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“Hate save America is a crooked media production. The executive producer is Michael Martinez. Our associate producer is Jordan Waller. It's mixed and edited by Andrew Chadwick. Kyle Seglin is our sound engineer. Thanks to Tanya Sominator, Katie Long, Roman Papa Dimitrio, Caroline Rustin, and Justine Howe for production support, and to our digital team, Elijah Cohn, Narmel Konian, Yale Fried, and Milo Kim, who film and upload these episodes as videos every week.”
2021-03-01 · Pod Save America · "Bienvenidos a Orlando (with Will Smith!)" · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Thanks to Will Smith for joining us today. Come back anytime. Will Smith can co host the pod when one of us are out. How's that? That's great. We'll bring him on the road next.”
2021-03-01 · Pod Save America · "Bienvenidos a Orlando (with Will Smith!)" · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“That is the seal of approval right there. That's good. The docu series is amend the fight for America. Will Smith, you're the host and executive producer. Thank you so much for coming on Pod Save America. And take care.”
2021-03-01 · Pod Save America · "Bienvenidos a Orlando (with Will Smith!)" · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Okay, okay. So I have to ask, what was the conversation between you and my old boss, Barack Obama, like? Where he gave you the okay to play him in a biopic.”
2021-03-01 · Pod Save America · "Bienvenidos a Orlando (with Will Smith!)" · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“You've talked before about potentially getting into politics, sometimes talk, sometimes joked. What has made you think about entering politics and running and what so far has prevented you from taking the leap?”
2021-03-01 · Pod Save America · "Bienvenidos a Orlando (with Will Smith!)" · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I want to talk about that process. What would you say to young activists who might be frustrated and angry at the pace of progress since even this summer when the protest took place”
2021-03-01 · Pod Save America · "Bienvenidos a Orlando (with Will Smith!)" · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“You are one of the biggest, most successful celebrities in the world. You've also lived the experience of growing up as a black man in America. How have your personal experiences with racism and prejudice and discrimination sort of shaped your worldview?”
2021-03-01 · Pod Save America · "Bienvenidos a Orlando (with Will Smith!)" · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, what's always been fascinating to me is that even though we have consistently failed to live up to the ideals embedded in the Constitution, they are embedded in the Constitution specifically. And the 14th Amendment. And so even we don't live up to them. There are these documents saying, well, this is the North Star, which is quite valuable. How did the last four years of politics affect your perspective on 14th Amendment and debates around citizenship and equal protection under the law?”
2021-03-01 · Pod Save America · "Bienvenidos a Orlando (with Will Smith!)" · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Right. So the first episode is interesting in that it rightly centers Frederick Douglass as the American most instrumental in fighting for abolition and freedom and ultimately the 14th Amendment. You point out that Lincoln's belated embrace of the Emancipation Proclamation was more pragmatic than anything else. How did you all think about telling America's history in a way that was honest, even if it didn't always comport with the airbrushed version that's been taught in a lot of schools over the years?”
2021-03-01 · Pod Save America · "Bienvenidos a Orlando (with Will Smith!)" · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“What did you learn about the full history and reach of the 14th Amendment that most surprised you that you didn't know before the series”
2021-03-01 · Pod Save America · "Bienvenidos a Orlando (with Will Smith!)" · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So I'll admit when our producer first said that Will Smith is doing press for his new project, my reaction was, why the hell would he want to talk to a couple of political dorks like us? And then he told me it was all about the 14th Amendment. And I started watching and it is moving and insightful and beautifully produced. What attracted you to the project and how did it come together?”
2021-03-01 · Pod Save America · "Bienvenidos a Orlando (with Will Smith!)" · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“All right, enough about CPAC. When we come back, my interview with Will Smith. Will Smith is host and executive producer of Amend the Fight for America, a docu series which is now available on Netflix? Welcome to Pod Save America.”
2021-03-01 · Pod Save America · "Bienvenidos a Orlando (with Will Smith!)" · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, guess who immediately kissed Donald Trump's ass? Totally walked it back. After his speech, Nikki Haley. Great job, Nikki Haley.”
2021-03-01 · Pod Save America · "Bienvenidos a Orlando (with Will Smith!)" · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, everyone who's good, all these people who are like, I'm going to run to be the non Trump and to take back the Republican Party and save it. Like, good for you. I wish you well, but you're not going to do it well.”
2021-03-01 · Pod Save America · "Bienvenidos a Orlando (with Will Smith!)" · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I do think the numbers are fascinating because the fact that he only got 55% in the poll does mean that there's 45% that are like, you know, I like Donald Trump. I'm on the Trump train. Yeah, he won the election. Great. But yeah. I would try something else. I would love to know from those people what is it about him that you didn't like because that's the message for another Republican to use, even if it's subtle. It's a”
2021-03-01 · Pod Save America · "Bienvenidos a Orlando (with Will Smith!)" · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Right. Well, and that goes to, I mean, Tommy, you mentioned this polling earlier, so the straw poll with Trump in it. First of all, he had a 97% approval rating among the thousand or so attendees at CPAC. Not really a surprise there. 68% said they wanted him to run again. 55% said they'd vote for him again in the primaries given a list of other choices. You think those numbers are good or bad for Trump?”
2021-03-01 · Pod Save America · "Bienvenidos a Orlando (with Will Smith!)" · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Is removed. Republicans are not going to vote for this bill. So this is going to be the Titanic fight over the next year.”
2021-03-01 · Pod Save America · "Bienvenidos a Orlando (with Will Smith!)" · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, and you know, we've been talking about sort of what animates the Republican Party now and its grievance and it's a lot of these cultural issues, but CPAC also pulled their attendees about what issues are most important to them. Election integrity topped the list at 62%, beating issues like immigration, reopening the economy, Second Amendment, taxes, and abortion by 30 to 50 percent. It was a landslide. This is why they don't want to have a debate on a lot of these issues because their holding is like, we just want to make it so that, you know, it's harder for people to vote. They just want to overturn an election. That's what's animating them. So like, and again, progressives understand how important HR1 is and for the people act and people who paid close attention to it. But again, we've said this before, our biggest challenge here is like we've got to get more people to know what the stakes are, what this bill is, what's in it, and of course, like the only way it's going to get passed is if the Philippines.”
2021-03-01 · Pod Save America · "Bienvenidos a Orlando (with Will Smith!)" · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Very dangerous, it's very dangerous. It has backfired on them before, most notably in North Carolina, but they're going to do it for sure. So in addition to repeating the big lie, Trump specifically attacked H.R. 1, the For the People Act. Tommy, I saw you tweet about this. Why do you think he singled out a piece of legislation that's both extremely popular and largely unknown? Yeah.”
2021-03-01 · Pod Save America · "Bienvenidos a Orlando (with Will Smith!)" · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It's very depressing, though, on that issue, too. I would say that is an issue that is absolutely going to animate the Fox News loving base and pulls people like Stefanic towards Trump's position on that. That is not an issue, I think, that you go into the suburbs with as a winning issue for Republicans who are trying to win back some of these moderate districts. And that's just going to be a thing that like, you know, it's like the cancel culture stuff, right? Like this is, if you're just mainlining Fox News, this is what gets you going.”
2021-03-01 · Pod Save America · "Bienvenidos a Orlando (with Will Smith!)" · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Things don't go as well. The economy doesn't improve as quickly. Then Trump's best shtick is I'm the outsider just fucking throwing bombs and saying that everything that's fucked up in the country”
2021-03-01 · Pod Save America · "Bienvenidos a Orlando (with Will Smith!)" · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“There is so far, and we have a long way to go, there is zero indication that this man is going to skip the 2024 election and bow out of this. This is like, this is his party. This is what animates him. And it's like you said, Lovett, because he doesn't have to, and the party doesn't have to talk about the boring issues, the serious issues, the issues that may be unpopular for them, like the COVID relief bill. All they have to do is it's all about talking about the fun stuff, talking about the grievances, right? And I did think to myself as I watch this, you can sort of see why Joe Biden and his administration is focused solely on fixing the pandemic and fixing the economy, right? Because things go well, things get better over the next couple years, then all of this grievance from Trump doesn't really matter as much. It's not as powerful because people are just feeling that life is back to normal in their lives are better. But...”
2021-03-01 · Pod Save America · "Bienvenidos a Orlando (with Will Smith!)" · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Owning the lips. We've said this owning the lips is the platform. That's the driving force of the party. Just owning the libs. They don't care about policy outcomes at this point. Trump himself took the stage on Sunday night to deliver a 90-minute speech that was somehow boring, terrifying, and enraging all at once. First 45 minutes or so, we're focused on attacking President Biden, Democrats, the media, immigrants, and transgender Americans, to whom he was particularly cruel. And that was the on-message part of the speech that his advisors reportedly wanted him to deliver. Things really went off the rails when he repeated the lie that the election was stolen, attacked the Supreme Court, attacked every Republican who voted to impeach him by name, and then announced that he may run again in 2024. Here is a compilation from Trump's speech.”
2021-03-01 · Pod Save America · "Bienvenidos a Orlando (with Will Smith!)" · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It's actually an inverse relationship with how many people got COVID in your state. More COVID cases, the better to DeSantis and Just crush”
2021-03-01 · Pod Save America · "Bienvenidos a Orlando (with Will Smith!)" · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So, we're going to talk about the polling Tommy mentioned with Trump in it, but they also did one version of their 2024 straw poll without Trump. And the big winner was Florida Governor Ron DeSantis with 43%. South Dakota Governor Christy Noam had 11%. Don Jr. had 8%. Mike Pompeo, 7%, Ted Cruz 7%, Tucker Carlson 3%. What was your reaction to those results and what they say about sort of where the party is going? Love it, what do you think?”
2021-03-01 · Pod Save America · "Bienvenidos a Orlando (with Will Smith!)" · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Love it. My view was we'll talk about Trump in a second, but whether or not he leads the party, it's his party. It's his issues. It's 100% culture wars, identity wars, anti-elite, grievance politics, anti-democratic to the core. Like if you were pissed about something, no matter what the issue is, it's Democrats' fault. The party of like Paul Ryan and Mitt Romney that cared about no regulations and tax cuts and all that is fucking gone. That is way, way gone. There's none of that shit that animates that party anymore.”
2021-03-01 · Pod Save America · "Bienvenidos a Orlando (with Will Smith!)" · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“That's all I wanted to know. Before we get to Trump, Tommy, what did you think about the rest of CPAC and particularly what it said about the message Republicans intend to run on in 2022, 24, and beyond?”
2021-03-01 · Pod Save America · "Bienvenidos a Orlando (with Will Smith!)" · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So far in the weeds to even get some of the references, I didn't even get the whole Muppet thing. What the, I don't know what happened with the Muppets.”
2021-03-01 · Pod Save America · "Bienvenidos a Orlando (with Will Smith!)" · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Was Ted Cruz doing his best Howard Dean impression from Jesus horrible hated it also making a joke about Cancun you have to be”
2021-03-01 · Pod Save America · "Bienvenidos a Orlando (with Will Smith!)" · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Let's talk about this weekend's conservative political action conference in Orlando, where Donald Trump delivered his first speech since leaving office even before the former president showed up. CPAC was nuttier than usual. The pandemic relief bill was barely mentioned. The pandemic itself was barely mentioned at the indoor event. The theme of the conference was America Uncance. And as the Washington Post, Dave Weigel pointed out, quote, the Republican Party on display at CPAC was anti-monopoly, anti-free trade, skeptical of foreign wars, girded for economic conflict with China, and frequently invested in things that aren't true. Specifically, most speakers continue to spread the big lie that Donald Trump actually won an election that was rigged and stolen from him by Democrats. Just two months after that lie led a mob of Trump supporters to launch a terrorist attack on Congress. And of course, the speeches were mostly filled with your crazy uncle's Facebook memes come to life. Here's a sample.”
2021-03-01 · Pod Save America · "Bienvenidos a Orlando (with Will Smith!)" · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And I should say we're all $15 minimum wage supporters, and I'm going to be very disappointed if it doesn't end up in the final bill. But it's a great bill. I mean, it is a recovery package that is double the one that we passed in 2009, cutting child poverty in half, the expanded unemployment benefits through the fall. I mean, this is a really, really progressive, ambitious bill, even without the minimum wage. It's going to help a lot of people, and it's going to hopefully get done really fast. So that is something to think about as well.”
2021-03-01 · Pod Save America · "Bienvenidos a Orlando (with Will Smith!)" · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And, you know, all the Democrats in the House and the Senate and work it out and try to figure this out because I do like I do think at some point and maybe it's not this bill for some of the reasons you cite love it because there's a lot more there's another reconciliation bill that will happen there's other non-reconciliation bills that will happen so maybe progressives want to sort of hold their fire for next time but at some point progressives will probably exercise as much of their power as Joe Manchin and Kirsten Sin will exercise their power And they should”
2021-03-01 · Pod Save America · "Bienvenidos a Orlando (with Will Smith!)" · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I find persuasive from some of the progressives in the houses, it always seems to be the progressives who have to back down and compromise and sort of get in line. But they have power here. Like Nancy Pelosi lost two Democrats on the first bill, not progressive Democrats, but to more moderate Democrats, moderate to conservative Democrats. But she doesn't have that many votes to spare here. So if a couple progressives in the House get together and say, if you don't try to overrule the parliamentarian or you don't try to put some kind of minimum wage increase in this bill, we're not going to vote for the final bill. Then it's not just caring about what Manchin and Cinema want and the more moderate to conservative Democrats. It's saying like, okay, we got to keep the progressives happy and we got to keep Joe Manchin and Kirsten Cinema happy. Now, love it. I do agree that is it helpful and productive for all of this to play out in public? Probably not. But everyone can get in a room or get on a Zoom.”
2021-03-01 · Pod Save America · "Bienvenidos a Orlando (with Will Smith!)" · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I guess what I don't understand is you're right that there's just not the votes for a $15 minimum wage, no matter how many parliamentarians you fire overrule or do whatever. You're not going to get a $15 minimum wage because Joe Mitchin said he's against it. Therefore, that's it. But Joe Manchin did say he would possibly be for raising the minimum wage from around $7 is what it is now to $11, I believe. I sort of wondered why the Biden administration and progressives just didn't sort of sit down with Manchin and Cinema and be like, okay, what level of minimum wage would you be comfortable with? And then like, how can we all get there together, right? Because I'd rather take it, I take an $11 over what it is now, even though I want $15. I think that's better than nothing. So I'm sort of unless they're just going to live to fight another day. But you're right that all of this comes down to, unfortunately, the system we have right now. It's like what Joe Manchin and Kirsten Cinema and possibly any other Democratic”
2021-03-01 · Pod Save America · "Bienvenidos a Orlando (with Will Smith!)" · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Now you have to deal with that. Because to me it seems like and Jen Saki at the briefing today said we don't intend to overrule the parliamentarian, which I guess firing the parliamentarian would not be the Biden administration. Schumer can do that on his own. Again, these things have been done before by Democrats and Republicans in recent history, 2013, 2017, 2001 for firing a parliamentarian. George Bush did that. The world didn't end. Everything was fine. Things got passed. We all moved on. No one remembers the great firing of the parliamentarian or the overruling of the parliamentarian. So why not just try it and then let Manchin and cinema take the heat”
2021-03-01 · Pod Save America · "Bienvenidos a Orlando (with Will Smith!)" · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Love it. Here's what I don't understand. So I think that on the option where you either fire the parliamentarian or overrule the parliamentarian from the Biden administration's perspective, they're thinking, okay, we can do that, but we still have to face Joe Manchin and Kirsten Cinema. And even if we can get it in the final package, what if those two say, we're going to tank this whole bill because you overrule the parliamentarian or fired the parliamentarian? We don't think we're trying to uphold norms here. That's what they're big on the norms. But so I get that, but why not try and then sort of just put the ball on their court?”
2021-03-01 · Pod Save America · "Bienvenidos a Orlando (with Will Smith!)" · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So, the question is what happens now? Democrats have a few options. One, Vice President Kamala Harris in her role as the Senate's presiding officer overrules the parliamentarian, which Democrats and Republicans have both done in the past as recently as 2013. Two, Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer can replace the parliamentarian with someone who will give Democrats a favorable ruling, which Republicans did to pass George Bush's tax cuts in 2001. Three, Senate Democrats can vote to eliminate the filibuster and just pass the whole bill that way. Four, Democrats can try Ron Wyden and Bernie Sanders' idea to tax big companies that don't pay a $15 minimum wage and incentivize small businesses that do, though they have now reportedly abandoned this plan. Or five, they can all give up and try to do this some other time. Tommy, what do you think? What are the pros and cons of some of these options? And what do you think they should do? We should say that right now it looks like they have chosen five.”
2021-03-01 · Pod Save America · "Bienvenidos a Orlando (with Will Smith!)" · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“We had the CBO on our side. We'll see your Senate procedural nerd, and we'll raise you a CBO score. Congressional Budget Office, also a nonpartisan scorekeeper, as we used to say in our speeches for Barack Obama. The nonpartisan scorekeeper at the CBO. And then you'd be like, oh, yeah, well, everyone has to pay attention to that person. Republicans were like, yeah, fuck that. We don't care, but not us, not us Democrats. When the Senate parliamentarian speaks. But your rule followers.”
2021-03-01 · Pod Save America · "Bienvenidos a Orlando (with Will Smith!)" · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“For the reconciliation process, which allows legislation to pass with 51 votes instead of a filibuster-proof 60. Lovett, why were Democrats, especially Budget Committee Chairman Bernie Sanders, cautiously optimistic that the parliamentarian would rule in their favor on this?”
2021-03-01 · Pod Save America · "Bienvenidos a Orlando (with Will Smith!)" · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I think you're right on the obstruct Biden, no matter what strategy, which is, of course, the same strategy they ran against Barack Obama in 2009. And you can argue with some success, of course, in the 2010 midterms. I think on this legislation specifically, they're thinking if things don't improve by 2022, if the vaccination rollout does not go smoothly, if the pandemic is still around, if the economy is still bad, then if you voted no, you can blame Biden in this bill and say that you had no part on it. If things do improve, then you can just pretend the bill never happened and you can fight on other issues that are more politically favorable to you, like some of the issues that we're going to talk about that were raised at CPAC. That seems to me the calculation there. So the $15 minimum wage was included in the version of the bill that passed the House, but it may not survive now that Senate parliamentarian Elizabeth McDonough has advised that the provision does not have a big enough effect on the federal budget to qualify.”
2021-03-01 · Pod Save America · "Bienvenidos a Orlando (with Will Smith!)" · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Tommy, what do you think the calculation was there for someone in a moderate district that Joe Biden won if you're a Republican voting no?”
2021-03-01 · Pod Save America · "Bienvenidos a Orlando (with Will Smith!)" · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Let's get to the news. Early Saturday morning, the House of Representatives approved President Biden's $1.9 trillion American rescue plan. It includes fourteen hundred dollar direct payments, an extra $400 per week and unemployment benefits through the fall, a tax credit that would cut child poverty, and half and hundreds of billions of dollars for vaccinations, schools, and state and local governments. The bill passed $219 to $212 with zero Republican votes and two Democratic defections. Were you guys surprised that not a single House Republican voted for a piece of legislation supported by nearly 70% of Americans, not even the Republicans who represent districts that Biden want. Love it. What do you think the calculation was there?”
2021-03-01 · Pod Save America · "Bienvenidos a Orlando (with Will Smith!)" · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It was hard because I felt the same way I was actually talking with Tanya about this before, right after the interview. Like, I feel like so much of our childhood, just we're that age was Will Smith, fresh prince, all of his movies. There's famous.”
2021-03-01 · Pod Save America · "Bienvenidos a Orlando (with Will Smith!)" · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Check it out. Be sure to also check out the latest episode of Rubicon where Brian Boyler and Matt Iglesias have a thoughtful, informative discussion and debate over President Biden's promise to forgive student loan debt. And over on our YouTube channel, check out a fantastic new video featuring our political director Shaniqua McClendon. She interviewed representatives James Clyburn, her former boss, Alma Adams, and Corey Bush about their experiences at historically black colleges and universities shaped their perspectives and impacted their careers. Check it out.”
2021-03-01 · Pod Save America · "Bienvenidos a Orlando (with Will Smith!)" · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“On today's pod, I talked to Will Smith. Yes, that Will Smith about his new docu series on the 14th Amendment. Before that, we'll talk about the next steps on COVID relief now that a $15 minimum wage may not be included in the final legislation. We'll also talk about what went down at CPAC over the weekend, including Donald Trump's first speech since leaving office and his threat to run again. But first, a few quick housekeeping notes. Love it. Tell us about the show this weekend.”
2021-03-01 · Pod Save America · "Bienvenidos a Orlando (with Will Smith!)" · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source