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Pohlmann

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first: 2023-09-26
most recent: 2023-09-26
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“The Conservative Helmut Kohl became the new Chancellor of Germany without an election by an allegedly United States’ assisted vote of no confidence in Germany in the Parliament. Lately, when it comes to Russian gas, the United States has no allies but only hostages. On top of that, some hostages suffer from Stockholm syndrome, such as the current Swedish and German Governments.”
2023-09-26 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.9424 (2023) · source
“The former Secretary of the Air Force Thomas Reed told me in an interview how he witnessed, as member of the United States National Security Council, the message that a 3-kiloton burst was recorded in the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, and a CIA official told them that the biggest conventional explosion ever was the result of a CIA operation, not a nuclear warhead of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. It was just one of a string of operations against the Yamal-Europe pipeline. When the former Social Democratic German Chancellor Helmut Schmidt insisted on the gas pipeline deal in the early 1980s to secure cheap Soviet gas for Europe, although former United States President Reagan told him to stop the contract in a one-on-one meeting, with Schmidt looking out the window while Reagan spoke to him, it meant he fell from grace.”
2023-09-26 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.9424 (2023) · source
“In a memo to the CIA, the United States mineral oil industry called him “an even greater villain than the Soviet Union” when he arranged what was then the biggest business deal in Italy with the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics — a barter agreement to build pipelines to Italy for Soviet oil. In 1997, it was proven that the crash was not due to bad weather, as previously thought, as there were metal splinters found in his exhumed bones — the effect of a bomb in the jet. In 1982, the CIA destroyed the Yamal pipeline with malfunctioning chips infiltrated into the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics in an elaborate intelligence operation.”
2023-09-26 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.9424 (2023) · source
“A German television crew filming a 30-minute report with the allegedly used Andromeda sailing yacht with an ominous soundtrack should have recorded the sound of the Andromeda’s motor and propeller, which were allegedly used at the sabotage site. The motor must have been used to keep the ship’s position. The crew should then have asked the NATO navies to check whether Andromeda was there at the right time at the site of the explosion. I would also like to remark that Soviet pipelines have been a source for Western intelligence operations before. Enrico Mattei, the most successful Italian oil manager and head of Eni, was killed when his private jet crashed in 1962. He was hated by the United States mineral oil industry for his immense business success in North African countries.”
2023-09-26 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.9424 (2023) · source
“Braun said that, for further details of his analysis, he refers to his recent presentations and his report, which was already forwarded to the Swiss Government and its representation to the United Nations Security Council on 4 January 2023. Mr. Braun has offered to present his in-depth analysis in detail to the Security Council and offers again to do so through me. I now wish to make some remarks of my own. The Baltic seabed is packed with hydrophones. The Western navies have been able to identify every vessel in and on the surface of the Baltic since the late 1970s. The propellers create something like a fingerprint.”
2023-09-26 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.9424 (2023) · source
“Braun elaborated on a total of seven independent geophysical observations that are at variance with the reported use of a moderate explosive. The quantitative estimates place a strict lower bound on the explosive charge of 150 tons of TNT, which is at least 400 times the value of the official reports. The current findings are of high importance, as reflected by the statement by one of the reviewers: “The scientific results are relevant for current international affairs and warrant urgent reporting.” In view of the seriousness of the matter, it is important that independent and objective evidence is secured, which requires the authority of the United Nations Security Council. An absence of action puts humankind at large at risk. Mr.”
2023-09-26 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.9424 (2023) · source
“As a result, the exiting methane cannot explain the observed magnitudes in the Baltic Sea. “There are reports of technogenic craters with a depth of 3 to 5 metres. Several independent reports have related crater size to explosive weight, including nuclear underwater explosions. Also, a rough estimate of explosive charge yields at least 20 to 150 tons of TNT, again invalidating the hypothesis of a small amount of conventional explosive. These facts about the explosion that destroyed Nord Stream 1, together with independent geophysical observations, are inconsistent with the reported use of a conventional explosive of a few hundred kilograms. The observations are rather consistent with an explosive charge of 1 to 4 kilotons of TNT equivalent.” In an earlier report from 31 December 2022, Mr.”
2023-09-26 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.9424 (2023) · source
“Braun: “This effect was missed in the official reports, which were restricted to seismic stations to the west of the explosion site in the shadow of Bornholm, so to speak.” So the readings we have are from the back of Bornholm and are thus lower. “In fact, a thorough evaluation of several seismic stations around the Baltic Sea yields a Richter magnitude of 4, suggesting the use of at least 150 tons of TNT. This raises serious concerns about the nature of the explosive charge being used in the attack. “These large seismic signals have been attempted to be explained by the thrust of methane gas exiting from the destroyed pipeline. With the reported pressure, the speed of the resulting shock is significantly lower than the speed of sound in water, which is 1.5 kilometres per second.”
2023-09-26 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.9424 (2023) · source
““That considerable amount of explosive charge has been placed on Nord Stream 1 at a location such that the elliptically-shaped Swedish coastline acted as a focusing mirror for the emitted shockwave. Also, it was placed so that there was a direct and unobstructed connection between the site and the Kaliningrad coast through a submarine canyon.” So there is something like a bowl in the ocean with a canyon in the direction of Kaliningrad. “If you recall Mr. Tunander’s question as to why the sabotage was done in great depth, such a direct connection would not have been possible a few kilometres up or downstream along the Nord Stream pipeline. The location of the explosion site was designed to generate a shockwave directed at Kaliningrad.” I would remark that it was probably a message to the Russian Government. Again, according to Mr.”
2023-09-26 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.9424 (2023) · source
“However, that data was presented without units on the graph” — that is very rare in a scientific publication, to have no units on the graph — “and lacked scientific basis. Despite that serious shortcoming, an explosive charge of that magnitude or less has been quoted in the media ever since.” That is what we hear all the time: 500 to 900 kilograms. “In contrast, the official entry into the seismic GEOFON database is a magnitude of 3.1 and thus 35 times larger than the previous estimate, corresponding to roughly 25 tons of TNT equivalent. As a much smaller explosive charge would have been sufficient to destroy the pipeline, that raises considerable doubts about the nature of the explosive charge used.”
2023-09-26 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.9424 (2023) · source
“In order to appreciate those contradictions, it should be noted that the mathematical relation between seismic magnitude on the Richter scale and explosive charge is a logarithmic one: a magnitude increase by one corresponds to a 10-fold increase in seismic amplitude.” If we go from two to three, it is not linear — it is 10 times as much. “For underwater explosions, it corresponds to a 35-fold increase in explosive mass. “The official reports on the magnitude of the larger explosion that destroyed Nord Stream 1 on Swedish territory go back to an original report by Norway’s NORSAR, as Mr. Tunander stated, which reported an event of a 2.1 magnitude on the Richter scale. That corresponds to approximately 700 kilograms of TNT equivalent.”
2023-09-26 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.9424 (2023) · source
“In contrast, several solid pieces of geophysical evidence — namely, seismic waveforms, placement of explosives, aerosol cloud after explosion, underwater currents, temperature increase on ocean floor with concomitant reduced biomass production and gamma-ray detection in Poland — point towards the use of an explosive charge at least a thousand times of what has been reported previously.” Those results were presented in a detailed report initially submitted to the Swiss Government on 4 January 2023 by Mr. Braun and to its representation on the United Nations Security Council. “Without going into details, I demonstrate here that the hypothesis of the use of a conventional explosive of moderate strength is already invalidated by a close inspection of the official reports.”
2023-09-26 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.9424 (2023) · source
“At 7 a.m., the Poseidon flew over the site of the explosion for the last time, then climbed to an altitude of 10,000 metres and returned to Keflavik.” I also asked Mr. Hans Benjamin Braun, an eminent Swiss physicist with many publications in top journals who has been teaching as a professor at some leading universities. He stated the following: “So far, the official reports all agreed on the fact that the pipelines were destroyed with an explosive charge equivalent to a few hundred kilograms of conventional explosive, TNT equivalent. These reports are not only mutually contradictory, but also contradict basic physical considerations, thus invalidating the hypothesis of the use of a conventional explosive.”
2023-09-26 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.9424 (2023) · source
“That is background information. “Two hours before the first explosion at 12.03 a.m. UTC, a United States Poseidon left Keflavik, Iceland, for the waters east of Bornholm. It arrived at Bornholm one hour after the first explosion. At the same time as the explosion, strangely enough, at exactly the minute when the United States Poseidon was south-west of Norway, a United States tanker aircraft left the United States Spangdahlem air base in Germany for Poland to refuel the Poseidon so it would be able to patrol the waters east of Bornholm for the upcoming four hours. It turned off its transponder at 3.10 a.m. UTC and turned it on again three hours later, still east of Bornholm.”
2023-09-26 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.9424 (2023) · source
“It could easily have dropped a sonar buoy over the sea close to Bornholm. If Hersh was right that the Norwegians were supposed to drop the sonar buoy, the Americans at Sigonella would have to fetch it from Norway. On 14 September, a United States Hercules flew seven hours up from Sigonella to Andenes, northern Norway, and then back to Sigonella over Keflavik. We have reason to believe that the Hercules fetched something very important in Norway — a specific sonar buoy — and brought it to Sigonella.” It also should be noted that the Norwegians had bought P-8s, and they are in the process of training the crews, especially the electronic warfare and anti-submarine worker crews. So this involves a mix of people. It is not on the record in Norway, but it can be used by Norway, or it could be used by the United States.”
2023-09-26 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.9424 (2023) · source
“Seymour Hersh’s sources, supposedly from the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), also told him that the United States had used a Norwegian Poseidon to pull the trigger. Americans like ‘plausible deniability’, but there is something we have to add. It might have been the United States plan, but such an operation did not fit with traditional Norwegian security policy. So the Norwegians at a higher level seem to have backed out, contrary to the information Seymour Hersh got.” What happened instead is the following — and everything I quote here is new: “On 21 September, a United States Poseidon flew from Sigonella, Italy, up to the Nordholz navy airfield in Germany and flew for three nights back and forth over Bornholm from 22 to 25 September and then on 26 September back to Sigonella.”
2023-09-26 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.9424 (2023) · source
“United States ships like the small aircraft carrier USS Kearsarge, 257 metres, and USS Gunston Hall, 190 metres, were both capable of bringing a midget submarine, which could have been useful for the deployment of explosives at such a depth.” The two ships can transport and deploy minisubmarines and load them back into the hull on high seas. “One witness as well as Seymour Hersh have both claimed that United States Navy divers with deep diving equipment from Panama City, Florida, were present. They had nothing to do with the exercise. They had very likely been used to deploy the bombs. “Seymour Hersh claims that they had dropped a sonar buoy from a P-8A Poseidon aircraft. The buoy had sent a coded signal that triggered the timers of the bombs. This is an easy and practical way to do it.”
2023-09-26 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.9424 (2023) · source
“GEOFON Potsdam claimed that the magnitude was higher — 3.1 — which would correspond to several tons of TNT. This operation would be impossible to run from a small sailing boat. “Each section of the pipeline of steel and concrete is 12 metres long and has a weight of 24 tons. About 250 metres of the pipeline Nord Stream string A and string B have been blown away. It was a huge blast run by a State agency. “When you do a huge professional operation, you first need a cover for the deployment of the bombs, and secondly, you need to disconnect the deployment from the triggering of the bombs. Otherwise, people would easily find out who the perpetrators are. The obvious cover was the BALTOPS 22 exercise in June 2022, with 45 ships from various NATO countries. They exercised mine warfare with divers and unmanned underwater vehicles.”
2023-09-26 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.9424 (2023) · source
“Professor Emeritus Ola Tunander, formerly of the Peace Research Institute Oslo, wrote to me upon request, stressing that the location of the sabotage was at a very deep position of the pipeline, at 80 metres depth. In some distance to each side, the depth would have been 30 to 40 metres. Why was the deep location picked? Remember this information for later. Tunander wrote to me: “The explosives were deployed in the Bornholm Basin at a depth of 75 to 80 metres. Such deep dives require a decompression chamber. The story about a small sailing boat is impossible. It cannot bring the necessary decompression chamber. The depth indicates professional or military divers. “Norwegian seismological station NORSAR states a magnitude 2.1 to 2.3 of the explosion, which corresponds to 650 to 900 kg of TNT.”
2023-09-26 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.9424 (2023) · source
“I omit the baseless Western-sponsored conspiracy theory of Russia as the culprit. I think it is fair to say the authorities in Germany, Denmark, Sweden and other Western countries know enough to know that they do not want to know more. The truth would open a Pandora’s box for NATO. The version pushed in Germany via the media by the State, which itself is completely silent because of the “well-being of the State”, which can be translated to “national security”, and because of the “third- party rule” on intelligence cooperation, is that it was probably a Ukrainian operation, using a sail boat with six people on board, including four divers, but without the knowledge of the Ukrainian Government. I trust this version as far as I can throw a washing machine. But there is actually new evidence, which I want to present here.”
2023-09-26 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.9424 (2023) · source
“Mr. Pohlmann: My name is Dirk Pohlmann. I have been an investigative journalist and documentary filmmaker for 37 years and have written and directed more than 20 documentaries, mostly about intelligence operations of the Cold War and aired on television in approximately 30 countries. I am independent, I am a freelancer, and I am not on any payroll. I reported repeatedly about the Nord Stream sabotage and have contacted and interviewed many researchers on this subject. One year after that severe act of terrorism, we know astonishingly little. For example, we do not know how many explosions destroyed the alleged four damaged sites. We have seismic data for only two explosions: at 12.03 a.m. and 5.04 p.m., Universal Time Coordinated (UTC). We do not know who did it.”
2023-09-26 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.9424 (2023) · source