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Wagner Moura

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  1. Like that, and so people that made people sort of like Bolsonaro himself would never have been possible, I think, as a president if it wasn't because of that law, you know, that affected the memory of an entire country. There was like, there are young people in Brazil that didn't even know that it was a dictatorship in the country. All people would go like, oh, maybe it wasn't that bad

    2026-02-15 · Pod Save America · How To Survive a Dictatorship (feat. Wagner Moura) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  2. And how these things can be passed along within an entire country. Brazil suffered of generational trauma, I think, throughout our entire history. In 79, you mentioned that the dictatorship ended in 85, in 79, we had a law called the Amnesty Law that basically forgave torturers and killers. And it's like the dictatorship forgiven it's themselves. It forgave all tortures and killers and people that did despicable things.

    2026-02-15 · Pod Save America · How To Survive a Dictatorship (feat. Wagner Moura) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  3. In the film, in the secret agent, there is something also about there is a father and son thing in the film going. Because my character has a son, but the chief of police of the film also has two sons. And the killers that are trying to find my character, it's like a father and son thing too. So now going, I think I'm going to make a bridge between the two things. It's about values, I think, and what kind of values you pass along to the new generations. Because Secret Agent is a film about generational trauma.

    2026-02-15 · Pod Save America · How To Survive a Dictatorship (feat. Wagner Moura) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  4. Yeah, I think we are. It's about values. But now I got a little lost because I wanted to answer your previous question about.

    2026-02-15 · Pod Save America · How To Survive a Dictatorship (feat. Wagner Moura) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  5. Man that were pure rage and brutality, and you could see, I mean, maybe it's just in my nature, but I could go and look at these men and go like, and kind of see all the fragility. With them, you know, all the issues that these men were carrying with them in order to do what they did to that other human beings. So yeah, so maybe I'm traveling. I think that we are living in a moment where... Yeah, it's a discussion about there is a big thing about masculinity

    2026-02-15 · Pod Save America · How To Survive a Dictatorship (feat. Wagner Moura) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  6. Yeah, I think the idea of Strong governments, of strong men. I think there was an idea of masculinity. going on in the world right now that and that was how it was back then with Pinochet and Shelley, with Hitler, with the idea of the macho man that's gonna... I was very impressed when I saw The thing that really, of course, was when Alex Parat was killed. By eyes in Minneapolis, of course, that image was so horrible and so strong. But while I was watching it, what I could my brain was like i could see two different kind of They're very clear to me. Like there was a man that put his body in front of a woman or a person that needed his help. Trying to protect her. And then there was this other.

    2026-02-15 · Pod Save America · How To Survive a Dictatorship (feat. Wagner Moura) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  7. a very different guy. It's hard to say these things with politicians, but I'm a fan. I think Lula is a fantastic character of Brazilian history. But also, exactly. And now to see the film being released in Europe, in different countries of Europe. Like in Spain, it's interesting the discussions about how... Franco's name is coming back to young people, you know, as if like maybe there was this strong president back then. And here in the US, of course, with... With the interesting because when you do the QAs, for example, when you talk to journalists, you end up learning a lot about the Of questions that they do. So yeah, of course, and that's how it was supposed to be, right? These parallels, these connections with the present, with what's going on right now.

    2026-02-15 · Pod Save America · How To Survive a Dictatorship (feat. Wagner Moura) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  8. Crazy to release a film about a guy who was fighting against the dictatorship under the government of a man who praised the dictatorship and censored my film. So it's interesting to see that now, for example, I love the fact that the film is that the secret agent is being released in Brazil now under Lula, which is a very democratic.

    2026-02-15 · Pod Save America · How To Survive a Dictatorship (feat. Wagner Moura) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  9. It's interesting because I love this about films because films are always like an encounter between what an artist wants to say because we shot the film in 2024. We could have this could have been shot like in 23. Sometimes films, they take time to be released. So when we release a film, it's the encounter of that will, that thing that an artist wanted to say two years, three years, four years ago with the present. And I always think that this is an interesting thing. For example, I directed a film called Marigela, right? About the freedom fighter in Brazil, a real character And I had to release the film under Bolsonaro's government, which was...

    2026-02-15 · Pod Save America · How To Survive a Dictatorship (feat. Wagner Moura) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  10. Trust me, you gotta it's interesting because each age is a different challenge, but it's also a different kind of, I see photos of them when they were six and eight. I was like, oh my God.

    2026-02-15 · Pod Save America · How To Survive a Dictatorship (feat. Wagner Moura) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source