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“Both stories clearly indicate Western complicity and a conspiracy of silence, at the absolute least. I urge the Security Council and, especially, Western press, to utilize their considerable power and authority to shed some light on the situation and to hold accountable those individuals and organizations and nations that may be responsible for this act of terror.”
2023-07-11 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.9373 (2023) · source
“In conclusion, The West has let these revelations sink into the background. Despite the parlour game about whether or not it was American or Ukrainian divers who actually planted the charges, analysts and officials across the West seem to agree on key facts — that the attacks originated in the West, The BALTOPS exercises were the staging ground for those attacks, and the United States knows a lot more than it is currently sharing. Those facts and their implications need to be seriously understood and addressed by both the Security Council and the world’s press. Western media is not seriously pressing for answers right now, and the distinction between the two versions of the story — “the United States did it” versus “Ukraine did it” — are a distraction. It is a distinction without a difference.”
2023-07-11 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.9373 (2023) · source
“Now I direct my comments to members of the Western press — people at CNN, The Washington Post, The New York Times — major American journals with the resources and the power to investigate the attack and demand responses from American officials. But there have been very few reports actually analysing the situation and seriously weighing the evidence, and very few questions have been asked of the Biden Administration. An article from the New York Times is emblematic of the general attitude of the country. They wrote “a flurry of new findings and competing narratives has sown distrust among Western allies”. Most critically, The New York Times acknowledges that “it may be in no one’s interest to reveal more.” In no one’s interest? Is that serious? They have abdicated their role to hold power accountable.”
2023-07-11 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.9373 (2023) · source
“While the transponder on a ship can be switched off, rendering it invisible to satellites, as long as its engines are running it can be detected by the United States Navy’s little-known and highly secret worldwide Integrated Undersea Surveillance System.” Therefore, it is likely that the United States knows far more about what happened than it is letting on. To recap, the consensus among Western press and officials is that either the United States or Ukraine was involved in the attack — and if Ukraine was involved in the attack, then it surely had the acquiescence of the United States. Everyone here likely knows all this, but given the United States’ power to veto any motion in the Security Council, the situation will likely not change anytime soon. So, what will change that?”
2023-07-11 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.9373 (2023) · source
“He says: “United States intelligence constantly monitors Russia and other countries in near-real time from beneath the seas, including from under the Baltic, where arrays of acoustic sensors tethered to the seafloor would certainly have been able to pinpoint the exact time and location of these massive undersea explosions.” He goes on to say: “Even more important, by analysing the distinct engine sounds of the ships, submarines and unmanned underwater vehicles passing above, in the days surrounding the sabotage, United States intelligence would have likely been able to “fingerprint” them and determine their nationality and exact identity.”
2023-07-11 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.9373 (2023) · source
“According to numerous media reports in the Western press, Dutch intelligence agencies passed on information about a potential Ukrainian attack to the American Central Intelligence Agency, which then warned Germany about a potential attack. Therefore, according to mainstream sources in the West, the United States had some degree of advanced knowledge of the attacks. One thorough investigation comes from journalist James Bamford, who reported that the United States is almost certain to know more about the attack than it is letting on, whether it or the Ukrainians committed the attack. It is worth quoting some excerpts from his report.”
2023-07-11 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.9373 (2023) · source
“However, some investigators are still sceptical of the role it may have played. However, much like the United States, Ukraine has ample reason to want the pipeline gone. In 2021, Ukrainian and Polish ministers published an article in Politico, entitled “Nord Stream 2 has damaged the West enough. Time to put an end to it.” Corroboration for that story came from the Washington Post, which published an addition to the ongoing Discord Leaks story. According to United States intelligence intercepts of high-level Ukrainian communications, Zelenskyy has been advocating making bolder moves against Russia, including attacks on pipelines. We also learned that the United States was training Ukrainians in undersea operations similar to the one that must have been carried out against Nord Stream 2.”
2023-07-11 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.9373 (2023) · source
“The White House, for their part, called Hersh’s story completely and utterly false, but given the interests of the United States in those pipeline explosions, those denials carry no information. There has been information collected by researchers, including Swedish scholar Ola Tunander, which appear to corroborate elements of Hersh’s story, however, to my knowledge, those leads have yet to be seriously looked into by western investigators. After Hersh’s article was published, a new story emerged in both the United States and European press, alleging that a “pro-Ukrainian group” was behind the attack. Those reports, citing information ostensibly gathered in the ongoing German investigation, alleges that a small boat, the Andromeda, was a key part of the plot to bomb the pipelines.”
2023-07-11 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.9373 (2023) · source
“The story alleged that the pipeline was attacked on orders from Joe Biden and his National Security Council, originating from plans that predated the war. The story goes that United States Navy divers used the NATO BALTOPS exercises in June 2022 as cover to lay explosives on the pipeline that were detonated three months later, in September. Analysts within the open-source intelligence community have pushed back, citing differences between some of the vessels involved in Hersh’s story and what is available in the open-source intelligence community, but Hersh has responded to that criticism by pointing out that covert operations would likely not leave a trail that is searchable by the public.”
2023-07-11 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.9373 (2023) · source
“Under-Secretary of State Victoria Nuland told the press: “If Russia invades Ukraine, one way or another, Nord Stream 2 will not go forward”. In February, President Biden told reporters, “If Russia invades, there will be no longer a Nord Stream 2; we will bring an end to it. I promise you, we will be able to do that.” And after the attack, both Blinken and Nuland celebrated the destruction of the pipelines, calling it a tremendous opportunity. On 8 February, veteran American journalist Seymour Hersh published a major article, hosted on his Substack, about who was responsible for the attacks. The story was based on anonymous sources with knowledge of the operation, one of whom was willing to go on the record.”
2023-07-11 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.9373 (2023) · source
“More relevant to today’s discussion, the study included a recommendation to reduce Russian natural gas exports and hinder pipeline expansions. The study noted that “a first step would involve stopping Nord Stream 2,” and that natural gas from the United States and Australia could provide a substitute. I should note that now, if one looks at the study online, it has a warning that it is being misused by pro- Russian propagandists, however I believe the words of the study speak for themselves, as do the words and actions of United States officials. I recall that, at the start of the Biden Administration, United States Secretary of State Antony Blinken told Congress he was determined to do whatever he could to prevent Nord Stream 2 from being completed.”
2023-07-11 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.9373 (2023) · source
“We see that in a 2019 study by the RAND Corporation. The study was looking at ways to overextend and unbalance Russia. Specifically, it looked at how best to exploit “Russia’s economic, political and military vulnerabilities and anxieties”. The RAND study also prophetically recommended that the United States start “providing more United States military equipment and advice” to Ukraine in order to “lead Russia to increase its direct involvement in the conflict and the price it pays for it”. At the same time, the study acknowledged that “Russia might respond by mounting a new offensive and seizing more Ukrainian territory.” We now know how that went, so clearly this is an important piece of literature with respect to understanding what is going on over there.”
2023-07-11 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.9373 (2023) · source
“As we shall see, the circumstantial case for United States complicity in the attacks is far stronger than the case for Russia. It has long been a United States and NATO strategy to prevent the integration between Western Europe and Russia. That was clear in the early post-war days. NATO’s first Secretary General, Lord Hastings Ismay, made it clear that NATO’s role as an organization was to “keep the Russians out, the Americans in and the Germans down”. That has not really changed over the past 80 years. Since the announcement of the second Nord Stream project, three successive United States Administrations have done their utmost to stop the pipeline. The Obama, Trump and Biden Administrations all opposed it. Even people who plan out the global strategy for the military have taken those things into account.”
2023-07-11 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.9373 (2023) · source
“For one, gas flows from Russia were a major point of leverage over Europe with respect to their support for Ukraine. Removing that leverage would severely harm — and has severely harmed — Russian strategic interests on that front. Also, Russia had already made statements urging Germany, then suffering from high energy prices, to end the sanctions against the Nord Stream pipeline, saying that both lines could be opened. Importantly, we know now that the leading investigator, from Sweden, told the press, “Do I think it was Russia that blew up Nord Stream? I never thought so. It is not logical.” The other problem with immediately blaming Russia was that another immediately apparent culprit, the United States, was almost completely ignored as a potential suspect. Why is that?”
2023-07-11 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.9373 (2023) · source
“Seismology reports indicated clearly that this was the result of deliberate sabotage and not an accident. For Western officials, experts and the press, the culprit was clear: Russia. Numerous articles and government officials immediately pointed the finger at Russia. What was their explanation as to why Russia would blow up its own pipeline? Well, even the New York Times acknowledged that “it is unclear why Moscow would seek to damage installations that cost Gazprom billions of dollars to build and maintain”. But the press quickly fell into line with the motive that the attacks were just “a reminder from Moscow”. According to Western officials, experts and media, Russia attacked themselves to intimidate the West. Now there are all sorts of problems with blaming Russia.”
2023-07-11 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.9373 (2023) · source
“Mr. Greene: My name is Bryce Greene, and I am an organizer, a graduate student and a freelance media critic. My work has been published by Fairness and Accuracy in Reporting and has been republished in other outlets, including Salon and the Monthly Review Online. I am also a United States citizen, and thus I bear the responsibility for the actions of my own Government to the extent that I have the ability to influence them. But I appear here before the Security Council on my own behalf and represent no Government or organization. It is media criticism work and studying the Ukraine war in general that brought me to investigate the Nord Stream attack and the international response to it. For a brief background, beginning around midnight on 26 September 2022, a series of leaks were detected along the route of the Nord Stream pipelines.”
2023-07-11 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.9373 (2023) · source