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  1. Really? You might get a lounge gig out of this. Is there a lounge, Oliver, that you could spin at? In Austin, all right, coming to you live from W

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  2. If you want to get a jump on the this week AI launch, which will happen, I think officially in February, this podcast is going to be in the this week in startups feed during 2026. So if you're listening to this and you're this week in startups listener, that's fine. You'll see it in your feed. However, you're going to want to sign up for this week in AI.ai. And you can get our daily newsletter. We just bulletpoint the most important stories and you can subscribe to the YouTube channel. All of that is available at this week in AI.ai. We'll see you next time. Bye bye. Great new hit song powered by Suno. What's this track that you made? Is this like... Look at this. Mikey, what do you think of DJ Oliver? Go see him

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  3. You might be able to guess it and send him something incredible. Wade, I don't know if you're hiring right now or you're busy automating all these jobs away, but I assume you're hiring some positions. Yeah

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  4. All right, we need researchers. So if it sounds great, you want to make a couple of Hundi, a couple thousand dollars a month, tens of thousands of dollars a year, and you're an expert on something, reach out to my guy, Ali. Mikey, if somebody is passionate about music and understands technology, where should they go to apply?

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  5. Imagine if I had this for Robin Hood and Uber and Data Stacks and Thumbtack, the first pitches. Anyway, this has been a great episode. Thank you, Wade. Thank you, Mikey. Thank you, Ollie. They're all hiring, so go to micro one. What's the, do you have a URL for hiring?

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  6. Yeah, we all do, so we're all going in the same direction. But this is what I tell my new researchers, Ali. And it's the challenging founders who are odd or otherwise different that change the world. A pitch from Jenny's ice cream. Do you even know what flavor of Jenny's ice cream you were having back then? What were you getting?

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  7. What date is that from producer Oliver? Do you have the date on that? How many months ago was this from Ali trying to convince us to? This is from three years ago, almost, of Ali pitching us on his better way to hire engineers and evaluate them. Shout out to Ali. And whatever we invest in, we're always investing great hair, by the way, Ali, back then.

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  8. Shout out to Laura Lake, who took this call that used to work for me. Look at this microbone. He's had a Jenny's ice cream What were you thinking, Ollie? Well, I can't believe you

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  9. All right, listen, and this has been an amazing first episode. Here's your time capsule. Some founders are so mercurial and effervescent that they'll pitch us from completely inappropriate locations. Can you imagine this, Mikey? Like you're a founder and you decide to pitch a legendary angel investor in his firm. Well, here you go. Play the Look at this

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  10. And then I connected the notion AI to Slack. And Slack's internal AI isn't very good compared to Notions. And when I said, hey, tell me about this company that was doing this agendic thing, speaking of agents that we invested in. And then were there any others that we didn't invest in, it gave me a summary of all the companies that we passed on investing in. And so I was like, wait a second, can we have an agent going out and finding out who we said no to? We passed on investing in who went on to go to Y Combinator or speedrun from A16Z or TechSars or raised a Series A. And then we could actually automate the anti-portfolio and then say, why did we screw up? And so we have all that proprietary training data. And that's my big mission in 2026 is to make those agents actually do the full cycle of a venture capitalist job and see how far we can take it. Ali, you have some thoughts on this as well, because you're obviously building.

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  11. Yeah, and you just have to slow down to speed up. We have an agent that takes emails and incoming applications from founders. We do two things. We have our Athena assistants go to Athenawow.com and investor in the company and you can get a couple weeks for free. We have them taking the inbound applications for funding at our fund and at Founder University and just making sure we fill everything in. And then also we'll take a deck and normalize it and create summaries. And when we do our first meeting, like I have the first meeting, Ali, you did with our team because we started this database three years ago. And I'll pull the video at some point and show it to you so you can see you're pitching skill from three years ago. But we can basically learn from those videos. So now in year four of recording our first calls with founders, putting them into the database, I did a thing that was really interesting. I had a company I couldn't remember that had pitched me on something. And I said, tell me, because Notion built in AI.

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  12. One impresses you the most currently Wade that your team built. You have one that you're like, oh my God, as a founder of this company, I'm just over the moon about this one because it's so annoying and it's just to have to do it manually or it's just so great to do it with an agent.

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  13. Gonna lightning round it. Wade, agents were supposed to be here this year, and we were supposed to all be hiring an agent to do HR to do customer support and not have to do these functions at all. It's still kind of co-piloty. It's still kind of vibe. When did the agents actually start working and we can just give them a job and not have to be co-piling it? When can we just give them the controls? And what's the holdup? What are the blockers?

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  14. You got to create these moments. I started reading at night because I'm so addicted to TikTok and Instagram and mostly X and just trying to read every night for the last hour or half hour is such a better win in terms of getting yourself to sleep. And so this is going to take thoughtfulness on parents. All right, listen, we've been going for 75 minutes. I guess we could either save the year of the agent or we can do it lightning round. You guys got 10 minutes to lightning round it?

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  15. Of these 50, it looks like three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine of them are character AI, you know, spicy chat, candy AI, juicy, you know, all of these character based ones. These are particularly addicting, especially if you are socially isolated or ready. These are the ones I don't think kids, these things should be 16 and above or something. You do not want your kids getting into a crazy relationship with an AI character long term.

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  16. You know what? You have to teach adults how to do this too. When we were in Vegas, we all went to dinner, me, Chamoth, Freeburg, and a couple of other folks. And I said, hey, everybody, stack your phones. And we all put our phones in a stack on the side of the booth. And I said, first person to touch it pays for dinner. Let's all just talk and be present, you know, and same thing with poker. You know, with playing poker sometimes, I was at a poker game last night or two nights ago. And I instituted the phone panelty, which is every time you're on your phone and the action's on you, you put $25 into the pot, and then it doubles each time and it got to like 200 bucks. People started to put their phone down and experience being with each other. You have to actually create these moments. You have to be thoughtful about it. And it's the job of parents. But look at this list of, these are 50 Geni AI properties by monthly visits. And I think A16Z shared this recently on social.

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  17. How are you thinking about their technology use and then maybe interacting with super sophisticated AI instead of talking to their friends? And then obviously social media. I'm in, I have two nine-year-olds and a 16-year-old now. So I'm part of the social media trying to keep that floodgate. My daughter desperately wants to get on social media and we've been able to push that off. At 16, I think maybe okay to start dabbling or maybe 17 in the Instagram world because her friends are all on it now, but we gave her her phone, I think, at 14 and iPads, you know, since five or six years old. But you got to really limit this stuff. How are you thinking about raising kids into this crazy addictive soup of character AI, et cetera?

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  18. Let's unpack that one because this is definitely true. People are, you know, and they said this about every generation. For us, it was, we were spending too much time watching MTV. Then we were online too much. Now it's TikTok and Roblox and character AI. It is true that people are getting isolated and that people aren't leaving their homes. And I think it's a double whammy of the addictive nature of this technology and COVID just making people into home bodies. What are your thoughts, Mikey?

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  19. Well, here's one where I think is in your wheelhouse because you think about people having joy from making and experiencing music. And we do have maybe a generation, the COVID generation or the permanently online generation. He did throw in a weird curveball into this DCL argument and banning the data centers that I thought was interesting and worth unpacking. Let's play this weird curveball from Bernie.

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  20. Faster. And how would it sound if education was free for everybody and you could get a really great trade skill very quickly using these tools?

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  21. Daniel Eck is working on reducing the cost of these 3D body scans to just a couple hundred bucks. And obviously education is going to be dramatically impacted by this. Why would you spend $100,000 on a degree when you could teach yourself the same tools and become amazing at them without spending $100,000 in higher education? Why don't we just as an industry show the world, specifically Americans, hey, we can really lower the prices of those three really acute things and make it easier to own a home, easier to educate your kids and get ahead of this and then Mikey live longer and lower the cost of healthcare. All of these things are going to happen. I think we have a communication issue in the technology industry with the Democratic socialists. And we just need to bridge that gap. Hey, how would it sound if healthcare was free or close to free? How would it sound if homes got better?

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  22. It's a dumb solution. I have been giving this a lot of thought. Obviously, and we've talked about it on all in for the past two years, I've taken the position that the job displacement's happening faster than we think, but I don't think deselling is the solution. I think actually the rallying cry for our industry should be able to communicate three areas of focus that would benefit Americans, specifically young Americans. The three most overpriced items right now in America are education, healthcare, and housing. All highly regularly. All highly regulated, and all of them could be disrupted in a major way by AI. Robots, building homes, healthcare becoming super cheap

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  23. Wade, it would be absolutely extraordinary if 30,000 people didn't die in car accidents unnecessarily a year and if the price of Ubers and DoorDashes went down 50% or eventually 90%, well, then people are going to get that benefit as well. Your thoughts as we sort of wrap up the segment.

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  24. I mean, this is, I think, where he goes off the rails. We're going to stop the data centers Ali. And then if there's no data centers, then there will be more jobs and people will not lose their jobs. It's the craziest possible solution. There are other practical solutions you could think of if, in fact, driving jobs are going away and you're concerned that's going to happen at a really violent rate and we're going to have 5 million truck drivers and cab drivers and Uber drivers and DoorDashers suddenly out of work, you could create a tax or a license for those. I'm not necessarily saying I'm advocating for them, but there would be other solutions. So what are your thoughts on if there was a license for a Robo taxi that charged an extra tax? And then that tax went to retraining funds, et cetera. Any thoughts there, Ollie?

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  25. Yeah, here's a good clip of his solution to all this. And there's another interesting side quest we'll go on about what this is doing to kids and people being less social. But let's hear Bernie's solution, which is to get rid of the data centers and the energy.

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  26. You're literally, we just in the last segment talked about all these new careers that are going to happen because instead of, I don't know, one or two percent of society being able to make a production ready track that somebody might really enjoy listening to to, I think your tool probably makes it possible for, I don't know, everybody to make something production ready or I don't know, a third, what's your take on this desal approach that Bernie Sanders is advocating for?

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  27. The ground truth here because it does seem like displacement's going to happen in certain jobs, the tedious ones, but it's also happening in white-collar jobs. You're seeing more efficiency in operations. And we talked about how Zuckerberg and Google don't believe in product managers. And you yourself said, hey, we need people who embrace these tools. Wow, still having some experience. So unpack his position. What he's got right. What has he got wrong?

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  28. Wade, when you hear this rhetoric being our salty dog here with now in your second or third paradigm shift in the tech industry, what's your take on the timing of job displacement? I'm not going to call it job loss. I think it's jobs are being displaced. They always have been, but we can't argue it's not going to happen at an accelerating rate because as we started these discussions, it is happening. People are becoming much better at their jobs. But I think we're all hiring here. So what's...

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  29. So there's the setup, Ollie. What does he get right? What does he get wrong? And how do you think our industry should reply to this? I would say is a somewhat valid concern

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  30. So that's the framing, that's the setup. I know all these people. I can tell you they actually are worried about this and they're thinking about it. But that's the sort of the setup and not wrong that every important technology company and person is focused on this. But here is, I think where he makes a pretty salient argument, which is that robotics is going to create job loss, specifically the robotics space. We'll play that clip and then we'll talk to the panel about it.

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  31. To a capitalist or a democracy, everybody should be able to have their own path to success. Here's the first clip. He's blaming all this on billionaires who want more wealth and power. Play the clip.

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  32. Amazing. All right. Let's go to a bigger, broader issue, which is acceleration versus deceleration. Bernie Sanders seems to have joined the AI discussion. Listen, this isn't going to be a politics show, but AI is having a major impact in the world. We've never seen a technology that's powerful, and we've never seen a technology advancing this quickly. Everything we saw last year seems incredibly basic and crude compared to the products we're seeing this year. And the same thing will happen in the next six months. It's only accelerating. Here's, and I'm assuming you all saw, did everybody see the clips of Sanders? I'll play a couple of them here, but I'm thinking you guys have been seeing this because it's trending. All right. He makes basically three arguments. The first is billionaires, which in the socialist mind are terrible things as opposed to.

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  33. Amazing. So, this has already started to tap it, and this is when you know something's happening is when I was talking to Tony Hinchcliffe from Kill Tony, the people at the major artist representation firms like agents are now using Kill Tony as where they source the next wave of talent, just people who've gone on and done a minute of Kill Tony, somebody will get to them before the Killton episode has even come out. And so this is what's going to happen with Suno. Yeah, you're going to eventually be the place where people are looking. And is there like a public repository the same way Sora has like, here's a gallery of things that are trending? Is there like a trending on Suno somewhere where people can look at the trending tracks? And do you host the stuff or do people just go on distro kid? And my friend Phil Kaplan's company and then put it on Spotify. Tell me about the...

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  34. Yeah, I remember when I was coming up in New York in the late 90s, I used to play basketball with a DJ. His name was DJ Clue, and he made mixtapes. And he started by selling them literally at train stations or from the back of his car kind of situation. And basically sampling and remixing started as like just selling tapes in Harlem, on Canal Street, et cetera. And then it became a big part of the industry. And you had breakout artists who were part of that. Has there been a breakout artist from Suno yet where they used the tool and they broke into the music industry building AI first music?

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  35. I'm an official spokesperson, me, Serena Williams, and Charles Barclay, three exceptional individuals at their craft. So literally, I've done two of these, it's not an influencer deal. It's like being a celebrity. So those are my new celebrity endorsing. I'm an endorser. I'm my endorsement deal. But they are using it and they're making great music. And Mikey, they don't need to be, people don't need to be precious about this tool, do they? Because a lot of the great music of the century has been based on sampling some incredible David Bowie song, some incredible hook. I mean, Kanye West, Diddy, no Diddy, you know, whatever. I know it's in jail and those Diddy documentaries pretty brutal, but, you know, he was famous for sampling the sting song, every breath you take in his tribute to Biggie Smalls. This is not new to the industry, and they actually are particularly good at figuring out how to create.

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  36. Can tell you, I am on GLP ones, I have for four years since my friend Kevin Rose and Tim Ferris talked about the awful use of them. And I lost 43 pounds. And you can go to row.co, which is where I get my GLPs. And I'm now a spot. Did you guys know I'm sponsored by row.co.co.

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  37. Data like that, or is it really just have to make relationships with all the labels and the artists? And that's the mode in your business. Because there are these sampling websites, right? There's a number of sampling websites that let you buy samples and build songs. So explain to us the game on the field right now. Splice, right? That's the name of it. Splice, because that's all royalty free, I believe.

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  38. Yeah, and that means they have to have an account. And if they get value from it, they put their credit card in and you get a new customer. So it's a win-win. Mikey, you have the most difficult, I think, challenging task, which is the music industry. They're pretty protective of their IP and very litigious, obviously. And then it's super valuable. They also have to contend with their artists. Does Mark Knopfler want to be part of this and have people, you know, the first thing I do whenever I use one of your tools or one of them is say, hey, make me a Mark Noffler song because Dire Straits hasn't been making albums since on every street in the early 90s or yeah, in the 90s. So I'm desperate for a Dire Straits album. How do you think about training data? Are you hiring musicians and experts to make rifts and play the blues and then training your data with

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  39. Are you integrating yourself into open AIs? I don't know what they call them now. I think they were originally called apps or integrations. Connectors. Yeah, connectors. How do you think about open AI's connectors as a competitor or a collaborative for Zap

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  40. You been approached by the Sam Maltmans over the world, the claws of the world to take your data set and they license it from you for $50 million a year? And how do you think about it? Because I have had startups who've had this kind of internal discussion and board meetings, hey, should we keep this proprietary or should we license it? Obviously, Quora and Stack Overflow, they've gone the licensing route. Do you think, hey, maybe I should just license this to an LLM?

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  41. I don't think most people are aware of this fact that this is what training data has moved. Wade, you have, I'm assuming hundreds of thousands of people every month. Architecting workflows, which you can then have as proprietary training for the Zapier God operational, I don't know what you call this person, but there's some air traffic controller in the Zapier brain tell us about that. Are you building the Zapier brain of operations based on all this tiki-tacky stuff that my team's doing to take data from one repository, get it into Slack, and then bring it back over to Notion and move it out of email into structured data? Tell us about your thoughts on training data.

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  42. HDs, human data experts. I love it. And they could be doing this freelance as a side hustle, be doing it very quietly. Maybe they work for a big four accounting firm or whatever. And then on the weekends, they get $200 an hour, $300 an hour work to do this kind of stuff. Yeah.

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  43. What do you call this career where a tax expert who's 10 years into their career can say, you know what, I don't like clients anymore or customers? I just want to answer questions and be heads down talking to an LLM and making it better. What is the career path that this is now, Allie?

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  44. In action that's ENTERPRET com Give some examples of the top high value verticals. Obviously, people have watched, we have an investment in a company called Tax GPT that's doing tax law specifically, which is granular, which is detailed, which you need expertise in, which is always changing, obviously tax laws change every day globally in hundreds of markets and thousands of different little niches. So I'm assuming accounting and legal are obvious ones in there and maybe coding what else is in this list? What are your clients asking for, generally speaking?

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  46. We did the same thing, we wanted a cap cut editor. So I said, Hey, we want them to do capcut, just create capcut at launch.co and have them email us clips of the existing show and we paid them for it but my lord the hiring process went so much faster when we just simplified it and said show us you doing this task the best way to tell if somebody can do a task is not to talk to them it's to look at their work i think that's uh i think something all ceos know inherently and all high agency people know but a lot of young people in the workforce are trying to figure out all right let's go to our next topic training data Ali you do this for a living at Micro One and Mikey you're very focused on the music space so I got a lot of questions about this how much training data is left Ali in the world that hasn't been scraped open crawled etc or licensed now because we're entering this age of licensing where Reddit, Cora building really nice businesses obviously Elon bought Twitter in order to have proprietary training data

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  47. Very simple way to say this is do the job that you want and somebody will hire you, but you just start doing the job every day and somebody will hire you. We took our hiring process and I moved it because I saw Naval did something really interesting. He has got Naval Ravikant, founder of co-founder of Angelist in his feed where he has like this little podcast feed where he just does like three minute thought pieces. He just said, I'm looking for a chief of staff and I'm looking for a producer. We are like high agency independent workers. We work remote. If you're interested, here's the email address. Tell us what you can do. Show us what you can do. That's it. That was his job description. That was his process. So I was like, well, that's pretty smart. We need a community person here for our founders. And we just popped up the email community at launch.co and said email us what community experience what what you've done and what you would do for communities around startups and angel investors and seed investors and

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  48. Is just like so obvious, but young people are like, well, if I'm not getting paid for it, why would I do that? The game on the field, Ollie now, is you're in a global competition and you have your hooks into all the global markets people in other markets are doing this because they really want the work, yeah?

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  49. Mikey, has that happened? Is that actually happening that some number of young folks realize sending resumes and doing an AI interview with a hundred AI agents and trying to get into a company just not as effective as just doing some spec work, building a prototype and emailing it to you and telling you, hey, Suno doesn't have saxophones that are really great. you know, vibe coded and I got my friend who plays Sax to do a bunch of riffs of Mark Noffler songs and we fixed it for you. Here's where I think you should be going. Do you actually have people doing that or not?

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  50. Best advice for a young person graduating school who can't get that entry level job weighted? What's your best advice to them to break in? Because we are seeing this even in big tech. We're seeing it in traditional companies where, hey, there's somebody on the team who's an elder statesman as you're talking about talking about Gen X versus elder statesman is just crazy for me because we were the punk rock kids, but 15, 20 years ago when Web 2.0 came out. What's the best advice then for young people entering the workforce who just don't have a job offer from Google or Meta or Apple today? And they're kind of concerned that nobody is handholding them into a career.

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