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Zarah Sultana

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first: 2025-10-31
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“That's a very good question. I would like to think it will be the most successful band that came out of the UK. So I'm going to have to go Beatles. Actually, one direction, were they more successful? I'm going to stick with the Beatles because of Liverpool. Liverpool.”
2025-10-31 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · Life after Labour: Zarah Sultana on Palestine, Farage and 'Your Party' · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Boy bands, I was West Life Backstreet Boys. Then it became one direction. So it's just that trajectory of boy bands. I was a big Justin Bieber fan back in the day as well. I was a Belieber.”
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“It's very embarrassing, it's very basic, but I love it. You know, Taylor Swift, Joy Crooks, some Jade Thurwell, some Sound Fender, Lewis Capoldi. I love one direction, yeah.”
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“And music. So I'm listening to a lot of music. I listen, I'm a pop girly, I love pop, but also married at first sight at the moment is.”
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“I actually get on quite a bit with Danny Kruger. I waved to Lee Anderson today, but I don't think we would see eye to eye on a lot of things.”
2025-10-31 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · Life after Labour: Zarah Sultana on Palestine, Farage and 'Your Party' · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I have legitimate concerns about what a Nigel Farage government would do to trade unionists, to working class communities, to minority communities, to LGBT people. And what I've seen in government is Nigel Farage and his colleagues. Like I said, vote against trade union rights, vote against anything that would actually help our working class communities. So yes, he's a danger.”
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“Well, I think the way that him and his colleagues have behaved in Parliament, where they have voted against trade union rights, where they are committed to peddle racism, to attack our rights, I do think he has all the features of a fascist politician. And I think it's important that we stop a fascist reform government. When someone attacks trade union rights, when they are not supportive of minority communities, where they are trying to get us out of the ECHR so they can get away with anything and there is no state accountability, we can see what's happening across Europe and that is a dissent into fascism.”
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“I think Nigel Farage has proven that he is not on the side of working class people and that reform is just another wing of the establishment and what we will see them if they enter government, which I'm committed to stop, is more privatization, more deregulation, more tax cuts for the super wealthy, and more austerity for the rest of the country.”
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“I'm in politics because of a desire to change people's lives for the better, and that means winning state power. That means actually running government. That means nationalizing, that means building council homes, that means providing people with the good, secure jobs that they deserve, all of those things mean winning power. And that's what I'm committed to. But that will take building a party, organizing, knocking on millions of doors and articulating our politics.”
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“The vision we are the party of the left, and we have to build, and we're starting from very humble beginnings, but this isn't a three, four-year project. This is a 10, 20, 30, 40 year project. Fascinating.”
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“I mean, the Labour Party probably should have worried about that before it enabled genocide and passed through austerity. And the Labour Party actually was quite content because it thought the left had nowhere else to go. And now the left has choices and it's about the Labour Party. Investing in our communities, ending all forms of austerity and privatization, actually rebuilding the country and making people's lives materially better.”
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“I like Zach Polanski. I like the Greens, and I think we will be working together to stop reform. And there will be those alliances and those electoral pacts in the future. I think it's too early to talk about them. But we are a different party.”
2025-10-31 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · Life after Labour: Zarah Sultana on Palestine, Farage and 'Your Party' · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I tried in the Labour Party, I was told that the Labour Party is a broad church and people disagree with each other, but Keir Starmer told the left, if you don't like it, leave. So that's what I did because that Labour Party has become unrecognizable to me, which is, you know, like I said, pushing through austerity, enabling genocide. That is not a Labour Party that I can associate myself with. And so I felt a sense of responsibility to listen to the voices in our trade unions, in our social movements, in our communities who are looking for better representation. I don't think it's okay to just settle for the Labour Party and just say, this is the best we've got.”
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“I take those fears seriously. I understand that we have to do more to uproot and remove any scourge of anti-Semitism in our country.”
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“Anti-Semitism is a real issue, and we've seen that with the attack on the synagogue in Manchester. We see it from the hate crimes and the abuse in our communities, in our society. And we must all speak up, challenge that and root that out of society. But we cannot conflate the Jews. We cannot conflate anti Zionism with anti Semitism because not all Jewish people are Zionists and not all Zionists are Jewish people. You will have Christian Zionists. You will have atheist Zionists. So to conflate a religious... With Zionism is actually quite offensive.”
2025-10-31 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · Life after Labour: Zarah Sultana on Palestine, Farage and 'Your Party' · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Because what should That piece of land is a democratic state, one state, with equal rights for all, where there is no racial or religious supremacy. Israel would cease to democratic state with equal rights for all, and that should be the democratic position, because the two-state solution does not exist, it is dead, it is a complete utter fallacy. And instead, you have apartheid in the West Bank and genocide in Gaza, and you have millions of Palestinians who have the right to return under international law. So what we need to be advocating for, in my opinion, is a one-state solution, equal rights for everyone, no racial or religious supremacy.”
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“What is your message to them? So, just to go back on the NACBA, the NACBA isn't just a historical event, it is an ongoing process where land, Palestinian land in the West Bank continues to be stolen, where illegal Israeli settlements continue to grow, where Palestinians do not have the right to be able to travel, all of these things continue to happen. Evictions, the violence in the West Bank, the fact that it is a series of banter stands, there it cannot be a coherent Palestinian state. I think those are important things to also acknowledge. And what I'm saying...”
2025-10-31 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · Life after Labour: Zarah Sultana on Palestine, Farage and 'Your Party' · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Of years, a process of setting up a state, like you said, Nick, involved the dispossession of hundreds of thousands of Palestinians. It led to the Nakba, where people were displaced, where villages were burnt and rebuilt. And so there has to be a recognition of that.”
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“My argument isn't about the rights of states. My argument is the argument that Francesca Albanese makes, which people have rights, states don't have rights.”
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“No Jewish. That for me is democracy. And what we see playing out now, like I said, is apartheid. It's what Amnesty have called it. It's what Bet Salem, Israeli human rights organization call it, it's what scholars call it, it's what the South African government who know about apartheid call it. The”
2025-10-31 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · Life after Labour: Zarah Sultana on Palestine, Farage and 'Your Party' · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yes, it's been two years of seeing those images and those videos come in. And I think what is actually distressing for a politician, a British politician is knowing that we have the ability to stop it. And when I say that, I mean we sell the arms that are killing Palestinians. We provide the diplomatic cover that stops Israel from being held to account. We refuse to recognize it as a genocide. So there is layers to the complicity”
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“Was harrowing, and I saw children trialled in military court and they are trialed under military law, not civilian law, because there is an apartheid system in place for people, Palestinian people who live in the West Bank, the occupied West Bank and Jerusalem.”
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“So we went on a delegation of labour members, labour councillors. It was a Labour to Palestine delegation and it was during my freshest week at university and we stayed in Ramallah. We visited Jerusalem. We visited Bethlehem. We visited Hebron. And some of the memories that I have from that visit was the fact that because of my British passport, I could travel through a checkpoint that was stopping Palestinians from being able to freely move. And the humiliation Give to Palestinians, including a blind Palestinian man who was just trying to get to a hospital appointment at St. John's Hospital in Jerusalem. And his elderly mother”
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“Diplomacy Diplomacy, Nick, because every war ends with diplomacy. The question is how many people, how many Ukrainians, how many Russians have to die before we get there?”
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“Every war has an aggressor. Every war has to end through negotiations, but there seems to be no real desire for diplomacy to play a part in what is happening in Ukraine. The war must end. People must stop being killed and put into the meat grinder. I think that's really important. But how do we get there? And when it comes to...”
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“Because what I see playing out is this obsession with Cold War politics and Russia is the aggressor. Russia has conducted an illegal invasion.”
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“But even this weekend, we had Kay Starmer leading a meeting of the so-called Coalition of the Willing. And in that meeting, rather than talking about diplomacy, it was how can we sell you long-range missiles? So you have to ask the question, is the interest ending war, ending bloodshed, which is killing Ukrainians, or is it just about the profits of arms manufacturers?”
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“But what we see happening in Ukraine is playing out as a geopolitical proxy war and Kemi Badanok said that as well, that we must keep the war in Ukraine going because it is a geopolitical proxy war.”
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“Yes, Vladimir is a dictator and he has committed war crimes and the illegal invasion of Ukraine has to be condemned. It's indefensible. But what we see happening...”
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“If we're not fighting. Well, it's interesting that you say that because Keir Starmer is talking about increasing military spending, yet is talking about putting refugees and moving them out of hotels into military bases. So if there is this imminent threat of invasion of a threat to our safety, how does that contradiction play out?”
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“Well, we can't because we spent five times more on welfare than we do on defence. We can't do both because we have a government, a Labour government that's making a political choice to take money away from one part.”
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“That's the fight against fascism. And like I said, the current threats that we face are to do with pandemics, climate crisis, and that's what we need to be investing in. But on the point of NATO, NATO literally has working groups where BAE, Lockheed, Martin all sit on them. They are literally investing in their profits by being involved in NATO and NATO has a track record. If you look at Libya, if you look at Afghanistan, these wars have not made us as a country more safe. They've made us less safe. And I don't think the British public, like the idea of endless war, of militarization on steroids and not addressing our NHS.”
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“Wearing the poppy because when we come to remembrance date, it's important that we remember the fight against fascism. We remember the rights that have been won, that we are all able to live and celebrate with. And I think it's important to recognize that.”
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“I think it's connected. I think it's about this narrative that to feel safe, we need to have bombs, tanks and missiles, and we need to be in the pockets of arms manufacturers. That is something that I am opposed to, and especially when we think about NATO.”
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“Vladimir Putin. But the crises Like what we've had in the past, they are more likely I'm going to get to that point, they are more likely to be related to the climate crisis. They are more likely to be pandemics. They are more likely to be economic crises. They are not likely to be military invasions. That's just the reality that we're facing. And so rather than putting billions of pounds into defense spending, we should be investing in what I think is real security for our communities, especially in Coventry as well, around housing, around insecure jobs, around our public services.”
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“No, I don't. And the work that Commentary Cathedral does in particular around peace and reconciliation is really important. The solidarity it has with cities like Dresden and cities across the world. It is committed to a future of peace, of reconciliation and learning the lessons of the past.”
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“I think we can have a new form of internationalism that we work with our European neighbors and also countries around the world where we are driven by peace, we are driven by addressing the climate crisis, we are driven by diplomacy rather than aggression and imperialism.”
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“Ireland isn't in NATO, and I think Ireland is okay in terms of its safety, in terms of its security. And I think that the fact that NATO and Donald Trump in particular is able to force governments like ours and governments across Europe to increase defense spending to 5% by 2035, which is around £70 billion an increase. I think that is something that has to be challenged because...”
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“Lower or higher. I think we have to have a conversation. I don't think you can just simplistically say lower and higher like it's a game. Because it's not a game”
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“I think we need to have immigration in this country to one, address what I've just said where there are key labour shortages, but also the fact that immigration has just become this kind of football, right, politically, where we just say immigration to deal with some of the structural issues that are going on.”
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“This is a conversation that we have to have as a country. Let's have it. Do you want a curb? The fact that we have shortages in our social care, we have shortages in our NHS. If we are to have the council house building program that the Labour government has said that it will have, you need to have construction workers.”
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“It is a real phenomenon because that is a fact, a statistic where there has been an increase in immigration. But at the same time, we have not built the council houses. We have not invested in our NHS. We haven't built the schools. We haven't invested in the infrastructure. So both of those things are happening at the same time”
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“How do people think that? What are the processes that we get to any formed opinion, whether it's the fact that the vast majority of people think nationalization is a good thing or people support ending genocide and ending the war in Gaza? All of these things come about because of other things that are happening in society, media, culture, politicians, all of those things contribute to that. So it doesn't just happen in a vacuum.”
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“Yes, it's the fault of the media, it's the fault of politicians, and also the fact that when people's lives are materially worse and they are poorer and they have issues in their lives, they are being told very simply by politicians like Nigel Farage, the reason why your life is this bad is because of this group and every day it could change a scapegoat could change.”
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“That is an economic. It hasn't happened in a vacuum. People didn't just wake up and say, actually, immigration is an issue. They've been drip fed this for decades. It has been the discourse of Westminster”
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“The reason why they can't get a school place for their children is because of minorities, because of migrants, because of Muslims, rather than an economic system and political choices that have stopped them from being able to access those.”
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“Well, what's going on? It's a crisis of neoliberalism. People were told from the 80s onwards we have to privatize our national industries, we have to embrace neoliberal politics of deregulation. We have to do all of these things and people's lives will get better because there'll be a trickle down economics that will be happening. That has not proven to be true. People at the very top are incredibly wealthy and the people at the bottom are paying the price. And in terms of my own journey, I said I grew up under the shadows of the war on terror. I also saw austerity and I saw the response to the 2008 financial crisis which were in class families paid for and working class communities. And just going back to what is happening and why people feel angry, they've been told that the reason why they are poorer and they are materially poorer. The reason why their public services aren't working, the reason why they can't get a council house.”
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“It depends on what you define as working class. So if you look at working class as someone who has to work to earn an income to be able to live, then yes. If you look at my background, you know, there isn't having wealth that is intergenerational or through assets. It's through income. And many people see that as working class, you know, there'll be things that are in my life that are deeply cultural, right? Like being able to be able to go to the theater and some of those things that you might see as culturally middle class. But if it's related to having to work to be able to pay the bills because there isn't money coming from property or dividends or companies or inheritance, then yes.”
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“Well, the way it was being phrased by, I would say politicians and the media was that you can't be both, that you are either or. And I was both and I still am both, but it was this binary, the Muslims, us as a British country, and it was this inability to have anyone provide a narrative that there are communities who identify as British Muslim rather than what was being propagated by politicians and the media to divide us.”
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“It was this narrative. The victim of racism. Muslims were the enemy within, and we see that still propagated today. It was this, well, we are fighting the terrorists abroad, but also we have vast suspicion of communities here in the UK, and that was from the prevent strategy, that was from the cameras that were spying on Muslim communities, that was from the racism, the things politicians were saying, the front pages on the news. So it was a systemic effort”
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