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Tony West

lines on the record: 27
first: 2017-12-25
most recent: 2017-12-25
sittings or episodes: 1
sources: podcast

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“Well, as the chair of the National Democratic Redistricting Committee, I'm going to... I'm going to make sure that in 2021 we have fair census in 2020 and fair redistricting in 2021. And we're going to throw out of office these Idiots who have passed these laws, who have perpetuated these systems that are anti-women, anti people of color, and I think that we can do this. We saw it in Virginia in 2017. We're going to do great in the midterms in 2018, and we're going to put a new president in 2020.”
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“The one thing that one of many things that I'm going to do is set an unambiguous tone at the top of intentionality in bringing women in every single significant decision that we make at that company.”
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“Women power there, where in that election three, four weeks or so ago, women ran who said, I'm sick of what's going on. I'm going to run for office. And women won. And I think women can lead us to a better place with the power that they have, with the power that you have, but you got to use that power. It's not enough to yell and scream at the television, to watching MSNBC, Fox, CNN, whatever. You can't read the newspapers. What is it that you're doing? What are you doing to make this better?”
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“The power that was exhibited that day and the power that has also been seen as women have gone to congressional offices, senators' offices, congressman's offices, as they were in the process of trying to take Obamacare apart. We have, you have power and that power has to be used. I'm old enough to remember that the people united, focused, energized, stopped the war. Nixon didn't stop the Vietnam War because he thought the military objectives had been met. That war was stopped because people were focused and said, we're not going to have it. There was the loss of public support. This inflection point that we have has to be something to galvanizes people and in particular women in particular women. In Virginia, boy, we saw”
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“That we've got to hold on to, and we have got to make it work for all the positive things that I think it can potentially give to us. But we should not be too optimistic. Just because it's there doesn't mean that it's going to lead to something that's lasting and that's positive. There is, I think, the need for action. But I also think that we cannot underestimate you all. cannot underestimate the power that you have. And if you don't think that you have power, you think about the power Trump got inaugurated and that was, you know, well, drank, I was drunk, but you think about the power of that march the next day. All those women, my wife and my two kids had the hats with the things on.”
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“Well, first off, my wife is from Alabama, and she used to say that in Alabama they always said, thank God for Mississippi. I fear that if he's elected, people in Mississippi will be saying, thank God for Alabama. That's how bad it could be. Know it's, I think we have here a potential, a potential inflection point.”
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“The systems and structures and paradigms in which we operate actually reinforce these power differences which lead to sexual assault and sexual violence. And then it's incumbent upon those of us who can to act Whether you're in a position where you can act on policy or you can act in the C-suite or you can act in any way that you can.”
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“I mean, and I think therein, and so you turn that into what that means is that for so many of us, we're kind of like, it's like air. This is the norm. And what was so shocking is or so disturbing is that for so many women, this is the norm, but there's nothing normal about it. There's nothing normal about that. And so then the question is, okay, then what do you do with that realization? And for me, it begins with really listening, not just hearing the stories. I do think one of the things I do fear is that when we hear the stories and we hear so many and you start hearing the numbers, that people become numb to that. That does concern me. But really hearing and internalizing the universality of it so that that becomes an opportunity to notice, to notice patterns. To notice how our language, how our behavior, how”
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“I mean, there's a real faith you have to be intentional. You have to be very intentional and very cognizant. But I will say one of the things that this whole experience has, as we've seen it unfold over the last several months, has really brought home to me. And, you know, and I am, look, I'm someone who has really spent my entire life very committed to these issues, being intentional about how I recruit and who I hire and making sure that women are at the table and raised by a phenomenal woman, my mom, who's in the audience, Peggy West some words. Grew up with strong women. You know, grew up with strong women and really cared about these issues. I have to say it was both disturbing and enlightening to come to the realization that I did not fully appreciate just how pervasive sexual harassment. Sexual assault”
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“I actually don't think a lot of victims are as ashamed. I think they are bullied into being ashamed. I think that's really, and because when you do, when you say I'm going to make it easier for you, and I think the media has kind of had it and is starting to publish these stories as long as they can get contemporaneous assertions that these people said. I mean, the Roy Moore thing is a perfect example of that, is that these women said their stories, they didn't wait, they had some off the record, some on the record, and now the women who Urban called liars by him are now coming out with even more. Like we've had enough, despite the fact that they've been bullied and threatened and everything else. So it's interesting. Let's finish up talking about allies. We've got just a few more minutes. One of the things I've also noted that I think is really interesting is most of the stories that have come out just recently around sexual harassment and everything else have been written by women.”
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“One thing I think we have to bring, I agree with what Tony said, but we, as I'm kind of getting back to what I said before, we've also got to get to the place where There can't be shame. There can't be an issue in being a victim, you know? Why is it So hard, and it is hard. And women who do it have a great deal of courage in the society as we have constructed it. Why is that the case? Why is that the case?”
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“Well, I think that's right, but I think that you do have to, in all of these kinds of cases, approach it from the perspective of the victim. I think that has to drive the analysis. And so where that flows, I think, I don't think you, I've always believed that sunshine is the best disinfecting. And I never see progress in the law. You never see progress in society when you're using the law as something to cover up a blanket, to cover up certain things. It's always much better if you, this is why we have open courts, this is why we have public courts, this is why it's important. Yet, I still think at the end of the day, you want to make sure You know, in the do no harm kind of approach that you're approaching those kinds of issues from the perspective of the victim.”
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“We have to It becomes a much more difficult thing to adjudicate, to bring into the system. And that's a societal thing that we have to get at where women are the victims. I mean, they should be not differentiated because of their gender. You're just a victim. You're just a victim. And we need to hear your stories.”
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“No, no, no, no. There's a huge amount of that and there's a culture thing that we have to change there. It always struck me that when I was a judge that when I was a U.S. attorney in Washington, D.C. A man hit a man, no question. You try that case. That's an assault. A man hits a woman with whom he has a relationship and then there's all kinds of things, well, you know.”
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“From my perspective, shining light on problems is the way you solve problems. But it requires a certain degree of bravery for victims to come forward and tell their stories. And that's a societal problem. It's always interesting to me that it's difficult for a woman to talk about a sexual assault in the way that a guy who is assaulted by a stranger in a bar, something like that. That's a relatively easy story to tell. So why do we as a society make it more difficult for women to tell their stories?”
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“$80,000 over our money. And from my perspective, I don't particularly like the notion of hiding things like that. I mean, real progress is made by the exposure of negative conduct and then what happens to address that conduct. Now having said that, You know, there may be victims who, for a variety of reasons, do not want to have exposed The issues that are the subject of the non disclosure agreement, although more often than not, my suspicion is the person with power who is saying I will only settle this if there is a non-disclosure agreement.”
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“Right, you see, I didn't even know that this thing existed until the last couple of weeks, that there's a fund that allows congressmen, some of whom were my biggest tormentors. Blake Fahrenholt, that fat guy from Texas.”
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“A lot of places, but it was particularly broken, I think, in all fairness. I mean, look, you know, I would not have taken this job and I would not have taken this challenge if I did not believe that, A, Dara Khazrashahi was committed to real change. And B, that it was actually possible because so many of the issues that Uber suffers from are self-inflicted.”
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“I think it's both, actually. I think it's both. I think because the law at its best is sort of manifested in the way people interact with one another. And so clearly it's both. And so, I mean, you asked the question, you know, why did I take this job? Actually, the opportunity to do just that, when to be able to have the impact of helping to put in place processes and systems that actually work well to protect both people, whether it's women or people of color or frankly riders and drivers, that was an incredible opportunity to me. So that's really my constituents. But the constituency group that you're also speaking to, I think Eric rightly says, is management. And you had a broken system.”
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“Identify cultural issues that are having a negative impact on the entities that we are a part of. We have the responsibility of surfacing those things. But it is also the responsibility of management to listen to those lawyers. And it shouldn't be difficult for lawyers to bring to the attention of management those concerns. You shouldn't be penalized. You shouldn't be seen as a problem if you are raising those issues.”
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“Yeah, I think lawyers, you know, given the training that we have, the place that we are supposed to occupy in these entities, that we are the ones who should be responsible for, I think, more than maybe any other body of people the development of appropriate cultures. We are trained in the law. We're supposed to know the way in which things are to be done. We know how what the rules are supposed to be like. We should be, again, within the appropriate context, we should be the enforcers. And to the extent that we detect issues and problems, it is our responsibility not only as members of the corporation, but as lawyers, as lawyers, to bring to the attention of the appropriate people problems, issues, not only with regard to specific people and specific incidents, but also with regard to cultures, to the extent that we”
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“I think legal departments have to be empowered. They can't be ignored. They also have to understand that there's a responsibility, a particular responsibility, I think, that lawyers have in the context of an organization, whether that's in government or it's in the private sector. In the same way that the Justice Department occupies a special place within the executive branch of the United States government. We are the watchdogs. Right.”
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“Let's talk generally because I don't have the ability to release the report. And I think as an attorney for the company, there's only so much I can say about what it is that we did.”
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“We don't need to do that. That's not who we are. We're better than that. We have better technology. We have better people. We have a better product. And we don't need to follow people around to gain competitive intelligence. And everything we have to do as a company has to rest on three things. It has to rest on transparency, integrity, and everything that we do, and accountability.”
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“Notwithstanding all the things that you've said, which I think there's ample justification for a lot of what you said, but I am very proud to be at Uber. There are incredibly talented people, incredibly dynamic environment doing what I really do believe is going to change the future of work and the way that we think about how people and things move. Absolutely groundbreaking. And so I said that in my memo. But what I also said was I've also learned some things. I've learned that and I've reaffirmed to me that I've made the right decision. But what I've also learned are some things that disturb me, not disclosing the breach is one, this human surveillance for competitive intelligence is another. And I said, look,”
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“Awareness of some of the legal issues. And early that next week, I learned about some practices that a component of our security department had been engaged in, which involved human surveillance for competitive intelligence. I've been in the public sector, I've been in the private sector. You don't have to be Well credentialed lawyer to look at that and say, What the hell is this? And so when I learned about it, I talk with Dara, who said, What the hell is this? And I wrote a note to the security team who was at that time, had just that day had now been reporting to me because the person who had led that team had been terminated as a result of not disclosing the breach. And I said something very simple, which is that First, I am actually very proud to be at Uber.”
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“Look, I think a lot of questions, good questions. The reason I wrote the memos because I needed to be written And for those of you who may not be familiar with it, my first day, my first official day on the job, we announced a data breach that had occurred a year before. It had not been reported to affected parties. And so my first official day I spent on the phone talking to a number of state regulators, state AGs, FTC commissioners saying, hi, my name is Tony West, I'm new. By the way And over that weekend, I began to really kind of get into because this was the day before Thanksgiving actually, and then over the weekend I began to try to get”
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