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President Fernandez

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  1. “Argentina's own judicial system tried and convicted those who had been responsible - including for the deaths of French citizens, such as the French nuns, and the Swedish women who were also disappeared. I therefore think we have some precedent to be able to talk about the need for this struggle to be carried out within a legal framework that includes respect for human rights, so that we do not continue feeding the beast in a perpetual cycle.”

    2014-09-24 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.7272 (2014) · source

  2. “But I often think that, in addition to having information, it is necessary to understand what is happening in each society and in each population, to try to see what the most appropriate tools are to seriously combat terrorism. It would not be unusual at all if in the coming year ISIS disappeared and some other group with another strange name and with still more virulent and violent propensities came into being - and, ultimately, we did nothing but expound on it. In conclusion, I believe that respect for human rights is a key issue in this struggle. I say that from the perspective of a country that suffered from a genocidal dictatorship unprecedented in history. But also unprecedented was the justice carried out. There was no need for a Nuremberg tribunal or to judge the dictators at the Court in The Hague.”

    2014-09-24 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.7272 (2014) · source

  3. “I therefore think we - and certainly those who have much more information available to them than I do as President of Argentina - need to reconsider a lot of things. Members will know that my country does not produce or sell weapons. We have to buy oil, as we lack energy resources - although we have a large deposit that in the future will turn us into major producers. I do not know whether that is a good thing or not, as countries that do have oil and gas also seem to have major problems. But the truth is that we are a country that does not produce weapons, we are a country that buys energy, and we are a country that does not have all the intelligence that the great Powers have.”

    2014-09-24 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.7272 (2014) · source

  4. “Frankly speaking, beyond resolution 2178 (2014), which we agree with, voted for and want to help implement, I think it would be false and cynical of me to tell the Council that we have the right methods. I think the situation in the Middle East absolutely tends towards becoming more complicated. Last November in St. Petersburg - less than a year ago - as a member of the Group of 20 we were contemplating the possibility that the great enemy was in fact the Government of Syria, and that those who were fighting Syria were freedom fighters. We have now found out that many of those same freedom fighters are now part of ISIS. Who was it, then, who were nurturing the opposition, giving them weapons and resources as freedom fighters?”

    2014-09-24 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.7272 (2014) · source

  5. “It seems to me that it is more important that we understand that in the logic of terrorism the aim is to achieve a reaction equivalent in violence and in attack to justify this continuous blood debt: for every one killed, they kill two, for every two, three, and for every three, four. Moreover, this is taking place in the context of the Middle East, where the State of Palestine is still not recognized, where we have seen the disproportionate use of force against the civilian population in Palestine and where we have not seen fall any of the leaders who launched rockets at the other side. On the contrary, we have seen innocent children, women and the elderly die. That continues to increasingly fuel these groups.”

    2014-09-24 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.7272 (2014) · source

  6. “The situation is becoming more complicated all the time, and there are ever more increasingly violent and powerful groups. Logic dictates that ifI were looking into a given methodology to address a problem and, rather than disappearing or diminishing, the problem grew and became worse, then I at least would need to revise my approach because something was not working well. I am not saying that I have the revealed truth about what we need to do, nor that I have any absolute certainty about how we have to do it. What I do know, however, is that there is an old saying in my country: "The only thing that one cannot do with cannibals is to eat them up".”

    2014-09-24 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.7272 (2014) · source

  7. “It seems the world is itself getting more and more complicated. Although under the scenario we faced last year it seemed that the most important thing was Iran and its nuclear threat, that now seems not to be the case i with ISIS seemingly having taken its place. We do not know who buys the oil from these new terrorists, nor who sells them weapons or trains them. But they obviously have financial resources. They have weapons. They have means of dissemination that are really cinematographic. That leads me to wonder about what is happening, and basically about what we must do to effectively combat terrorism. As to a military response, no one doubts that one has to defend oneself in the face of aggression. But it is also clear that the way in which we have been fighting terrorism has been inadequate.”

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  8. “I should like to highlight for the Council that I also have been threatened by ISIS personally, and my country's law-enforcement authorities are investigating. I do not really believe that ISIS is very concerned about the President of the Argentine Republic - I honestly believe that. The reasons they have given for threatening me are because of my friendship with Pope Francis and the fact that I recognize and advocate for two States, the State of Palestine and the State of Israel, living peaceably side by side. I have jotted down some questions that have occurred to me. In the midst of all this, along came Saddam Hussein with chemical weapons in Iraq, and a war was waged against him. We were eventually rid of Saddam Hussein, but then the situation in Iraq became increasingly complicated.”

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  9. “But I still have certain questions regarding the 1994 attack and the Al-Qaida attack on the Twin Towers, which was conceived and carried out by Osama bin Laden, who did not exactly appear like a mushroom after rain. Osama Bin Laden was trained by the Taliban to confront Russia during the Cold War. As I like to say, Afghanistan is the one country from which no one but Alexander the Great has gotten out alive. Later there was the emergence of the famous Arab Spring, in which everyone was apparently a freedom fighter and following which new democracies were going to arise. As it turns out, many of those freedom fighters were fundamentalists who had received military training, and who today are fighting under ISIS and recruiting young people.”

    2014-09-24 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.7272 (2014) · source

  10. “With surprise - not disgust, because nothing that leads to dialogue can be bad - we learned that, over the weekend, the Secretary of State of this country met with his Iranian counterpart in a well-known hotel in this city to discuss the problem of ISIS and to see what level of cooperation or progress could be made on the nuclear issue. Now we know that ISIS is Sunni and those who govern Iran are Shia. And suddenly I observe a far friendlier discourse between the two countries, one of which had been, as recently as last year, accusing us of consorting with terrorists. There is nothing wrong with dialogue. We welcome it. Dialogue among nations is always good.”

    2014-09-24 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.7272 (2014) · source

  11. “That led me to wonder whether, when they sought our help in securing the cooperation of the Iranian State, they really wanted our assistance or were looking for a casus belli. The same holds true in this country, where the so-called vulture funds undertook an extraordinary lobbying effort before the American Congress. That can be verified on the web, where the vulture funds posted photographs of me and Mr. Ahmadinejad, the President ofa so-called Islamist terrorist State until last year, and condemned us for signing a memorandum of understanding on legal cooperation.”

    2014-09-24 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.7272 (2014) · source

  12. “We even offered alternatives sites, as in the Lockerbie case, such as a third country where they could be questioned. Finally, in 2012, the Iranian Chancery proposed abilateral meeting, and in 2013 a memorandum of understanding was drawn up to establish judicial cooperation between both countries on the condition that the Iranian citizens could be questioned directly by our judge, because there is no provision in the Argentine legal system for trial in absentia. The accused must be questioned and tried in conformity with our Constitution and with respect for their basic rights. Once that agreement had been signed, community organizations that had always insisted that we reach an agreement with the Islamic Republic of Iran accused us of collaborating with the Iranians.”

    2014-09-24 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.7272 (2014) · source

  13. “In 1994, it was said in my country and the world that Hizbullah had been responsible for bombing AMIA, yet today Hizbullah is a political party in Lebanon. In 2006, a special prosecutorial unit was created at the initiative of former President Ne'stor Kirchner to investigate the 1994 attack. I repeat, the 1994 attack. In other words, this year marks 20 years since the AMIA attack and the perpetrators still have not been brought to justice. After the investigation was conducted, the trial judge decided to indict eight Iranian citizens who live in Tehran. After that, between 2007 and 2012, first former President Nestor Kirchner and then I repeatedly asked the Islamic Republic of Iran, at every meeting of the United Nations, to allow us to question the accused.”

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  14. “I have come with several certainties and several doubts to participate in this meeting of the Council. I came of course to vote in favour of resolution 2178 (2014), which we have just discussed, but also to decisively and definitively condemn terrorism. My country, the Argentine Republic, and the United States of America are the only two countries on the American continent to have been the object of savage terrorist attacks. In 1992, the Israeli Embassy in Buenos Aires was blown up, and in 1994 we had the bombing of the Argentine Jewish Mutual Association (AMIA) headquarters. That leads me to raise a number of questions. With everything that is taking place, this phenomenon that has just appeared, the Islamic State of Iraq and the Sham (ISIS), was unknown last year.”

    2014-09-24 · UN Security Council · Security Council, S/PV.7272 (2014) · source