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Yulia Navalnaya

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  1. “I never wanted and I don't want to meet Vladimir Putin. And to say the truth that I don't have any wish to meet him because from my experience and for experience of my family he all the time lies, he all the time betray. That's why I don't think that I would love to speak with him or I have anything to tell him.”

    2025-02-17 · The Rest Is Politics: Leading · 121. Yulia Navalnaya: The Woman Who Could Bring Down Putin · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  2. “I think that the most right answer will be that Vladimir Putin is not Russia and Russia is not Vladimir Putin. It's very important to remember that there are a lot of people who are against this regime, who are against Vladimir Putin, who are against the war. When you live in democratic country and you have a president, you think that and you believe that he has been chosen by majority of population of your country, but it's not the same in Russia. We don't have elections. You can watch on TV the reports about elections, but they can just change everything. And let's be honest, there are no democracy. Democratic countries where the president got 80% of votes.”

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  3. “This year, really, and after the war in Ukraine continues more two years. So I think that situation with sanctions. I'm not talking about more sanctions. I want these sanctions would be done with more wisdom. In understanding what, okay, we are doing these sanctions, they need to bring to somewhere, but they are just, I don't think I can see any strategy about these sanctions and where the people who import these sanctions want the sanction will bring and what could be changed. And about Donald Trump, well, we'll see just the beginning.”

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  4. “Everything the same in Moscow. Everything you can buy those sanctions just don't work. I don't know. I think that if you impose sanctions, you just need to take a look sometimes what's going on. Especially, I was really surprised this autumn that they were very proud news that they will impose sanctions against Russia today. The biggest propaganda channel”

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  5. “For example, how many years, probably 18 years ago when Putin in Munich security conference had his infamous speech about confrontation with the West. So he sent the signal. Nothing has been done. Then in 2014, there was an action of Crimea. Nothing has been done. It sounds like joke because sanctions were imposed at that time against probably about thirty people like local officials in Crimea. It sounds really weird. Putin doesn't care about these local officials in Crimea. When the war has started, do you remember there were like a lot of sanctions imposed, a lot of brands clothed their shirts? Jobs to say, like, we are not going to work with Russia any longer and so on. What happened now?”

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  6. “Many questions in one starting from the meeting with Joe Biden, it was very good one and I appreciate his support, I appreciate his sincere words. We had very long conversation, probably more than one hour before we were told it would be like 20 minutes, but still we started to talk and we talked a lot. Speaking about sanctions, it's just not about America, it's about European Union and all countries which impose sanctions. I think that it's not about the war with Ukraine. It started many years ago.”

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  7. “It's again bringing us back to the question about when I told you that now for me it's not about vision of economic and everything. Ladin is in 25 years in power. I am absolutely open in any discussions about economic and some kind of social things in Russia because I think that it's really very important now to change this regime and to bring Russia back to democracy. So and we'll come back I hope that we have like Wide range of opposition, and we will have all these discussions. It's a long, long way to bring it to the right direction.”

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  8. “Political objectives, as I have already told you, to bring the situation in any ways to make Putin's regime fallen as soon as possible, to apply to Russian peoples. I think that people in Russia now in a kind of internal exile very depressed and very scared of all the situation and all these things, people, especially people inside Russia. Mostly my husband supporters who became now my supporters they in Russia and it's very important for me to keep this connection with them.”

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  9. “Now I'm seeing that I have in this field not very good prediction because now I think that first of all it's my feeling that whichever threats he sends still it's very important not to fret on him because he's just sometimes trying to scare people just to show his power but he doesn't do all of his threats But from the other side to say the truth I've never thought that he would start the war with Ukraine I thought that it's like not possible who like who would support the war with your neighbor and with your friend but it happened”

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  10. “Means a lot. It's terrible, awful war, which should never be gone. I think that's about Vladimir Putin's vision of not just Russia, but his country. I think that he is dreaming about back to Soviet Union. That's why this signal to some old people who are dreaming again about this period, like how powerful and big Russia was, it signal for them. I don't know, we will see what will it mean in future, but I think that it's awful situation. Of course, we were neighboring countries, we still neighboring countries, but we were very close. And of course, the situation is absolutely awful, terrible. And I I'm really sorry that still the world politicians couldn't do anything to put bigger pressure on Putin to stop this war. I think that it has been done few to stop it.”

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  11. “Of course, absolutely this book is very important in general. It's about his legacy. It's about how many people Now, can read about him through his view about our country and to understand he was. Speaking about the details, how it was picked all together and so on, it was very difficult because a part of the book he wrote very fast because he was really good writer also in Germany but then it was really really complicated to get some kind of these diaries the part with diaries from the prison of course”

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  12. “I'm not speaking about my letters. I could write anything just very simple things about my regular life, but they could censor it. I think of course it was about isolation. They wanted to isolate him from the people. They knew that he is so charismatic. He is such a strong politician. He is very good in convincing people. He's very nice in speaking people. That's why there were just few people all the time the same people around him. That's it. And there were no any prisoners with whom he was able to communicate at all. He all the time was alone.”

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  13. “And he wasn't allowed all the food they brought him to this room. He wasn't allowed to lie on the bed all the day. And he wasn't allowed, almost wasn't allowed to have any meetings. Like we have short meetings and long meetings with his family for more than one year. He wasn't allowed to make a telephone calls at all. All the letters from him and to him were censored. For example speaking about Dasha, she wrote him about her university, about courses, which she's going to take for another semester. And they just burned this letter saying that it's like a kind of things which he couldn't get.”

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  14. “I will start from then probably from the last panel colony because he has changed several not he but he was moved from one to another but he asked me a really funny question who else was in this panel colony Because usually when we speak about penal colony, we can imagine the group of people who are living together or work together. We can imagine nice, for example, sport yard, which we usually see in American Hollywood movies, it's not the same in Russia. Sometimes it's the same, but for my husband, they did the most severe conditions which could be it was a small room, a really small like three to three meters. Then it was another room, not a yard, just another room where he was able to walk. This room just didn't have roof. That's it.”

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  15. “Well, it's difficult to explain. I don't think that I'm in this kind where I want to be very open and very emotional. I think that Of course, it will stay with me, or not, I think, I'm sure that it will stay with this grief, with me all the life. What life is continuing, and I need to do everything what is possible. You know, to cope the grief, all this work, all this Alexi's legacy helps me a lot, of course.”

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  16. “Thank you so much for your kind words about Dasha, as you understand. I am very proud, really. And as you said, she knew the news about Alexis death from you. The same with me because he was in such situation and in such far penal colony that it wasn't possible to get anything from him, especially last half a year. It was very strong censorship. His lawyers were imprisoned last autumn when he was in prison. So it was really, really complicated. And they sent him to such a far panel colony that it wasn't possible even to visit him every day. So I got everything from the news as well.”

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  17. “For a child in a full family with normal life very hard. And for the heart it's much more harder, I understand it. I'm trying to support him as well as I can.”

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  18. “I think that they worry about me very much. Understand it. Dasha whom Alistair met. She has grown up. She's more different than daughter. So she supports a lot. She really supports me everywhere in everything I'm doing. She's smart. She is a person to whom I now can come and ask her advice. Zahar, he is just 16. He's teenager. That's why he has his special view of life. He's very nice. He's very supportive as well, and it's difficult for me and of course for them, you know, we were very good family when we were four of us, we were together. And of course just to realize that you don't have your father any longer, it's very difficult for any child. For example, Zahar, he So Alexei, the last time when he was 12. And now he's 16. So all his teenagers years, which are very hard even.”

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  19. “I understand, but I think that my husband taught me not to think about it too much. It's important to do what you think is right and continue to do. Of course, after Alexis' murder, I feel even much more responsibility than before. Because before he was politician and I was his wife and also big supporter. But now, of course, I feel responsibility for him, for our children, for our country to do whatever I can to stop everything what Vladimir Putin had already done is doing and will do.”

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  20. “Very dangerous because Russia is a huge country. There are a lot of people live there and to bring and to discuss and to show them that democratic countries and to have democracy in the country is very important. It was very important. But in many reasons, I don't know really why it happened, but in many reasons it happened. And I see my main aim to do everything every day. You know, speaking with you, to remind about Russia, to be on any kind of conferences, doing some kind of statements and so on, to be more loud and to remember what's going on in Russia in political way and Vladimir Putin is dictator.”

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  21. “Know by now it's very difficult to plan anything because while Vladimir Putin is in power, everything is absolutely unpredictable. Nobody could, not nobody, but a lot of people probably more than 1 million people left country after the war has started. I don't think those people ever thought to happen in another countries. That's why it's very difficult to speak about some kind of plan. Let's be honest nobody has this plan, but if I even had this plan, I wouldn't tell you because of many reasons, but it's not possible now. For me, it's absolutely different. We need to be loud. We need to attract all the attention to Russia. I think that last years Russia had been forgotten and it's very...”

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  22. “It's not about person. It's about procedure. So we need to do everything by ourselves and to ask both community as well to help us. But of course I understand it's about Russian people, first of all, to make everything Vladimir Putin will gun. And after that, it's about fair elections. As I have already said, I'm not thinking about persons. I'm thinking about fair elections and procedures to make all these procedures democratic.”

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  23. “Say the truth is almost not possible to do anything inside Russia against Putin because you will be thrown in prison. You know probably the cases when people happen to be in prison just for standing on the street alone, like lonely protest with the sheet of papers where it's written no war and they are taken prison for these, they could be in prison for likes in social media, they could be in prison of course for the post in social media. That's why of course situation inside Russia very difficult speaking political situation I mean for position that's why the most loudspeakers now of course in exile.”

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  24. “Know it's very easy to answer because comparing to old democratic countries like the United States or United Kingdom or countries in European Union, you have different political parties. You have supporters in these parties and people have competitions in elections. In Russia, situation is absolutely different. We have Vladimir Putin who is dictator, who is in power for 25 years. And the easiest thing to explain what my husband wanted for Russia to become back democratic country with freedom of speech, with fair elections, with people who won in elections and sometimes probably those people are not very pleasant for you. It should be changeable. So Alexei just wanted democratic, pro-European Russia.”

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  25. “The risks, but you know, sometimes the history makes the other direction. Of course, we knew and it was really very realistic that he would happen to be in prison, but about murdering we never thought or probably not to think.”

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  26. “You probably asking me this question because you never met Alexei because I knew that it's very important for him. It's not just words to come back to Russia, to be the example for all these people. It's not, you know, about usually you're doing some things of course to show the example. He wanted to be this example. He was this example for all these people and he was sure that people are watching him and he knew that he must be in this first row. Of course we knew that it could be dangerous. Of course we are not crazy until it wasn't crazy at all. He was very rational in a good way and he of course I think he waited.”

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  27. “Quickly was blocked from everywhere. He all the time was trying to new sources from which he is able to bring this information to his supporters and to attract new people. For example, when we were coming back from Germany after his poisoning to him told me very seriously and I was a little bit scared that he believes in TikTok and TikTok is a very big platform now and he is going to develop and put a lot of attention in TikTok because he thinks that it's very important platform now in Russia and it's very important for him. Why I was scared because he usually tries to involve me in such kind of things and I was just expecting how I need to do a lot of TikToks to think top on my mouth or to change my clothes probably. every day”

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  28. “And I just loved it, and I liked Alexei's jokes, and I think that he did with social media very well. But it's also because coming back to your question about how social media has changed the world and many other things, like other medias. For example, again about my husband, why it happened? Because when he became a popular politician, He was blocked from everywhere. That's why he has no choice to use new social media, and he was in this case very lucky to leave this time, because otherwise, you know, when you have just radio blocked TV, blocked, then you don't have any other sources. And he very...”

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  29. “Sense a lot because, for example, my husband is a very good example to explain it. And he started like blogger and in live journal, if you remember, it was such a platform and it was very popular in Russia. Then he started many of other social media, but especially Twitter, he really liked Twitter. And I think that he was very good in it. And Twitter was very good platform. And I liked it very much because it was all the time very easy to get information very fast. It was very easy to find all the news. And it was obvious that people who write on Twitter and have a lot of subscribers, they are very good in putting together all the thoughts when it was able just to put short tweets.”

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  30. “Life that he was really person who really believed in everything he was doing. That's why, you know, I just realized very quickly that it's very important to support him. He's doing the right things. He wants to make Russia a better place. He wants to do all the work a better place. That's why I just wanted to support him. And I almost never had any fears. Probably once or twice, but it's not about arrests or searches.”

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  31. “You know, as we started our conversation from our young years, I would say I almost never thought about or had any fear because we grow up together. It's not just about our age. It's about Alexis' political growing. That's why I think it not like, you know, it became suddenly. I've seen it from day to day. Like he became popular blogger. Like he became the blogger who has supporters. Like he became the person who established small NGO anti-corruption NGO. Like he became candidate of mayor of Moscow. Like he became the person who established the biggest NGO anti-corruption NGO in Russia. Like he started to have not like, you know, couple thousands of supporters, but a dozen of thousands.”

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  32. “that he understand that he is just one person, and I believe that he believes in it, that he is just one person who can bring Russia to beautiful future. And of course it's very dangerous and it's very awful because when the one person stays in power more than 25 years, by the way, could you imagine? Of course you believe in everything you do. Of course you understand like your position like the ones we can call it whatever leader president but you just understand that you are able to do whatever you want to stay in power, to keep your power.”

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  33. “Well, let's be honest, I've never seen Vladimir Putin. Probably it's for the best. But from my point of view, nobody wants to be called a mafia boss. Of course, he wants to be a leader of country. He behaves now like Tsar. Of course it's over that he takes a lot of decisions just by him on. And it's, you know, like this. Probably he is asking for some kind of advice but people around him just want to be on the same side and to show him their full loyalty. That's why everything what he is asking for, they are doing he wants to be a kind of really like one leader of the country.”

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  34. “Soviet Union. It was obvious that he is going to bring it back to Russia. So no, we never thought in our family. We never thought that there could be any positive changes after Putin became a president.”

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  35. “Very good question because a lot of people were very excited when Putin became the president or I would say even in power like prime minister the first time because comparing to Yeltsin who still we should agree broad democracy but after that there were some problems with him but still Putin was very young very active very enthusiastic and people who were less involved in politics and just seeing this young strong full of strength men and they were hoping that it would change a lot but it wasn't with us like this because of course as people who were a little bit more involved in politics we knew that everybody knew but still Putin is Kijib officer and all this structure which was”

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  36. “He was all the time involved in politics a lot and when we met we discussed politics a lot. I think it was one of the reasons why he married. Me, because it was interesting for him to discuss politics with close friends and then girlfriend and then wife. And I interested in politics all my life as well. And when Vladimir Putin became a president the first time, he just came to me one day said like, you know, I really probably remember this moment like, you know, I decided to go to be more involved in politics, like not kitchen talks, but to participate to one of the at that time pro-democratic parties. And I want to do something because I'm against this regime. From the first step, I'm against Putin and it's very important for me to do this.”

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  37. “Well, it's better to add them, but of course you're right, but I don't think it's about living in Russia because Russia is their home country. It's about terrible situation and terrible tragedy which happened in their life. But the old people, they spent all their life in Russia. They don't want to change country. My mom still works. And I think that... It keeps her to be strong. She has a lot of friends and to leave country now. I don't think it's a choice for her and for Alexia's parents. I think that the same, but also of course it's very important for them to be close to Alexei, to the cemetery and of course like fault people it means a lot.”

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  38. “My mom is engineer, she was born in Moscow, my father was born in Moscow as well. He's engineer as well too. My father died when I was 18. My mom, she still lives in”

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  39. “You know, me and Alexei, we grow up in Soviet Union. Our childhood was in Soviet Union, but our formation, as I can call it, when we were teenagers. So Soviet Union fallen. So we are children of Perestroika, I could say. And Alexey and me, we have very simple families, normal families, but families who were very involved in politics because there were years when everybody was involved in politics in Russia, but there were few years, unfortunately.”

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  40. “I was trying not to be just think about family. Of course, it was my priority. It's still my priority, especially now after Alexis, but still, of course, it was all the time, like sharing the views, understanding that it's very important everything what my husband had been doing for a long, long time.”

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  41. “Wow, we started from such a long, long time back things. Well, I was born in Moscow. I spent all my life in Moscow. I never thought that I will change the country of living. I wanted to live in my own country. I love my country like my husband very much. I was born very like simple Soviet family. I graduated from a university where I studied international relations. I worked a little bit in banks there, but then very soon after that I married to my husband. He started to work in politics and we just realized that because of searches, because of all political pressure which we got very, very quickly and many years ago. I carried about family more and I was very happy to help my husband to be very confident in it. I hope that he knew that he had a strong back.”

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  42. “Thank you very much, Alistair, and it's a great pleasure to be on your podcast. I should be honest. I have some friends in Great Britain. And so before you suggested me to join you, they told me many of them that they hear your podcast. And it's the best political podcast in Great Britain. So I'm very thrilled. But from the other side, I'm very scared. But still, it's a great honor to join you. There is just a small remark. You said that my husband was dead, but I would say he was killed by Vladimir Putin, and I will continue to repeat it. It's very important to know that Vladimir Putin is not just dictator. He is Mafia Boss. He is murder, he is a war crime, and it's Very important to remember about this. Thank you.”

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