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“Yes, you're right, and we will. We want peace, you know? I mean, just to make it clear, we want peace. Just what I always say. You have to come to Ukraine and see for yourself, and people will tell you, no, we can't forgive. Those murderers who took our. Our lives. But we still want to make peace. And honestly, I think that the highest approval rating of the president of the United States of Trump now Is in Ukraine People really believe that he can truly help bring peace now they have faith. That he can make it happen, that he can support Ukraine, and he can stop Putin, and that he will make sure Putin doesn't get everything he wants. This is very important, and it's why we believe that we must not lose this opportunity.”
2025-01-06 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #456 – Volodymyr Zelenskyy: Ukraine, War, Peace, Putin, Trump, NATO, and Freedom · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yes, it's so important, and they will come and we will recover and rebuild Ukraine. We will be very open to companies, and of course, we will welcome our people back. It's so important culturally. Think the most important thing is to remain open and not change our direction because culturally aligning with Russia, it's one idea while aligning with Europe is another. Our people have chosen Europe. It's their choice. It's our choice, the choice of our nation, and I think it's very important.”
2025-01-06 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #456 – Volodymyr Zelenskyy: Ukraine, War, Peace, Putin, Trump, NATO, and Freedom · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“The largest in Europe, by the way, which is also very important. For example, Russia has pushed France out of Africa. They urgently need uranium, which we have, so we are ready to open up for investments. And this will give us, of course, opportunities, jobs for people, revenue. I don't want cheap labor, honestly. What I truly want, especially after the war, to open up for those people who can really contribute and earn. Yes.”
2025-01-06 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #456 – Volodymyr Zelenskyy: Ukraine, War, Peace, Putin, Trump, NATO, and Freedom · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Businesses to return. A lot of support will come, I think, from USA, business investment, not as direct aid to us, just to the private sector and resources, and I mention this to President Trump and to some European leaders who are our key strategic partners that will be happy, especially with the Americans, will be happy to sign these contracts and engage in joint investments in many areas. And I think we can develop oil, gas, green energy, including solar power. And we already have the resources. We can invest money into this. We have oil reserves in the Black Sea that we can exploit. And we need your expertise and the investment of your companies. We have gold and uranium reserves.”
2025-01-06 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #456 – Volodymyr Zelenskyy: Ukraine, War, Peace, Putin, Trump, NATO, and Freedom · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Digital? It's very important, digitalization of all the process. We began this work. We have special ministry of digital transformation. Yeah, so this is very good, and we also have our DIA. This is the name for all of these services. Yeah. So I think that is the most important. This is, again, this is not only convenient that will cancel all any possibilities for future corruption because you don't have any personal connections with people in the government or elsewhere. So you're just on your phone or any other device. That's it. And I think we are doing very well. We are the best in Europe. All of Europe recognizes it. Some countries of the African Union asked us to provide this the same service. And we will do it after the war immediately. And I think that we can bring money to Ukraine from this. And I think what we also need, we need a tax reform. I think it will be very important for the business.”
2025-01-06 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #456 – Volodymyr Zelenskyy: Ukraine, War, Peace, Putin, Trump, NATO, and Freedom · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I view it more as a system. No one can control the president. Therefore, we have oligarchs who either fled or are in prison because oligarchs usually control cash flows and people and influence politics. And we have concrete examples with sentences. They are not just under house arrest. Not just that there are some judgments under which their assets were frozen or sanctions were imposed. There are specific people who are behind bars. I think this is the answer regarding the influence. Would they like to influence me in the same way as any president of Ukraine? Because finance and cash flows always influence politics? Well, at least they want to do this. This is regarding the influence. And other people on the vertical day. As my managers, Andri, you mentioned, is one of those managers. Well, I am glad that”
2025-01-06 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #456 – Volodymyr Zelenskyy: Ukraine, War, Peace, Putin, Trump, NATO, and Freedom · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And I believe that this is the most important thing. There is no person who could control me as I once told President Trump when we had a meeting, by the way, journalists asked if Trump influenced me during the phone call. I told him, I told the journalists the truth then, who can influence me? Only my boy, my son. This is a fact. When he calls asking for something, well, then I lift up my arms. Yes, and I cannot do anything about it because children are children. I have so little time with them, and therefore when there are these moments, they are precious and important to me. I am ready to do anything. Also, probably my parents. They are an authority for me. Beyond that”
2025-01-06 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #456 – Volodymyr Zelenskyy: Ukraine, War, Peace, Putin, Trump, NATO, and Freedom · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I And it is indeed true. I'm generally difficult to deal with. An ambitious person. I can't submit to anyone. I can live by rules, by laws, I believe that this is the only thing that can control any person today. These are the rules and laws. Of the society or state where you live.”
2025-01-06 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #456 – Volodymyr Zelenskyy: Ukraine, War, Peace, Putin, Trump, NATO, and Freedom · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I think, yes, it was before the war. I had a meeting, yes, with President Trump. It was in 2019. I just wanted to go for a run early in the morning because I really wanted to exercise. And they, those tall bodyguards, a lot of them, they decided to join me, but I couldn't really do it because they were in suits. And I was in sportswear. I said, no, I can't. It's always funny. I'm not. I don't want to, you know. I don't want to disturb anybody and cause anyone problems with me. And that's why if he will invite me”
2025-01-06 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #456 – Volodymyr Zelenskyy: Ukraine, War, Peace, Putin, Trump, NATO, and Freedom · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Oh, wait. Look, look, look. Listen, I am against any bureaucracy. I get rid of it as much as I can. But well. There are some complexities involving security. I decide and I fly. And the United States of America officially provides security. Not that I need this, mind you. I do not ask for helicopters to fly around and protect me, but they will simply do it themselves, the security service itself. They had to do it. I don't want it, and sometimes I don't need it, and I'm asking them it was, for example, before the war.”
2025-01-06 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #456 – Volodymyr Zelenskyy: Ukraine, War, Peace, Putin, Trump, NATO, and Freedom · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I would like to, of course. I will be considering What is happening then in the war? Because there are moments of difficulties, escalation, many missiles, etc. But honestly, well, I can't. I can't come, especially during the war unless President Trump invites me personally. I'm not sure it's proper to come because I know that in general leaders are, for some reason, not usually invited, to the inauguration of precedents. The United States of America. Well, and I know that there are leaders who can simply come want to come, and will come. Yeah, I know. And I know the temperament of some of these people, they can come at their discretion. This is very, very difficult for me. I am the kind of person that cannot come without an invitation. This is Putin. We did not invite him. He came to us, so to say. And me? I can't do that”
2025-01-06 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #456 – Volodymyr Zelenskyy: Ukraine, War, Peace, Putin, Trump, NATO, and Freedom · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“But there will be a moment, and Trump, by the way, I think that the war will end, and President Trump. May be the first leader to travel here by airplane. I think it would be symbolic by airplane.”
2025-01-06 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #456 – Volodymyr Zelenskyy: Ukraine, War, Peace, Putin, Trump, NATO, and Freedom · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yes, I am I am looking forward to it. Maybe we will open it but only, and you must understand if the war is over, there must be sustainable peace, and air defense systems, to be honest. And we must ensure that they are long lasting and effective. Let's take the airport, for example, and let's focus on the airport in Jesho, which you know very well as it is handling, important cargo for Ukraine in Poland, and there are patriot systems there because everyone understands what the risk is. Well, Russia is a risk, and therefore we need air defense systems. And today, today take, for example, the air defense system. Of one city or another that is being shelled and move it, move it to the airport. Well, that would be dishonest. People are more important than planes.”
2025-01-06 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #456 – Volodymyr Zelenskyy: Ukraine, War, Peace, Putin, Trump, NATO, and Freedom · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“We are very grateful for Starlink. It has helped. We used it after Russian missile attacks on the energy infrastructure. There were problems with the Internet, etc. with connection. We used Starling both at the front and in kindergartens it was used in schools. It helped children. We used it in various infrastructure and it helped us very much. And I would very much like Elon to be on our side as much as possible to support us. And yes, I am grateful to him for Starlink. Truly I am. First of all, So that our guys have a connection and children too. And I am really grateful to him for that. I think we need, I would like him to come to Ukraine to talk to people here. And to look around, and so on.”
2025-01-06 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #456 – Volodymyr Zelenskyy: Ukraine, War, Peace, Putin, Trump, NATO, and Freedom · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“You know, no one and nothing fell into their lap, but the man did something, did it all himself, I worked myself, created a big production company, and I know what it means to make money, to make money, to select talented people, to impart knowledge to them, to invest money, and to create something, something important for certain people, you know. And I'm not comparing myself to Musk. He just, well, The man is a great leader of innovations in the world. And I believe that such people move the world forward. Therefore, I respect the result of his work. We see this result. And for me, it has always been important that your result can be used, that these are not words, but facts. Let's take the war.”
2025-01-06 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #456 – Volodymyr Zelenskyy: Ukraine, War, Peace, Putin, Trump, NATO, and Freedom · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“First of all, I had a conversation with him at the beginning of the war. I talked with him I respect him first and foremost. I respect the self-made man, right? In English, I love such people”
2025-01-06 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #456 – Volodymyr Zelenskyy: Ukraine, War, Peace, Putin, Trump, NATO, and Freedom · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And yet we have to provide proof to defend ourselves. Because when there's an abundance of such misinformation, distrust starts to grow. And you're right, people listen to various media outlets. See this and lose faith in you. In the end, you lose trust, and with it you lose support. Therefore, believe me, we are fighting more against disinformation than against particular cases, although I still emphasize once again at the everyday level such things are still important. We catch these people and we fight them.”
2025-01-06 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #456 – Volodymyr Zelenskyy: Ukraine, War, Peace, Putin, Trump, NATO, and Freedom · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“In most cases, we did not receive money, we received weapons. And where we saw risks that something could be a weapon, we would slap everyone on the wrist. And believe me, this is not only about Ukraine, on the supply chain. Everywhere there are some or other. People and companies who want to make money because everyone makes money on the war, we did not profit from the war. If we found someone, believe me, we slapped everyone on the wrist. And we did that. We did that. And we will continue to do so because to this day, when someone says that Ukraine was selling weapons, and by the way, Russia was the one pushing this narrative. We always responded. Our soldiers would kill such people with their own hands, without any trial. Do you honestly think anyone could steal weapons by the truckload when we ourselves don't have enough on the front lines?”
2025-01-06 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #456 – Volodymyr Zelenskyy: Ukraine, War, Peace, Putin, Trump, NATO, and Freedom · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“The lobbying for such decisions involves some companies that make these decisions. But I can't be open about it and I couldn't speak loudly about it. I didn't want, nor did I intend to cause any scandals to arise because otherwise you can freeze the support and that's it. And that's why when we talk about corruption, we must ask. Who is involved If we had one hundred seventy seven and if we get the half, where is the half? If you will find the second half, you will find corruption.”
2025-01-06 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #456 – Volodymyr Zelenskyy: Ukraine, War, Peace, Putin, Trump, NATO, and Freedom · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And the United States Jets, cargo jets moved these weapons. But everywhere you have to spend money. We could get more weapons, but we have to pay for this very expensive. Fleet. My question Is this corruption or not? Or lobbyism? What is it”
2025-01-06 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #456 – Volodymyr Zelenskyy: Ukraine, War, Peace, Putin, Trump, NATO, and Freedom · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“The second point, which is very important, just as an example, is a corruption. The first question Whose corruption? This is the Here is just one small example for you. When the United States began to transfer us weapons, it was American money, but American weapons. Money for these weapons. I had as a president, I had cargo jets, not in Ukraine because of the war we moved them very quickly to Europe. We had cargo, we have good cargo fleet. Very good. Or because of Antonov? So I asked. American side to grant me the opportunity because our jets are at another airfield. And I asked. America, to give me the opportunity, to use our jets for transfer, not to pay a lot, to whom to your companies, to American companies. No, I didn't get this opportunity. My jets stayed put.”
2025-01-06 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #456 – Volodymyr Zelenskyy: Ukraine, War, Peace, Putin, Trump, NATO, and Freedom · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Which are and were in Ukraine and we eliminated a lot of corruption. Of course, corruption exists in everyday life. It exists. But institutionally, I am sure that Ukraine will overcome all this. This takes a little time, I would say, honestly, that Listen, what we call corruption And in some state of the world, it's called lobbyism. But this does not mean that there is no corruption there. Let's take the aid you mentioned during the war. First of all, we have no money. No money except for the war. We received weapons from the United States of America, from Europe. If we take, for example, money from the United States of America, During all this time of the war, around 177 billion have been voted for or decided upon. 177 billion. Let's be honest We have not received half of this money.”
2025-01-06 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #456 – Volodymyr Zelenskyy: Ukraine, War, Peace, Putin, Trump, NATO, and Freedom · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Who is the most influential Ukrainian oligarch since independence? And no one could do anything about him. The United States of America wanted to have Kolomoysky and they went to great lengths because of money laundering, etc. There are criminal cases in the United States, I think in Delaware, something like that. Neither Europe could do anything about it. That is, we did a lot with oligarchs. Russian oligarchs, sanctions were imposed, they were thrown out, some of them fled the state, but they are all under sanctions. We exchanged some of them for our soldiers, such as Medved Chuk, to whose daughter Putin is godfather. That is, we fought against the strongest influential oligarchs.”
2025-01-06 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #456 – Volodymyr Zelenskyy: Ukraine, War, Peace, Putin, Trump, NATO, and Freedom · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Is written out in specific laws, in specific decrees, in specific decisions. We did this. We've done 99% of this. If something has not been done, it means that it is on the way. But in principle, all this exists, and there is no such system as we have in Europe. To say that we do not have corruption would be lying. We just talk about it openly. We are genuinely fighting against it. Look, we have sitting in our prison, Ihor Kolomoyski.”
2025-01-06 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #456 – Volodymyr Zelenskyy: Ukraine, War, Peace, Putin, Trump, NATO, and Freedom · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“You know it's very simple. First of all, We really have a very sophisticated anti-corruption system. Sophisticated not in the sense that it's difficult to understand, but in that it really consists of many elements. It's the most sophisticated in all of Europe. This is another requirement of the European Union. It was a requirement for Ukraine and for many years Ukraine was not trusted. I want to tell you that under me, we all voted for bills. anti-corruption reforms, almost all reforms and all anti-corruption bodies today are independent. They work as requested. I still believe that they are not perfect yet. There are many issues. There is a judicial system, but also a judicial reform that our partners, the United States plus the EU demanded from us. This is all written out.”
2025-01-06 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #456 – Volodymyr Zelenskyy: Ukraine, War, Peace, Putin, Trump, NATO, and Freedom · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Difficult debate is what will be brought to the table and we spoke about it. It will be during the war, how to finish the war. I think that is my goal because it will be one of my most complicated debates. And for any president who is in a war, of course, but I think this is my goal to win those debates and the other things are not for today.”
2025-01-06 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #456 – Volodymyr Zelenskyy: Ukraine, War, Peace, Putin, Trump, NATO, and Freedom · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It's very normal. Our system differs from the system in the United States. You have two parties and the parties decide who will be the leader. And in Ukraine, everybody can participate. Let them.”
2025-01-06 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #456 – Volodymyr Zelenskyy: Ukraine, War, Peace, Putin, Trump, NATO, and Freedom · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“You know, I think it can be, and there can be even a bigger number of candidates. Yeah, I don't really know what will be. They have rights to participate if they want to. Yes, if they really want to and can, they can go and do what they want, honestly. Most important is what are they doing now? I think that all these people are famous Ukrainian people. And it's important for them to do everything they can today, not begin any election campaign. I think this, what can divide our people to have the elections, you know, during the war? I mean, this makes steps. Speak about elections a lot, you know, make a big mess about it. I think this is not right. That's why I'm not agreeing with some of these people.”
2025-01-06 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #456 – Volodymyr Zelenskyy: Ukraine, War, Peace, Putin, Trump, NATO, and Freedom · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Even I don't know really. I don't know. I don't know. It is a very difficult question. It depends on how this war will finish. It depends on what people will want. Mostly it depends. People. First of all, and of course my family. We had no time to speak about it with my family and of course didn't have a chance because we don't think about it now and it's something you know. There are a lot of some, not a lot of, but enough voices in Ukraine from politicians, opposition, and etc about this. But we don't think really seriously didn't think seriously with my family about it. So this is war. I mean, how to think about what will be after? It's very difficult, really, very difficult.”
2025-01-06 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #456 – Volodymyr Zelenskyy: Ukraine, War, Peace, Putin, Trump, NATO, and Freedom · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And immediately Yes, immediately. In the year of the end of the war, it's a fact. Why? Because when martial law ends, you can immediately vote in Parliament to hold elections. And then everyone, everyone will vote. Because there are no restrictive measures. And after they vote, I think elections can be held in 90 days, something, something like that. Yes. And this means that immediately after the end of the war, elections may take place in 90 days.”
2025-01-06 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #456 – Volodymyr Zelenskyy: Ukraine, War, Peace, Putin, Trump, NATO, and Freedom · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“This is a difficult question. And one of the most unfair ones is how to vote. Without having a million soldiers. That is, it is impossible. We need to think about how to change the system if the elections are held in times of war, change the legislation, which should include changes to the voting system. To think about online voting. Everyone is afraid. Because of certain attacks like cyber attacks. And so on, but we need to think about it. I really think that it's possible, that we can end the war in 2025”
2025-01-06 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #456 – Volodymyr Zelenskyy: Ukraine, War, Peace, Putin, Trump, NATO, and Freedom · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yes, there are security things. There is the Constitution, but there are security things. That is, everyone in Ukraine understands that this cannot be done until the war is over or legislation needs to be changed. I believe that elections will take place immediately after the end of martial law. This is according to the law, or members of the parliament need to get together and change legislation which will be very difficult to do because society is against it. Why society against it? It is understandable why, because we want elections, that we want to trust. 8.5 million people went abroad. The infrastructure needs to be created for these millions of people to vote. Millions of people in the occupied territories? I'm not even talking about the occupation of 2014. I'm talking about the occupation right now. What to do with these people”
2025-01-06 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #456 – Volodymyr Zelenskyy: Ukraine, War, Peace, Putin, Trump, NATO, and Freedom · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Elections were postponed once. They were not delayed to be clear. Elections did not take place in twenty twenty four. That year, first of all, we need to understand the Constitution. They were scheduled to be held in the spring of 2024. To martial law under the Constitution, you cannot do this. These are the presidential elections, the parliamentary elections did not take place in the fall of twenty twenty four, according to the Constitution.”
2025-01-06 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #456 – Volodymyr Zelenskyy: Ukraine, War, Peace, Putin, Trump, NATO, and Freedom · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“You can't do anything. I really want to reduce taxes. I will tell you frankly, I really want to. Well, I think that the whole new tax system, new deregulation, new steps, new reforms, all this will be after the war. Although there is something to brag about, this is proof. And this This is a document because if you want to get a candidacy for European Union, you must implement the appropriate number of reforms. We do everything. During the war, we voted for many reforms, including anti-corruption, banking reforms, land reforms, major reforms. We started a large privatization and the war did not stop us. Yes, it slowed down, but we went through a lot.”
2025-01-06 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #456 – Volodymyr Zelenskyy: Ukraine, War, Peace, Putin, Trump, NATO, and Freedom · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Possible. I believe that the business sector works despite the difficulties of the war. And we do everything somewhere. You know, there, somewhere to reduce some low. On the contrary, a military tax is used for war, you need to take money somewhere. This, by the way, is about the fact the fact that the US gave us a lot. And Europe too. But compared to how much we needed for the war, this is not all. As for military salaries, you know, you know that we could not pay the salaries of a million strong army. We could not pay it using the money from our partners. These are all expenses. This is all the money that the country and people have accumulated.”
2025-01-06 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #456 – Volodymyr Zelenskyy: Ukraine, War, Peace, Putin, Trump, NATO, and Freedom · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“But we need to understand that first there is a war, and then martial law is introduced. Martial law is not introduced because someone wanted to. You say this is not Pinochet, this is not Pinochet, and so on. This is a completely different story. An aggressor came. And according to your legislation, if the border is violated, if there is armed aggression, you have all this written down, long ago written out in legislation. You introduce martial law and the introduction of martial law everywhere at all times means in any case, a restriction of opportunities. If opportunities are limited, rights and freedoms are restricted, therefore the war itself restricts rights and freedoms. Yes, and you can't do anything about it. We try honestly to balance as much as”
2025-01-06 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #456 – Volodymyr Zelenskyy: Ukraine, War, Peace, Putin, Trump, NATO, and Freedom · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“In any case, this war is for Our freedom. Generally speaking, To be honest When you understand over time, when the war passes, you understand that your main values are at home. This is your home, your children, your love, God willing, parents are alive. And if and if not alive, then their memory, visiting their grave. Choosing how to work, how much, preferably choosing where to work All this is freedom. Freedoms are not just a desire. They are an opportunity. In any case, you are right because war is a limitation of opportunities. In any case, you fight for these opportunities your parents, your parents and God. Gave you life, right? You fight for your life, your life.”
2025-01-06 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #456 – Volodymyr Zelenskyy: Ukraine, War, Peace, Putin, Trump, NATO, and Freedom · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“North Korean skills, North Korean knowledge, which they are now gaining from this war. These include mastering new technologies, large-scale drones, missiles, how it works, the kind of technological war we have today, cyber war, etc. All these skills, Korea, will bring home and scale up in that region. And this will be a risk for the Pacific region. Security first and foremost. For Japan and for South Korea, they will face these risks 100% and it will be clear that Taiwan will also have to face them. Without this It is impossible. This is already happening. This is already happening. Therefore, I think that. President Trump has all power to stop Putin and give Ukraine strong security guarantees.”
2025-01-06 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #456 – Volodymyr Zelenskyy: Ukraine, War, Peace, Putin, Trump, NATO, and Freedom · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Which Putin will wage on all the territories of that Europe, post-Soviet Europe, I mean Soviet Europe, not post-Soviet, but post-World War II period, that is Soviet Europe, Soviet-era Europe, in order to completely control everything there. This is what he will do. And besides this, This will happen in any case, even if the US is thinking about leaving NATO. This war will affect the United States because North Korea is the first sign.”
2025-01-06 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #456 – Volodymyr Zelenskyy: Ukraine, War, Peace, Putin, Trump, NATO, and Freedom · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It is clear that any people are capable of generating their own opinion. Show their skills, develop society. Everyone who can express an opinion? Everyone who can shape the independence and maturity of society such people are not needed, and he wants this in Ukraine. And therefore, everyone should understand that Ukraine A large wall From that European If God willing President Trump does not withdraw from NATO. Because again, I believe that this is the biggest risk. I think two steps. Two steps Putin would like to see is a weak NATO. And this without Trump? Weak Ukraine, which cannot survive on the battlefield, simply cannot survive, and prevent me from building a strong relationship with Trump. I think these two steps, leaving NATO and Ukraine's weakness, will lead to a large-scale war.”
2025-01-06 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #456 – Volodymyr Zelenskyy: Ukraine, War, Peace, Putin, Trump, NATO, and Freedom · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“You will see, oh, he will start turning Moldova away from Europe, although they want to go there. He does not care there will be a pro-Russian party, and they will do something with the current president because she has won the elections, she is pro-European, but he will turn this back. The next steps are completely clear. He will do everything wherever he has lost influence where there was influence, influence of the Soviet Union. He'll turn it back as much as possible. And we understand at what price. You have seen Syria. You saw these tortures, what we saw in Butcha, what we saw, everywhere we came and where our territories were occupied. In Syria, the same happened. There were a thousand people there. And you have seen it. Scientists were found, doctors were found.”
2025-01-06 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #456 – Volodymyr Zelenskyy: Ukraine, War, Peace, Putin, Trump, NATO, and Freedom · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And this is what Putin did. It's very important for him not to lose this influence. That is, he turned back Georgia, young people, students, everyone leaves, and this is a fact. Georgia is quite small, and they will leave. They want to live in Europe. They want to develop. Somebody in the United States, somebody in Europe, somebody in the EU, somebody in Britain, he will now fight for the Moldovan parliament. This is his second step. You will see in April what happens.”
2025-01-06 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #456 – Volodymyr Zelenskyy: Ukraine, War, Peace, Putin, Trump, NATO, and Freedom · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I do not want to talk about these banalities that he wants to return. All the territories of the Soviet Union influence over them. He does this little by little. I just don't want to, people need to know details. For example, Georgia, which was headed towards the EU and NATO, completely turns towards Russia, regardless of the fact that they have frozen conflicts. They have in Abkhazia what we have with Donbass, which is controlled by militant rebels. Abkhazia is not developing, it's just a part, a very beautiful part of Georgia. That has died. And if you have the opportunity, then go there someday. You will understand it simply died because Putin wanted to. He wanted not to allow them to develop because of frozen conflict means that you will not be accepted in the EU and certainly will not be accepted into NATO because right now, yes, they do not take you because of a frozen conflict.”
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“First of all, they have to understand the idea of Putin's war, it is very important for him. Consider this process. I think it is very important for him not to give Ukraine independence. To prevent Ukraine from developing as an independent country for him influence influence on Ukraine cannot be lost. And for him it is, you know, like. Think for him? This is such a goal in this last mile? Uncertainly for him, the last mile and of his ah Of his political life. And I think that this is the goal for him. The second story.”
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“From you, from people in Ukraine, from people around who are really afraid. Afraid that Putin doesn't want to stop the war, afraid that he will come back with his aggression.”
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“Yeah, for me, this is the main question. But I said that for him, he's the president of the United States. For him, his priority is his questions in the United States, and I understand and I respect it. But the second he was speaking about the world? Yes, he said that he will finish the war. And I hope very much. I think that our people really support his idea. And that's why I said it is for me. It's very, very important to have enough people. Around him Who will have connections with him with the right things? For me, the truth is very right things. What's going on really on the battlefield? What's going on really with? Putin and Russia, what he really wants, and that is just to have it, you know? Before any decision, you have to be at the same level of information. And we need really, we need him to know everything.”
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“He was stronger He was much more stronger than Kamala Harris, Biden first, and then Kamala Harris, yes? He showed that he can intellectually and physically. Wasn't an important point to show that if you want to have a strong country, you have to be strong. And he was strong. And this number of rallies, what I said, is not a simple thing. He showed that he can. He is strong. So he doesn't have any questions with his, I mean, this age and etc. Nothing. He is young. He is young here and his brains work. So I think it's important, very important. And of course, a lot of interior questions. I understand the prices and etc. economic questions and the questions of you have the questions with other things.”
2025-01-06 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #456 – Volodymyr Zelenskyy: Ukraine, War, Peace, Putin, Trump, NATO, and Freedom · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And they understand this. There are convicted murderers condemned both historically and by their own people. Reparations have been paid and security guarantees have been established, by the way, and all this is done. And when all this is done and recognized, in any case, people develop relations with each other. That's clear, but it can only happen the way it always has, always has in history. Russia will have to apologize. Will. This will happen because they are guilty. They are guilty. And as I told you, the guilty are different. Both those who participated and those who remain silent because silence is also about participating. In my opinion”
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“I think history has long answered this question. I don't know how it will be for us. It will be in the future without a doubt. History has shown this time. And again, after every devastating war. One, generation one, country recognizes. That it Ah, but Was an aggressor And it comes to realize. This is impossible to forgive. This is precisely the kind of education they've had in Germany for many years, even though these children had nothing to do with it. It was their grandfathers who participated, and not all of them were participants. Nazi Germany's war against, essentially against the world, yes, and against life. And therefore, there's still. Apologizing. Apologizing is not easy. They know that they were the aggressors, they were guilty, they do not look for compromise in history. Compromise in itself buys time.”
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“No, no, no. I saw his rallies. So many rallies. No, no, let's. Let's be honest. Let's be honest. He had it, and I saw it, and it's very difficult. He's not, I mean, he's not 18. Yes, but he's strong. And this is his will. Everywhere where the war is. I'm sure. I pray to God it never will be on your land, yes, and I'm sure that it will not be. But I'm sure that if you have, in some region, the problems How to say earthquake hurricane you have it all Well, I'm sure that President Trump Would be there. After one day, two or three days, I don't know the security of all these things, but he will be. Otherwise, how will people look at him? Yes, of course he will. Of course. The same about me. I'm not comparing myself with him. I'm just where it is difficult for people I have to come. The question, the next question is very simple. Kursk region.”
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