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Viswanathan Anand

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“Morgan Nedley is very good. There's some nice UDP joins. There's Matsya. You can try that. We go to the whole Dasa chain as well. There used to be something called Dasa Prakarsho. That's nice. Well, for me, it's almost a childhood thing. Literally, that's how we used to snack when they were. And besides that, someplace with a good Tali gives you, I think, a good sampling of everything in both South Indian and Indian cuisine.”
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“You should go to some of these UTP homes and we have some places where they serve traditional South Indian breakfast. I think that, and not in the bigger places.”
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“That they don't have this dip of being annoyed with themselves about the position and therefore their performance goes down. But the chess quality is I think I look for first. If not, I wonder, well, they don't have this. They possibly bring to the table that compensates for it. And then I realize, ah, they have these other sporting qualities, maybe even their fitness, their ability to hang in there, things like that.”
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“They're very young. I want to see a certain amount of fanaticism. Fanatism is good when you're In your teens, but quite a few of them have that. I think maturity is maybe the most important thing because Pragnananda and Gokesh have taken some horrible blows. But what I've realized is that they're quite strong. In a way that I'm amazed. Maybe because for me, losing hurt so much more, I can no longer understand people who are relaxed about losing. And maybe I was once more relaxed, I don't know. But Pragen Gukesh both have taken some of the tough times recently quite well and come out of it. Now they're both going gangbusters and that's great, but they've had difficult times as well. And there are things I look for in the chessboard, just a sense that they understand a lot of stuff without having to, just like I mentioned earlier, they know where the pieces go. And if I look at their games, I can quickly get a sense of which area they focus in. I mean, some of them have no understanding of chess at all, but they have amazing sporting qualities, which is that they're tenacious, they're able to keep resisting.”
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“I'm sort of good in games, and lots of these games you play just for fun. Immediately, I find that I start at an acceptable level. So maybe there is some skill there, but I have not thought about it that much.”
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“I think the ability is it cognitive, the ability to pull out details from a mass of information that I've seen. So in chess we may see a thousand games from this. And then at the board, I may be able to distill the right idea from all that. So being able to extract useful ideas from a lot of information. Also good visual intelligence just in chess. The only skill which a top chess player has to have really is the sense that something is going wrong. And that's a visual thing because with very few details you suddenly think I feel uncomfortable. There's something wrong here. That's one of the most important skills you can have in chess. And besides probably just the usual mix, a bit of memory, good memory at least for things that I'm interested in. Ability to focus on one thing and keep at it.”
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“Yeah, well, he became an economist, but recently, maybe seven, eight years ago, somebody asked him, so what's it like thinking about chess again because he had come to a chess tournament? He said, but I never stopped thinking about it. And for me, that was strange because I would assume that after five years it drops way below, but apparently he kept at it all that time. He would think about chess every day.”
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“They're very happy. They understand that they're able to be chess players. They can have a pretty good life doing so. So just like anybody who finds that they're doing what they wanted to do, what they would be doing anyway, even under worse circumstances, but they're able to do it in a pretty nice way and challenging way. Then we understand their privilege. In fact, the funny thing is how many chess players are happy, even not being top players, because they... Is again one of these callings you find yourself in it, and you really enjoyed it. It's very hard for a chess player to quit and switch to something else. They always have this time lag. I was quite surprised to see when Kenneth Rogoff”
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“No, he is completely right. A is completely right. I think sanity is being able to show the world that you are saying even when you're insane. And therefore, I'm Levin.”
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“At least that I know of a couple of years ago, I know people say, But how are you such a good loser? And I'd say, I'm not a good loser, I'm a good actor. I know how to stay composed in public. I can even pretend for five minutes, but I can only do it for five minutes because I know that once the press conference is over, once I can finish talking to you, I can go back to my room and hit my head against the wall because that's what I'm longing to do now. And in fact, it's gotten even worse because as you get on you think I should have known that I should have known that. I should have known not to do that. What is the point of doing this a thousand times and not learning anything? You get angry with yourself much more. So I hate losing much more even than before, I think.”
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“It seems he isn't even close to me, but I admit I can't see him from the inside and he probably can't see me from the inside. When I lose, I can't imagine anyone in the world who loses as badly as I do inside.”
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“Tournaments that I play. So when I play these rapid and blitzes and I have these one or two events in the year, I try to four or five months before leading up to them. I start training again. Just to get back in this frame of mind where it's just is not just some philosophical thing where you can do this and you can do that. It's concrete moves like MVL said. And the most important skill in chess is if I was sitting at a board now with the clock ticking, what would I make in this position? And then suddenly the infinite variety of choices you have becomes irrelevant. You have to make only one move. And how do you switch to that frame of mind? I try to stick there. But I really love analyzing and working on chess. And maybe even just like for Hikaru, having something else fill part of your life allows you to come back to chess with much more enthusiasm. These long breaks, then when I get back to chess, I'm much more enthusiastic about playing and I look forward to it. So that might be a huge fact as well.”
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“I like playing chess. A couple of years ago, I decided to that maybe playing full time, playing the whole year round and trying to compete at the highest level wasn't worth it in terms of the amount of time and effort I would have to put in for the results I expected. So I decided to semi-retire. A decision made easy in the pandemic because everyone was semi-retired in the pandemic. But the key thing was not to come back after the pandemic was over. So I played a little bit here and there whenever I could because I still like playing and I like, for me chest tournaments are primarily social events where you meet everyone and you hang out with everyone again. So when I did all that, I enjoyed myself and then I'll say, okay, now for four months I'm not going to play anything, much longer break than before. Also, I'm living in India more or less the whole time when I'm not playing, so that changed a lot. Some of it is family. My son is growing up, so you also want to prioritize what you're doing with your time and so on. But I really enjoy the”
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“No, none at all. But even when Fisher played H3, people thought, what the hell is this? And then they said, oh, but Fisher did it, it's okay. So you need a stamp of approval, and the computer is now the newest stamp of approval. Rook G1, by the way, predates alpha zero, and it predates modern engines. We're talking at least 15, 20 years. Bishop D2 on Move 6, that is such nonsense. Even when the computers are running, I think this is nonsense. The fact that it doesn't lose on the spot tells me that especially with a computer, it doesn't lose on the spot, tells me nothing, but this is nonsense. But there are people who play it and then next thing you know there's theory building up.”
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“20 years ago, these moves would have been considered betraying the complete lack of NHS education. Now it's not there. So everything we used to think was bad. We forced to evaluate move by move. Some of them will turn out to be bad, many of them won't. You just have to know specific reasons and you'll just have to get into the details. So he's right about that. I think that's probably the cry from a person who's having to prepare this stuff all the time. But anyway, he's right, I think. Just nowadays it's about finding out exceptions to everything. And that's where a lot of the growth is a chess player because all of us, we are hardwired to think these things are good, these things are bad. But imagine that you now have to wander in the field of everything you thought was bad and realize that half of it might be good. That's kind of where we see ourselves now.”
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“That's a broader trend. I don't even know if it starts with alpha zero, but maybe that's where it became the most visible. But he's right. There are no general principles anymore. In fact, new general principles emerge. Nowadays we push the H and A pons so whenever we want. And it's not a bad move.”
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“I can imagine being a streamer now very easily, but what I don't see myself doing is spending all night. Also, I don't feel like playing that much blitz. I always tell myself I should do a bit more, but in the end the body just doesn't get up and then that's it. You just don't go there. I easily see myself trying streaming or something, but it's a question of how long you want to invest in it. I mean, again, success in not going to come very fast. There's a lot of crocodiles already in that watering hole. You'll have to spend quite some time do stuff daily and things like that. So it's a big time commitment is what I'm trying to say. So I could very easily see myself doing it. And I've done versions of it over the last couple of years. I did a lot of online coaching, lots of my talks that I used to give for companies. I do online as well nowadays. So I've done versions of it. I could see myself doing that. Especially commentary, how difficult is it instead of going to a tournament and doing commentary from there?”
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“Test every concept a million times practicing over the board. And that's why he's so good at it. And that's why all the best players now are playing these online blitz events. You can put me on the spot in saying, well, if you think that's the case, why aren't you doing it? I haven't gotten around. I do some training online, but I don't feel like sitting from midnight till 3 in the morning playing online blitz these Tuesday events and so on.”
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“Don't think the streaming helps him become a better player, but what it has done is it's taken a lot of pressure off him. He really felt he had only one way to show who he was, and that was the chessboard. And now he suddenly realizes, I've got this other method where people appreciate me and cheer me. In fact, many years ago in 2011 in Tata Steel, he made a winner speech. And I was kind of surprised the way he said, it's so wonderful to be in Holland, we're appreciated for our chess in the US nobody would care or something like that. And he did this as the winner in the closing speech. And I thought, well, quite a strange thing to say. But if you keep that thought in the background, now he's got the adulation he wants. In fact, he seems to crave it. He goes back and does a recap every day and things like that. He really seems to want it. What I think is helping him is playing blitz tournaments nonstop online. That allows him to keep there. And it might be the best way to train for a modern computerized opening preparation era where there's so little to do with preparation because the computer solves everything.”
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“and they are actually following the game now whereas before they would follow it once in a while now they actually have an impact and you sense it in the numbers thanks to them i think they may not have result attachment to classical chess they may also not know who kapapa blanka was and when that is felt in the sport then the sport will inevitably cater to their tastes more and more but i don't think that classical chess will disappear it's just that it used to be 100 of chess then for the last couple of decades it's been about 80 of chess now i would say it's closer to 30-40 percent of chess which leaves the other variants fighting with 60 percent the other time controls fighting with 60 percent and it's a question of the mix there will always be some role for having a lot of time to think and find interesting stuff but all the time it's very hard especially given modern preparation”
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“I wouldn't roll it out. I wouldn't roll it out, but I feel that Classical would still exist. It's just public taste would have moved along. And the same could be said for Blitz, if you want. And we're also dealing now with, thanks to the revolution of the last five or six years, which in general I mean what happened with the Queen's cambit, what happened in the last couple of years, which is that maybe the number of people who are casual fans of chess are far greater than serious fans of chess.”
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“So you can have ponds moving sideways, ponds capturing straight and moving diagonally. You can have every which variant you want, you program it into the computer and let it play a million games and see what pops out. So this may be a solution for the distant future, but for the moment, just looks healthy enough, especially if you vary. People who have played too much classic chess have a round of faster controls. And then when you run too many faster controls, you go back to classical. And if you keep varying like this, that's one thing that keeps the game moving along. The second thing that works very well is, for instance, what they do in Tata Stale, which is to have a mixed field. Not all super prepared top GMs, but a mixture of very young, courageous juniors with top GMs. You have that mix. That also leads to a lot of unpredictability. So if you keep moving around, you change the format, change the variant, change the time control, change this, change that, you just keep shuffling. We can go on.”
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“This is completely new territory, and there's a lot of scope for creativity and everything we used to look for. It's a variant with a lot of promise. Maybe the one just plays the most comfortable with. However, in the meantime, I have played no castling a few times. That turns out to be fascinating. The first time I sat with my computer and I had to play Knight F3 rook g1 and repeat it four corners, all four rooks and knights so that White couldn't castle anymore and then switch on the engine and analyze openings like this. And I realized that almost every opening can be re-evaluated if you're King Khan Castle. And so everywhere the right plant turns out to be H4, H5, H4 thing, except the ones where it's not. And there are no general rules yet, or we have not come that far. So we find every little detail. Now there are lots of other versions that are coming up. And you can versions you can have as many as you dream of.”
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“Fisher random actually has a brilliant future because it's a form of chess which has not been understood at all. However, with this thing, Fisherandom was conceived as a way of avoiding opening theory. Later on people rediscovered it as a way of avoiding computers. Now we realize we are not avoiding computers at all. They're just as good at Fisherandom or no castling as they are at chess.”
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“And so recently Fabiano started playing head six in the Kings in the Classical Kings Indian. And the beauty of that is it's not quite refutable. It's got just enough life to drag on for a while and people come to parts of the King's Indian that they like. So the King's Indian, there are lines that you find difficult to play. But if you come in from a Grundfeld move order and White does something against Anti-Grundfeld and you swing from there back to the King's Indian or you come from a Benonimo order and you get into the King's Indian or even you put the bishop on E7 and rotate it this way, that way, King's Indian concepts turn out to be very dynamic and healthy, even if you're not getting to it in the same structured opening. So Kings Indian players have found a way to get the King's Indian fix for the week without having to go down the old main line. And that's how it goes. But computers will contradict themselves every couple of years. So maybe the pendulum will have...”
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“No, I mean there was a time maybe five, six years ago when the King's Indian just looked lost because the computer always said it was lost. And recently, maybe even a year ago, the computer said, no, I confirm it's dead lost. But people have always sensed that there's something fundamentally unsound about the King's Indian, but we couldn't quite prove it. And that was why people are going on. You know the famous quote of Kochnai, right? He said, he told Aaron Pikett that King's Indian is not an opening. It's a disease. And so he was basically, he had it right all along”
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“It's a lot of it cycling. At some point, I don't remember maybe five or six years ago, there was a kind of individualistic collective sense that maybe the Rhylopus is neglected territory, virgin territory. Let's go back there and try there because Italian and the Giocopiano, my God, is nothing left to find. And then we do, everybody goes after the Railopus for a year. And suddenly a couple of guys say, let's look at the Italian again and you think, ah, there are a few things we haven't picked up on. So you swing back there. And it goes like this, but it's an arms race and we're not winning.”
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“Stuff. On the other hand, it's one of the great joys in chess research is to come to an opening that you've not seen in five years. And that first day, you're discovering everything new. Every single line you refute and clean up and you feel like you've cleaned your entire house of clutter and you feel wonderful. So it's a double-edged sword. I will concede that, but it's a pain in the neck when you want to rely on something.”
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“And he went for the one line where H3 turns out to be a disadvantage. That's very hard to nail down. You have to get quite deep into it. Mostly that works. But yes, even with that qualification, the opening preparation everywhere is just building up and up. There are lines I neglect for six months and then I come back to them and I realize my God I have to update everything. I'm not sure of anything, any of this preparation anymore. The problem in preparation is not whether it's detailed. The problem is whether you can believe in it. And if you have not checked it 100%, it's worthless. I mean, and it's like a 99% guarantee before you go to the operation. You want to have 100% guarantee, right? So it's 99% is simply not good enough. And that's the problem with opening preparation as well. The computer allows you to question everything, every new version, every new program, every new piece of hardware. Each one of those things can drive it. So every six months or a year, you have to start all over again cleaning.”
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“Some lines will go that far, but equally you can use the computer to solve the problem that the computer has created, which is that if you take a single line and you go, you can go very far. But you can also deviate at an earlier and earlier stage. And you can have it running on 20 lines and you go for line number 17 and you think and you'll find that you're not able to work it out just as thoroughly you need time to do it. And before you do that, you move to the next one. So no one's quite able to nail every possibility. You can always surprise someone. We saw this with Ding recently and Aponishi. He actually went H3 in one position. But it was a mistake. Surprise backfired because Jan seemed to know exactly which line to play.”
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“Yeah, but for me, I rate them perfectly highly. But I have this habit of listening to my four or five favorite songs in an album and kind of ignoring the ones I don't like. My son is more disciplined in that way. He'll actually listen to the whole album. So he asked me questions about songs. Some I'll be. I'll give him two-hour descriptions. Other ones I'll say, you know, I've never heard.”
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“Yes, I've heard Bohemian Rhapsody as well, and my problem is my son recently discovered Queen, so we listened to it again almost in overdrive. I don't think I have an underrated Queen song. I'm aware that there might be songs that are all underrated.”
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“Mention the warriors. Maybe I have just watched it way too much, but this hotel inspector is great. The health inspector is good. And what I love is this blind, well, this deaf old lady who comes by and complains about everything. And he says, what were you expecting from a hotel when I'm talking? And also the lovely thing, yes, madam, that's the sea. It's between the land and the sky. It's perfect stuff.”
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“I'll tell you the first time I was staying with, I visited the Indian Consul General in The Hague. And he invited me to stay for lunch because he's also from Chennai. So he invited me to stay for lunch. So I said, well, that's very nice. Thank you. I'll stay. Either before we were about to have lunch or about or after we had lunch, he said, okay, I'll put a cassette in and it was faulty to us. And I started watching. At first I didn't understand the humor at all. I wasn't even that familiar with Monty Python then, so it gives you an idea. But the humor seems strange. And then there's always one situation which is so absurd that you just can't stop laughing. And at some point, I was laughing, but like a person who could not stop. And I was choking almost. And that's when I knew.”
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“Yeah, now that I missed, but those were nice. And also the Yorkshireman, these guys all talking about how poor they were in their childhood. Yes, that's fantastic. I love the idea of a cardboard box in the highway.”
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“Do you think that method could be refined and you could apply it systematically? But if it did, nobody would have slumps anymore in form. So there is something clearly that we can't quite pick up on. It's a kind of staleness that gets into your game. It's probably an accumulation that if you're doing too well for too long, others have been working nonstop, trying to understand you. And at some point, without you or them realizing it, the gap is closed. And then you're encountering more resistance. You're doing what worked perfectly before, but you're encountering more resistance you can't see why. And the opponents don't understand why they are not losing, but they suddenly think, hey, this worked out better for me. And somehow the gap closes and the time has come for you to move on, try something else, bring some fresh perspective.”
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“It's very hard to explain. I mean, if you could even see it coming. Could start to think about it. But my feeling is it catches most people off guard. They repeat a recipe, probably too long It's not like anybody else potted it coming. Suddenly, notice hey, he's not winning after one or two tournaments, you think, he's not winning quite as much as he used to, didn't he? And then you take a look and you realize that slowly some resistance has built up in his games, resistance to the free flow, the worst natural flow. But it's very hard to see it coming. And then when you're stuck in it, it's very hard to see how to get out of it. And in most cases, at least in my experience, the way to get out of it is to... Stop thinking about how to solve it and almost lighten yourself and get back to playing a normal game for normal reasons.”
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“Surprisingly, how distracted we are during a match, even in very critical moments, I'll be thinking out I can have a dinner, what I should have done yesterday, that I met that jerk yesterday, and this kind of stuff. And your brain wanders off and it's almost like taking your foot off the gas. Your brain wants to wander off for a while, you let it and then you come back or you keep one part focused on what's happening. But while the opponent is thinking, you can wander off. Whenever somebody tells me, I don't know how you concentrate for seven hours, I understand that they don't know how we play chess or that they haven't played chess themselves because we do not concentrate for seven hours. Very few people do it. And I would think even they, the brain simply says it goes on strike periodically and then comes back. So I think that's how it works.”
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“Perhaps others are able to do it. I would think the maximum level you could do it at is to choose the kind of opening which favors you the most intuitively and say from what I know of my opponent, this is the position where he's fidgeting uncomfortably in his chair. And once you've chosen the opening, you hope that, well, that insight actually plays out. But at least for me, I've never been able to target much more. Like I just said, when I was playing Topala, I used my insight into say, well, these openings will work for me and he'll get impatient. He'll try to do something active, maybe I can punish him. But once I've done that, the rest are just long lines and I can't use that insight anymore within the games. You'll have flashes of this at most, but chess is actually mostly a long variations.”
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“Don't get down to that level of detail. If I was playing a match, I could try to incorporate that in my approach. But so much of chess is just getting the opening right, the moves right, the concepts right, that you don't have time to micro-target like that. It just doesn't work. And you're more for me.”
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“And there are players who approach us in a more systematic way. And they are the ones who tend to find exceptional ideas and things like that because of the way they don't roll out stuff just on dogmatic grounds or something like that. But we are talking very small differences. I think that one is understanding is much closer to, let's say, Carlson's than thing. But yes, his approach is to calculate everything and look for very specific solutions. Carlson's, as he says, hand will make the move. You just know where the pieces go. And then you don't need the details.”
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“Very much. It's just the way your brain processes thoughts. So some people fill in the gaps intuitively. When the pieces feel right, when the broad picture looks right, the answers will come to you and your guided more by the sense of what is good and not. Of course, Karvana does it as well, but to a lower degree. So he calculates a lot more to fill in the gaps. And therefore Karvana is a lot better at finding exceptions. The natural players miss exceptions because what looks good to them, well, they happen to stumble on the one position or what looks good isn't good. And it hurts them. Karwana tends to miss that less often because he's not, in fact, Karwana's approach, you could almost exaggerate and say it's closer to a computer than many other humans. Of course, he's 1% of the way closer, but it doesn't matter.”
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“And there is one more detail, if you like, which is that here I have to play this. It wins. It's the only move which doesn't lose, but it also wins.”
2023-08-30 · Conversations with Tyler · Vishy Anand on Staying in the Game · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Maybe even I'm But the beauty This move was slightly easier to find because seven years ago Kramnik had allowed Queen hit seven against Fritz mate. And Kramnik, and pretty much everyone said there is nowhere I would have allowed queen at 7 if the knight had been on f6. Because to a human, immediately it signals danger all over the place. But a knight on F8, you almost forget it's there. Whereas for a computer, it sees that both moves allow queen at 7. So at some point I realized, oh my God, queen at seven, well, that would spoil a very nice position. Then by elimination, again, I could play F5. And once again, all the dots can be.”
2023-08-30 · Conversations with Tyler · Vishy Anand on Staying in the Game · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“F5 is fantastic because for a dangerously long time and later on you shudder and you realize what you could have done for quite some time I consider this move.”
2023-08-30 · Conversations with Tyler · Vishy Anand on Staying in the Game · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Roughly speaking, this was Rottlavi Rubenstein with the night here. It's a classic game in Jess history. And so I knew the patterns and all the details check out. So one separate night day five, the rest came pretty fast. There was only one more thing I had to find King H1 Knight takes G4. Again, every mogue loses except what he did.”
2023-08-30 · Conversations with Tyler · Vishy Anand on Staying in the Game · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“One C plate B2, everything else filled itself and I flooded in. And of course the big advantage was by now Rottlavi Robenstein was coming into my head. I knew what happens. Well, we will get the structure a bit later, but I knew what happens when you get this bishop all pointing in this direction.”
2023-08-30 · Conversations with Tyler · Vishy Anand on Staying in the Game · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Anyway, after bishop e2, the rest played itself. For me, bishop C, if I took 25 minutes, I don't remember 95 might have taken me 5 minutes, but more because I was double checking rather than anything. But this came effortlessly. Because already we are talking of this night has to support this one. The queen and bishop are going to flood into d4. Knight F2 check is going to win. All these little dots. So while this is maybe the most spectacular move. It's the less difficult mode to find, especially once you have done this So, now if you ask me before I saw bishop c5, did I see knight day 5? I did not even see bishop E2. I was more focused on the main thing. I didn't see bishop E2.”
2023-08-30 · Conversations with Tyler · Vishy Anand on Staying in the Game · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“That was a thing. So, I will tell you I played bishop c5 because if I takes I take, he captures here, then my dream, my vision whatever is check and night captures day 3 and then that knight which pops into day works. So that's all I had to reconstruct but it is beautiful that with very little I was able to reconstruct it. Now I went here Aronian was a bit shocked. Because he had not given it a lot of attention. But it was very courageous on him his part to even get here because I had prepared this for a match against Gelfand and the guy lets me and basically says show me what you got. Show me what you and your team spent a month on. It's brave, but it's also kind of irresponsible. I mean, unless you have checked it yourself very thoroughly, so he seems to be in slightly flippant about it.”
2023-08-30 · Conversations with Tyler · Vishy Anand on Staying in the Game · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“In my head, I suddenly some variation flashed where I had a knight on D3. I couldn't for the life of me connect it, but I started to look is there something, there are obvious moves anyway, I can do this trying to get to detail. I can play if I'm all based on the same ideas in the game, but none of them seem to work. This one is too slow, he takes and he is thinking. This one, I mean he'll allow me to take and recapture it. So what's the deal? Eventually by elimination, I realized it must be Bishop C5, there's nothing else. But once I started to look at Bishop C5, it started to look good to me, and then it closes very fast. It's finding out 80% of the map, then the rest fills in very fast. It gets accelerated.”
2023-08-30 · Conversations with Tyler · Vishy Anand on Staying in the Game · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source