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Vinod Khosla

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2023-07-31 · On with Kara Swisher · Vinod Khosla’s View of the Future, From AI to China · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“In any case, Vino's a really smart guy, and he's often very much ahead of things, and I'm glad he's still pressing forward on interesting new things”
2023-07-31 · On with Kara Swisher · Vinod Khosla’s View of the Future, From AI to China · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“They've got plenty of problems inside China. It's not a walk in the park for them. And we always put these monsters up in front of ourselves to motivate us. But I would take the US any day of the week, twice on Sunday.”
2023-07-31 · On with Kara Swisher · Vinod Khosla’s View of the Future, From AI to China · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Out, we'll have to deal with, you know, again, I think most things spin forward, not everything, and we go backwards, but kids used to work in factories, you know, just like things change. And we didn't think they were going to change, and they do. And so this is an opportunity to change in a good way. And hopefully I am heartened by government's movement so far. I don't know if it's going to go anywhere, but to say, ugh, they'll do nothing again. I hope they don't. They have an opportunity to do good government. So we'll see”
2023-07-31 · On with Kara Swisher · Vinod Khosla’s View of the Future, From AI to China · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Problems. Okay. Okay. We suck. So I don't know what to say. You either have to not suck or not. We will have to do something.”
2023-07-31 · On with Kara Swisher · Vinod Khosla’s View of the Future, From AI to China · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“That's an old idea of the US. That has been dying for years. And so I do think we've changed a lot more than you realize. And I think there is an openness to a lot more creative solutions for people. I think people have reached a limit where selfishness is not necessarily helping us. It's not about selfishness.”
2023-07-31 · On with Kara Swisher · Vinod Khosla’s View of the Future, From AI to China · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Well, yeah, but it's his opinion. It's not easy. No one says it's easy. I think it's just this is, he's just stating what I think is probably accurate is that this is going to happen. And so this is my idea.”
2023-07-31 · On with Kara Swisher · Vinod Khosla’s View of the Future, From AI to China · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“You're going to change something. What has happened is that a lot more, we've got to come up with new jobs, and that's the challenge rather than saying, oh no, oh no on everything, is let's get together with smart people working together to figure out what the next job should be, how we should reform things. Maybe we won't be able to do it, but saying it's not going to happen is not really particularly helpful.”
2023-07-31 · On with Kara Swisher · Vinod Khosla’s View of the Future, From AI to China · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“But don't you think that's a bit dystopian, or you think that is what the world will look like? I don't know if it's dystopian. It's happened to farmers. It's happened to manufacturing people. It's just because it's happening to richer people. I think, look, doctors should spend more time with patients and not doing forms and other things that they're not as good at. I don't think there's anything wrong with replacing root work wherever it may be with digital versions of that that's better. There's not any great talent in reading of radiology like an x-ray. I think there are, of course, jobs become mute with technology. That's definitely true. But I think the challenge for me was actually, he said, one, humans will have other jobs to do. And you've said this before with drivers and cars. But my big question is, what jobs? I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I didn't, nobody imagined the internet would create Uber. Nobody imagined all kinds of things. I don't know.”
2023-07-31 · On with Kara Swisher · Vinod Khosla’s View of the Future, From AI to China · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Fuels everything in Silicon Valley. So, you know, that makes sense for me to say that. And of course, those underlying trends, the transformer paper, the scaling of power is what also those people are watching, not just their self-interest, but where are the jobs? What can they build? Yeah, but I don't even think they read. You don't think they read? No, I don't. Where can they get money? Oh my gosh. I don't know. I think engineers are, so I feel I've met so many earnest engineers who are just excited about fixing the next problem. Oh, they get bored. They get bored and they move on to other things. They have a very hummingbird-like personalities in a lot of ways. They shift to the next thing. They do. He outlined this vision of AI doctors. It's all kind of dystopian. And in a way, it kind of makes sense, like this 80% of 80%, because I've heard doctor friends say to me, look, I should be able to look at numbers for most of my patients and then spend more time with a smaller set of patients than need intervention. So that makes sense.”
2023-07-31 · On with Kara Swisher · Vinod Khosla’s View of the Future, From AI to China · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“All right, Vinote, thank you so much. I really appreciate it So, UNOC Coastla won't be going golfing or sailing anytime soon, it seems. We never would have anyway, so it doesn't matter. So we're just continuing to do what we don't do together. That's true. Maybe I'll do another interview 20 years from now since both of you will still be working. No, I shall not. You will not be in the 80% of the 80% whose jobs are taken. No, never actually. I thought it was interesting that he attributed the jump in AI, not to the transformer paper and not to the increasing scale of computer power, but to the idea that people are moving there. That was a leading indicator for him was that humans were moving there. Yeah, I think he's right. It's a very VC way to look at it. Well, you know, that's how they watch things. Like, where are people going, whether it's crypto or anything else? And I do think, you know, people do things in their self-interest. And so they're watching self-interest happening. And that's one of the things that drives Silicon Valley. Everyone rushes to the internet or rushes to crypto or rushes to whatever. But Kara, it's not all benevolence. No, nothing. None of it is. Shocking. Self-agree.”
2023-07-31 · On with Kara Swisher · Vinod Khosla’s View of the Future, From AI to China · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Okay, so my last question You've been in venture capital for so long. How do you look at venture capitalists now and their use? Here we are in Sandhill Row, the famous place. It's changed drastically. Has it changed for the good or bad? Do you see innovation in your own industry?”
2023-07-31 · On with Kara Swisher · Vinod Khosla’s View of the Future, From AI to China · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“No, I know you don't. You recently said you probably joined threads. Have you done it? What do you think about the competition? No, to be honest, I did.”
2023-07-31 · On with Kara Swisher · Vinod Khosla’s View of the Future, From AI to China · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Okay, all right. So it's not sort of the current trend of venture capitalists opining on everything from Ukraine to whatever they feel like talking about that day.”
2023-07-31 · On with Kara Swisher · Vinod Khosla’s View of the Future, From AI to China · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“To do it. But I was curious why you did that. I'm fascinated by it. It was unusual for me to see it because you don't strike me as a dunker and a meme lord or anything like that, a dank meme lord. You don't have that reputation.”
2023-07-31 · On with Kara Swisher · Vinod Khosla’s View of the Future, From AI to China · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So pointless. So, pointless jobs. You don't like them just. You know, English majors are not grammar. It's about literature. But okay, all right.”
2023-07-31 · On with Kara Swisher · Vinod Khosla’s View of the Future, From AI to China · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Oh, you have a lot. Let me read. You want me to read you a couple? I really enjoyed your English major tweet. Why do this, Vinod? I'm just curious. It's been a curious development.”
2023-07-31 · On with Kara Swisher · Vinod Khosla’s View of the Future, From AI to China · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“All right, so let's check. You did talk about tweet. That was a funny tweet, but you're kind of active on Twitter these days. You're getting a little trolley there, Vinode. What's happening? What tweet are you talking about? I'm not even asking about your beach controversy. How is the beach, by the way”
2023-07-31 · On with Kara Swisher · Vinod Khosla’s View of the Future, From AI to China · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So, you don't feel that you were early to those, or is this the time now to really invest? One of the things you brought up nuclear fusion, this is the tech you've invested in, Sam Altman just announced the fact, Bezos, Peter Thiel, Bill Gates. Talk about fusion, for example, which Mark Benioff has called the Holy Grail. Many people think we're decades away from functioning fusion power in plants. There are efforts to make small modular nuclear devices. People are thinking about nuclear nuclear energy plants to restart them. Where are you looking at in climate?”
2023-07-31 · On with Kara Swisher · Vinod Khosla’s View of the Future, From AI to China · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“It went bankrupt. Fortune actually asked, and I'd love you to comment on this if it was, quote, evidence that fast-moving venture capital investors are ill-suited to tackle such technically demanding, time-consuming endeavors.”
2023-07-31 · On with Kara Swisher · Vinod Khosla’s View of the Future, From AI to China · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“No, I know, but when I interviewed Dor, he was like, We didn't, it wasn't the hit we wanted it to be. He was also early in a lot of those things and felt it was too early.”
2023-07-31 · On with Kara Swisher · Vinod Khosla’s View of the Future, From AI to China · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Cake itself. Right. And so you think doing that too quickly is a problem. You've had this experience. You said in 2007 the clean tech field was ripe for VCs. And you said there are easy pluckings. That was a tough time for you. Those investments, and I know you and I have talked about that, you had investments in biofuel, you had solar investments. It didn't work out at the time. Is that what you're talking about too early? No, no.”
2023-07-31 · On with Kara Swisher · Vinod Khosla’s View of the Future, From AI to China · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“That doing that. Okay. You just mentioned climate. Let's talk about climate. You mentioned a number of projects, public transportation, fusion. At the Breakthrough Energy Summit in October last year, you said, quote, if we try and reduce carbon by 2030, we're much worse off than set a reduction target of 2040. Slow down, explain.”
2023-07-31 · On with Kara Swisher · Vinod Khosla’s View of the Future, From AI to China · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So, is it important for you to take a political stand in some more promising like India if you want them to be on this journey?”
2023-07-31 · On with Kara Swisher · Vinod Khosla’s View of the Future, From AI to China · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And so, what's to be done? Because this is not a solvable problem. Would you think it'd be good? You're so well known in India to take a stronger stand there.”
2023-07-31 · On with Kara Swisher · Vinod Khosla’s View of the Future, From AI to China · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“That's correct. Okay. So let's move to India and its role in tech over the next couple of decades. Sam Altman met with the Prime Minister, Modi, during a recent visit to D.C. and reportedly discussed collaborating on AI. I want to know what collaboration would look like. His visit was controversial given human rights records there. What do you make of him?”
2023-07-31 · On with Kara Swisher · Vinod Khosla’s View of the Future, From AI to China · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So, what do you think they should do? I'm going to point at TikTok only because I do think there's a lot more important things happening like 5G and everything else than that. But what's to be done about something like TikTok? Because it's so symbolic and emblematic of the issue. Here's a very popular app. A couple of years ago, about four or five years ago, I wrote a piece that said best product I've seen in a long time. I'm using it on a burner phone. We got to get China out of here. And I got a lot of pushback that I was anti-Chinese and anti-Asian. And I was like, no, I'm anti-Chinese Communist Party. But now everybody's like, oh, we should ban them. And what is your feeling of what to do about that particular issue?”
2023-07-31 · On with Kara Swisher · Vinod Khosla’s View of the Future, From AI to China · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Be back in a minute. You in March, just before TikTok CEO testified before Congress, you hosted a dinner with Peter Thiel in DC for investors and lawmakers to press China as a technoeconomic threat, how Speaker Kevin McCarthy was there. What was your goal? Because at the dinner, Teal compared TikTok to homelessness in his speech, and he said that, quote, both are a really obvious problem. I'd love you to talk a little bit about that dinner and then TikTok itself, because it's emblematic. TikTok's not is sort of the shiny.”
2023-07-31 · On with Kara Swisher · Vinod Khosla’s View of the Future, From AI to China · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So, what does the US do then? You say democracy and freedom of speech is at stake, but you're also going to make a lot of money. Is democracy at stake here, or what should the U.S. do? What should the U.S. policy be right now on this? And I assume you're working in concert with government.”
2023-07-31 · On with Kara Swisher · Vinod Khosla’s View of the Future, From AI to China · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So you've said that that's why, as Musk and others have said, that AI should take a pause. You've advocated because of quote we need to win the race against China. You've also worried about, as you've noted, the existential threat. What does an arms race with China mean that we have to do? Obviously, we have to do it. We have to fight with them on this issue.”
2023-07-31 · On with Kara Swisher · Vinod Khosla’s View of the Future, From AI to China · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Can take his word for what he's saying. Okay, let's talk about government's role in regulating AI. It's something that's been much discussed around the world. There's efforts in China, everywhere else. U.S. it's a little slower, as always. Sam told me there needs to be a global regulatory body like the International Atomic Energy Commission, Reed Hoffman told me he would do the equivalent of a blue ribbon commission to declare a set of outcomes to prioritize and a set to avoid. What's your idea for regulation?”
2023-07-31 · On with Kara Swisher · Vinod Khosla’s View of the Future, From AI to China · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So he says he's earning an. He told me an interview immaterial amount from his initial investment through Y Combinator. Is that a fair statement? Is he not going to be benefiting from this upsurge”
2023-07-31 · On with Kara Swisher · Vinod Khosla’s View of the Future, From AI to China · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“He's trying to catch up. As someone asked me, I said, well, he was early, and then he's late. Now he's late, which is kind of an interesting thing. What's your relationship with open AI now? You're just one of their investors, correct?”
2023-07-31 · On with Kara Swisher · Vinod Khosla’s View of the Future, From AI to China · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And so when he says that, how do you respond? Well, too bad. Now it's too big, right? Is that essentially now it's a thing?”
2023-07-31 · On with Kara Swisher · Vinod Khosla’s View of the Future, From AI to China · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“In order to have the money to do so. Now, Elon, who was the early investor too in the nonprofit, tweeted that OpenA had become, quote, a closed source maximum profit company effectively controlled by Microsoft, not what I intended at all, basically saying it was a bait and switch. He's now today started his own competitor. He's talked about it, made a lot of noise about it. Why is it not a Bait and Switch to go from nonprofit to even of Capped? And what do you think of his new effort?”
2023-07-31 · On with Kara Swisher · Vinod Khosla’s View of the Future, From AI to China · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Within our lifetimes. All right, let's talk about open AI. You were the first VC to invest. People don't realize when the company switched to its so-called capped profit model in 2019. Reid and Elon, Elon Musk and Reid Hoffman were already in there who invested as a nonprofit. Why did you wait in it when you were writing papers about it as early as 2012? What was the weight for your perspective?”
2023-07-31 · On with Kara Swisher · Vinod Khosla’s View of the Future, From AI to China · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Or it's not Right. So what has to happen then if people, like you don't need to exist anymore in the work sense at least.”
2023-07-31 · On with Kara Swisher · Vinod Khosla’s View of the Future, From AI to China · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And so when you think about it that way, that's a profound shift in the way we live, which the US particularly has not been open to. How do you make that shift without it being the farming change was very, we don't remember it, but it was quite difficult from a social perspective. And people were very dissatisfied, to say the least. The same thing's going to happen here. We're already in a politically polarized state.”
2023-07-31 · On with Kara Swisher · Vinod Khosla’s View of the Future, From AI to China · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Okay, one of the things you told Semaphore in 25 years, 80% of all jobs are capable of being done by AI. You called this quote the opportunity to free humanity from the need to work.”
2023-07-31 · On with Kara Swisher · Vinod Khosla’s View of the Future, From AI to China · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Right, so let's talk about that, the future impact. First, healthcare. In 10 years, you have talked about this and you caused quite a bit of controversy when you said it, and I think you were correct at the time of how A will change the experience of medical care.”
2023-07-31 · On with Kara Swisher · Vinod Khosla’s View of the Future, From AI to China · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Which was just down the road, and I visited the two of you. I remember that. A couple of different people I visited, but you were among the first. But I'm going to start talking about, we're going to talk about a lot of things. We're going to talk about AI, geopolitics, climate tech, your tweets. I'm very interested in your latest tweets, Vinote. I'm not sure what's going on. I'd like to hear about it, but we'll get to that at the end. But you are very early to the topic, writing about AI for TechCrunch in 2012. Mustafa Suleiman told me in a recent interview that if you look at the pace of change in AI, it's actually been quite incremental. We've been working on this for decades. It's data in computing power that have grown exponentially in the last few years. I'd love your thoughts about why you started to write about it so early. And are we about to see exponential improvement in AI in the years to come?”
2023-07-31 · On with Kara Swisher · Vinod Khosla’s View of the Future, From AI to China · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“25 years. Yes. Yeah, I think I met you in the 90s when I got out of here in 1996. I think you're one of the first people I called because you were obviously well known for creating all kinds of companies, but then you were inventure capital at the time. I visited two people, you and John Doore, here on Sandhill Road, where you still are. You're still on Sandhill Road.”
2023-07-31 · On with Kara Swisher · Vinod Khosla’s View of the Future, From AI to China · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Add Santill Road, I would say that people, like there's a less globalism in Silicon Valley than I would expect for what has been the frontier creator of technologies. And there's been this kind of like build and they will come philosophy. Someone like Vinaud has an appreciation, I think, of the geopolitics and the role of China and India tech giants and the competition from them as well. Yep, nope, he does. He definitely has much more of a global most people in Silicon Valley just are American, American American. So, you know, and he is too. He's invested in. All right, we'll hear that global perspective when we get back. Let's take a quick break and we'll be back with Finode Kosla.”
2023-07-31 · On with Kara Swisher · Vinod Khosla’s View of the Future, From AI to China · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“We're a little reticent. I really wanted to do it. You did not want to do it. Explain. I have come around. I thought it was a really great interview. And I think he's, I wanted to do sort of, I would rather do a startup person, a new startup person in AI and lean forward. But that's just my tendency. You know, I just think he's a legendary venture capitalist. If we did John Doore, he's in that range of John Dorer and him and several others, Reid Hoffman, I'd say. So we might as well do Binaud too. I thought he was important for two reasons. And one is his early work on climate and AI, which I started writing about AI as early as 2011. He did and seeing it as the next platform after mobile, which was early to that game. And then the second reason I think he's a really interesting character is because of his global view. Having spent time in Silicon Valley, Stanford, it...”
2023-07-31 · On with Kara Swisher · Vinod Khosla’s View of the Future, From AI to China · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“We let it get too big. Well, at the end, he changed his tune quite a bit. He's changed his tune. So let him do it. So our guest today is a longtime venture capitalist, Vino Cosla, someone who's been in the valley forever, I don't know, 40 years. I don't know, a long time. He was a co-founder of Sun Microsystems in the 1980s, a former Kleiner Perkins partner in the 1990s, and then started Coastal Ventures, his own fund in this millennium. And he's also one of your favorite people to battle with on Twitter, Kara. Explain. Yeah, no, I don't battle with him as much. I battle with much different videos, but he's very, you know, I've known him for years, you know, he's been at the forefront of a lot of stuff. He's been very early. He's a genuine techie and a genuine business person and really does think way ahead. He also is also willing to debate, which many of these people, they get to a certain point and they just don't want to be bothered by irritating reporters who may know as much as they do. He's recently been doing a lot more. And we have been talking about doing this interview for a while.”
2023-07-31 · On with Kara Swisher · Vinod Khosla’s View of the Future, From AI to China · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So much we've lionized a lot of these founders and also a lot of these venture capitalists over the years. And Twitter has been a big part of that or X, whatever it is, but has been a big part of it, boosting the voices of these people. Yeah. Senator Warren and Graham did have a piece in The New York Times last week saying when it comes to Big Tough and Up is enough. I think that's probably, I just don't think it's going to pass. That's all, you know, there's not a taste for new agencies. But I think they're right. I think this one line, nobody elected big tech executives to govern anything, let alone the entire digital world of democracy means anything. It means leaders on both sides of the aisle must take responsibility for protecting the free American people, ever changing whims of these powerful companies. They're unaccountable CEOs. I think that's absolutely right. And Barack Obama said a similar thing. Tech is not going to solve our problems or the really hard ones. They just leave us the hard ones and then they take all the good stuff. But with President Obama, one of the critiques that he's had from many people, including yourself and myself, is like, well,”
2023-07-31 · On with Kara Swisher · Vinod Khosla’s View of the Future, From AI to China · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“To day basis. We'll see if it passes. In many ways, like when I think about your reporting over decades and you talk about the bigness and the power and the lobbying power, the power of consumers that companies have strikes me that it's a history of capitalism in America. But do you think it's something very endemic to tech that it... No, they're just like regular capitalists and they deserve regular regulators. That's all. They're not special by any means and they're just always trying to make money and they have more power than, well, I mean, the railroads have power, right? And then they didn't. The television industry was, they're all consolidated. So there's all kinds of versions of this, but they're more powerful. And we live in an age where just the distribution mechanism is that they are celebrated.”
2023-07-31 · On with Kara Swisher · Vinod Khosla’s View of the Future, From AI to China · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“These license fees will become very hard for smaller companies to do so, and that the ability of a company like OpenAI to get so big begs the question of like bigness, which is this unlikely alliance of Elizabeth Warren and Lindsay Graham. Yeah, I know. The pair, the two pair you want to go out to dinner with to go have some fun. No, they're getting together to try to do a number of things, including create an agency around tech, which I think is an interesting idea. It's something I've thought of a lot every other industry, whether it's Wall Street or whoever has agencies around them, FDA, FTC, every other major industry has agencies attached to it and tech does not. So the question is, should there be a separate agency dealing with algorithms and AI and privacy and things like that? And right now the FTC does that and the Justice Department to an extent, but it's all based on enforcement and lawsuits. And so maybe there should be someone who's more regulatory on a daily basis.”
2023-07-31 · On with Kara Swisher · Vinod Khosla’s View of the Future, From AI to China · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Silverman, and there's more to come. People like Barry Diller, I think, are threatened to sue AI companies. So I think people are thinking about not letting it happen again when it happened with the first round of tech taking over everything. And the Sarah Silverman case is really interesting because her argument is basically like, look, my jokes are being ripped off. Copyright. It's a copyright case and it's a very, it's not unsimilar to when Biacom sued YouTube. But in this case, it's more significant because they're mashing up other people's, it's plagiarism. I don't put it. I keep saying that. Remember, I was talking about copyright being the most important legal thing. And I think that there will be a lot of that in these companies, OpenII just licensed AP stuff. So there's a lot going to be happening here. This is the very interesting thing because OpenAI haven't gotten out ahead of the gate and having a first mover advantage means that they have actual customers' revenues, et cetera, that can support their paying licenses. Yeah. Subscription. Yes. As a result, they're able to build a bit of a mode around them. They're able to afford.”
2023-07-31 · On with Kara Swisher · Vinod Khosla’s View of the Future, From AI to China · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Hi everyone from New York Magazine and the Vox Media Podcast Network. This is Kendall Roy pitching you the XEverything app. Just kidding, this is on with Kara Swisher and I'm Kara Swisher. And I'm Name Araza and I'm back. Yes, you are. So much has happened in the tech world. There's always something. No cage match. Well, that was never going to happen. Besides you and Vino Kosla, which we'll get to in a bit our episode today. Yeah. But the rebranding of Twitter to X. Yeah. A rebrand more mocked than metas. The announcements around Elon's separate company, XAI, and also increased regulatory scrutiny from Washington on a couple of fronts, on monopolies and on AI. Yeah, absolutely. Washington's getting it together on AI more quickly than before than anything else. And there is a series of legislation happening around tech. We'll see if it goes anywhere. It never has before, but it's encouraging that it's early and there's a series of lawsuits, whether it's Sarah.”
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