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Vince Vaughn

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  1. I want to thank you truly and for coming in and playing. I think you do a tremendous job and there's been a lot of good that have come into my life from what you do. And I know to others as well, and I hope that continues. So thank you for your inspiration and for your vulnerability. I appreciate it.

    2017-05-30 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #243: How to Fear Less -- Vince Vaughn · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  2. Articulated version of it. Yes, you know, be engaged in learning from others and watching them for sure more than feeling a need to. Where you're at now

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  3. Parting words. Oh man, I don't know. I just feel that being engaged in life is a good thing. Trying at stuff is a good thing and then really doing your own evaluations for how you feel about what you're doing is important. And I think connecting with people is good and laughing and having downtime and taking the pressure off and just being daydreaming, being present, not always driving towards something. Sometimes I think learning comes from letting the mind rest and doing nothing as well.

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  4. I probably wouldn't say anything because I don't like to give advice to people because I feel like you can show people the way, but they have to find their own way. But maybe it would be to learn how you learn. And to learn yourself, you know, and accept yourself. Learn who you are and learn to accept and love yourself, I think, is a big part of life because within that, you might find your interest and give yourself permission to explore, like the Campbell quote of Follow Your Bliss. And then also learning how you learn is getting quiet and learning how to engage in things for example your swimming situation, finding a way to approach it where you were going to enjoy it versus taking some sort of a Course, that someone says you have to do it this way. There's always more than one way to the waterfall. Be a long bill

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  5. And I think, but seeing someone like yourself, it gives permission to feel like you could do it, because I see someone who starts from a place of being drowned by a bully. And emotionally you connect to that, you know, putting a sense of memory with a terrible experience to then realize that whatever my personal dialogue is about seeing how it goes. You know, one great thing about failure is you realize it's not as bad as your mind makes it out to be. It's the fear is more crippling than the actual consequences. Consequence is a lot of times feel almost relieving in a way because now you've faced it, you've gone through it, and that kind of takes that away from you.

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  6. Going back to Franklin with the Juno, you know, he would have the club where people would get together and they would do similar types of things. So it's a skill. It's something to definitely work on. Nowadays, I think with the internet and stuff, we all have so much wealth of just information. It used to be so hard to get a book. Now you can get information on anything. So I think getting the information is interesting, but getting the skill sets like active literacy, being able to stand up and give a speech, being able to write your ideas. I think those are all things that are good to spend time on because whatever your passion is, they'll help you in that. Because ultimately you may need to connect or get a job or do something and that skill set's helpful.

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  7. That's an important skill set calling people that you're not comfortable with and getting access and figuring out how to do that. If you don't learn how to reach out, you've given yourself permission many times prior to even writing where you would call someone because you were fascinated and you'd be surprised if done in a way that feels good.

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  8. Very rigorous homework assignment in the language, so it forced you to really stay focused on chess. And then if you lost, you were actually learning something that was valuable. So just systems and things that he would do and how he would approach things, where he would be somewhat vulnerable, so it was encouraging that a process could lead to changing your circumstance.

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  9. Benjamin Franklin's autobiography is, I think, the most compelling of books in that. He writes, I think, originally to his son. It's not his biography, it's his telling of it. And he was such a prolific person. And I think what's interesting in similar ways that I enjoy you and what you do, he talks about his process. He invented the pros and cons list, the public library, the fire department, and was very prolific in science, obviously electricity, the catheter, bifocals, flippers. But then musically, in languages, he spoke many languages. It is a falsity that you're one side of your mind or the other. They really are connected, and he would explore process very much so of how to, like in language, he was learning Italian, he had a chess opponent that was very equal. And so they would play in the loser. The winner got to a sign.

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  10. Yeah, that's a journey that we all learn of the tone Mel Gibson, who's one of my favorite filmmakers, and I worked with him on Hacksaw. Without knowing it, the old Warner Brothers, when it was a family, they had a mission statement for their movies that was slightly different, but it was entertained, educate, and then Mel would say elevate. So if you just entertain people, you keep it fun and engaging, educate they're learning about something right through the course of the movie and elevate you leave feeling inspired that you could do something and Warner's thing was enlighten, but similar as a roadmap. And I think that's important like in going to do dramatic stuff, like it doesn't have to be the dark keys of the piano always in earnestness. It feels false in a way. So I think being able to be light or have fun in writing. And then when you want to make a point or have it hit, you give yourself permission, it feels like, to go within and go within and out tones.

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  11. When you destroy someone you love, a relationship with someone you love, what is the dynamics in leaving, they both leave in a better place, but there's a nostalgia that not for us, not for this moment.

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  12. Person enough to stick around and learn this lesson, and now I can't go forward with them. And it was more authentic to me in my experience at the time that you don't end up with someone you love a lot because of your flaws, but at best you could learn and be a better person and then go out there and meet a person again, knowing that in life sometimes the love you feel younger, how strong as it is, it doesn't return in the same ways because you've gone through that experience, you've felt those rushes before. So it's an interesting journey. So in that movie, I wanted them not to end up together. And I had two great young writers. They hadn't done a lot.

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  13. Where you could be really drawn to someone and very much connected to them, and not just physically, but there was something going on where you were really drawn to them. And at the same time, there were things about them that were very much so in conflict with things about yourself. It was not a match. And there was always lessons I would look at it more in a spiritual way or conscious way or psychology way. What is it that's playing out in this way? So I thought sometimes you have to really love someone. Your skill set's not there. Theirs isn't there. And so you clash and you burn out the relationship. You burn out the love. And now you can never return to it. You've damaged it to the point where there's no going back. And now you're a better person if you were to meet today, you'd have a chance. But you can't meet today and you're not going to be with that person. And there was an oddity in that moment to me of, I love this person.

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  14. Well, I had an idea I had never done a romantic comedy, and then after that I fell into the trappings of some of these. And there was a lot of good in the approach to this movie. And one thing that I should have held stronger to, but to that point was I was off of these romantic comedies, and it wasn't my life experience. I found that like a lot of people of my generation, and I think maybe with evaluation too strongly, I was really committed to focus on my career and that a relationship was something that you could be in love or have feelings, but you had to get yourself into a certain place career-wise, which is just not necessarily always the case or true. But at that time, I had never thought about what would make a marriage work or being with someone, but I would have feelings and investigate people. But I was fascinated by, because I had this experience happen.

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  15. And yet it's applying very much so to sexual encounters in a house. So my point being that I think we really just try to define Dysfunction, friendship, that feeling of you love someone, a friendship, but you're like a married couple, you have real issues and problems and they conflict. And we were only looking to pursue this. And I didn't know that it would make money or what it would do. There wasn't a lot of, you know, there was some R movies that had done well. Old school did good. And then, of course, there was somebody about Marion, of course, the stuff we grew up on, or I'm aging you more than me. But Animal House and these things, again, of that time, we were really just looking to hit the hard chords in an honest way for what we found to be fun. And then it turned out to be a larger success.

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  16. Has absolute unapologetic convictions about some things that might contradict each other, and his point of view is surprising. So he is infuriated that he was jacked off under the table. He blames his friend for putting him in the circumstances, right? Like that would be a terrible moment to have happen by a very attractive younger girl. But in his mind, this is a horror that no one should have. And yet at the same time, an older woman's breast to fondle them would be absolute bliss. That would be joy. And that would be an exceptional moment. And then he kind of puts himself in that moment like a child, like an already sense memory in his mind, what he builds it up as. And so I think the commitment to those points of view and how they lay up against each other. And then the team players, like you're mocking the very concept of what's a healthy work environment?

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  17. But Owen is a terrific writer. I mean, he wrote a lot of the Wes Anderson stuff with Wes Younger, and he just very has a very interesting take on things. And we have similarities and differences. But we just approached it and started to just write, like in the course of a month. We just sort of changed the structure and the writing of the script with the director. We all just would sit and write and change it. So very much so in the spirit that you and your friends would do something, not worrying whether it was going to be liked. not worrying whether the studio would say was okay. And I remember first being on the set saying some of the things I was saying and I was like, I can't believe no one's stopping me or no one saying you can't say this. But I think the difference here was we weren't earning our R. I had no intention of being shocking for shocking's sake. If you look at that scene and you go back to the early statement that there's nothing funny about comedy, I think what makes that thing interesting is funny is he is

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  18. We worked from a similar place of swingers at the time. I had rejected most. After Jurassic Park, I didn't do a lot of studio movies and I was offered some, but I was just more gravitating towards these independent movies. And we got to, and then when Todd Phillips, who's still a friend who I like quite a bit, Todd offered me old school, the studio, said, we don't think he can be funny. He had done mainly dramatic stuff younger. and old school felt like a great thing to me because I felt like we were doing something authentic, but I also could really, excuse me, buy into it in a way that felt like this is awesome, this is fun. And so I sort of got my wings in a way that I could do more commercial fear, but it was going to be something that I was really excited about. So we got to do crashers. There was a concept and an idea. The director David Dobkin, I had done this movie Clay Pigeons with Younger, and I liked him quite a bit.

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  19. Well, that was really that movie that was my biggest thing was his ability to not create a separation, to know what he wanted, but at the same time be engaging with others. And yeah, I just admired the tone in which he did things.

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  20. It was odd, but I had never, younger, I was real defiant in what I wanted to do, but I loved Spielberg's movies and went into Jurassic Park and did that. And then I really liked him. I found him to be very generous with his knowledge. I took meetings he would talk about Western movies. I'm a fan of Westerns, and we would just sit as two fans and dissecting things. And I found him, which I think is very nice in someone in his position, allowing my opinions and taking them in and turning them around and then coming back, I felt it was playful. And I found him as a person that was obviously knowledgeable to still be including in a young man's conversations in film. And that was a great quality of his that I think I enjoyed that connection in those conversations with him.

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  21. You see his YouTube thing with the Fall Rise story? That's great. He explains the stories in kind of a Fall Rise, which would be Cinderella, and he does a real nonchalant. I recommend it.

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  22. But then you're putting satisfaction in someone else's hands, which is very dangerous, versus did you attain what your goals were, knowing that your goals might change. And I say goals, I don't mean perception or results. I mean the execution. Which goes back to the schooling and learning in the same way for me? Am I exploring what I believe in versus trying to please someone?

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  23. Realizing from a personal place what you're frustrated about or what you feel like there's lacking, sometimes that is a great catalyst to creating that very niche thing. And then it gets into the fabric in a very different way.

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  24. And say, Well, why am I telling this and why do I believe? And it was forcing us to reaffirm and approach the edit even from a greater strength of truth of conviction of what we were doing. And ultimately, it became what it became. I'd like to say that we knew it, but we were naive enough to believe that if we experienced this, we found a value in it, and it just so turned out that there was lots of people maybe not living in a swing-centric neighborhood. Like when people would read the script, they would say, Why can't you put in brunge music or hip-hop music or things that were popular to suggest that an audience would be more engaging? But we said, no, it's not interesting to us. This is a unique community. And I think the uniqueness is actually what made it translate and then swing music became had a surgeons afterwards. But I think by not overthinking what people want, by experiencing in the same way that he's saying.

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  25. I think he came to a read through a friend of his suggested the script and he saw the value of it and wanted to participate. Yeah, and so there was times we made the movie wanting to go to film festivals in this case Sundance was real popular and we got rejected by Sundance and the mission was sort of to get into Sundance and it felt to me that perhaps the male point of view in an unapologetic way that was very authentic to what these guys journey was was not in sync necessarily with what the festival was doing so or that movie so it was interesting to have had as part of our plan be given a no and that was another resilient moment where at that point it's like Dorothy right you had to not put a value on the wizard and go within again

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  26. No, we take meetings at the agency and talk. We had done the Rudy and whatever, but then we'd leave in the agency and be like, they're an arms dealer, I think, I don't know, but here's the point. They're going to give you a check. I don't know. But none of them came through until finally Doug made the movie.

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  27. Oh God, it was every day we thought there was money there was an arms dealer at some point that was going to invest. I don't know.

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  28. In this case, it's letting go of rejection of a girl and giving yourself permission to feel like you're viable that someone could love you. First, you start off saying, how do I learn tricks to trick someone? And at the core of that is suggesting that you yourself wouldn't be loved, right? That there would have to be some manipulation, which is such a terrible place to work from. I think what made Swinger so different than a lot of the pickup stuff later was Swers was really kind of self-empowering. You know, he rejects Trent's stuff sort of in the end. He kind of connects to someone by being his true self. He doesn't try to be something different. And it's through going inward and finding his way that he evolves to his next stage, which is now he's connecting someone from a truthful place. And so it was to the point that you showed with the clip of Blake. It was a frustration in what was available. And then...

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  29. But that can be challenging when there's cultural things that are trying to break through, and that they can, a lot of times they resonate because people are connecting to self-growth, you know, the stages of one's life, whether it's in a Campbell way or a Carl Young way. It's the same evolution of facing your fears and the nature of letting go of ego and those things. And the stories are exploring those in some way. So Doug came on. He had the money.

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  30. It was counter, it wasn't a health video, it was more what was going on. So we were rejecting these things. And anyway, we finally, Glyman came on to direct the movie. There was a journey for us to play the parts, which ended up happening. How did the director come on? To finance the movie, we couldn't get the movie made. There was lots of, we used to do live readings, and every time we do a reading, it played huge. But in the way that they would handicap things, they would suggest, what's the audience for it? You know, there's a problem in Hollywood in that it's gone to Wall Street, meaning it's so quarterly. Everyone needs to drive towards a return. It's like the car industry. It used to be an engineer would get the corner office. And it's the Harvard guys get the office. It's the finance guys, you know. But the productivity is that the cars perhaps suffer sometimes. In our industry, it's the IP that's going to break through.

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  31. Getting the movie made, and at the time we had read the book, The Fountain Head, which is read it earlier, John had read it, which is defiant in its pursuit of one's artistic goals, meaning you don't compromise, you stay truthful to what you're exploring. And so we were very young and very much wanting to not change things. There were suggestions to make the movie. If there was a girl that was part of the group because they wanted to hear a girl's perspective. And I thought if these guys had a girl's perspective, they wouldn't act this way. This is about young men when you're outside of high school or college for the first time. How do you go up and meet someone when you don't have a comfort zone with them? You know, so it was really exploring that time.

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  32. In these places. And we became focused on getting that movie made. We had nothing really, he had an agent I didn't, but we would go and sit in this coffee shop, the one that was in the movie. And in our minds, we would play out. It was almost like visualization. We would play out how to get past obstacles, how it would be received. And I think this is interesting in life.

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  33. Right, a need. It's the same thing that he was saying, a frustration, there's something. So it felt like for me, I had lived in Los Filas, the old punk rock band, started playing live swing music and writing original swing music. And I had always had an interest in old swing music and big band music and country music, and I still listened to it when I was older. And so when this kind of came about, you could go to a live venue and hear original songs by a 14-piece band. It was fantastic. And it was just what was going on. It was nothing we created. It was the environment which we lived in, which to your point is you're seeing a need and a cause. So I said to John, I said that we can't sit around and wait for someone to write something. You know, we should go write something. And I started my journey and I write something. And in two weeks, John had this story inside of him, which was leaving a girlfriend behind and moving to this unique world and me sort of being a guy that showed him around to these bars.

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  34. Well, there's a lot, you know, I think everyone remembers, I think whenever you work on a movie, people always remember their contributions greater in success and in failure. People always make it like, God, I've tried to warn them, right? But swingers really came about because there was an auditioning for lots of parts that I felt weren't truthful or connected to what was going on. There was not, they were being written. That's why I think it's important for young people, both musically and writing-wise, whether it's film or books or whatever, to have a voice because it's unique to the culture at that time. And I think things that resonate in the culture are more important than setting out for a large global thing, I think. I think sometimes you can have things become larger, but if it starts, whether it's boys in the hood or something that feels like it's trying to explore the now is very viable.

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  35. That was improv. A lot of that was improv, and it's in the moment. We had a production crew. We did that movie for 250,000 dollars. And I think our sound guide normally had done porno movies. And, you know, we were doing this stuff and taking it. And I think they were judging us a lot like, oh, God, here are these fucking guys saying money again. And so when I did that, I caught, I think, a crew member that was maybe like Snoozefest. It was late. And so I use it as if it was patrons at the bar and I responded in the moment as if like I'm the fucking asshole for trying, right? Like I'm the fucking asshole in the place for celebrating my friend's gross, right? So it was, but it was all connected. It was the intention was obviously there. And then you would play around with it.

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  36. So, when something like a podcast, which is the continuation of the same thing, although you're exploring different people, how do you stay, is it that the people are different and the opportunity to investigate is different? But how do you stay focused on that knowing that your nature is to

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  37. But then we have the problem on the other side, which I don't know if you've experienced, and you see it with boxers a lot. But once you have a level of success, can you maintain a motivation to have the approach that you once had when the immediate needs are not there as strong? Sure. How have you done with that? Because you're in a place right now that I find

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  38. Where you're able to, I think it's important to allow yourself to feel disappointed. I think it's important that you don't turn off those feelings. But it is also important to how do you do that as quickly as possible to then become productive again and start doing the things that are going to give you a better opportunity for what you want. The same could be said for a relationship. It hurts your feelings. But how much time is the effective in mourning it and processing it? I really believe no time is not good. You need that moment to accept it. But the sooner you can get back to doing things for your own growth and the things you're in charge of, I think your chances of having the things you want in your life become greater.

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  39. So, what would happen is when you would get that close and it wouldn't happen at first, I would get down and I would take four or five days and I would just not do anything and I'd say, oh, I'd lose my energy. And then I started to realize that the week I took off was really two weeks, that it was a week of not getting better and it was a week of getting worse. And I said, now I've given myself two weeks less to improve at the things I'm in control of. And I started looking at it like a percentage gain. The more I worked on things, my percentages would go up. And what I realized later was it gave you a confidence to feel like you belong there. It gave you permission to perform in situations that didn't feel comfortable because you had felt good about what you had brought to the table. And so I would suggest that you find a process.

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  40. Screen test would be you're close, there's a couple people for a role, and now they're going to film a scene from the movie with you, and perhaps the already casted actor or just pair people together. And in screen testing, they would just see who mixes and matches or how do you do on camera? How do they feel you come off? And I had a couple of those, maybe four or five for good opportunities. And when you don't get it, so you could go through seven or eight auditions to get to this point is between you and two or three other people. And when you don't get it, your day the next day doesn't change, meaning you still are going to get asked to go in for five lines on a television show or something smaller. There is no advancement as far as opportunity. You are just a person with the same credits you had. So there was a lot of time spent to get to that and energy, to get to that moment. And if it didn't pan out, there was no change in how you were no more castable as a known entity than what you were.

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  41. Well, I think I looked at it mathematically at a certain point, which was I started just focusing my entire day on perfecting my craft. So I was either watching a movie, reading a book on stuff, doing monologues, taking classes. Or bring products from infomercials. Ordering products from infomercials came later. That was the dessert. That was a treat for having gotten a chance to work. But I would deny myself other things. I couldn't go do this. I couldn't travel until I earned it. So I would deny myself certain things that I would want to do and say I haven't earned that yet, which I find to be a good motive. And then what I did was if I would screen test for a movie that was a big opportunity that would have been life-changing, it would have given me an opportunity. What do you screen?

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  42. I think whatever you're getting rejected for, they find a reason to say it. I think when I was going out for roles younger and I was so much taller than people, they would say that. And I'm sure it played a role into it. But I think it's important whatever you're doing that you don't give voice to things that you're not able to change. You would have to use it in a way to find ways to do stuff. It's all neutral ultimately, even if it doesn't feel that way. On some level, at least for the purposes of approaching stuff. But look, at the end of the day, it's just a lot of rejection. It's the nature of it. So I had gotten turned on a probably a thousand to one for the times that I would audition or more. And it wasn't always consistent the reasons why. But all you knew was that you weren't getting a chance to participate. And so you would have to go back to the lab and try to get to a place of being more and more undeniable.

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  43. No, no, I'm talking to someone. Get off the phone. You don't have to know my business. I work two jobs in Herb's buy. We have a pile of things that Herb doesn't use. And I got to pay for these things. And so we would create a dynamic for the person who was selling where they had invested a lot of time. Were they going to lie and sell to Herb? Or were they going to listen to the distressed wife who was paying for all of this stuff? And it was different every time. Sometimes they would say, yes, mammy is ordering again. Sometimes they would go along with I said, no, I'm just a friend and we're talking. But we were just bored. And so we were using improv for evil, I guess.

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  44. He really did have emotional things. I was like, I'm bringing my ass down there. And you would call just to see the response. I had one I used to do that was fun with some actresses that I worked with. We would be bored on location. And so there would be these late night, which there still is, you know, record and tapes you could buy or a set of steak knives or some workout thing or what have you. And they would always say these are whatever. So I would call and in a really long process I would ask a lot of detailed questions. Right? Is this and has it been tested or are these standard hits? I think these are extra.

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  45. I would say, I'm an emotional dragon. I live in a place that's whatever. So I would try to create a scary scenario. And sometimes they would say, well, you need to fight some of my underlings. And I say, I'll chew through your underlings. I'm fine. Give me one underling. And then I want you. Because if you're going to teach me, I need to know that you can handle what I call a real fight. I used to do it. And we would be crying, but I had one guy really snap. Get your ass down here

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  46. Ever fought, and I said, I really need to focus this and train, and they'd kind of be uncomfortable, and I would tell some really crazy stories. And then I would always suggest, because I was interested in the reaction, and then I would always suggest that I want to join and I want you to put me in fights, but I need to respect you so I'm coming down to fight you. We need to lock ourselves in a room, and maybe your tricks are going to work.

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  47. The unknown person's name because the other one probably won't want to deal with stuff. But at that point, they had already agreed. So we would go and get passes and go into the park and go on the rides and go around. And it felt like, you know, that looking at it now as you're older doesn't feel good. But younger getting, it was something fun about getting into a bar when I wasn't allowed to. I liked performing more live on stage when I wasn't supposed to be there. It was provocative to me. Getting alcohol seemed fascinating or getting anything where I felt that I was not supposed to be doing it, I was drawn to. And this seemed interesting to me because it was like getting in and it was innocent on some level. But yes, we used to do that. We used to also do a lot of crank calling. And I would crank call. This is before UFC was real popular. We used to crank call like karate studios or these places. And I would make it like I was a troubled youth who got in fights and I had real issues and I beat up everyone.

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  48. That's right, it was a Saturday. No one had cell phones. And I knew his name would be on the list of people. And I said, I work for so-and-so. I'm his assistant. And there's a movie starring a bunch of actors. We want them to spend some time together. And we want them to come into the park. And they would say, well, what's your name? Say my name. They say, you're not on the list. I said, I'm his personal assistant. I'm not on the list. But I think his name should be on it. And then I'd overly spell it for them. And they would say yes. They say, well, we're not sure. And I said, well, let me give you the list of names. And I named like really well-known actors, like really, really well-known actors. And I said, they would love to come in. So of course they would accommodate. And then in the course, once they said yes and it was approved, I would then at the end say I'd give one name, which was my real name, right, which wasn't well known. And then at the end, once they approved it and they were going forward, I would then say, you know what, put it under.

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  49. That the head casting director for Disney, I knew his name because I had auditioned for stuff at Disney. So I called the park on Saturday and said, I'm an assistant for this casting director, and I have a bunch of young actors who are starring in a movie. We weren't well known actors.

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  50. And he would talk to the security guard as he left. And it was interesting to me, and we would buy liquor this way, other kids would go and spot bear and have the sailors or whoever was in the neighborhood. Sometimes you'd get it, sometimes you wouldn't. But he would buy like I would do this later in life, but it was a game to me. Younger, I thought it was like, could you get away with this? But we would buy like a loaf of bread, some mustard. But then underneath the shopping cart, we would put bottles of vodka and bear. We weren't even old enough to be buying the booze. And you talked to everyone and you'd go through the chuck outline. This is before things would beep. And you'd buy your bread and your bologna and you would cart out, you know, at $18, 19 years old, the vodka underneath. So as it pertained to Disneyland, it was an actor, I won't name his name, but he became very well known and successful. But I knew...

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