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Zevi Arnovitz

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“Thank you for having me. And if you build something cool with some stuff that I learned here, hit me up, send me. I'd love to see.”
2026-01-18 · Lenny's Podcast · The non-technical PM’s guide to building with Cursor | Zevi Arnovitz (Meta) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Awesome. So I've been helped throughout my whole career a ton. So I love helping any way I can. So reach out on LinkedIn or on X. I really love to help whoever I can. How can listeners be useful to me? So if you're a student, try StudyMate. Tell me what you think. If you're in Israel and you're not using dictation yet, try Deborah text. Tell me what you think.”
2026-01-18 · Lenny's Podcast · The non-technical PM’s guide to building with Cursor | Zevi Arnovitz (Meta) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“The end of it was if you join in now, we'll give you a discount. And like it was with drums and everything. And still when I go to Jerusalem, I know like some people who I don't even know my number by heart because they know it by the tune. And sometimes when I walk in Jerusalem, people stop me and say, like, hey, it's thermal's heavy. So that was just a really cool experience as a kid.”
2026-01-18 · Lenny's Podcast · The non-technical PM’s guide to building with Cursor | Zevi Arnovitz (Meta) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Was also like how I did things before ChatGPT. So he would throw out something. He'd say, oh, the import tax has gone up. And I'll just search Google, like import tax Israel and start reading. And I'll be on the phone with him and I'll be like, hey, I would just basically stall. And then I'd somehow come back with a challenge. And I ended up getting a really great price, like $12.5 a piece. So I was making like 100% profit. And I spread throughout a bunch of different schools each school I had the coolest people in school selling for me. And then a really fun thing that I did was we had a really awesome basketball team. And like our basketball team would basically be 30 points up within the first half. And it kind of got boring for the crowd. So I wrote a song like a basketball chant about thermal clothes that basically has my number within it and like.”
2026-01-18 · Lenny's Podcast · The non-technical PM’s guide to building with Cursor | Zevi Arnovitz (Meta) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, I'd love to. Really fun that you asked about this. Tell the thermal clothing because I think it's really cool. So in high school, I was selling thermal clothes in 10th grade for one of my sister's friends or something. And basically it was just packs of thermal clothing, shirt and pants. I grew up in Jerusalem. So it's a bit chillier there. So it was perfect for the weather. And in 10th grade, when I was selling them, they were like $20, $25 a piece. And I was making like $4 a sale. And if you look in the food chain, I was like sixth or seventh down the line. So this was like crazy margins. So during the summer, I thought about it. Like, I should just go straight to the importer. So throughout the summer, I called the importer. And at first, he was really, really mad. He was like, no, you have to work for me for years to get to this date. And I said, listen, man, I'm finishing school soon. This is not going to be my career. Either do it or not. And we basically negotiated throughout the whole summer.”
2026-01-18 · Lenny's Podcast · The non-technical PM’s guide to building with Cursor | Zevi Arnovitz (Meta) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, I'm kind of between two right now. One, which is become a Twitter meme, basically, which is you can just do things. I feel like that is basically going always in my head every time I do something that I'm just shocked at the speed and ability to do things now. So you can just do things. And the second one I stole from my brother, his motto is nobody knows what the fuck they're doing. And I just love that. And I think it kind of makes you take life more lightly. So yeah, nobody knows what the fuck they're doing.”
2026-01-18 · Lenny's Podcast · The non-technical PM’s guide to building with Cursor | Zevi Arnovitz (Meta) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“A good question. I'm always trying new products, I'll always have three or four browsers installed on my computer and all this different kind of stuff. And I recently discovered a loom alternative. I was kind of disappointed with Loom. They were taking so much money and the product, I don't know, I just didn't love it. And there's an open source alternative called CAP, which is just really well crafted. You can see that the person was like. Really sweating the details, and it's just a really, really great alternative. So I've been using that recently.”
2026-01-18 · Lenny's Podcast · The non-technical PM’s guide to building with Cursor | Zevi Arnovitz (Meta) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Actually, my wife is really into film, so we watch a lot of TV. It's probably our favorite together time. I just finished watching The Pit, which was amazing. It was really good. And my first recommendation to everyone is if you haven't seen Severance run to see Severance, one of my favorite shows.”
2026-01-18 · Lenny's Podcast · The non-technical PM’s guide to building with Cursor | Zevi Arnovitz (Meta) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, I love shoe dog. And then more on the psychology side mindset by Carol Dueck, who coined the term growth mindset. It's just such an amazing book. It kind of sounds like a self-help book, but then you understand that it's completely psychological and is based on research. And that book completely changed my life. Really, I was always with a fixed mindset. And then after reading that, I kind of understood that it was something holding me back. And since then, I've been really, really trying to cultivate a growth mindset. So I really recommend everyone reading that.”
2026-01-18 · Lenny's Podcast · The non-technical PM’s guide to building with Cursor | Zevi Arnovitz (Meta) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Any listener is listening to this and you're a curious person, you're a hardworking person, I want to say kind. I'm not sure. But if you're a kind person and a good communicator, you have such an unfair advantage and you can give more value to companies than most people who have 20 years of experience. So I really hope people get inspired by this and start killing it with their projects.”
2026-01-18 · Lenny's Podcast · The non-technical PM’s guide to building with Cursor | Zevi Arnovitz (Meta) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, so kind of to tie back into the first thing I said, where if people walk away thinking Zevi's so cool, then I've failed here. I think that it's just the best time to be alive. I think it's the best time to be a junior contrary to what a lot of people are saying, how, you know, there's no more junior roles out there and people get out of school and you can't find a role. Yeah, that's true. But also when else in history could you get out of school and just build a startup, you know, on your own with a couple of friends, completely bootstrapped. And I see more and more people towards the end of the time at Wix. I was interviewing and I saw more and more people building their own stuff with AI. And I think contrary to what a lot of people think, it's the best time to be a junior. It's the best time to be a learner. And I think if...”
2026-01-18 · Lenny's Podcast · The non-technical PM’s guide to building with Cursor | Zevi Arnovitz (Meta) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Kind of making us all proud. And it was such a great shift for me and basically at the end of the day, I really excelled through this.”
2026-01-18 · Lenny's Podcast · The non-technical PM’s guide to building with Cursor | Zevi Arnovitz (Meta) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Be the best learner you can be at the beginning. No one expects you to know all the answers, and no one expects you to be good. So basically what I did was I took each person on the PM team. There were four other PMs and I assessed what their strength is and use them as a mentor for that. So Nary, who was still my mentor until today, he has the best product sense of anyone I've met. Oh yeah, she's like a methodology expert. She just thinks in frameworks, Yah Ra, who is the head of product. basically can look at a product and then instantly understand like the third and fourth order effects of them system thinking so every time i had an issue with one of these areas i would come to one of them and consult them and this does two things first of all i learned a ton and the second thing is that when the next time the next product review my success failed to them like their success because it wasn't this kid who's trying to show us up how cool he is it was um like our mentee”
2026-01-18 · Lenny's Podcast · The non-technical PM’s guide to building with Cursor | Zevi Arnovitz (Meta) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Ah, you're such an idiot. And I saw that everyone was like, all right, cool. Yeah, just come back in two weeks and we'll keep getting at this. And I understood in that moment that they had zero expectation of me being a 10x p.m. But the expectation of me was being a 10x learner. And the second I understood that, my whole mindset shifted. And I think this is probably the best tip that I give now to junior PMs is basically.”
2026-01-18 · Lenny's Podcast · The non-technical PM’s guide to building with Cursor | Zevi Arnovitz (Meta) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I love this. I love this. I love Failure Corner. Big fan. So I'll tell a story about when I started at Wix. So basically, I started within Wix's student program. And straight out of the student program, you get put into a certain team. So I was in the editor, which is the core product of Wix. And the other PMs were just the best PMs almost at Wix. Like there's four other people had much more experience than me and they were ridiculously good. And I remember coming in and thinking like my first product review, I'm going to blow these people's socks off. They're not going to believe how good of a PM I am. And I basically didn't really share what I was thinking. I would work tons of hours alone. And I was like, I'm going to kill this product review. They're going to be so impressed. And I ended up failing miserably. My product review was not good. It wasn't the format they expected. They had a ton of questions that I missed. And I felt awful when it was over. I was like,”
2026-01-18 · Lenny's Podcast · The non-technical PM’s guide to building with Cursor | Zevi Arnovitz (Meta) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Which is the perplexities browser. And I had the agent run all kinds of analyses on like what the most asked questions are. And that's how I knew how to prioritize what questions I would mock. And then at the end of these mocks, I would tell Claude within the project, you're my coach, and I don't want you to make me feel good. I want you to make me as ready as possible for these interviews. So give me feedback, like you said. And the other thing that I did was really cool was some questions where I didn't have time to mock. I would ask Claude to play the candidate. And then it would just give me a really good answer. And I could also learn from that, like learning from someone who does a perfect answer.”
2026-01-18 · Lenny's Podcast · The non-technical PM’s guide to building with Cursor | Zevi Arnovitz (Meta) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I can do that. So I'll add two things to that one, which is exactly this. So I'll mock with AI. Also, I did something really cool where there's a question bank online free by Lewis Lynn, which basically is an always updating bank of questions that people are asked in real interviews. And I basically used”
2026-01-18 · Lenny's Podcast · The non-technical PM’s guide to building with Cursor | Zevi Arnovitz (Meta) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And basically, I created a project which was my coach, which I would come and consult what to do at each phase. I would mock interview with. And this was amazing. Also, I created a game in base 44, which helped me. I was really struggling with segmentation within the product questions. So thinking of the correct segments. So I basically just created a quiz game, which creates questions and different segmentations. And I have to choose. So this was like I spun this up. It was a web app that I would play sometimes when I was on the bus to work. So basically, I think Ben talks about this a bunch. So I don't like just go read Ben's stuff, but just creating a project and feeding it with all the best information on the internet and then mocking a bunch. I will say that the biggest game changer for me was doing human mocks. So cold outreaching to people on LinkedIn and having them”
2026-01-18 · Lenny's Podcast · The non-technical PM’s guide to building with Cursor | Zevi Arnovitz (Meta) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I feel like the analogy here is I have 12 nieces and nephews, and you can see how people who have grown up in a different world, how their mind is formed differently. So if you ask me, how do you answer a phone? I'll do this, but a child now, when you say, how do you answer the phone, they'll do this. You know, they'll do the iPhone answer. And I feel like people who are growing up now in their professional lives were the same just with AI. So every time I'm faced with a new challenge or problem, I think AI first had to solve it. So meta reached out and said they'd like me to interview straight away. I opened up a project within Claude. I started looking online for all the best information out there, things that I resonated with. I took a ton of frameworks and stuff from Ben Erez, who has written a guest post for you, who I think is one of the best minds out there right now.”
2026-01-18 · Lenny's Podcast · The non-technical PM’s guide to building with Cursor | Zevi Arnovitz (Meta) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Guiding it and giving it context on what your style of writing is and what you're trying to solve and all these different things, I think that's probably one of the biggest unlocks. So that's just a quick tip. And also cursor has slash command called d-slop, which is basically going back over the code. I don't know if this is integrated into the product yet, but it's on Twitter. Their founders have been talking about this. So that's definitely something I would run after just to make sure that no slop is left behind.”
2026-01-18 · Lenny's Podcast · The non-technical PM’s guide to building with Cursor | Zevi Arnovitz (Meta) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Similar to people setting up AI for success for the task at hand. So like if I just brought in a junior to write a deck or something and I didn't give it any guideline, I just said give a strategy deck. He would probably just go online and find top strategy deck and just reproduce that, which is basically what AI is doing. It's basically just fed all of the internet. Instead of that”
2026-01-18 · Lenny's Podcast · The non-technical PM’s guide to building with Cursor | Zevi Arnovitz (Meta) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Is that especially for more junior PMs, it allows you to play at such a higher level than you would normally? Like, I think that at Wix, I wasn't thinking of what's the marketing strategy of the company and how will the onboarding be completely revamped within the whole product. But I mean, on my side product, I can just do whatever decisions I want and think of the strategy and marketing and the messaging. And this is basically just getting me reps, which is one of the most important things at the beginning of your career. So I understand the fear that you outsource certain stuff and you're not owning 100% of everything. But I think the upside is so much more valuable. And I think the only way that AI makes you worse at your job is if you're using it wrong.”
2026-01-18 · Lenny's Podcast · The non-technical PM’s guide to building with Cursor | Zevi Arnovitz (Meta) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“The role of the PM is it's the exact opposite it's basically harnessing anything that can get us as quick as possible to delivering the right solution to users. And I just think this is like that really smart part that has context or your mentor or whatever, but is just always available and doesn't judge you and can really help you. So if you're using it to just create your outputs and then putting them out there, I mean, yeah, that's AI slot, but it's also human error. I think it's really important that you own your own outputs. If you put anything out there or show something in a product review and you say, oh, sorry, that was built by AI. That's your mistake. I think if you use these intentionally and really take the time to understand how to use AI in the correct way, it's one of the biggest game changers that will make you much better as a PM. And another thing here.”
2026-01-18 · Lenny's Podcast · The non-technical PM’s guide to building with Cursor | Zevi Arnovitz (Meta) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I have a very strong disagree to this, and I've heard it a bunch. I remember when I started using Tauraviv has this whole course on building a PM co-pilot using projects, which is probably one of the best courses that you can take. And when I started working with my own co-pilot, I remember people at work looking and saying like, oh, so you're basically outsourcing your thinking. And to me, that's just the worst way to look at it. And I think for some reason, these people usually have a high correlation with the kind of person who doesn't like to show their presentation when it's only 10% done or doesn't want to ask for help a lot. I think that there's a misconception with a lot of PMs that the job is always having the right answers and being the smartest person in the room and at least how I was trained and how I believe the”
2026-01-18 · Lenny's Podcast · The non-technical PM’s guide to building with Cursor | Zevi Arnovitz (Meta) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“There are PMs. Yeah, I think titles are going to collapse and responsibilities are going to collapse. And everyone's just going to be building. I definitely think that the models, the context window is getting bigger. The models are getting smarter. And I definitely see how PMs or any other background can be writing at the moment. I wouldn't wait for that. I would use this as a collaborative learning opportunity to work with your dev team. It's going to be difficult. A lot of developers are very, very skeptic about the current state. And I think that it's going to be a lot of sales work on your end to convince. But if you're able to convince, and I think teams that are really sold on this and want to take the time to work on their workflow about how can our team become more AI native, I think that these teams are going to probably be a few years in the future and they're going to look back at the”
2026-01-18 · Lenny's Podcast · The non-technical PM’s guide to building with Cursor | Zevi Arnovitz (Meta) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I think that first making your code base AI native is a really important step. And I think this needs to be done by technical people. So basically my code base has a ton of just plain text in it. So it will have a bunch of Markdown files that explain to agents how to work in certain areas of the code base and high level structure so that the agents navigate through the code base easier. And I think that if this is set up in a really good way, I still don't think like PMs should be shipping heavy database migrations or any like big project. But contain the UI projects, especially if you just build it, create the PR and send it to a dev to like do the final finishes. I think that's definitely something that's possible. And I think we're going to see that a lot in the next coming years. I think basically everyone's going to become a builder.”
2026-01-18 · Lenny's Podcast · The non-technical PM’s guide to building with Cursor | Zevi Arnovitz (Meta) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah. Okay. And like I said, just start at GPT. Starting GPT. Tell it what your idea is. Tell it to explain to you what are even the first steps of thinking. What are the decisions you need to make? And just be. Like be inquisitive, learn. Don't rush things. It's very important to just dive in and really spend the time to learn.”
2026-01-18 · Lenny's Podcast · The non-technical PM’s guide to building with Cursor | Zevi Arnovitz (Meta) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“The best time to be alive 100%. I think that I understand the fear, but AI just makes so much possible. Just a quick side note here. My brother, who I'm building one of the apps with, is an entrepreneur. He has a beautiful business that helps old people and seniors understand to use technology and AI better. And he's basically doing the same kind of learning as me. And he's replaced all of the tools he was paying for. I think he was paying for Zapier and Airtable. And he's basically built a full-fledged CRM system and automation system for his business completely alone. So, I mean, for the people who are curious, optimistic, hardworking, this is the best time to be a builder.”
2026-01-18 · Lenny's Podcast · The non-technical PM’s guide to building with Cursor | Zevi Arnovitz (Meta) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I think that's it. I think we covered pretty much everything. Basically, just to wrap this up, what I do is I do a bunch of code review and then update the documentation so that everything is documented. So the next time I try to build a feature in this area, there won't be any mistakes. And then I'll do a bunch of testing. I'll do some user testing as well before I release this to general availability. Obviously, we're not going to release this. This was just a show, but hopefully maybe by the time the podcast comes out, I'll have done this correctly and release the feature.”
2026-01-18 · Lenny's Podcast · The non-technical PM’s guide to building with Cursor | Zevi Arnovitz (Meta) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Exactly. Not always the slash commands, it will sometimes update different documentation or its tooling, but basically it's understanding what the root cause of the mistake that the AI made and fixing it.”
2026-01-18 · Lenny's Podcast · The non-technical PM’s guide to building with Cursor | Zevi Arnovitz (Meta) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Made it create that mistake. And then I'll say, okay, great, let's update your tooling and documentation so that this mistake never occurs again. And I do this every time I'm either building an internal tool or anything. And I think this is just like working, you know, if you've, you end up doing a bunch of mistakes and then end up releasing the future to users. So you're like, all right, it's a big success. going back and even when you've succeeded looking and understanding what you did and what you could have done better is critical and also using ai this is probably one of the biggest unlocks going back to your prompts understanding what was not good enough iterating on them and then seeing how ais responses get better i think that's probably one of the most important things and one of the things that divides between people who are like okay with using ai and the people who actually know how to use it”
2026-01-18 · Lenny's Podcast · The non-technical PM’s guide to building with Cursor | Zevi Arnovitz (Meta) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“100%. The one thing I'll say is that I think just like working in general with AI and even just like working on any product, doing constant postmortems is critical. So a lot of times we'll find all these kind of bugs or maybe Claude will fail to execute something correctly. And at the beginning, when I started vibe coding, I would basically just keep running at it, like running at the wall and until it worked. And once it worked, I was like, all right, awesome. This works. Let's keep going. But I've learned over time that updating documentation and tooling is one of the biggest hacks for productivity. So when Cloud will fail to do something or I'll see this really bad bug that shows that Claude really did understand something, I'll ask it, what in your system prompt or tooling made you make this mistake? And Cloud will kind of like go introspective and think of what”
2026-01-18 · Lenny's Podcast · The non-technical PM’s guide to building with Cursor | Zevi Arnovitz (Meta) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Exactly. I'll copy and paste the results. I'll do peer review and then I'll say dev lead one and then paste from one of the models and then I'll say dev lead two and paste from the other model and basically have them fight it out until I feel like we have no more issues. For me, this is super important because I'm not a technical and I'm not a developer. And I'll also use slash learning opportunity a bunch during this to learn about stuff that I don't understand or don't fully grasp.”
2026-01-18 · Lenny's Podcast · The non-technical PM’s guide to building with Cursor | Zevi Arnovitz (Meta) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Course branches referring to the GitHub branch that we're working on, we're not working on the live code base. And then I'll do this with Composer, say with we can do, let's do it with Composer 1. So I'll do slash review here as well. And basically, these are both going to run and do a in-depth review similar to what Claude does. But again, because of the differences between the models, they're all going to catch different things and they're all going to look differently. And this is a really cool way to work. It's basically if you had other team leads within the company review the code here. You can see how fast Composer is. I think GPT probably will take a bunch of time. Like I said, it's in its own dark room right now reviewing code and we'll come back in a few minutes. Okay, cool.”
2026-01-18 · Lenny's Podcast · The non-technical PM’s guide to building with Cursor | Zevi Arnovitz (Meta) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah. So basically, Claude has reviewed its code and it's found a bunch of bugs, a critical bug it found in the prompt, some high bugs, some medium bugs. And now what I'll do is I'll do the same thing with the other models. So Codecs has a built-in code review that you can do, or I just like to say review all the code in this branch.”
2026-01-18 · Lenny's Podcast · The non-technical PM’s guide to building with Cursor | Zevi Arnovitz (Meta) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Basically, like sometimes claw code will get really sassy and be like, this has been raised for the third time. And for the third time, I'm telling you, this is not an issue. This is by design. So it's just a really cool thing that I've added and I haven't seen many people doing it.”
2026-01-18 · Lenny's Podcast · The non-technical PM’s guide to building with Cursor | Zevi Arnovitz (Meta) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Google's new competitor to cursor. When it's writing code, you can see the steps it's taking and it's terrifying. Like you'll say, I want you to redesign the top of the dashboard and you're looking at its thought process and it will say, oh, first things first, I'll delete the dashboard. And then it'll be like, nope, that was a mistake. I'll bring it back. And then it will say, oh, can I edit the database? And you're like, no, do not edit the database. You're just doing a redesign. And then it will end up designing something beautiful. So the way there is like a roller coaster and very scary. But at the end of the day, Gemini is very good at design. So I think that using all these models and basically playing to their strengths and mitigating their weaknesses by using other models is a game changer for me. So I'll do peer review a bunch of times and I'll have other models review other models code and kind of have them like fight it out.”
2026-01-18 · Lenny's Podcast · The non-technical PM’s guide to building with Cursor | Zevi Arnovitz (Meta) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“But then there's also codecs. So I use codex 5.1 max whatever at another. Not the best at naming models, but GPT's model. I always imagine it as like the best coder within the company who comes to the office with a hoodie and sandals and sits in a dark room. And you basically only bother him when you have the worst bugs and you say, listen, we have this bug and it will just close the door for two hours and come out and say, I fixed it. And you're like, wait, what are you going to tell us what happened or what? And he's like, don't worry about it. I fixed it. It's like really not communicative, but it solves all the worst problems. And let's say Gemini is like a crazy scientist who's super artsy, super talented at designing. But if you sit next to it and watch it work, it's terrifying. Like you would fire that person instantly. This might be just my experience, but when I'm using Gemini within anti-gravity, which is...”
2026-01-18 · Lenny's Podcast · The non-technical PM’s guide to building with Cursor | Zevi Arnovitz (Meta) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“This project. You need to either explain why the stuff they found are not real issues and wrong, or fix them yourself. And it's really cool because the way I look at these things is I look at the models, I try to imagine them as people. And I can really tell you how each one of these would be as a real human because each model has such distinct characteristics. So let's say Claude, she would be the perfect CTO. Like she's very communicative, she's very smart. She doesn't just go with the flow and do whatever you tell her. She's very opinionated, but also super collaborative, which is, I think, why I'm always drawn to Claude, because I need to do so much learning and like. It's your dream, a very communicative but very opinionated dev le”
2026-01-18 · Lenny's Podcast · The non-technical PM’s guide to building with Cursor | Zevi Arnovitz (Meta) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“What's even cooler and something that I'm really proud of is I will usually do multiple reviews and I'll have codecs, which is ChatGPT's competitor to cloud code, as well as cursor open. And I will have each of them review the code. And then what I do is I have a slash command called peer review, which is really interesting. And basically what it does is it's going to take Claude, which is usually the agent I'm working with. And just to put this in a mental model, this is basically my dev lead that I'm working with. I will take the slash command is basically saying you're the dev lead on this project. Other team leads within the company have looked at your code and reviewed it and found these issues. Don't take what they said at face value. The reason is you have more context than them and you let them.”
2026-01-18 · Lenny's Podcast · The non-technical PM’s guide to building with Cursor | Zevi Arnovitz (Meta) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, so this is another thing where it's very difficult for me to catch mistakes. So my review process has gone through a bunch of iterations to really be as good as possible and to catch as many things as possible. So I'll always manually QA at first to make sure if I can see any mistakes that Claude made. And then what I'll do is basically slash review. This tells Claude to start reviewing its own code.”
2026-01-18 · Lenny's Podcast · The non-technical PM’s guide to building with Cursor | Zevi Arnovitz (Meta) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So now we have this feature which basically we built, and I can ask it to make some changes because it's running locally. And once it's ready, I'll be able to ship it to users. So now the next phase after I've QA'd it and basically tested it manually, I'll have Claude review its own work. So what I'll do is I'll reopen Claude Code.”
2026-01-18 · Lenny's Podcast · The non-technical PM’s guide to building with Cursor | Zevi Arnovitz (Meta) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
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“Prob Adam even look, I mean, I used to be so stingy about paying for products. And now I'm just basically, I look at it all as tuition, you know, as like stuff that I'm paying for learning. So I don't know how much it costs, but it's definitely worth it.”
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“Yeah, for sure. Now, a composer, like the one thing is it's just so, so blazing fast keeps you in flow. So yeah, full features take minutes.”
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“Yeah, that's time to be alive. So awesome. So it looks like it's finished. So now what we're going to do is we're going to run the app locally and we'll be able to see what Composer ended up building. And we're going to see if anything else is needed on our end to maybe do a manual review. Does that sound good?”
2026-01-18 · Lenny's Podcast · The non-technical PM’s guide to building with Cursor | Zevi Arnovitz (Meta) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“These are like the time machine moments where I feel like I was in the future and I just stick my head out of the time machine, and whoever's next to me, like at the moment it was my wife, I'll just say we live in the future. And she'll be like, huh, what? And I'll be like, no, no, don't worry about it. But it's just basically so crazy that all these things are just an API away. You can use anything. So I think it's an awesome time to be curious and optimistic and hardworking.”
2026-01-18 · Lenny's Podcast · The non-technical PM’s guide to building with Cursor | Zevi Arnovitz (Meta) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, I mean, we just live in the craziest of times where basically the world changes once a week, it feels like. And there is just no boundaries. You can use all of these just on your regular MacBook or regular laptop. And I have these moments. I call them time-machine moments, which is basically this week, for instance, I was prepping for the podcast using Claude with a project. I was building, I was fully localizing study mate from Hebrew to English, which I did in two days, which would probably take a dev team weeks. And I was building a personal site, which went from no domain, no nothing to live on a domain within an hour and a half. And I was doing all three of these in parallel. And there was a point where basically all three of the agents were running. So I didn't have anything to do. I just had to let them think.”
2026-01-18 · Lenny's Podcast · The non-technical PM’s guide to building with Cursor | Zevi Arnovitz (Meta) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, yeah, base 44 does an amazing job at basically taking all the complex guesswork out of building product and just allows you to just go with the vibes and build, but it will do sign-in with Google for you and it will do a database. But then you don't have decisions on what database am I using? Do I need signed in with Google this way or another way? It would just do it out of the box. So that's basically the trade-off there.”
2026-01-18 · Lenny's Podcast · The non-technical PM’s guide to building with Cursor | Zevi Arnovitz (Meta) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“You have to make these hard decisions. So it's also very easy to build, but the flip side of that is that you have less control. And basically cloud code is just taking claud and shoving it straight in your code system and giving it full tools and to do whatever it wants. But also with that comes a lot of decisions that you need to make. So I don't know if you can't build really amazing production apps using Bolt or Lovable now, but I think basically if you want the most cutting edge abilities of the models and you want to be able to make all the decisions on your own, it's probably best to be on one of these tools.”
2026-01-18 · Lenny's Podcast · The non-technical PM’s guide to building with Cursor | Zevi Arnovitz (Meta) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source