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Nangaa Yobeluo

lines on the record: 31
first: 2019-01-11
most recent: 2019-01-11
sittings or episodes: 1
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“We will, of course, forward to the courts the evidence at our disposal that led us to whatever the results are. As we have said, we will provide those results to the Constitutional Court, especially since the law does not stipulate that we must give them to the Conference episcopale nationale du Congo or other organizations. Those results will be presented to the Constitutional Court if they are disputed. That is how that works.”
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“The district sends the voting records and result sheets to the central level via the local compilation centres. In this case, since we are interested in the presidential election, the corresponding constituency is national territory. The results therefore are not posted in a specific territory or district. The posting or publication of the results of the presidential election is done at the national level, which is what we mean by national consolidation, because the constituency is the national territory. That said, the results that were posted at the polling stations are what we have. Some are sent to the various courts and others to the Commission electorale nationale independante. They say that people will challenge the results.”
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“It should be noted that the elections took place at 72,000 polling stations. Each polling station opened in the morning, at 6 a.m., and closed 11 hours later, at 5 pm. Once the voting was closed, the polling stations turned into counting stations. The manual counting was carried out and other results were also available because of the voting machines. After the counting, the law requires that the results be posted. That is the first level of publishing the results. Each polling station was able to post the results. But we must be careful, because when we publish the results in the Democratic Republic of the Congo, if a candidate senses that they are not good enough, his or partisans may often tear up the posted sheets. Those results, however, are the voting records.”
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“The Election Commission will remain at the disposal of the Conference episcopale nationale du Congo for further exchanges on anything that may arise, in the understanding that, in our opinion, the priority should be to move forward and turn the page. The population is suffering. We have been in the midst of political discussions for two, three, even four years. There is a time for everything - a time for elections, but also a time for development. These are the clarifications I wanted to make at this stage, in the hope that we will inch closer to an end with the final reports that we will present in March, if necessary.”
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“We are, of course, already beginning to prepare accordingly, in the hope that the efforts led by the Congolese Government, with the support of its partners, with respect to the Ebola virus disease will bear fruit, and that the formation of the new Government will also lead to stability and security in the region. For the North Kivu province, the provincial assembly will therefore be established only after the North Kivu elections because the related indirect elections - those for governor and senators - will be held only after those elections. That is what we meant when we said that we are not perfect. No election in the world is perfect, but I will remain at the disposal of organizations that have something to say.”
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“As has been said, these elections are historic, so let us not make the Congolese people miss what they have been waiting for so long. We now find ourselves within 10 days of proceeding with the establishment of the new institutions, such as the swearing-in of the new President-elect, if the Constitutional Court confirms the results, and the installation of the new National Assembly and the new provincial assemblies, which will ultimately lead to the holding of indirect elections - those for the members of the Senate, as well as governors and vice-governors. However, for the province of North Kivu specifically, I note that we have scheduled those elections for March.”
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“I cannot make a commitment to exceed what is provided by law and put myself at the disposition of some other body or organization that questions what went on and calls on us tojustify ourselves. No. We will abide by the law and we hope that others will do the same. We will see what the Constitutional Court does about the presidential and legislative elections, and what the various courts of appeal do about the provincial elections. Three elections in one day in a country like ours was no easy feat. We slept only two or three hours a day for a month. Given that we held three elections in one day and managed to achieve what we have - that is, the Congolese people voted and we are now enjoying calm in the country - my advice is that we must not poke the bear or seek justifications to be bogged down in the perpetual beginning of negotiations.”
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“The Democratic Republic of the Congo is a vast country, and everything was stacked against us getting to where we are today. One cannot clean house overnight given everything that was done by the different parties, or continue to act as if we can just keep starting over every day. The Commission has published its results. It cannot be said that the elections were perfect. Even in the United States, we have learned that in the last elections certain things happened. Is that a reason to challenge the entire process? No. At every stage, it must be said, there are always protests, probably legitimate ones. We will duly answer to the competent authorities and will continue to monitor the situation. That is all we will do.”
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“But all such considerations are under the jurisdiction of the Court, and in the meantime it would be a violation of the law for me to claim to be in a position to present any clarification or certification to any authority other than the Court. That would not be allowed under Congolese law. Moreover, what is essential is that dialogue should continue, and that whoever wins, whatever the outcome of the elections, the people of the Democratic Republic of the Congo speak to each other, talk to each other. They need to look at each other and say "OK, this is the situation we are in. What do we do now?" But my advice, not as a representative of the Commission but as a Congolese, would be to say, look, the elections were organized in difficult circumstances against impossible odds.”
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“If a clarification or some other response is called for, the Commission will answer only to those authorities. If called upon by the Courts to provide information, the Commission will provide information regarding its activities. Again, regarding the Constitutional Court, there will be two options: either to declare the results of the Electoral Commission as valid - in which case we will put this cycle of elections behind us and await the next one in five years - or else to declare the results as invalid, in which case the elections will be annulled and the electoral process restarted - or some may even protest that.”
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“In the interim, it has to be recognized that the Electoral Commission has announced the preliminary results of the elections and the country is calm, which shows that the people have accepted the outcome. If that were not the case, Kinshasa would already be in flames and there would be blood on the streets. The country is calm in the aftermath of the elections, and all the pressure everyone was feeling is for the most part behind us. Meanwhile, in conformity with the law, the Electoral Commission has just published the preliminary results. I must stress that they are provisional results. The law provides that, after the publication of the preliminary results, those who do not agree with them may address themselves to the relevant authorities. And we are prepared for that.”
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“Accordingly, the Electoral Commission announced the provisional results in conformity with that legal framework. Secondly, the Electoral Commission has of course taken note that the elections, as I mentioned in my introduction, have aroused much passion so that, for some people, as long as a certain candidate does not win it will never be right. As I also indicated in my introduction, the process was conducted over three years, and at every stage there were requests and demands that we clarify this or we do that. All of that reflects the distrust among all the stakeholders. I was fully expecting that, when the results were announced, some people would say they did not agree and some people that they did agree, but that is democracy.”
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“I would like to thank the Security Council once again for giving me this opportunity to clarify a number of issues. I would also like to thank the President of the Conference episcopale nationale du Congo for providing certain details drawn from their own observation mission, while noting at the same time that the law provides that the mission should present its report to the Commission electorale nationale independante, which has not yet received any such report; we have learned about it only from the media. In the meantime, I would like to clarify three points. First, the elections in the Democratic Republic of the Congo were organized in conformity with the legal framework as defined by the Constitution, laws and relevant electoral provisions.”
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“The relationship was decisive in the planning stages, the concept and design of certain processes and for our reporting. We would also like to thank other actors and stakeholders, including the political parties, who participated in the process. The Congolese voiced their views. Today we have a President-elect. We hope that the process will continue until he is officially sworn in as President. I also wish to draw the attention of members to the fact that there is controversy. There are only two options for addressing it: either confirm the result of the Commission or cancel the election. Cancelling the election would mean that current institutions would remain in place because we will not have a President until new elections are organized.”
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“Why should one try to weaken them when they have not even taken their first steps yet? Yes, there may be challenges from various quarters. We believe that the competent courts will take care of the rest. We expect to submit the final reports of the process, which will lead us, more or less, to the first peaceful and civilized handover of power in the Democratic Republic of the Congo. It would be remiss of me to conclude without thanking the United Nations. Some believed that the Commission received only logistical support for the process. That is not true. We wish to thank the United Nations for its ongoing technical assistance to the Commission. More than 150 international experts work alongside us in the same building. Only badges distinguish a Commission employee from a United Nations employee.”
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“A large number of them - 32 agents of the Commission - perished during this process. We pay tribute to them by noting that we have achieved what we sought to achieve, what the Congolese people have been awaiting all this time. That is briefly what I wanted to note. I will conclude by stating that the Commission worked under difficult conditions with constant challenges, whether the controversies were fabricated not. However, regardless of the difficulties encountered, it has done what it was able to do. We also say that we were not perfect. The Commission, through me, asks for indulgence for every time we made a mistake. However, the essential thing is that the results are within reach today and that it is time, with the beginning of this new mandate, for the new authorities to be supported by the international community as always.”
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“The first four Presidents succeeded one another without ever engaging with one another - either through coups or assassinations. We will have the first peaceful handover of power in the weeks to come, of course after having processed all the documents and dossiers pertaining to the provisional results. The Commission stands ready; its team has already been put together to manage the challenges. In conclusion, what shouldI say? You, Mr. President, invited me to take part in this meeting. In about 30 minutes after my statement, we will proclaim the provisional results of the national legislative elections. This is an election conducted under circumstances of which we are all aware. However, to general surprise, the elections were well organized. In that regard, we wish to pay tribute to the Commission's representatives.”
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“Indeed, he did not run as a candidate, which reflects the fact that we had 21 candidates other than him. That is a victory that has been achieved. The third objective is that we have achieved a handover of power at the highest level of the State. This handover of power is all the more important for the Democratic Republic of the Congo, as for the first time in the 60 years of its post-independence existence, we will experience in the weeks to come a handover of power between an outgoing Head of State and an incoming Head of State. For the very first time, we will see how, as is done in other countries, the two Heads of State greet one another. Indeed, over the course of 60 years we have had four Presidents: President Kasavubu, President Mobutu, President Laurent-Desire Kabila and President Joseph Kabila.”
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“The Constitution of the Democratic Republic of the Congo was not changed. That was a victory for the opposition, the majority and civil society. It was a victory for the opposition because it more or less demonstrated that we are in a country where there is an opposition that does not allow the authorities to do whatever they want. It was a victory for the majority and those in power because, by not changing the Constitution, they could also consider making a forced transition, but they did not do so. It was a victory for civil society, which has always sought to defend the Constitution, because that objective was achieved. The second objective, which I underscored for the Congolese people, is that the Congolese people did not want there to be a third term for the Head of State, the outgoing President of the Republic.”
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“Those are serious issues, and I challenge anybody who may claim that they have collected all of the records. For the Commission itselfto do so, it would have taken nearly a week. These are serious issues. Having said that, we announced the results in accordance with the law. I believe that the Commission is of the view that it has done itsjob. Ifthere is a dispute, the law provides for verification mechanisms and other mechanisms, and I think that there are competent courts to do that. Nevertheless, we would like to make it clear to the Security Council that we seem to be losing sight of the objectives that were the reason for this process. I believe that there are three main objectives. The first objective is that the people of the Democratic Republic of the Congo did not want their Constitution to be changed.”
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“Of course, in addition, there are more than 6,000 other observers who are considered permanent or long- term observers, and therefore we have approximately 20,000 to 23,000 observers. I do not know where the 40,000 observers come from. On that issue, there is a fundamental question. Observation missions are organized and managed by the law. The observers are not tasked with compiling data. I do not know where the CENCO results are from. The observers are not qualified to obtain, at the polling station level, the various reports and cards, which are rather issued to witnesses of the political parties. Should I take that to mean that the CENCO observation mission conducted itself as a witness of the political parties? I would be interested to know which party it favoured.”
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“We have here a list of all the organizations and the witnesses of the political parties who participated in the monitoring of the elections. We tend to think that it was just the Catholic Church that observed. No, dozens of organizations did so as well. I have heard that 40,000 CENCO observers were deployed. That is very serious. The observation was deployed on the basis of the accreditation of the Commission electorale nationale independante. Accreditation statistics for CENCO have never reached the figures that are put forward. We have 17,000 observers accredited by the Commission. We are told that, apart from the accredited observers, there were others who were not accredited by the Commission.”
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“We addressed that correspondence to the President of the Conference episcopale nationale du Congo (CENCO) by clearly identifying the articles of the Constitution, the various laws and other texts that were systematically violated by the early announcements of the trends in the results. What is worse is that we went so far as to say that they knew the name of the person who would have won, which was surprising. We drew CENCO's attention to the fact that this trend and this issue being managed in this way obliged the stakeholders to refrain from commenting on publications and trends in election results and that they would be responsible for what would happen in that regard. Why are we saying that? There are many elements that we would like to make available to the Security Council.”
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“That is no surprise. It is what we expected for well-known reasons. Of course, when elections are held, there are many stakeholders and everything must be done in accordance with the law. Far be it from us to announce from this forum that the election was organized flawlessly. It is a human undertaking that was organized against the backdrop of well-known challenges, but the key point is that what is important has been safeguarded. We are in our third election cycle and the elections have taken place. In a letter dated 4 January, we protested against the unlawful announcement of election results by persons and bodies legally incompetent to do so.”
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“Whereas in the past there were casualties, the election on 30 December went well and everything proceeded rather smoothly. After the elections it was necessary to move on to the post-electoral phase, which consists of two important elements. The first is, of course, the collection and processing of data for the announcement of provisional results, in accordance with the law. That is what the Electoral Commission has been working on, and two days ago it was able to announce the provisional results of the elections. Of course, we must not be under any illusions - something that was also said even before the elections. We were indeed anticipating reactions, starting with the Catholic Church. It should be noted that the Catholic Church challenged the results in 2006 and 2011, and it is now challenging the result of the 2018 election.”
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“I hold the Security Council somewhat accountable because, from the perspective of the Electoral Commission, these unhelpful discussions have been supported, and even created, by the international community. For obvious reasons, the voting machines had no problems and events proved us right, but the fact that this matter was escalated to the international level is a little embarrassing and creates a very complicated situation. The election took place, and before giving the Commission's analysis, it is very clear that on Sunday, 30 December, when many were predicting chaos, saying that we would not be able to vote with the voting machines and that elections would not be possible, the elections were held. Everyone was able to vote and today, unlike in 2006 and 2011, the election took place on 30 December in an atmosphere of peace.”
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“In order to facilitate successful elections, the Commission electorale nationale independante introduced technology in the form of what are known as voting machines. Even those machines have been the object of a year of bickering - saying no to the voting machine, we do not want it, it is for cheating, it is for this or that purpose. Regrettably, some candidates, even a week before the elections, were still telling their supporters not to use the voting machines. The elections nevertheless took place, and that is what is important. It was held on 30 December, and even the critics who did not want voting machines now welcome the holding of the elections.”
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“The Electoral Commission believed that the audit conducted at its request would help to build confidence. Unfortunately, the audit cast more doubt than expected. Thereafter, we were able to adopt all the laws required to conduct the process. Unfortunately, all the laws that were adopted have been challenged. We have assembled the electorate and even the candidates, and we carry out our functions in accordance with the mission entrusted to us by the Constitution. Some of the Electoral Commission's decisions have been challenged, and some consider themselves to be the experts instead of the Commission for one reason or another. We registered 21 candidates for the presidential election. We also registered approximately 15,358 candidates for national elections and 19,640 candidates for provincial elections.”
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“With regard to the registration of voters on the electoral rolls, everything was called into question. Of all the decisions taken by Electoral Commission, there is not one that is not challenged by this or that group or stakeholder, including the international community, which, at times, surprises us with positions entirely divorced from reality, when in fact they are partners with whom we work day and night. As for voter registration, we conducted seven rounds and, thank God, have ended up with 40 million registered voters. Since then, even the 40 million voters have been challenged because some believe that we are overstating or understating the number of voters, or that we have somehow made a mistake. The electoral register was audited by the International Organization of la Francophonie.”
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“As such, some would have thought it not humanly possible for me to now be able to share positive results. The reason for that is that the process is rife with constraints and, above all, mistrust. There is total mistrust among the actors themselves, among the politicians and with regard to the electoral process itself, as well as between the Government and other actors, such as the international community, and even sometimes towards me, the President of the Commission electorale nationale independante. Since I became President, not a day goes by without someone demanding that President Nangaa resign. This environment made it very difficult for us to carry out our work. Nevertheless, some of the obstacles could have been avoided because they were rooted in mistrust, innuendo, suspicions and other factors.”
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“The Democratic Republic of the Congo just held its presidential, legislative and provincial elections on Sunday, 30 December 2018, in accordance with national legislation, specifically the country's Constitution and the organic law on the organization of the operations of the Commission electorale nationale independante, as well as the general law. Of course, that architecture is complemented by other laws and regulations pertaining to the organization of elections. Before I proceed with my statement, I would like to inform the Security Council that, three years after I was appointed President of the Commission electorale nationale independante, we have now reached what could be considered the culmination of our work. I would note that the process was fraught with numerous difficulties.”
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