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Tzipi Hotovely

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first: 2024-10-11
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“7th of October, and I could feel a true sympathy to what Israel is going through, and Britain is a great ally of Israel, and I believe that my job is to make it stronger, the friendship.”
2024-10-11 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Tzipi Hotovely One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yes, I think that was a moment I will always remember from meeting her and she was very impressive. She told my husband that the biggest lesson from COVID is the fact we need to invest in our human connections and in our relationships and the relationship that matter to us. So basically she said invest in your family and your friends in the people you love. This is my translation to the way she was saying it. And I think she's right. I think that's the most important thing in life. And diplomacy is a border version of investing in relationships. And I do that with a lot of passion and love. I invite many people to my home. I open my home to the people around this country. I can tell you that the British cabinets and the opposition, they all came to sign the condolesis book we opened at the embassy for the”
2024-10-11 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Tzipi Hotovely One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So I said, I remember that from watching it on TV later as a grown-up, but I was really a baby when that happened. And for me, a peace with the Arab world was a possible thing when I grew up as a child. But I do think we need to make sure that we have the proper education on both sides and we will have a better future for all of us.”
2024-10-11 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Tzipi Hotovely One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I think I love people. I truly love people. I truly believe that change is possible. You know, we were talking that this is before Yom Kippur. Yom Kippur is the one day in the year where we reflect and we believe that we can change and transform as human beings. And this is my Jewish reflection on this. I truly believe in change. I was born in a year that Israel had its first political upheaval. So for me a change is always a possible. I will quote a nice story for you so we'll have a little bit of optimism. I remember the Egyptian ambassador coming to me when I was a deputy foreign minister and asking me if I remember when Sadat landed in Israel because it was a very big moment.”
2024-10-11 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Tzipi Hotovely One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“No, I think that by using this formula in a way, you're making your life easy because you don't ask the hard questions. How do we build educational system that is not radicalizing those young people? Israelis are raised on the idea that peace is possible and peace is a desire. Young Palestinians are raised on the idea that Jews can be dehumanized and be killed in their beds because they're not humans. This is something you cannot tolerate after the Holocaust. This is anti-Semitism. You need to make sure that the Palestinian educational system is not raising young children on anti-Semitism.”
2024-10-11 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Tzipi Hotovely One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I think all Israelis know that we never doubted the need for coexistence. We never said that Palestinians shouldn't be there. We never said that. We always said we need to find the right structure to work together. And by the way, I always thought it's a very narrow-minded thinking to think there is just one formula to fix a problem. And I think after 30 years of trying in one direction that apparently moved on to more radicalism, the Palestinian side, we do need to rethink about more creative solutions. I keep on saying that.”
2024-10-11 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Tzipi Hotovely One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“All peace agreements are based on the idea that in a certain point we had that with Egypt after the Yom Kippur war was one of the deadliest wars we had in the region and then after a few years after you know that a peace agreement was So it means always rally is one piece. It's not a matter of right or left. And I believe that only after eradicating the radicals, basically by removing the infrastructure and the terrorists, this is where more opportunities open. If you are stuck with ideology that doesn't recognize your right to exist, you won't have any chance for peace. So actually...”
2024-10-11 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Tzipi Hotovely One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I'm sure the Prime Minister As you know, I've been here. There were three different Israeli governments leaded by Naftali Bennett and Yar Lapid, so they all share the same concept of thinking. And I think the all-Israeli system now is rethinking about our security strategy. So yes, we do doubt many of our security strategies. After such an event, you can't just carry on.”
2024-10-11 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Tzipi Hotovely One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“In the mirror, I can tell you I can tell you that I lost many nights of not sleeping after the 7th of October because I was asking myself where did we go wrong in not understanding that from the other side there are people that don't want to have peace with us just like the South and communities believed they hosted these people in their homes and they gave the intel to the Hamas terrorists to murder the families one by one so I'm just saying we didn't understand ideology of our enemy we didn't understand so I have I have big doubts about the strategy that led us to the 7th of October the strategy that said a terror organization can live next to Israel”
2024-10-11 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Tzipi Hotovely One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Because I get the support of the average British person when they're coming to me and they're saying, we would have done the same. If people would have killed in their beds like Hamas did, we would have done the same. We would have made sure this ideology won't have the power to re-make the 7th of October again, just we heard from Hamas spokesperson so many times on your TV, they said we will do it again and again if we just can. So we are making sure that the 7th of October won't happen again. I think it's the very basic promise of every government to its people. You'll be safe.”
2024-10-11 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Tzipi Hotovely One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I want to say that we believe diplomatically the IRGC should be proscribed as a terror organization and more sanctions should be imposed on Iran because in the end of the day a country that is firing 200 rockets on another country on unprovoked situation is a country that should pay the price for that.”
2024-10-11 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Tzipi Hotovely One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Islamic Republic of Iran? No one is against Iran. We are against the IRGC and we believe it should be proscribed as well. But they are our told.”
2024-10-11 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Tzipi Hotovely One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“My answer is that modern Germany is very friendly with modern Britain, and it couldn't have been the case if Nazi ideology would have prevailed. You eradicated a very radical ideology to give the common people that want to live in peace the opportunity to have it. What we're doing is making the Middle East a better place because we make sure that those radical ideologies won't exist in the framework of terrorism on our borders and it's better for Saudi, it's better for Israelis, it's better for Palestinians. It's better for the Lebanese.”
2024-10-11 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Tzipi Hotovely One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Bahwain, UAE, Morocco joined. And I want to say that the friendship that was created here with the Arab ambassadors was something that I understood how much we have so much in common. And when I'm saying something in common, I'm not speaking just about mutual enemies. We actually have serious regional issues to solve together. And they know that Israel is an asset to the region. I want to tell you something, Nick. I believe that the seventh of October attack happened because we were very close to have another deal with Saudi. And Hamas wanted to prevent that. So there were people in the Middle East want to prevent peace and there are people in the Middle East that want to achieve peace. And Israel has a proven record to be in a country that wants peace and knows how to achieve it. Because we signed agreement with Egypt, with Jordan, with the Gulf countries, and we're willing to sign a peace agreement with”
2024-10-11 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Tzipi Hotovely One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“We all changed. We all changed on the 7th of October. But I want to go back to the Abraham Accords. One of the biggest achievement, I believe, in the last years in the Middle East, I think that the Abraham Accords was a moment of a shining light for the future of Israel. The Abraham Accords. I'm sure the BBC listeners know. But the Abraham Accords was the peace agreement signed between Israel and the Gulf countries.”
2024-10-11 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Tzipi Hotovely One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So let's move on. I'm sorry to let you down on this, but this is numbers that I can stand behind. We killed majority of the people that got killed in Gaza were involved with terrorism. And you know that.”
2024-10-11 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Tzipi Hotovely One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So, who do you believe? Who do you believe? The figures are for civilian deaths. I'm just telling you the figure of something regular war you have one to nine and Israel created a ratio that in any case would be...”
2024-10-11 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Tzipi Hotovely One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Nick, I must say, I'm really disappointed that you prefer not to believe to a democratic country and you prefer to believe to your terror organization.”
2024-10-11 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Tzipi Hotovely One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“No, no, no. The data that is contested is the fact you are quoting Hamas as if it's a data. Where are you bringing your data from Hamas?”
2024-10-11 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Tzipi Hotovely One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Is one combatant to nine civilians, and Israel created a ratio of one to one. Professor Andrew Roberts were defending Israel in parliament, saying he's never seen a war operated better than the way Israel was operating in Gaza. One to one”
2024-10-11 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Tzipi Hotovely One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So, actually, here I can tell you how much my sympathy goes to every loss of life because I don't want to see anyone losing its life in a war. But then I'm asking myself why we don't blame together Hamas for creating this situation where civilians are in the center of all the terror storage, why they turned UNRWA schools into a rocket storage, why they turned Al-Shifa hospital to the main headquarter of terrorism. Those are the main questions we need to ask. So they created a situation that no other army in the world could have handled it better. And actually, yes, I have a quote from the UN. This is the one, right?”
2024-10-11 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Tzipi Hotovely One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Nick, one of the things people forget at the sixth of October there was a complete ceasefire. Israelis lived their life peacefully they wanted to celebrate a Jewish holiday that in the end of the day turn out to be barbaric attack on people's homes, living rooms and bedrooms.”
2024-10-11 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Tzipi Hotovely One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“In my political years, definitely No, as a child, definitely. Most Israelis experienced a meeting with Palestinians. Most of the grown-up Israelis before the Oslo course grew up with having a lot of meetings with Palestinians. Should you do rather than impolitic? We lived in much better coexistence.”
2024-10-11 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Tzipi Hotovely One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yes. Yes, I think every Israeli back then had, I lived in Jerusalem when coffee shops exploded two minutes from where I was standing in the street. We lost friends in terror attacks. Of course, terror was part of our grown-up living experience. And today, when I hear that a Palestinian authority still continues with the slay policy, which is a repulsive policy of rewarding people for killing innocent Jews, I'm asking Western people, do you think this is the Palestinian Authority that can actually be alternative to the Hamas ideology?”
2024-10-11 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Tzipi Hotovely One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And I think my political views, obviously as a diplomat, I don't carry my political views, I carry the government, as I told you before, I represent a different government. I think today the majority of Israelis agree on most of the things. But you were asking me where my views are coming from. Very simple. For my grown-up years as a high school kid in Tel Aviv, after the Oslo Accords, Israel experienced the worst terror wave we ever experienced. Tel Aviv was a dangerous place to be in. Buses were exploding. I had a very, very personal experience of the fact that if this is what the Palestinians are rewarding Israelis for signing a peace agreement, I'm starting to doubt how much the Palestinians really want to have a peace with us. So it's coming from a very pragmatic point of view of understanding what's the other side is interested with.”
2024-10-11 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Tzipi Hotovely One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“That we cannot live with jihadi ideology on our doorstep. We cannot live with organization. It's like I compare it to the Third Reich. You cannot have a Jewish state sitting next to the Third Reich ideology. This just doesn't make sense.”
2024-10-11 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Tzipi Hotovely One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“You don't get to hear the leaders of the opposition attacking Netanyahu for doing the operation in Lebanon. You don't get to hear a sentence. I didn't dispute that for a second. And there is a reason to it because they understand, and I think this is the lesson we learned from October 7th.”
2024-10-11 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Tzipi Hotovely One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So we were country that started from a very socialist approach. And I think from 1977, there is no socialism in Israel. And this is why Labor Party is dying in Israel. This is why you see all the opposition parties are not putting out the way and waving in the flag of socialism. They're all part of a free market approach. This is a big change that happened to Israel. And I think it created the very vibrant economy we have. We are a free market economy. The second thing that happened in Israel, I think, and this is where I think I will surprise you because we like to surprise you. You have a wrong understanding of Israeli politics and you have a wrong understanding of the mindset of the majority of Israelis. The majority of Israelis today, they believe that what the government is doing at the moment, which is fighting two terror organizations on our border, is the right thing to do.”
2024-10-11 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Tzipi Hotovely One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I want to go back to the Israeli people But I want to go back to the changes in Israeli people because you were asking me about that. I think it's a deep question.”
2024-10-11 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Tzipi Hotovely One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I'm afraid there was never a representative leadership, a Palestinian leadership, that agreed to that. That's part of the problem. Well, there was. They shook hands on...”
2024-10-11 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Tzipi Hotovely One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“All the Palestinians. No, but I'm just trying to say that people that want to understand what is occupying the Palestinian mindset, they're speaking about the greater Israel. This is why they put from the river to the sea on the Big Ben in London, because they see from the river to the sea as something that Israel shouldn't exist. And this is where I believe that this is something that shouldn't be allowed in any country.”
2024-10-11 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Tzipi Hotovely One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I tell you why the campaign is in place because when you hear the way the Palestinians are referring to all those communities in the south that were attacked, they call them settlers because for them, the whole Israel is one big settlement.”
2024-10-11 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Tzipi Hotovely One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It's very, very interesting because I do want to speak about changes that Israeli society is being through. And for me, kibbutz and settlement, it's the same thing because the kibbutz team were basically communities were sitting on the border to defend Israel. And we have the same with the settlement. The settlements are part of our eastern border. We believe that this is part of the land of Israel, just like the kibbutzim believe that they were part of the land of Israel. And the settlers call themselves the modern kibbutzim. So actually the settlers and the kibbutzim in a way are expressing a very similar mindset, in my opinion. But if you said that to the original scene, maybe our five.”
2024-10-11 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Tzipi Hotovely One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Not really, yeah, no, my parents, yes, but it's actually a very multicultural city. So when we want to know who will win the election, they use my city as the best forecast for who will win the election because it has all the streams in Israel and all the groups. So I think actually my city was.”
2024-10-11 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Tzipi Hotovely One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“From Soviet Georgia. No, no, actually not. Well, your parents came from Georgia. Yes, but actually Rechovat is one of the iconic cities of Israel because it's famous for the Weizmann Institute and it was the base of our first president, Jaim Weizmann, who is very much familiar with the history of this country because we call Manchester the cradle of Zionism because of Weitzmann's activity to fight for the Jewish state. So actually it's a very old city in terms of its history in the Zionist. Many people came from.”
2024-10-11 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Tzipi Hotovely One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“No, no, no, I'll give you a stream of religion is what is called in American language, modern orthodox. So modern Orthodox, being translated from Hebrew as religious Zionist. So”
2024-10-11 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Tzipi Hotovely One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“No, it's actually much more simple. So I was a journalist. I was in one of Israel's political. And then one day I got a phone call. It was the head of the opposition and he invited me to come. And I got a lecturer about Iran. And he said, a very famous quote from Netanyahu. We said, the year is 1930 and Iran is getting closer to have nuclear weapons. So basically it was comparing them to the Nazi regime with their aspirations. And I think that I remember very well this conversation, and after a while there was election in Israel and he offered me to join the Likud party. And I decided I was 30 years old, I was the youngest member of parliament back then, and I decided to become to turn my activism in the media to activism and political.”
2024-10-11 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Tzipi Hotovely One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“In a situation like that in a Western country, I would have said that this is something that's beyond my ability to see. Let's talk about what you thought UK government wouldn't have responded. Let's talk about what...”
2024-10-11 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Tzipi Hotovely One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And the UK angle is that Britain and Israel are really close allies on intelligence and security. And when it comes to Iran, we provide a very valuable intelligence to the British agencies. And this is the same Iran that is supplying Russia with all those UAVs that are operating in Ukraine. So this is a threat to the continent. And you have a direct threat to the UK. And let's just put this small piece of information that Israel was under attack of 180 missiles on our cities, on Jerusalem, on Tel Aviv, and all around the center of Israel. This could have caused a loss of life of thousands of people if Israelis were not disciplined people that went into the shelters and have very sophisticated defenses system that Israel has. Can you imagine a country that would have just said 180 missiles on our country and we can just carry on? Can you imagine?”
2024-10-11 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Tzipi Hotovely One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I think with America there were many, many differences of how to approach the Iranian issue. And actually, I can share with you that we are much closer in our views to our British colleagues throughout the world.”
2024-10-11 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Tzipi Hotovely One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I tell you where we stand this week. We stand this week that the head of MI5, a very respected British official, was speaking about the threat of Iran to your country. So I just brought his speech because I think what he's saying is something that every British person should think about it seriously. So yes. So he said, since the killing of Masa Amini in 2022, we've seen a plot after plot here in the UK of unprecedented pace and scale. Since January 2022, with our police partners, we saw over 20 attempts to kill. British civilians. So Iran is a threat to you. This is why we saw your Royal Air Force joining the International Coalition. At the 14th of April, because you don't see Iran as a local threat to Israelis or to just a problem to the region, Iran is making the whole world under the danger.”
2024-10-11 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Tzipi Hotovely One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“They do. They may disagree some people with what you think the solution is. I'm actually asking you, if this is the case, and why do you say Israelis escalating when it's actually Hezbollah's escalating? Okay, we'll just be the one. Because we are just all we want, by the way, and it's important to say because the British people respect very much UN resolutions, is to have a full implementation of 1701 UN resolution that says Hezbollah should be beyond a Litany River, this resolution being ignored for too many years and created a dangerous situation.”
2024-10-11 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Tzipi Hotovely One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Which was to get the hostages back to take around the Middle East. No, but what I'm worried about, I will go to our Prime Minister's statements in a second. But what I'm worried about, that people that watch the BBC, they don't see the context of Israel being under attack for a year. They see the context.”
2024-10-11 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Tzipi Hotovely One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Do you believe any rational government would have just tolerated that and that response? The point I was making to you is that the Prime Minister.”
2024-10-11 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Tzipi Hotovely One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Actually, this is exactly where I kind of look at the BBC sometimes and no offense. I know this is national broadcast services for most of people take their information from the BBC, but sometimes I just feel like so much distortion is going on because you tell the story from the middle. I mean, you're a journalist. You know, you should tell the story from the beginning. And the beginning is very clear. At the 8th of October, Hezbollah joined Hamas. They were firing on Israel non-stop. We had to evacuate 60,000 people from their homes because we knew that the end of the day, if they will stay there, we'll have massive killing of civilians. And just yesterday we had a young couple. They were just walking with their dog and they didn't have enough time to go to a shelf and they got brutally murdered by a rocket attack. Twelve children in a football game.”
2024-10-11 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Tzipi Hotovely One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Territory in Gaza and they turn it into a nightmare to the Palestinians and to the Israelis, they turn it into a terror hub the worst ever they used international support to create this horrible tunnel underground city that only had one purpose to threat the Jewish people and the Jewish people.”
2024-10-11 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Tzipi Hotovely One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So, I think this is exactly where I want to fill in the gap because what I think people misunderstand is the type of ideology we are facing. Because I would have expect British people more than any other people around the world to understand Israel because your history of the Second World War. Britain was standing there alone with the great leadership of Winston Churchill when they had to face the horrible tyranny of Nazi Germany. When the whole world was trying to appease Hitler, Churchill was there to say appeasement will never work with this type of ideology. And I think we're facing the same ideology coming from Tehran through its proxies, with Hezbollah, with Hamas, with the Houtis, and in a way I think there are many, many people are still stuck in old frameworks of, well, if only the Palestinians would have had a state, no, they were given the opportunity at two thousand five to have a flourishing term.”
2024-10-11 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Tzipi Hotovely One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I want to say again I saw just this week people standing in London with the signs I love Hezbollah so you have this type of distortion in understanding what's a terror is all about what is a terror organization you're talking about”
2024-10-11 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Tzipi Hotovely One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So tell, first of all, what I'm worried about. I'm worried about the fact that there were young people and people standing in the streets of London that were supporting the massacre. I mean, how can you support a barbaric action totally unprovoked of killing people in their bed, raping women in a music festival? How can you support that? I mean, I don't understand just coming from humanity values. I mean, you call yourself a liberal. How can you support that? This is the first thing that I want to ask. It's tiny, Mino.”
2024-10-11 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Tzipi Hotovely One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“You're absolutely right about the echoes of the Holocaust. I don't think there is one person in Israel that didn't felt like history repeats itself in the most barbaric way. And unfortunately, Hamas did have a very similar ideology to the Nazi ideology because for them, they wanted to kill each one of us if they just could. I'm afraid this echo, I think for many people in this country, people understand that the Holocaust was a horrible thing that happened to the Jewish people, but I'm afraid at the same time they don't connect the genocidal ideologies still exist out there that antisemitism is not just a word that describes people that are screaming on Jews, but also people that don't want the Jewish country to exist. And I think this is where they lose their sympathy to Israel. I think this is a modern...”
2024-10-11 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Tzipi Hotovely One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source