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  1. I would like to try and develop my own little vineyard. And therefore I'd like to establish fines one Sauvignon and the other a Grenache wine. Plus please a bigish tin bath. Perhaps within a year I might harvest a few grapes to tread in the bath and give me a conch shell of wine.

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  2. Well, I would like the three volumes of Somerset Morm's short stories. He is a magnificent storyteller, and I would never tire of them.

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  3. This is a very favourite melody. It's the most beautiful melody, and if I remember rightly, it was kind of discovered not too long ago, and it seemed to come along just about the time I met with Mary. So I associate this tune very much with her.

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  4. Yes, the Royal Air Force is a great family, and the people I met and served with and still know are very great people indeed.

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  5. And fortunately she seems to think that she'd like to spend some time with me, and so two or three years after Margie's death her husband had been dead then for many years, sadly. We just enjoy each other's company so much, and I've been incredibly lucky in finding her, and the fact that she wants to share things with me.

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  6. Many years ago I was a flying instructor in Rhodesia, and then the same flight was a certain individual. We became very, very good friends indeed, and just after the war he came down to Bournemouth where I was based and brought along his stepdaughter, who was fourteen. So that's when I first met her. But I kept in touch with him, and I got to know her mother, and Mary I met her husband, and I used to get the odd card from her. So when Marjorie died, I'd been invited to by many people in England when I'd living in France to go, and I thought well, you know, I'd better do it instead of putting them off. So I telephoned Mary instead of very much like to meet again, which we did in Bath. And I was well, I think I've got to say when I saw her there. I just fell in love with it.

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  7. Yes I don't know whether I looked deliberately at the future and thought about it, but that would seem to have been the possible pattern.

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  8. After the war I found serious music, shall we say, when I had my first job it was based in London, and I went to many promenade concerts, and Tchaikovsky became one of my favourite composers. I just loved his music.

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  9. No, it doesn't seem that, but it did teach me that the problems one met in civilian life could be solved, and they weren't quite as major as taking off from a filthy night from the north of Scotland knowing you were going to be in the air for 12 and a half hours

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  10. Well, it happened because I was an honor member of an RAF mess in Yorkshire, and so was a wonderful man called Barney Colahan, who produced on radio the Wilford Pickles shows, and he went into television and he was putting together a program called Top Town on Television where towns would be asked to produce an entertainment package and compete against each other, and he wanted a panel of judges, and I was a sort of not quite the man in the street, but people at Ted Kavanaugh who wrote the script for Itmar and a wonderful

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  11. We're down at 6. The next record I'd like to hear is the Brook Violin Concerto, and the reason for that is it was my second wife's very, very favourite piece of music. So although she died in France, I organized a memorial service in the Actors Church in Covent Garden so that her friends and colleagues could say goodbye to her. And we had a solo violinist who played this piece.

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  12. Yes, I am very confident lots and lots of people have worked hard and we've had lots of support and contributions and what we need really now on top of it is to provide the funds for its care and maintenance in the future.

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  13. We weren't bombing civilians, we were bombing German industry. Bear in mind the Germans killed forty three thousand of our civilians between september forty and may forty one and would have gone on doing so had we not taken the war in the air over the rooftops of German cities.

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  14. All I can say is most of them, or all of them are post war. They had no idea what situation we were in in nineteen forty. If we The Luftwaffe had defeated Faracamand, and if the Germans had been able to land here, well, we would have been occupied and subjugated. It was total war. We were fighting for our existence, and the only way We could touch Germany was through Bomber Command.

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  15. We were very, very, very disappointed. Churchill asked for master of the air We'd given it to him by nineteen forty five and when we had a reunion after the war the only one we ever had at the Albert Hall at that time I think we were all very very furious about the view about bomber command because in his victory speech Churchill mentioned almost everybody but not Bomber Command as a contributor to the victory.

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  16. approaching the fiord, I saw over the nose of the Lancaster, but only as a sort of black shape. My bomb ever said it looked like a dinky toy from fifteen thousand feet, the huge vessel though it was.

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  17. Well In today's terms it may seem a bit difficult, but I would Lots and lots of other people were doing it that it wasn't so unusual. People were sent away in those days for three and four years. Soldiers fighting in the desert and in Italy and people at sea it was a very rare different period indeed.

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  18. The next record I'd like is the Dambuster's March, and as a member of that squadron, although I joined them a year after the dams, I met some of the great survivors. On the way into Bomber Command on my course, we talked about six hundred seven, but we thought of it either as suicide squadron or the squadron to which you really could only go with experience. And when Mao said, Well, Win Commander Lennard Cheshire, who was then commanding the squadron, will be happy to see you tomorrow. This great legend of a pilot, although he was only two years older than me, I could hardly believe it. And I was the first pilot to go to that squadron without previously flying bombers.

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  19. And I can't remember how I arrived at home or I think my father took it in his stride. He had been through a lot, you know, and they weren't demonstrative as perhaps we might be today.

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  20. dragged this shivering sodden sergeant pilot and took me on board and filled me with rum, and took me into the engine room which was very, very hot, and took off my uniform which eventually dried almost stiff too stiff to put on.

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  21. You know I am not sure I think I was a bit busy. and I had a May West, which was an inflatable life jacket, and I saw them trying to launch a lifeboat from the nearest ship. And sometime as they were peddling towards me, I was on top of Web and so were they and in the end I was shouting I'm over here.

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  22. Tolds them, but by that time I was down to a height when I knew I'd have to go into the sea, and I'd been told you should try and land along the waves and not into them.

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  23. Well they certainly had their eye on the ball because that telegram probably arrived the morning after the action. It was my first sortie we were on a convoy patrol, three of us, and suddenly the air seemed to be full of flack, and when we looked around there was an aircraft above us, and my flight commander said we'll tally ho, and off we went. So when I finally saw this aeroplane with this Yunkers with one engine on fire, and as I got as close as I could, the rear gunner woke up and plastered my aeroplane. I felt things thudding into it. One piece took a corner of the windscreen off, so I dived away, and so did he. I never saw him again, and I had a sick aeroplane on my hands. The engine wasn't functioning properly, temperatures were slowly rising, pressure slowly dropping. I was still losing altitude steadily. Right on the far horizon there were a few dots, and I stared

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  24. That's going to hear Danny K that extraordinary, wonderful entertainer of the fifties and sixties, and this piece of tubby the tuba was a great favourite with my children. Poor Tubby couldn't quite get involved with the orchestra and suddenly miracle happened and he became the star of the show and they absolutely loved it.

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  25. I think because of my service experience I was tending to be a disciplinarian, but I think through influences you learn and perhaps more relaxed than my parents had been.

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  26. Yes, to some degree we were always well turned out he was always very smart himself, and he was very, very keen on our getting a good education and doing well once we were given the opportunity. What he wanted, I think, for us after the experience of the twenties and the Great Depression, was that we should find a job which had security. Well, I wanted to join the RF on a short service commission when I was seventeen, but he wouldn't countersign my applications. He said four years fine, what are you going to do after that? These four years are very important to your education. And then when the time came when conscription was introduced, and I would have had to go anyway into the army, that's when he relented and allowed me to apply for the RF volunteer reserve.

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  27. Oh yes, she was because she went on, she married a man called Jim Mullison, who was another pioneer aviator, and they set up lots of records crossing the Atlantic in a single engineered monoplane.

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  28. That would be about 14, I think. We did a circuit and landing, and the pilot when the landing run stopped turned around and said, well, that's it. And I said, Is that all? He said, well, I'll give you another one. So I got two the price of one

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  29. I was very interested in flying, all I wanted to do was to fly, and at that time our heroes were pioneer aviators, so people like Amy Johnson, who as a typist learned to fly and took off and flew solo to Australia, and Allen Cobb was trying to make Britain air minded, and he used to take his flying circus around the country. In fact, I had my first flight in an Allen Cobb air show, and I believe that many, many Battle of Britain pilots did likewise.

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  30. Yes, I think my parents' generation was the one that suffered worst. They were married in april nineteen seventeen, so and she'd known him before, so she'd had a man in France, and then within twenty years as another war and she had four sons. What they endured is quite incredible.

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  31. But certainly by the time I was about eleven years old I would hear my father and uncle and others saying Are we really going to have to fight the Germans again? And they were horrified at the prospect.

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  32. I think he would have said it was in the line of duty. He came home and from the first wound and recovered and sent out again as many, many thousands and thousands were.

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  33. A little bit, not much, but it was quite obvious he had a terrible scar on his chest, where the bullet had come out. He had volunteered in august nineteen fourteen, he joined the Royal Fusiliers, and he went over the top on that day, first day of the Somme, and was hit within a few moments. They were all very heavily laden with a pack on their back and a rifle, and he was knocked over by this bullet which hit him. He'd only gone about ten yards, and so he fell down and he fell on his back, and therefore he couldn't move, and he couldn't get out of a water bottle, and he lay there whole day, and it was a hot day. and it was lucky that late towards the evening that they found him.

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  34. But just number two Tommy Dorsey, playing I'm getting sentimental over you is a wonderful, wonderful melody and he was a great trombonus. When I was about seventeen with two friends we set up a nightclub called the Edmony Shadows on the upper floors of his parents house. The great advantage was that halfway up the final staircase there was a window which looked out on the next door pub where there was also a window so unknown to his parents we could wangle in a few bottles of beer and occasionally we would persuade a girl to come too our ebony shadows.

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  35. Well, it's inevitable, I think, because the losses are spaced out, and one is moved by seeing the coffins arriving. One night in march nineteen forty four. Lamacand lost ninety five aircraft, which was nearly seven hundred airmen in one night. They couldn't obviously because they were shot down on the other side, so they could not be brought back. If there was a cortege of seven hundred, what would we do? It's so different today.

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  36. I got out of that airplane and looked at it, and thought about operations. I really did wonder how did we do it? I know it was a long time ago and I was young and fit and I was a professional flyer really at the time. But I thought about some of my friends who had been lost, and it was an emotional experience.

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  37. It was far more emotional than I expected. The Lancaster is a war machine it's very cramped and he far more so than I remembered, and when they gave me the controls, they were much heavier than I remembered And it started wandering off as if the Lancaster was saying to me, If you think you can come back after sixty odd years and carry on, we'll have another think.

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  38. Well, I think most flying people would agree with me that being a pilot or a member of our crew makes one very self reliant. Well, you appreciate that what happens is in your own hands, and if you go through a few experiences, you then find out a great deal about yourself, about how much you can take, and those experiences are Even the bad ones are helpful for the future, but what it taught me was that I could rely on myself that I had some skills and I had some capacity.

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  39. My first record takes me back to nineteen forty three when I was on my way into Bomer Command, and the one thing senior officers did not want was someone arriving at Tago on a mission and suddenly saying I've got violent toothache. So we all had to go to the dentist and pronounced dentally fit. The dentist I met had just returned from New York, and whilst he was probing, he played Frank Sinatra, and I didn't know who it was, but I was very taken by the voice. So I guess I might have been amongst the first few people ever to hear Sinatra in this country.

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  40. Well, because for ten years I've been chairman of the Bomber Command Association. And we have several gatherings a year, and mainly in the last three years it's been the memorial which has occupied my days and nights and weekends and thoughts, so that yes, it's all come back to me.

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  41. They came and all over the world have a great deal in common, and once you find out if you meet a stranger that he too is a pilot, there's no problem you've got lots and lots of things to talk about.

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  42. That's very strange, actually you realise that you're both airmen, you both had a job to do, and well we sort of hugged each other and were glad that we hadn't met in the skies over Norway.

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  43. When I met him at Berkeley University a few years ago when a symposium was put on about the sinking of Tirpits, and he, it appeared, was a pilot in a German fighter squadron which was moved forty miles south of Tromser where Tirpitz was sitting, and for some extraordinary reason he and his colleagues missed us in their Messerschmitts, and when I met Kurt and he tried to explain all this to me, and as I got to know him better, I got to like him very much.

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