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  1. It's Wit Wolf Heard. And I would encourage everybody to check out Bumble. We've added friend finding business connections and everything. So I think that would be a great thing for people to go check out.

    2018-05-25 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #316: Whitney Wolfe Herd — Founder and CEO of Bumble · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  2. Check out what you're up to. Yeah, as long as you're going to be nice on the internet, come to Instagram. But no, everybody's

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  3. Well, we did it. We put be the CEO. Your parents always wanted you to marry. And we put that on a bunch of billboards everywhere. We actually asked that exact question in the office if we could share one message with the world and we had a budget to do it. What would we put up there? And that was really the sentiment that our team landed on. It just speaks to everything we're trying to do with Bumble. We want to encourage women to be equals and to be seen as equal and in any courtship through friendship or business or love, whatever that is, to really feel empowered and confident and to get out there and be whatever they want to be, not go and try to find that in someone else. You can find that in someone else, but try to do it within also.

    2018-05-25 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #316: Whitney Wolfe Herd — Founder and CEO of Bumble · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  4. That's a really good question. You know what? Turning my phone off from time to time. Genuinely. That's helped me a lot. I think I've formed this insane tech addiction over the last few years, just Bumble is on my phone. I mean, literally, everything goes through my phone. I'm communicating with people all day, every day, and it's nonstop. And so Turning it off, putting it in a drawer for 30 minutes is actually really helpful.

    2018-05-25 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #316: Whitney Wolfe Herd — Founder and CEO of Bumble · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  5. So, yeah, I guess you could call that absurd because you don't hear a lot of adults doing that. So it's probably classified as absurd. But I do think that it's important, you know, and no matter how busy you get or no matter where you are in the world. What's more important than your family? Nothing.

    2018-05-25 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #316: Whitney Wolfe Herd — Founder and CEO of Bumble · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  6. I just would never be able to live with myself If the next day came and you don't get to see your mom again for whatever reason, and I just have to say goodnight and tell her I love her.

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  7. I've been doing it since I left home. I cannot sleep at night. I have to, like last night, I was so exhausted. I'd been doing south by stuff all day. And literally, I had to roll over and get my phone and say, good night, mommy, I love you. I just can't go to sleep without doing it. I know it sounds kind of crazy. I'm literally a grown woman. I'm 28 years old.

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  8. I love well, people think this is absurd. I just think it's sweet, but I guess I'm different. I cannot sleep at night unless I text my mom goodnight and say I love you. Oh.

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  9. I swear to God, ask my husband I screenshot if anything is 555, I'm a weirdo with the number five. If I see a door that is like 555, I do the same thing. I swear to you.

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  10. So many people try to get out there and become successful as a As a coping, or you know, this is going to make me happier. This is going to make me happy. And then they get to the next level, and they're still not happy, and then they want to go to the next level. So that's really important.

    2018-05-25 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #316: Whitney Wolfe Herd — Founder and CEO of Bumble · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  11. I can't just listen to problems, come with two potential solutions. Like, hey, Whitney, we've got a huge issue. This situation has completely crumbled and we're committed to this or whatever happened. My suggested solution is either A, we do X, Y, and Z, or B, we could do this, and here are the consequences of both. And this is what is going to happen in each scenario. And then we can talk through that. And it goes to show that someone has actually thought through the other side of the fire. How do we get out of here? What's the exit strategy? Not just, oh, we were in a fire.

    2018-05-25 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #316: Whitney Wolfe Herd — Founder and CEO of Bumble · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  12. A follow up to that. We actually do that in the office. So what I've told the team and what the team has really learned, and they do it on their own, which is amazing, if you have a problem, please don't come talk to me about it unless you have a suggested solution. Exactly. Yes. Absolutely.

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  13. Contribution level or whatever it is, but I'm just always impressed by people because I think it's so important to really appreciate everybody else's, you know, kind of story and where they've come from and what they're doing. And so I've always been the last few years scared, like you said, I've always been like, well, I can't ask that person for advice because they're so important and they're so impressive and they're going to think I'm annoying or they're going to think that I'm needy or they're going to think that, you know what I mean? And so I've almost... Dug myself into this hole of not asking enough people for help. In fear of them feeling invaded or imposed on.

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  14. Even people that I, you know, along the journey, I kind of have this syndrome where I'm always impressed by everyone and I don't feel impressive ever. It's just something I've suffered with my whole life. No matter who it is in front of me, it literally could be someone that, you know, career-wise isn't even on the same, you know, kind of.

    2018-05-25 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #316: Whitney Wolfe Herd — Founder and CEO of Bumble · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  15. Go out and get it overnight. So tapping into people with experience and actually trusting them when you feel that they're off base but really trusting them, that's been such good advice that served me so well because you've probably been here too. You know, here I am this like, you know, 20-something year old a couple years ago. I'm still 20-something year old, but going out and doing things my own way and saying, oh, well, you just don't understand, or I want to do it my way, or no, trust me, it's going to be like this, tapping into someone who's done it before. And even if you disagree with them, really thinking twice before you shut them down. And so I just think that served me pretty well over the years is to not write off people with experience.

    2018-05-25 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #316: Whitney Wolfe Herd — Founder and CEO of Bumble · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  16. I've received a lot of interesting advice, and I think that the more you listen and the more you absorb, the better you are. As much as I've tried to say, you know, I'm going to do this my way and your advice is nice and your advice was great, but I'm going to trust my gut and I'm going to build the company that I want it to be. I have gotten great pieces of advice from so many people and I think that my business partner, like I said, he had been in the dating industry for almost a decade before me. And so there were times I would call upon him and say, hey, I'm thinking about doing this. And he'd say, well, I think you should think about it in a different way because he had been through it. And so I know this is going to sound silly, but the best piece of advice I've ever received was from my husband's grandfather, and he said, the most expensive currency in the world is experience. There's nothing better than experience. You cannot buy it. You cannot pay for it. You cannot.

    2018-05-25 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #316: Whitney Wolfe Herd — Founder and CEO of Bumble · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  17. Has served me very well, and I'm so proud of them because they're all now leaders in their own right. I want them to feel like many CEOs of their own in their own way. And, you know, if I'm not in the office for two weeks, I don't want to be like, oh, the boss is out because no, there's so many bosses in that office and they're amazing and they're passionate and they're inspiring and they're just as impactful as I am, right, to this company. And that's how I've wanted it to be.

    2018-05-25 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #316: Whitney Wolfe Herd — Founder and CEO of Bumble · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  18. So, you know, having everyone over to my house on a Saturday and making sure that they had a great day, but really explaining to them my pain points that I'd lived through in my life and why this company is going to make a difference and, you know, share with them how we can actually have real impact on the world, not just a paycheck or the potential to be a You know, valuation one day, right? How do we actually change the world through what we're doing? And changing the world doesn't necessarily mean on the main scale, you can change the world by affecting one person, right? That is putting good energy out there So investing that mantra and kind of putting that time and really finessing that ethos.

    2018-05-25 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #316: Whitney Wolfe Herd — Founder and CEO of Bumble · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  19. They felt like family, but in a non-boundary crossing way, right? You know, we still had boundaries where they still had their own lives and we were trying to keep things healthy.

    2018-05-25 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #316: Whitney Wolfe Herd — Founder and CEO of Bumble · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  20. So, I think that your first 10 hires are what defines the future of your business because no singular human can scale culture. It's impossible. There's no way to have the time or the bandwidth or the actual physical ability to go and instill your vision and your values in hundreds of employees as things grow if you're so fortunate. So those first 10 people, they are your culture warriors. And if you can invest everything you've got into those people, those people will then invest everything they've got into the people that work under them or beside them. And that's how you scale culture. And so, you know, in the early days, we're talking weekends. Like I would do whatever I could to make experiences for my key early hires so that they felt

    2018-05-25 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #316: Whitney Wolfe Herd — Founder and CEO of Bumble · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  21. The best thing I've ever invested into is time and dedication into my team at Bumble. 100% the best thing I've ever invested in. And it's been such a Dedicated effort over the last three and a half years, but really investing that extra hour or that extra day or that extra thought or that extra get to know someone, right? That's the stuff that counts the most because when you do that you instill more than just a job opportunity you know you give more than just an opening at a company you really leave them with the same values and the mission becomes ingrained in them and they're able to do their job in a way that is almost immune to competition because they're so on the same page with why you started the company to begin with.

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  22. Even though I've had this amazing business partner who has a lot of answers and I've been able to tap into his knowledge, there's still so many days where I have no idea what to do and you're left with one thing and that's your gut and that's it and you have to try to listen. But I'm with you on the coffee thing like I've tried to have only one sip because I will literally start spinning out of control. So I'm with you on the toning it down.

    2018-05-25 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #316: Whitney Wolfe Herd — Founder and CEO of Bumble · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  23. It's worth exploring that. It's so interesting you say that because every time I'm like, damn, why did I not do that or why did I do that if I think back to when I made the decision against or for something, I always had the right answer, if that makes sense? Yeah. But then you go in the other way for whatever reason, and you're kind of like, I should have listened to myself. For anybody out there, like even in business, I think that's such a good way to have the answers because a lot of entrepreneurs, we don't have the answers, you know.

    2018-05-25 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #316: Whitney Wolfe Herd — Founder and CEO of Bumble · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  24. And lo and behold, five minutes later, you know, I got the phone call back from his chief operations officer who was following an ambulance. That really stuck with me through the whole week, and I was trying to wrap my head around that. I was trying to, you know, decipher why did I, why am I feeling those things? So my message in that, not to ramble is that I genuinely believe every person on this planet has a sense of intuition. And it's learning how to separate that from fear or anxiety or panic and really listen to your gut. And I really think that that's what has gotten me to where I am today is that, you know, listening to your gut when you can. And so yeah, that was my only really mantra. I was just to kind of listen to what was going on and try to keep it under control.

    2018-05-25 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #316: Whitney Wolfe Herd — Founder and CEO of Bumble · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  25. Feel this sense of security when you feel the least secure possible. I don't know how to explain that, but it's really spooky. So actually the night before his accident, I actually had a dream something awful was going to happen to him. And I called him that morning. And I said, I feel sick. It was like six in the morning. I woke him up early. And I said, I feel sick. I had this awful dream. I need to come home because he was actually not in Austin at the time. And he was in Tyler where his business is. And so home is kind of, we kind of commute. I said, I need to come home. I can't go to LA today. I've got to get home. I just don't feel good about this. And he was like, chill out. Like, I'm going to go walk the dogs. You go downstairs, like, have some coffee. Call me on your way to work. And I just had this sick feeling and this really bad feeling, like something's not right, something's not right. And I called him on the way to work and he didn't answer. And I just started sobbing in the car and I had to kind of slap myself and roll the window down and be like, you're having a panic attack. Like this is so, you had too much coffee. And I just couldn't comb my.

    2018-05-25 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #316: Whitney Wolfe Herd — Founder and CEO of Bumble · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  26. I do try to. Tap into whatever the higher power is, right? I'm not a religious person. I do feel that I'm somewhat spiritual and spirituality comes out in moments of darkness, you know, or in moments of fear. And it's interesting. You almost...

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  27. Who were literally holding me as I sobbed and was terrified that they came to the ceremony, and that was just the craziest feeling to go from being in the darkest, darkest, darkest possible situation in a certain building to coming back and being in the best possible situation. That's just like a really emotional situation. So I definitely cried tears of joy that day.

    2018-05-25 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #316: Whitney Wolfe Herd — Founder and CEO of Bumble · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  28. So, my husband broke us back in an awful car accident a year ago, exactly a year ago, and he had, you know, they thought he was going to be a quadriplegic, they thought he was maybe going to die in surgery. Who knew what was going to happen? He was in critical condition for almost a week. hospital, I mean, I just didn't leave it. I stayed in that ICU with him the whole time. And this year, a year later, he was fortunate enough, obviously he's walking, thank God, and he's healthy and he's well. And we went back to the hospital exactly a year later. And he very generously with his family had donated the new intensive care center at the exact hospital and all of his nurses that took care of him for that week

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  29. Got some big news. Can't tell you about it, unfortunately. But I got some big news and I got the news in my office with two of my, you know, kind of closest allies and very, very early employees and key members of the team. And we all kind of freaked out and we were screaming in my office and HR came over and was like, what's wrong? Everyone's worried. What's going on in there? And I'm like, no, everything's great. Can't tell you what it is. You'll see in a month. But I actually cried tears of joy. It's just, it's awesome. When certain things come up that you felt were so far away in terms of them being obtainable or actually happening, but you've worked really, really, really, really, really hard to get there. When those two pieces collide into actual reality, it's just like such an emotional thing. I also cried tears of joy about a week ago.

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  30. Those memories would have been long experiences just would have been gone. Wow, that's fantastic. That's really interesting

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  31. And it's just a nice little leather notebook. And I just think taking notes actually is really, really therapeutic. And it's also incredibly productive. I mean, You'd be so shocked, and I know that you know this, but I was so shocked when I started just writing things down as they came up. And the stuff I was going back to that I had written down, I would have never in a thousand years remembered had I not written it down It's fascinating to see how much the human mind actually just disposes of. In terms of memory. And so I think that's a great little gift.

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  32. Also little Smithson journals. The little mini ones come in yellow with a B. I like to gift those to people on my team. Just their low price point. I think they're like $60 for actually a pretty big one. And you can actually have it monogrammed. Yeah.

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  33. Yeah, I think it can go a little higher than olive oil. Apparently, olive oil is bad for you. Okay, I don't want to go down this rabbit

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  34. Probably. Think is a cheap thing you should always have around. You know, you keep one in your bathtub, like next to your bathtub, you can put a big scoop of coconut oil in a hot bath. And it just nourishes your skin, and it's actually calming and relaxing. And then you keep one in the kitchen and do everything with it.

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  35. Everything. You can take a bath with it, you can put it in a smoothie, you can cook vegetables with it, you can actually put it on your skin. I think coconut oil is a cheap miracle buy.

    2018-05-25 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #316: Whitney Wolfe Herd — Founder and CEO of Bumble · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  36. And so even getting a piece of organic chicken, what you used to maybe think was good for you. Well, what is that chicken eating, right? And so. It's just this awful rabbit hole that you go down It's interesting and it's important to understand the effects on the planet and that's a conversation for another time.

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  37. Oh That's a crazy question. There is no default. It's whatever I can find generally. But now I'm trying to be more thoughtful. So the rules according to this guy are that everything you put in your body is essentially your health, right? And you are what you eat.

    2018-05-25 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #316: Whitney Wolfe Herd — Founder and CEO of Bumble · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  38. Well, a big thing for me as I've been working so much, I'm also starting to understand how health catches up. So for the first few years of Bumble, I mean, I was drinking every night, not at a club. I mean, I have not gone out. I've not been social like a normal 20-something year old since I started Bumble. Actually, I became almost a hermit. Became very reclusive, and I just wanted to be with my boyfriend who became fianc ⁇, now husband, and I just wanted to be with people that I really knew and trusted and I didn't want to go anywhere because I was so paranoid that everyone hated me or assumed these awful things about me that I genuinely just went to work, went home, maybe cooked dinner, maybe cried a little bit, maybe drank some wine, and that was it. This health thing has become

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  39. So he tells you plants are bad for you, essentially. And I don't know what it is about this book, but it Might be a little bit of hocus pocus, but I'm a full believer, and so I think I've sent that book to like a hundred people at this point.

    2018-05-25 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #316: Whitney Wolfe Herd — Founder and CEO of Bumble · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  40. It just gives you so much perspective. So that's one book. Another book that I've been gifting, and he should probably make me an ambassador. So if he listens to this, this book called The Plant Paradox. Have you heard of it? This will destroy your life in a good way. So, it's basically telling you that everything you've ever heard about health and wellness is completely false.

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  41. So back to the right time when it catches people at the right time, I actually read that book. When I graduated from college, I went and got a backpack at REI. Went to Asia for a couple to a few months. I have no concept of years or time anymore. And while I was over there, I spent time in Singapore and throughout several cities, but I also spent time solo at orphanages in northern Thailand, in Cambodia, and then did a lot of travel through that area. And that was the book I read on that trip. And so I think as you are sitting on this bus that breaks down with a bunch of local Cambodians eating crickets, reading chantaram, you're almost taking yourself out of everything you've ever known to be true. And understanding how big and vast and how great the world is around you and really how small one is, right?

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  42. I became obsessed with Chantram. Like, I tried to join a Shantram fan club online, like a book club. It got weird for a second. But the point is I loved Shantram and I loved that. Took you into this different element of human understanding. And I wanted my team to read it because I think it's actually a great marketing example how to build a product based on human behavior and how to understand people around you and what makes people tick. Not just what's the ROI on some billboard, right? And so I don't know what it is about that book. I can't summarize it in one sentence, but it just gives you a peek into the soul of humanity, if that makes sense. And so that's a book that I've gifted frequently and I love.

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  43. Yes, I have several different books, but two that we can talk about, something I've always gifted and just made. Kind of held close over the years is the book Shantaram. Have you read Shantaram?

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  44. To turn off a little bit at night. And instead of getting deep into your emails after you've come home from dinner, open a book. You know, read, detach, do something that is going to challenge your mind in a way that you're not being challenged all day long. And so that was the premise of it all. And, you know, as you grow, we're now approaching 100 employees here soon. It's very hard to do a check on how you're feeling every day. You can't really go around the room with, you know, so many people. And it's really hard to get everybody. Together for a book club when things are just going so fast.

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  45. How could we focus on kind of interesting insights from someone else? And so we did kind of a poll early on what books should we read together? Let's try to do a book club together. And this was at one of those pivotal moments of growth. And so it did not last very long. The book club. The book club did not last. But the intentions were good. The intentions were good. And everyone really liked the idea of trying to turn off another purpose of that was I was trying to encourage the team.

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  46. We were really a tiny team. We were still in our apartment, in our conference room was in a bathtub. And, you know, we were really just trying to keep the wheels turning. And I felt that a good mechanism of kind of keeping everyone as fast and as crazy as it was all going, keeping everyone on some form of a thread of commonality, you know, where there'd be something everyone could talk about together that wasn't bumble, right? So how could we? How could we have interesting conversation together as this small team that wasn't just like, okay, what are we going to do with our downloads? What new product are we going to do?

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  47. Whatever it might be. So, like we were saying earlier, internet time is like a different time zone from every other, you know, measure of time. When we were doing that, we were a team of something like six or seven.

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  48. Yeah, you know, I tried to get outside and take a walk and leave my phone and I found that that's really helpful and also sleep. Nothing is more Nourishing to your mind, body, and soul than a good night's sleep. And I think if you can have uninterrupted sleep for even If you can try to have a good seven, eight, nine hour sleep, it really changes the game.

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  49. To shift it, and you have to harness it and control it. And my husband's great about this too, you know. He's just like, what are your thoughts? Let's get your thoughts under control, you know, and how do we harness this and just, you know, focus on what's causing this and then how do we shift it into something that's positive versus you, you know, doing the self-doubt thing on repeat.

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  50. It definitely has become a handicap at points, but I would say 85% of the time it's a fuel. And actually, back to the doctor talk, my doctor said something really interesting to me, and it's something that stuck with me. I said to him one day, I was like, I don't know if I can deal with this anymore. My anxiety is just so extreme. It's paralyzing me at certain points. Do I need to get on a medicine? Do I need to be medicated for this? And he responded, just keep doing good work. It will recalibrate the way you feel. And when I thought through that and I was like, you know what? When I can just, if I can channel this energy and this anxiety and channel it into doing good work, meaning work that affects others in a positive way, it genuinely works.

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