to be more fully present. Your journey to become more inspired and connected to the deeper world around us starts right now. Hello everyone. Earlier this week we lost another legend, author Tony Morrison. She passed away at eighty eight years old. She was the first African American woman to win the Nobel Prize for Literature. She influenced countless writers and readers around the world. She was a master of words and had a profound impact on me. I was proud to choose four of her novels for my book club and interviewed her on the Oprah Show many times.

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