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first: 2001-10-19
most recent: 2001-10-19
sittings or episodes: 2
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“This has enabled us to know who has good will for Somalia, who are the friends of Somalia and who are not the friends of Somalia.”
2001-10-19 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.4392Resumption1 (2001) · source
“We are dealing with people who have no idea what is to be done for Somalia and who have no vision for Somalia. Nonetheless, we would like to sit down with them, but nobody can impose a solution on us. As for what we have received in the form of assistance from a neighbour, there are, despite the allegations, no arms coming by ship or by air; the only arms that are coming to Somalia are coming by truck, and they are coming from one source. It is not only small arms, unfortunately. It hurts me to say this: landmines are being planted in urban areas. If that is the gift; the signature, of a friend, it might be an oxymoron. If friends are for that, it hurts. Those weapons kill indiscriminately, mostly civilians. I would like to conclude by thanking you very much, Mr. President, for affording us this opportunity.”
2001-10-19 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.4392Resumption1 (2001) · source
“We have been pushing for that, and in all of our discussions with donors and with the United Nations we have always said that the best way to help us is to help establish the police and security forces. Yet we have not received much, as indicated in the report to which I referred earlier. How we can shoulder our responsibility in accordance with resolution 1373 (2001)? I have had some discussions with the Ambassadors of the United Kingdom, France and Russia. We would like to have bilateral discussions. If the European Union, or countries acting bilaterally, or the United Nations can help us with that, that is where our first priority lies. Our second priority is in the area of national reconciliation. Yes, the people we are dealing with are warlords.”
2001-10-19 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.4392Resumption1 (2001) · source
“Security is the most important issue for the country and for the Somali people, yet we are told that less than $1 million has been provided for security - for police training, for salaries or even for food for the police and security forces. We find that a little baffling, because if security is the key to bringing about peace and stability to Somalia, and if the international community has given $100 million, we would have thought that at least a good part of it would have been expended on security - on the police force, or on information-gathering, for example, to combat international terrorism. That is what has been done in the past 12 months. In all honesty, we do not expect much to come from that source.”
2001-10-19 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.4392Resumption1 (2001) · source
“Coupled with that is the fact that the great majority of the Somali people are pastoralists and rely on livestock, and we cannot export the livestock because of the fear of Rift Valley fever. This combination of drought and the inability to export livestock has been very damaging to the entire livelihood of a large percentage of the Somali people. I would like to say one or two words about the issue of economic and humanitarian assistance, and what has been given to Somalia. According to the General Assembly's humanitarian assistance report, Somalia has supposedly received about $100 million in the past 12 months. More than $50 million has supposedly been provided by United Nations agencies.”
2001-10-19 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.4392Resumption1 (2001) · source
“We want to do it, not to help anybody else, but in our own self-defence - we are not doing anybody a favour. And if we have to do it with our bare hands, we will do so. But we would like the international community to be better informed. Those who are pretending to be in the know - the supposed cognoscenti - are not offering a way out of this difficulty, this global menace. And pointing fingers at Member States for self-serving purposes will not help anybody. It will not help this Council. The call for humanitarian assistance to the blighted Somalis is most welcome. The best foreign aid for Somalis would be rainfall, but that has not been forthcoming for almost two or three seasons. We are not exaggerating; the situation is very difficult.”
2001-10-19 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.4392Resumption1 (2001) · source
“Does Ethiopia have the facts? We heard all of these innuendoes. We heard all the self- serving assertions. We would like to see the facts. We will not shy away from discharging our responsibilities to our own people and to the international community. We heard of ships being sent from landlocked Afghanistan to Somali ports bringing arms and the Al Qaeda leadership. Those are preposterous assertions. They do not help our case. I do not want to engage in mud-slinging in this Council; I feel that that would not be appropriate. But I would be less than responsible ifI did not respond to the assertions that the TNG is in bed with Al Qaeda and fundamentalists. We would like to do everything possible to shoulder our responsibility in accordance with resolution 1373 (2001).”
2001-10-19 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.4392Resumption1 (2001) · source
“We have inflicted deep wounds on ourselves. We lost almost two generations, and we have no guarantee that we can even save the generation or two to come. We welcome the friends of Somalia. We welcome any positive, constructive suggestions to help us. You, Mr. President, have afforded us this opportunity to share with you our ideas, concerns and apprehensions. We feel that this Council should be treated more respectfully in terms of being given supposed facts produced by so-called experts. In a great example of guilt by association, the representative of a Member of the United Nations, our neighbour Ethiopia, said that we knew that Al Qaeda had operated in Somalia and, on top of that, that there were even components of the TNG that were extremist - that is, they were in bed with Al Qaeda. Those are very serious allegations.”
2001-10-19 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.4392Resumption1 (2001) · source
“No couple of clan elders, or people with fancy resumes, can bring about peace and reconciliation in Somalia. The Somali people have spoken. They gathered in Arta 4 they spent six months there. That is the only game in town. If there are those who think they can impose a solution on Somalia, they had better think twice, because that would be a futile exercise. If there are those who think that, because they have long borders with Somalia, a long, troubled history with Somalia or Vital national interests in Somalia, they are guaranteed an entry into the Somali story and a role in determining its outcome, they can take their show elsewhere. That will not work in Somalia. We welcome the friends of Somalia. We welcome the help of the international community, because we have been unable to measure up to this historic task.”
2001-10-19 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.4392Resumption1 (2001) · source
“The Arta process was successful because it was a Somali process. It was centred on the deliberations of Somali civil society. There is no alternative to that. I want to be very clear about this: there is no other game in town. If anybody has any other ideas, we would like to listen to them. It will not help to say, "We are going to have an open-door policy. Every Somali is entitled to be asked for his or her opinion". That is all well and good, but Somalia has gone through 10 long years, and the international community has been trying desperately to impose a solution on us. It will not work - period. There is no alternative. I suggest that members of this Council accept the facts on the ground: no warlord or group of warlords can bring peace and stability to Somalia.”
2001-10-19 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.4392Resumption1 (2001) · source
“It is an important issue not only for us, the Somali people, but also for the region and for international peace and security. As the French Ambassador said, it is not only a question of one mission being sent at some stage; there is a need for a frequent assessment of the security situation. Only then will the Council be informed adequately. I should like to comment briefly on the issue of national reconciliation in Somalia. The Arta peace process was the brainchild of President Ismail Omar Guelleh. It has succeeded for one reason: because it was different from the 12 others that preceded it. The 12 others were mainly tailor-made for the warlords, for self-appointed characters who really did not have the mandate to speak on behalf of the Somali people, or their clans or sub-clans.”
2001-10-19 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.4392Resumption1 (2001) · source
“Let me add that Somalia should not be judged any differently from the way other countries have been, and are being, judged. Somalia, despite the Somali syndrome, is a Member of the United Nations. It has been a member of all of the regional and subregional organizations, and all we ask is to be treated like the other countries that have these post-conflict problems. The United Nations has not abstained or shied away from sending peace-building missions or peacekeeping missions to Sierra Leone, to Liberia, to East Timor, to Kosovo, to Bosnia - why, then, is Somalia being singled out for the very stringent, all-embracing criteria of total safety and security? This mystifies us. What a good number of Council members have suggested broadly, as a way around this impasse, is the dispatch of a fact-finding mission to Mogadishu and to Somalia.”
2001-10-19 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.4392Resumption1 (2001) · source
“We are caught up in a vicious circle, because if, supposedly, the security arrangements in Somalia and Mogadishu are not sufficient and not adequate to allow for the sending of United Nations personnel, then there will be no chance of promoting peace, security and stability in Somalia, because the donors will stay away. There will not be any meaningful assistance for reconstruction and development, and therefore we are caught up in this Vicious circle. I would like to submit to those who are a bit nervous about the safety and security of United Nations personnel - and we agree with them 100 per cent - that we have to strike a balance between the safety and security of a few United Nations personnel, important as their lives are, and the destiny of a whole country.”
2001-10-19 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.4392Resumption1 (2001) · source
“The people who authored those events are the very same people who are still the warlords, who are outside the Arta process. They are the very same people whom we are being urged to engage in dialogue. We would like to, but we would very much like the Council to be aware that what happened in October 1993 was not the doing of the Somali people. It was not the doing of the Transitional National Government or of anyone associated with the Transitional National Government. It was the work of the warlords. They are the ones who are still hampering peace in Somalia. From what I have heard today, people want to hear their ideas. If they had any ideas about peace and reconciliation in this country, they would have been forthcoming some time in the last decade or more.”
2001-10-19 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.4392Resumption1 (2001) · source
“I should very much like to thank the members of the Council and the other representatives, who have been very generous and warm in welcoming me and my delegation to this open debate on Somalia. The very kind words and the ideas on how best to help in bringing about lasting peace in Somalia have been very uplifting. Now we know that just about everyone in the Council is a friend of Somalia, so if all of its members are going to be reconstituted as friends of Somalia, I think that would be most welcome. I should like to address three or four points that really have been central to the discussion. The first one is the issue of the post-conflict peace-building mission. We know that Somalia suffers from what is called the Somali syndrome. It goes back to 1993.”
2001-10-19 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.4392Resumption1 (2001) · source
“I thank the Council very much for affording me this opportunity to brief members on the recent developments in Somalia and to share the ideas of my Government for bringing lasting peace, stability and development to our troubled country.”
2001-10-19 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.4392 (2001) · source
“We believe that it is unconscionable for the international community to wait and watch while we struggle with such meagre resources. Briefly put, Somalia has now moved from the struggle for survival to the struggle for peace. We need the United Nations and its partner aid agencies to reflect this change by planning new initiatives. An operational plan to support good governance and peace-building in Somalia is urgently needed. Peace and security are the key to the agenda of the Transitional National Government (TNG) agenda, and there can be no development without peace and security. This underpins a process by which the people of Somalia would begin the work of putting the country back together. The United Nations and the international community's role are therefore vital for this endeavour.”
2001-10-19 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.4392 (2001) · source
“Members of the Committee must be supportive of peace and stability in Somalia and be willing to play a constructive role and have a genuine interest in building upon Arta and its outcome. Furthermore, during the process of the formation of the Committee, we must take into account the lessons of experience learned with respect to the mechanism of the Committee of Friends, especially in countries like Angola. We must also address the issue of reconstruction, rehabilitation and development concurrently. My Government inherited a country that was in a shambles, as is very well portrayed in the Secretary-General's report, without financial resources and infrastructure. For the past year, my Government has been operating on a budget of only $14 million, despite the daunting challenges.”
2001-10-19 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.4392 (2001) · source
“We propose the dispatch of a high-level inter- agency United Nations mission to Somalia, with a mandate to critically examine the work of the security office in Nairobi and to re-evaluate, in an objective manner, the security situation in Mogadishu and the whole of Somalia. In his report, the Secretary-General expressed his intention to consult all concerned on the feasibility and usefulness of setting up a Committee of Friends of Somalia to focus on ways and means of drawing attention to Somalia's needs in the area of national reconciliation, as well as to help mobilize funds for rehabilitation and development. The Government welcomes the idea of the establishment of this Committee. It must, however, be fully engaged in the consultations necessary for designing the framework within which the Committee would function.”
2001-10-19 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.4392 (2001) · source
“This decision is based on the result of the security assessment carried out by some middle- level field officers stationed in Nairobi. We believe the failure to establish a peace- building mission in Somalia will send the wrong signal to the international community, particularly the regional and subregional organizations, donors and the warlords. This will further contribute to the vicious circle of inadequate security and the perpetuation of the benign neglect to which Somalia has been subjected over a decade. In our view, the establishment of a peace-building mission in Somalia is imperative and critical at this moment.”
2001-10-19 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.4392 (2001) · source
“We thank the Secretary-General and the Secretariat for the support they have extended to the National Transitional Government of Somalia. We have a historical link with the United Nations dating back to the time when part of Somalia was placed under United Nations Trusteeship. We also want to acknowledge the role of the Secretary-General and his continuous interest in my country. We believe that the Secretary- General and the Secretariat are genuinely interested in promoting peace and national reconciliation in Somalia. We wish to thank the Secretary-General for his comprehensive report on the situation in Somalia. However, I would like to highlight some points with respect to this report. We note with regret that the report does not recommend the establishment of a peace-building mission in Somalia.”
2001-10-19 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.4392 (2001) · source
“9) It is with deep regret that I must report that the warlords continue to be a major impediment to the national reconciliation process. They orchestrated and have been held responsible for the kidnapping of humanitarian aid workers. That kidnapping perpetrated by the warlords has been condemned by the United Nations and by the European Union, and has unfortunately caused a setback in the peace process. Moreover, paragraph 8 of the decision on Somalia adopted at the seventy-fourth ordinary session of the Council of Ministers of the OAU strongly condemned the warlords who persist in their stubbornness in blocking the peace efforts in Somalia. The Somali Government welcomes the report of the Secretary-General on the situation in Somalia (S/200l/963).”
2001-10-19 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.4392 (2001) · source
“Given the importance of this independent Commission and the role it can play in bringing about lasting peace and stability in Somalia, the international community is called upon to shoulder its responsibility and provide the resources needed to enable the Commission to carry out its work. In paragraph 9 of the decision on Somalia adopted at the seventy-fourth ordinary session of the Council of Ministers of the OAU, the Council of Ministers "Requests the Secretary-General [of the OAU] to work closely with IGAD, the League of Arab States, the Organization of the Islamic Conference and the wider international community to continue to support the Transitional National Government in its efforts to sustain reconciliation and reconstruction in Somalia." (Ibid., para.”
2001-10-19 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.4392 (2001) · source
“In paragraph 3 of the decision on Somalia adopted at the seventy-fourth ordinary session of the Council of Ministers of the OAU, the Council of Ministers "Reiterates its earlier call to the Transitional National Government (TNG) to intensify its efforts so as to bring about lasting national reconciliation, building upon the outcome of the Arta peace process, and supports the efforts aimed at the establishment of the National Reconciliation Commission". (Ibid., para. 3) Lack of funds and resources has precluded the beginning of the work of the Commission and continues to constitute a major stumbling block.”
2001-10-19 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.4392 (2001) · source
“My Government's policies with regard to the National Reconciliation Commission are consistent with resolutions adopted by the United Nations, the Organization of the Islamic Conference, the OAU, the League of Arab States and the Intergovernmental Authority on Development. The decisions on Somalia that emanated from the seventh-third and seventy- fourth ordinary sessions of the Council of Ministers of the OAU called upon member States and the international community to assist the Government in its endeavours pertaining to national reconciliation.”
2001-10-19 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.4392 (2001) · source
“Intensive negotiations are going on with the remaining factions and with the northern administrative entities "Somaliland" and "Puntland". My Government has recently established the National Reconciliation Commission stipulated by the interim charter. The Commission will be operating independently of the Government and it will be composed of 25 eminent Somali political and other prominent public figures. Its mandate will focus on reconciling all the parties in Somalia, with a View to attaining lasting peace and stability for all Somalis. It is envisaged that the Commission will facilitate the process of the establishment of a federal Government which will reflect the desires of Somali society as a whole.”
2001-10-19 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.4392 (2001) · source
“7) On the question of national reconciliation, the principles upon which that process is built include the following. First, the outcome of the Arta peace process will continue to be the basis for the pursuit of Somali national reconciliation. Secondly, that process will continue to be a Somali process, and the Somali Government will welcome and embrace every positive effort exerted by neighbouring countries and the world community that can facilitate the process. Thirdly, the engagement of those who are outside the Arta peace process through sustained dialogue and negotiations is a crucial component of the national reconciliation endeavour. In the light of those principles, the Somali Government has succeeded in bringing on board two out of the five factions based in Mogadishu which had not supported the Arta conference.”
2001-10-19 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.4392 (2001) · source
“In that context, my Government has, for the first time in 11 years, started collecting taxes in the capital, Mogadishu; this has been supported enthusiastically by the public. The progress made by our Government in the continued pursuit of peace and stability in the country was commended at the seventy-fourth ordinary session of the Council of Ministers of the Organization of African Unity (OAU), which was convened at Lusaka in July 2001. In its decision on Somalia, the Council of Ministers "Expresses satisfaction at the progress made by the Transitional National Government in the establishment of peace and security in the country and requests the OAU and the international community to continue to assist the Government in this regard." (CM/Dec.594 (LXXI V), para.”
2001-10-19 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.4392 (2001) · source
“For our part, and for the purpose of enhancing security, we have been able to put in camps over 25,000 militia members to be trained and reintegrated into society. Moreover, 8,000 policemen drawn from those 25,000 individuals have been deployed in and around Mogadishu. I am happy to report that in the capital city there are neither green lines nor checkpoints run by the warlords. The Somali national army is being re-established to reinforce security and to strengthen peace and stability within the country. Members of the national army will also be instrumental in bringing about the needed security within the framework of the Government's plans related to decentralization and to the devolution of power to the regions.”
2001-10-19 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.4392 (2001) · source
“Hawala owners have pledged to open their records to the United Nations and other interested parties and to share any insightful information with the Somali Government and others. Finally, a joint committee of cabinet members and members of the Somali Parliament has recently been formed to review the penal code and other laws as part of the country's national obligations under Security Council resolution 1373 (2001). For the Government's programmes against terrorism to be effective, it is incumbent upon the international community to provide us with all the assistance needed. That assistance can be in the form of training and the provision of logistics for our security services. Failure to do just that might lead to the creation of a vacuum that could contribute to breeding terrorism.”
2001-10-19 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.4392 (2001) · source
“That resolution sets out the legal framework of the fight against terrorism and the obligations of Member States in that fight. Secondly, the Somali Government has recently established an anti-terrorism task force, which will put together a national security and anti-terrorist action plan. The task force will gather intelligence and information, monitor the activities of potential suspects and share information with the United Nations. Thirdly, the Somali Government has engaged ulma - religious leaders - from all sects and schools in the country with a View to enlisting their support in the fight against terrorism. Fourthly, the Somali Government has also engaged the owners of the money-transfer agencies known as hawala, who have assured us of their commitment to transparency.”
2001-10-19 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.4392 (2001) · source
“The Somali Government has unequivocally expressed its outrage and disgust at the heinous acts of terrorism perpetrated against the Government and the people of the United States. It has expressed its condolences and prayers to the President of the United States and to the families of the bereaved. The Somali Government firmly believes that the international community must be united and strong in the face of this menace. We reiterate our commitment and determination to cooperate with the United Nations, and on a bilateral basis, in the fight against international terrorism. That commitment and determination to combat terrorism are reflected in recent decisions taken by my Government. First of all, we fully support Security Council resolution 1373 (2001).”
2001-10-19 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.4392 (2001) · source
“I want to seize this opportunity to congratulate you, Sir, on your assumption of the presidency of the Security Council. I am confident that, under your wise leadership, the Council will continue to be engaged in promoting the principles of the United Nations Charter. I am delighted to register the profound appreciation of the people and the Government of Somalia at the honour that has been bestowed upon the Secretary-General and the United Nations. Indeed, the award of the Nobel Peace Prize to the Secretary- General is a recognition of his tireless efforts in the search for durable peace in the world. The events of 11 September alerted peoples and Governments all over the world to the danger posed by international terrorism.”
2001-10-19 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.4392 (2001) · source