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Will Hurd

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  1. “Yeah, and look, I don't think, I hope nobody ever says we've done enough, right? Because when you have an ongoing threat, you know what you know, you know what you don't know, but what you don't know you don't know is always the largest of those three categories. And so we should always be thinking about how we can be doing more because when your adversary does something and you respond, then they're going to do a counter move. And so that means we have to counter the counter move. And so we should never rest and think that we've achieved some mythical place of security because that place doesn't exist and it's always evolving.”

    2019-07-29 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 342 — Will Hurd · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  2. “It's a mixed message, but I can tell you this the people that are involved in protecting our country know the threat that Vladimir Putin and the SVR and the GRU opposed to our country. They know the threat that civil organizations like the IRA play. And these are the folks that are involved in the day-to-day. And I would also say there's a couple of bipartisan issues still left in Washington, D.C. And the threat that Russia is playing to our democracy is something that Republicans.”

    2019-07-29 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 342 — Will Hurd · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  3. “Every vote matters. If you try to influence, and I've been pretty aggressive in my opposition to what the Russians are doing around the world. And so we need to be mindful of this. And it's not just us, but it's with our allies.”

    2019-07-29 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 342 — Will Hurd · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  4. “Vladimir Putin wanted to erode trust in our institutions, and that was the overarching goal from the various intelligence agencies that were involved in this, as well as entities like the Internet Research Agency that perpetuated this stuff. And so that was, and every time we contribute and participate in this erosion of our institutions, Vladimir Putin is winning. And so that's why it's important that we try to put our swords down and talk about the strategy on how to deal with this. The intelligence community have made changes to ensure that intelligence that is being gathered is gotten to the folks in DHS and our Secretaries of States so that we can ultimately harden elections. And let me be frank, I won an election by 900.”

    2019-07-29 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 342 — Will Hurd · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  5. “And as we should, right? As we should. So what. What was the modus operandi of Vladimir Putin? We don't know that. I don't think, you know, I've seen a lot of the intelligence around this. I don't think we have credible intelligence to suggest why that is. But I would say one thing we do know.”

    2019-07-29 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 342 — Will Hurd · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  6. “It's a good question. I don't know the answer. Bob Mueller also said there was elements of when they meddled on behalf of Hillary Clinton as well, too. Not as much, but he made that statement at the intelligence committee. I don't know why. I know historically Vladimir Putin has disliked Hillary Clinton. I could make an argument that the decisions that were made under the State Department when she was running it was advantageous to the Russian government after they invaded eastern Ukraine, after they took over Crimea. There wasn't the level of response that I think the Russians thought they were going to get. But what was they angry?”

    2019-07-29 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 342 — Will Hurd · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  7. “And then now they realize that this has been a positive move because the Department of Homeland Security has been able to work with them on improving all the systems that are used in order to protect that information. And so there's been an evolution around this. And we should be, you know, if there's ways that we can improve our election system, then yes, we should be.”

    2019-07-29 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 342 — Will Hurd · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  8. “And I don't know the details of the bills that they're trying to debate and what the crux of the argument is. Just because a piece of legislation is said to be election security doesn't necessarily mean it's actually election security. So I don't know those bills specifically. But yes, this is something there is no question amongst Republicans and Democrats that the Russians tried to influence our election that we need to harden certain election infrastructure. And we've seen how the state's opinions have evolved since 2016. Under Jay Johnson in the Obama administration, he had decided that election infrastructure, the machines that count votes and all that was part of critical infrastructure. And originally, the secretaries of state, many of the Secretary of States, Republicans and Democrats, pushed back.”

    2019-07-29 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 342 — Will Hurd · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  9. “Yes, and we have, like in the House, we've passed since 2016 two tranches of funds to help homeland security with these issues. It's more than a half a billion dollars. I know I voted for. We should be making sure we're using the latest and greatest systems. But why wouldn't it?”

    2019-07-29 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 342 — Will Hurd · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  10. “It is, and they also in the time at 2016, we knew that they were trying to get access to some information that was actually public, some of the voter rolls. Part of that, I can make an argument that was probably to help target and refine their messaging to who they should be going after.”

    2019-07-29 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 342 — Will Hurd · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  11. “But the worst thing we could do was slow the train down, which nothing really scary about slowing a train down. But we were also able to hack into the PA system, into the stations. That's where you create true real pandemonium and you can use something in that PA system to cause panic. That's the equivalent of what Russians could potentially do. Merely saying they were trying to hack into the... We should point out that the”

    2019-07-29 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 342 — Will Hurd · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  12. “We talk about the vote counting machine, but you also have networks that connect a vote counting machines. And you know this well. There's a hundred thousand different voting entities in the United States of America. But you don't have to change the vote to create chaos. And I'll use an example. When I was in the cybersecurity business, one of my partners, they were doing a review of a subway company, like underground trains, right? And we could get into, we were able to hack into the actual train.”

    2019-07-29 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 342 — Will Hurd · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  13. “For sure, I would agree with that. I also think the FBI has recognized the mistakes and notifying people once they knew things that were going on. They wouldn't have, you know, this happened today. They would handle the situation differently than they did in 2016. And so we are still, when you have all these conversations about something that happened three years ago, a lot of changes have been made since then. And this also dovetails into election security. We talk about...”

    2019-07-29 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 342 — Will Hurd · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  14. “Should be having that same level of intensity. Words that often go together. Well, they should be boys to have those kinds of questions.”

    2019-07-29 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 342 — Will Hurd · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  15. “Yeah, for sure. And so we should be working with our allies on this. And disinformation is a part of covert action. Covert action is the responsibility of the Central Intelligence Agency, the CIA, my old employer. But the CIA is prevented from being involved in covert action in the United States of America because of a law called the National Security Act in 1947. So the entity best designed and organized to deal with covert action can't because they're not allowed to. And so who should be taking the lead? How do we coordinate this? And it's not only just a government issue. How do you tell someone or the press, hey, you reported on something that was actually a campaign by the Russian government to influence somebody, right? So you start getting into First Amendment issues. So this is why this conversation, and Congress is actually perfectly poised to deal with that.”

    2019-07-29 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 342 — Will Hurd · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  16. “Energy and effort having that conversation, and we're not talking about how do we counter the Russians? What are the Russians doing in eastern Ukraine and Crimea? How to deal with the Russians doing similar stuff in places like Estonia and Moldova? And so they are winning.”

    2019-07-29 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 342 — Will Hurd · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  17. “The Russians have been perfecting this for decades. And I've said prior to the 2016 election, I held a hearing on election security. And that was before the election. I've been talking about Russian disinformation since 2015 and that we need to be countering it. Grizzly step, which is what the intelligence community has referred to as the Russian trying to influence our election is going to go down in history in mother Russia as the greatest covert action campaign. Why? Because the goal was to erode trust in our democratic institutions. In two and a half years after that, we are still talking about our elections and the integrity of our elections. And we're spending time.”

    2019-07-29 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 342 — Will Hurd · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  18. “The threat is serious. The threat has been serious. And we need to be talking about a strategy on how to deal with the threat. And that threat specifically is disinformation That phrase has been thrown around a lot over the last couple weeks. And honestly, since 2016, disinformation is propaganda used to influence some type of desired outcome.”

    2019-07-29 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 342 — Will Hurd · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source