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Zeke Emanuel

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“The other thing is it's a little too simplistic. So if you pick up these books, they're either mainly about exercise with a little sleep and nutrition, mainly about nutrition with a little exercise in sleep. But that's it. It's sleep, nutrition, and exercise. And that's just way too simplistic. And one of the important things of my book, I think, is saying, look, it's what we're doing here. It's social relationships, interacting with other people that is the single most important thing you can do for wellness, longevity, and happiness. And all the rest of this stuff is secondary. And they totally, I mean, the wellness industrial complex totally underplacles.”
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“Well, no, squatting's good, but you know, if you got the form a little long, it's not really going to make a difference to get it exactly right unless you happen to be going for the Olympics of squats.”
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“And they listed, I objected to one of their recommendations, and they listed in ground beef all the micronutrients that you get from ground beef, the selenium, the magnesium. Yeah, you don't have to really worry about that if you eat a healthy diet. You don't have to count on each one of those things. Grilled into my head. He has himself squatting and talking about the bad form of his squat. Now, do you think if he got the right form, it will make Heller Bean's worth a difference to the longevity, the wellness, or the meaning of his life? I can assure you no.”
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“So, if you're all inundated, whether we read the paper, get newsletters, whatever. And it turns out that even if you're on any of these platforms, right, you get this stuff, whether you want it or not. It's something like 90% of people have gotten wellness or longevity stuff, even when they don't actually look for it. One of the things that struck me in doing this is There's both too much and too little. It's simplistic. Now, the too much you know. And almost all these books pick them up and they make things so complicated. You have to do this routine in this way or this is the number of minutes or exactly this number of grams of protein you have to eat. You know, I had a little tweeting battle with the HHS.”
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“By one of the civil rights people. And it seems to me that's the right answer. That's really important. You know, what are you willing to die for that is so important to your life that you're willing to die for it, that'll give your life meaning. And I have a feeling there's nothing that these guys would die for And anyway, that's a hypothesis. I have no idea. And as I say, I'm just a terrible psychologist and psychiatrist.”
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“Come to psychiatry. But here's my, there's a hypothesis, unproven. There's something deeply unfulfilling to them. Maybe it's they have imposter syndrome. They got rich because they just happen to be lucky. They were at the right place at the right time. Whatever it is, right? And they're trying to find fulfillment and living a long time is the substitute for finding why they're doing what they're doing and what it is. I think that there are many of them who are doing great things. But I think if you want to live a long time, right, and there's a title of a book, I'm sure it's here that's something like you have to know why you'll die to live a long time.”
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“They can't imagine the world without themselves in it. And look, I got the lowest passing score in psychiatry rotation at Harvard Med School in my year. Okay. Don't listen to me when I come to the Harvard Med school.”
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“Human ever. Well, that's not an answer to the question of why, right? The whole point of living a long and healthy life is because we have other things to do. We have a why to our lives. And living a long time is not a fulfilling part. And so it struck me that they were replacing the means to a good life and making that the end. And that's always a mistake, as my ethics professor Jolt, you know, you don't need a lot of fancy logic to know that's the wrong thing to do.”
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“Well, first of all, it's common sense. But here's the problem with all of that stuff. There are multiple problems. One is it makes wellness in living a long time an obsession. And it's the wrong obsession. Just living a long time isn't a fulfilling life. The question is, why do you want to live a long time? What's in it for you? I don't know, six months ago, I was at a dinner. And yes, one of those brothers sat me next to Brian Johnson, who some of you will know is a guy who wants to live to 150. And I said, why do you want to live to 150? What's the point of your living to 150? Silence. And then he turned to someone and says, you know, I'm the most monitored.”
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