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Lukabu Khabouji N'zaji

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  1. This is the first time I have ever heard that one. I shall report accordingly to my Government and we shall draw the necessary conclusion.

    1993-01-29 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.3168 (1993) · source

  2. I did not want to take so much of the Council's time, but I am sorry that the Angolan Government is unable to express the slightest regret over the killing of innocent people, and yet the representative of Angola lectures me on yesterday's events in Kinshasa, which he has mentioned. Perhaps he is right, but I repeat that those are uncontrollable elements. When I have the information, I shall go to see the Ambassador and I shall tell him what happened. We used extracts from the press, which we had a right to do, because we wanted to quote an independent source, and this is what drove Luanda up the wall. You have incited the populace. The representative said clearly in his statement that there are acts committed by the populace for which the Government is not responsible. What an admission of irresponsibility for a Government!

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  3. In my first statement, I said that in Angola you should be above this. Intolerance should be left behind. UNITA is not a Zairian creation; it is and will remain an Angolan creation. Peace in Angola will have to be made with UNITA for national reconciliation; Zaire is not going to come and make peace in Angola. The representative of Angola mentioned the arrest of four Zairian soldiers. As I have said, we have a porous border. How many drunken Angolan soldiers have we arrested in Songololo and in Kamba? They are drunk, and we send them back to the regular Angolan army. Zaire has never brought them up in the Security Council as mercenaries come to stir up trouble in my country.

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  4. As far as I know, the Angolan embassy is in Trente Juin Boulevard, at the intersection of Batetel Avenue, and the bulk of the disorder in Kinshasa has taken place in the commercial centre, exactly where the French embassy is located. Allow me to tell the Ambassador that I thought, when he asked to make a second statement, that he would at least ~- and I stress this point ~- have been Sure to express some regret for the summary executions of some of my countrymen who live in Angola, participate in the reconstruction of Angola and take part in the economic and cultural life of Angola. I am thinking now of that well-known song that goes, "He called me 'brother' and he shot me in the back". There is a proverb in my country that says, "When you fight with your wife in your own house, don't blame your neighbour".

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  5. It is irresponsible and the statement we have just heard from the Permanent Representative of Angola is illuminating. The Permanent Representative of Angola said that the Government of Angola has nothing to do with the killings. Who is keeping order in Angola? The Ambassador of Angola mentioned the situation in my country as of yesterday. I mentioned it, I am not ashamed of it, and I have nothing to hide. I expressed my condolences to the French delegation. Those who shoot are uncontrollable elements within our own army. The organized part of the army is trying to restore order. The army did not attack the Angolan embassy.

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  6. Mr. LUKABU KHABOUJI N'ZAJI (Zaire) (interpretation from French): My delegation believed that with the explanation that was given, the Angolan delegation - which I have reminded on several occasions of the fact that we have bilateral mechanisms for settling our differences - was going to draw the lesson of this appeal and avoid poisioning the debate and keeping the Council here unnecessarily. I believe that, like the Angolan delegation, the most important question that compelled my delegation to make a statement is that of obtaining from the Security Council a renewal of the mandate of the United Nations Angola Verification Mission (UNAVEM II). The accusation of interference in the internal affairs of Angola ~ I have said this before and I say it again - is irresponsible.

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  7. We have an observer mission to which we have recourse whenever there is a violation of the border. We ask it to investigate and report to the OAU, which then draws its conclusions. I do not see why anybody should come here with such serious charges against a fraternal country, charges that have no basis. I wish to repeat to my brother, the Minister of External Relations of Angola, that Angola will always find Zaire at its side, helping rebuild that country and overcome its difficulties, notwithstanding our own.

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  8. It must be acknowledged that there is in Angola an old Zairian "colony" resulting from the war of secession between Katanga and the central Government of Congo. Those former military personnel were used by the MPLA and by UNITA to fight colonialism. They found themselves unemployed. Then they were given employment once again, and twice they fought against Zaire - in 1977 and 1978. They returned to the border and crossed it, and now they are in Angola. We know who they are. The Minister of External Relations said that the UNITA bases are in Djamba. The people I have mentioned come from there. They crossed the frontier near Dilolo and Mutshasha to attack Kolwezi. We did not bring these disputes to the Security Council. The Organization of African Unity (OAU) has created a framework for Zaire and Angola to settle their differences.

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  9. I do not think I need raise certain matters that bring unhappy memories to some people. Zaire shared the little it had. Its labour market was open to Angolans, as were its schools and universities. In Zaire today it is impossible for anyone to tell a Zairian from an Angolan. We cannot understand the hatred unleashed against that fraternal population, who took no part in the armed conflict between two movements. It must be said that the reason is intolerance. My Government has already said that it rejects Luanda's unfounded accusations against Zaire. The Minister of External Relations of Angola made certain assertions this morning. As for the aeroplanes and registration numbers, one could go to the international aviation authorities to discover their origin. The registration numbers are not Zairian.

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  10. "The next day, a semblance of order was re-established, but the trouble did not end. Kinshasa diplomats who tried to intercede with the leaders of the police and with the Foreign Ministry were sent packing. They were refused entry to the morgue at the Boavista Hospital. It was thanks to the help of hospital personnel and the evidence of a number of families that they were finally able to list 62 bodies. That is the only figure that it has been possible to confirm, but there is every reason to fear a much greater total." I hope that the Council will forgive me for having troubled it with that extract from Le Monde. It will understand the gravity of the situation causing my country concern. Zaire took part, and even made great sacrifices, in Angola's war of independence.

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  11. Everywhere there were the same reports of looting, killing and rape. "Since the beginning of the week, the press and radio have daily condemned the alleged intervention of Zairian troops in support of Mr. Savimbi's rebellion. The Minister of the Interior warned about the infiltration of commandos ordered to 'promote acts of sabotage and assassinations'. That was seen by the rioters as an official green light. In fact, the police scarcely raised a hand while armed groups broke into the homes of 'Zairians' to loot everything there. The first victims fell resisting the aggressors, followed by those trying to escape. A Belgian and a Portuguese were killed in identical circumstances, but it has not been possible to establish a clear link with the anti-Zairian climate of violence.

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  12. This repugnant manhunt took place under the complaisant eyes of the police and even at times with their participation. Dozens of people were killed and countless numbers were wounded. "Everybody knew what was going on. Several Western embassies even advised their nationals to avoid the areas where the killing had taken place. On Monday, when calm had returned, there was a torrent of eyewitness accounts from those who had escaped and had remained in hiding until then, They all said the same: the violence began on Friday morning, almost simultaneously, in the areas of Palanca, Rocha--Pinto, Samba, Petrangol, Hoje-Henda, Mabord, Kikolo and Viana, areas where the large Zairian community in the capital-is concentrated. The violence rapidly spread to the markets, where Zairians trade.

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  13. ' What I am about to read out is not from a Zairian source, but from an independent source. I wish to read out an extract from an article by a correspondent of the French newspaper Le Monde, Mr. Georges Marion. The article appeared on Thursday, 28 January this year, on page 3 of the newspaper under the heading "Zairian's hunted in Luanda". Mr. Marion wrote: "For three days and three nights, from 22 to 24 January, the capital of Angola was the scene of a veritable pogrom against Zairians in Luanda and against Angolans from provinces bordering on Zaire. When festivities began, celebrating the foundation of Luanda by the Portuguese at the end of the sixteenth century, civilians armed with machetes or AK-47 (Kalashnikov) assault rifles, looted hundreds of houses, killing or beating the occupants and raping their wives.

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  14. In 1992 elections took place. There was some killing at the time. However, Zaire did not then bring this matter to the Security Council for consideration. Zaire is well aware of what it can do to settle such matters with Angola. We have a Joint Commission, which makes it possible for us to pursue dialogue. Along our long border we have all types of problems relating to cross-boundary border violations and theft, and such matters are usually settled daily. But this time, when UNITA took up arms to contest the results of elections in which it had taken part, the Angolan Government, through daily propaganda in the local press, incited Angolan civilians and the army to kill peaceful Zairians living in Angola. Small businessmen lost their lives and property.

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  15. While the army at one point had been equipped with military-troop transport planes, we do not have any left. We do not have enough military trucks to maintain internal order in the country. I cannot imagine the authorities of Zaire venturing to interfere in the internal affairs of Angola, whereas in our own country tragic events are occurring. The reason why I have raised this matter today is because in the letter of President dos Santos and iu the statement made this morning by the Minister of External Relations - the country's highest officials - there was no reference to the innocent victims in Angola - victims of summary execution, victims of hatred, the hatred of a community that has shared its joys and sorrows, a community that is contributing to the building of Angola. These victims to whom I have referred are from Zaire.

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  16. It often happens that an Angolan village might be celebrating a wedding in our country, just as a village in Zaire might cross the border and celebrate a wedding in Angola. The letter addressed to the Security Council by His Excellency President dos Santos, describes the matter of interference in the internal affairs of Angola. It refers to several soldiers from Zaire who were killed in recent events that had taken place in Angola. This morning, the Minister of External Relations of Angola referred specifically to my country, which was reportedly involved in the battle between the MPLA and UNITA. Present-day Zaire - and I would stress the words present-day - would not dare to interfere in the internal affairs of Angola. Let me tell you why. My country is experiencing a catastrophic economic situation.

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  17. At least we are encouraged by reports from Addis Ababa, where representatives of MPLA and UNITA hava agreed to sit down and talk. We encourage them to go even further and to think of their country's national interest. I should like now to take up the second subject that I mentioned - outside interference in the internal affairs of Angola. It is not easy for my delegation to speak about interference in the internal affairs of Angola. Zaire and Angola have a common border of over 2,650 kilometres, which is a most porous boundary. Neither Angola nor Zaire have the means to ensure control over this very long boundary. Things are becoming complicated, and I should like to note this historical point: people living on both sides of the border speak the same language, practise the same religion and are part of the same culture.

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  18. My delegation could have confined itself to this expression of support to the delegation of Angola, which has come here to ask the international community to help it to organize a second round of elections. However, this second round seems ever more remote, owing to the intolerance that is now widespread as a result of the refusal of one of the parties to respect agreements freely entered into. Zaire has spared no effort to convince both parties - MPLA, the party in power, and UNITA - to become reconciled. No one can forget when President dos Santos and Mr. Savimbi shook hands in a most distinguished setting, comprising African Presidents, who had been invited to my country for that special occasion. But, with the Bicesse Accords, we felt that Angola would be able to put behind it the crisis imposed on it by history.

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  19. This meeting of the Security Council, at the request of the Republic of Angola, which is also to renew the mandate of UNAVEM II and to deal with the outside interference in the internal affairs of Angola, is providing my delegation with an opportunity te shed some light, particularly on the latter subject. However, I should like at the outset to indicate to the Council that Zaire welcomes the decision the Council will soon be taking to renew the mandate of UNAVEM II. Zaire hopes that this effort by the international community will be continued and that it will enable Angola ~- a friendly and fraternal country - to continue on the path of establishing democratic institutions.

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  20. Mr. LUKABU KHABOUJI N'ZAJI (Zaire) (interpretation from French): Like all those who have spoken before me, I should like to extend to you, Sir, the congratulations of the delegation of Zaire on the very effective and professional manner in which you have been discharging your weighty responsibilities as President of the Security Council for January 1993. As I am addressing the Council in painful circumstances, I must now, on behalf of the delegation of Zaire, extend condolences to the French Government, the people of France and the family of Mr. Bernard, Ambassador Extraordinary and Plenipotentiary of France to Zaire, who died tragically yesterday in Kinshasa.

    1993-01-29 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.3168 (1993) · source