Abdelhaq Sari
Bourassa, Quebec · Liberal · Canada
“Mr. Speaker, people are coming out of the woodwork every day claiming to be AI experts. Some have contacted me, others have tried to meet with me and, recently, someone insisted that I read his book. I thought to myself, “Oh no, not another one!” I decided to take his advice anyway and read his book. Well, I followed his advice.”
“Most of all, the environment and our planet will benefit, because each appliance repaired rather than discarded represents a resource conserved and one less piece of trash. Repair is an integral part of Quebec and Canadian culture.”
“That is what Bill C-267 proposes: a response that is both simple and ambitious—a national framework for sustainable and repairable electronic products and essential devices. It is not a rigid regulation; it is not an encroachment on provincial jurisdictions.”
“It makes a lot of sense because it provides that things can be repaired instead of merely replaced, that we can be informed instead of being unaware, and that we can work together instead of imposing anything. (1830) [ English ] I think of the families in Bourassa and across the country who are watching what we do here today.”
“The European Union introduced a right to repair directive in 2024. The United Kingdom passed its legislation back in 2021. In the U.S., over twenty states have taken action with bipartisan support. Apple, Samsung, LG and Whirlpool are already adapting these standards to their other markets. This means a minimal burden for Canada.”
“Mr. Speaker, I am speaking today about Bill C-267 . Someone's refrigerator breaks down. They call a technician, who says that the part is no longer available, that the repair manual is missing or was never available and that the cost of the repair exceeds the price of a new appliance.”
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“These measures are legally tenuous and more likely to produce unjust results. Rather than import these failed American policies that would increase the prison population without achieving the stated objective of making communities safer, we should instead opt for evidence-based reforms that target violent repeat offenders while respecting the values of the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms and ensuring swift access to justice. Instead of adopting overly simplistic ideas, what has our government done? There is a difference between common sense and oversimplification. The ideas we have heard today from the other side of the House have been very oversimplified. Instead, what we did as a government was to get all stakeholders involved in our decision-making and analysis in order to better understand the context.”
“Mainly, what we are seeing are coercive measures. Where are the preventive measures that the Conservatives talked about in their platform? They are nowhere to be seen. This type of law has been used by our neighbours to the south and found to be ineffective, obsolete. What are the Conservatives doing now? They are importing legislation that unfortunately did not work for our neighbours to the south. They are copying and pasting that legislation as is, without taking into consideration the data and the socio-economic context of our country, without taking into consideration any input that may come from stakeholders, including our police chiefs, organizations, lawyers, court services and so on. Also, I hear my colleagues talking about rules that would take away judges' discretion, rules that have also proven ineffective.”
“Mr. Speaker, we have heard quite a few speeches today. Many people have spoken on the subject. I would like to reiterate that we all agree on the fact that Canadians always have the right and obviously deserve to feel safe and secure when they are out and about regardless of their gender. That is very important. We obviously agree with the opposition members that serious action must urgently be taken to address violent crime, whether or not it involves firearms. However, unfortunately, they are proposing a very rigid American-, cowboy-style “three strikes" law. That is not a solution, and I will explain why. I will explain why because, when our colleague moved the motion, he did not provide any sort of explanation involving facts or evidence. There is nothing in his proposal about prevention.”
“Mr. Speaker, I thank my colleague, but I heard her say several times that, sadly, gun violence and the rise in crime are really a result of Bill C‑75 . Is her assessment based on any studies, or is it as simplistic as what we heard from her colleague earlier? Is she aware of any analyses that might show that these types of issues could also be related to other social or health-related determinants, mental health or access to housing?”
“Mr. Speaker, first, I want to thank my colleague from the Bloc Québécois. It seems like we wrote our comments at the same time, at the same place, in the same way. I agree with my colleague on several points, including oversimplification, which is what this motion does. The term “common sense” is being used, but people have to be very careful. There is common sense, and there is oversimplification. It was very oversimplified. Let us look at some more specific examples. In studying the motion, I came to the same conclusion as my colleague on the rules that they want to remove. They want to take away judges' discretion with respect to repeat offenders. My question is as follows. Is this not something that we really should not be taking away from our judges? I think someone else already said it, but do we—”
“Mr. Speaker, I thank my colleague for his speech. His explanations were truly comprehensive and he presented some very interesting ideas. It is a very interesting and different angle from what can be gleaned from the cursory reading that the opposition obviously did. I have a very clear question for my colleague. We know that there is a major fentanyl crisis going on. Public safety and any other organizations tasked with dealing with this crisis really need to target precursor chemicals, including the components of fentanyl. Can he elaborate on this or tell us where to find this information? How can we target the precursors that can be used to make fentanyl?”
“Mr. Speaker, I thank my colleague for his speech, even though I do not agree with many of the points he raised today. I would like to set the record straight. They said it will be done behind closed doors, so we really need to set the record straight so as not to mislead Canadians. Federal agencies will be working on these things. What my colleague forgot to mention is that the decision-making process will be streamlined. It will replace a process that was much slower, with long periods of inaction that resulted in lost opportunities. The Impact Assessment Agency of Canada, which is a federal agency, will be involved. There will be consultations with first nations, which is something my colleague definitely forgot to mention. Our esteemed colleague talked mainly about oil and gas. We are losing other economic opportunities too.”
“Mr. Speaker, I thank my colleague for his explanations. I think that all the comments he made are covered in the bill. As for the decision-making process he was talking about, which is quite slow, the bill shortens that decision-making process with less delay and less waiting. When he talks about oil projects, it is very interesting, but there are other projects as well. We truly need to diversify our economy, and that is what we want to do by requiring only one review for each project. I have a very simple question for my colleague. Given that the bill responds to all the concerns he raised in connection with one strong Canadian economy, would my colleague be prepared to work with his party to help this bill move forward as quickly as possible for the good of Canadians?”
“Madam Speaker, in a much more unstable and worrisome environment like this, it is important for every organization, including governments, to diversify their production and their ability to attract investors. My colleague did a great job of explaining that ability to diversify our natural resources so that Canada is seen as more than just an oil and gas producer. No, Canada truly has a lot of services to offer, especially in Quebec. It is a service provider and an aerospace manufacturer, and we really need to forge ahead with such diversification, not just with one natural resource. Canada is worth a lot more than that.”
“Madam Speaker, I respect and very much appreciate this extraordinary question. It is because what has changed is not the rules, but rather the environment. At some point, our government and cabinet need to be bold. We need to focus on leading indicators to be much more proactive. The economic and international environment is changing, and we need to adapt and be agile. We must not govern with the rear-view mirror, as advocated by the Conservatives, who look to the past. On the contrary, we need to review the changes, review the indicators and focus on the road ahead, on the future, especially given the current environment, which is very fluid. We must be much more agile and much more ambitious and bold.”
“Madam Speaker, I fully appreciate that. Even at the Festival des boulettes, we really want to get people talking. That is how to build a harmonious society, even in politics. I might add that I come from a municipal background. I was a city councillor in Montreal, where there are sometimes competing interests between boroughs. Progress can be made despite that. When we say that we are one country, we can move forward, not for the sake of the provinces, but for the sake of Canadians. What matters is having jobs here with investors from here. That is what we are trying to do with this bill.”
“I am asking members to collaborate with us and give us their opinion. Let us work in the interest of investors and let us work together to build one strong Canadian economy.”
“We are in an international environment where quick decision-making can be very important, especially in the current economic context, in which it is absolutely necessary. I am therefore calling on the opposition to collaborate and ask us questions, but they cannot tell us that we are not ambitious and that this bill lacks clarity. On the contrary, we are proposing something exciting. Let us stop talking about the past and former bills. Let us talk about the future and let us talk about the current context. Canadians were smart to choose an ambitious and bold government and leader. I am asking members of the other parties to be just as bold. I am asking them to work with us. At some point, it is time to respect the choice Canadians made and work with those who were chosen.”
“However, sometimes it is a good idea to reverse some of those decisions, because laws have been passed that can harm our economy and impede investment. What we are trying to do with this bill is simplify the decision-making process. My riding is in Quebec, and I can tell the House what Quebeckers told me when I went door to door. Right now, Quebeckers are telling us that, with all the international competition, we need a strong, much more efficient economy. Decisions need to be made more quickly. Our political commitment as Canada's federal Liberal government is “one project, one review”. That is very important. Sometimes it takes public servants a long time to complete administrative reviews, and that is costing us opportunities.”
“The opposition members are giving examples of a number of countries, including Japan, Qatar and many others, that have sped up their decision-making processes. The bill's main purpose is to speed up the decision-making process. As legislators and MPs, we were elected above all to defend the interests of Canadians. We are not here to defend projects that even the official opposition considers to be obsolete. Just last week, the Bloc Québécois was talking about obsolete projects that are delaying economic development. We are proposing an ambitious, measurable project for which Canadians gave us a clear mandate. This project would make it easier to bring in many domestic and international investors. Now they are saying we are not being ambitious enough and that this bill reverses decisions made in the past.”
“I would like to thank the three women who are behind this initiative: Chantal Rossi, a municipal councillor from Montreal North; Brunilda Reyes, the director of Les Fourchettes de l'espoir; and our dear Sister Angèle, who has been the driving force behind this community-building project for many years. The most recent edition, which took place on Saturday, was won by a group from Bangladesh. I congratulate all the participants. With regard to the bill, I will explain something very important when it comes to international competition. When a country wants to build a strong economy, it is very important that decisions are made neither too hastily, nor too slowly. Decisions do have to be made, especially in an international situation full of uncertainty and competition.”
“Madam Speaker, before I begin my speech, I would like to talk about an amazing event that took place in my riding, Bourassa. I am talking about the ninth edition of the Festival des boulettes, the meatball festival. Everyone thinks that their mother, grandmother or family had the best recipe. People from many different backgrounds took part in this event. There were folks from Bangladesh, Pakistan, India, Portugal, Tunisia, Algeria and Morocco. Each participant rightly believed that their recipe was the best. A culinary program was organized by Les Fourchettes de l'espoir and the borough of Montreal North. It was a wonderful opportunity for people to come together and enjoy each other's company and conversation.”
“Madam Speaker, I disagree on a number of points, and I would like to ask a question afterward. It has been said that I am not proud. Fortunately, we Liberals are very proud to be Canadian and very proud to have been chosen by Canadians in the last election. Listening to my colleagues, I get the impression that the election campaign is still on, but it is over, and Canadians have made their choice. We have here an important and ambitious initiative. Would my colleague be willing to work with us to move this bill forward, a bill that will truly unify Canada and make its economy much stronger?”
“Mr. Speaker, I would agree with my colleague. The bill is full of very concrete, very positive measures. Can my colleague tell us about two things that he thinks are essential and should be prioritized? Can he tell us about two things that he finds interesting and would like to highlight for the House?”
“Mr. Speaker, it is very important that our government remain committed to strengthening the mechanism of integrity in public administration. We need to work together across party lines, in a non-partisan way, to make sure that something like this never happens again. It is very important that this issue be addressed in a non-partisan way and that it not be politicized.”
“Mr. Speaker, that is absolutely true, whether in this case or any other case where people find that administrative processes take a really long time or genuinely harm their financial situation. I would just like to come back to the subject to say one thing. What matters to this government in terms of administrative processes is integrating AI and making Canadians our primary concern. I would also like to remind everyone here that, rather than turning this into a partisan wedge issue, our responsibility as members of Parliament is to strengthen public confidence and put our trust in our public servants and in our system. This is the message we need to send to Canadians.”
“Mr. Speaker, I really want to put on the record that the government has not turned a blind eye and has acted very responsibly. The government has already taken concrete action to address the concerns raised. An investigation has been launched by the Office of the Auditor General of Canada, and we are co-operating fully with the authorities to get to the bottom of this matter. The government has also launched a review of our contract management practices to strengthen oversight mechanisms and ensure that every public dollar is spent wisely.”
“In conclusion, all the COVID-19-related border measures were lifted on October 1, 2022, including the requirement for travellers entering Canada to submit their public health information using the ArriveCAN app or web site. The COVID-19 pandemic created a unique set of challenges and a need for government intervention and support that had not been seen in more than a generation. In an increasingly interconnected world, many lessons have been learned from this experience and are being integrated into pandemic preparation and response plans, which will help the government adjust its operations, if necessary, and remain well positioned and prepared to respond to future global health events.”
“The availability and use of ArriveCAN were essential to enable the government to resume international commercial passenger flights at other airports starting in August 2021, with full resumption across Canada by the end of February 2022. (1640) As a result of this solution, the number of travellers entering Canada by air increased regularly, going from roughly 1,000 travellers a day in May 2020, to between 30,000 and 50,000 travellers a day in January 2023, and roughly 1.5 million travellers a month thereafter. ArriveCan really helped to reduce the processing time required by border services officers to support the resumption of international travel.”
“This digital solution also made it possible to collect, collate and analyze the information more quickly and efficiently than the initial paper-based process so that traveller health information could be shared with the provinces and territories in a timely manner or in real-time for contact tracing purposes. As I explained earlier, the app had value for public health, but also for the resumption of international travel and for our economy. It played a vital role in protecting Canadians from the spread of the virus in our country and allowed the economy to reopen within our economic system. In March 2020, all international commercial passenger flights were funnelled to four major airports: Montreal, Toronto, Calgary and Vancouver.”
“For example, when the omicron variant was identified in late 2021, data from ArriveCAN was used to identify recent arrivals from countries where omicron was widespread, to facilitate compliance verification and enforcement activities related to border measures and to protect travellers and border control officers by reducing points of contact. The solution gave all travellers, regardless of their mode of transportation, a digital means of providing the required information in accordance with emergency orders made under the Quarantine Act.”
“When the app was launched, Canada was recording more than 1,200 COVID-19-related deaths per week. Public health measures at the border helped protect Canadians and limit the importation and spread of COVID-19. These measures also helped ease significant pressure on the Canadian health care system. Data collected through ArriveCAN played a critical role in developing public health advice. It enabled the federal government to monitor, assess and respond to COVID-19 as it evolved. More specifically, ArriveCAN was an important tool in implementing the border testing program, which was essential in identifying and monitoring the importation of variants of concern from high-risk countries.”
“The introduction of this mandatory system, known as ArriveCAN, was cited by the Auditor General in her December 2021 report as an important factor in improving data quality and, consequently, the Public Health Agency of Canada's ability to promote, review and enforce COVID‑19 border measures. It is important to note that the data was very important in guiding the government in the direction it should take and in the decisions that should be made by public health officials. More specifically, ArriveCAN enabled the Government of Canada to implement, add, adjust and remove important public health measures, especially at the border. As the pandemic evolved, the situation was, of course, taken into account. As I said, the data from ArriveCAN guided those decisions.”
“The ArriveCAN solution was launched in April 2020 to facilitate the digital submission of the mandatory public health information that was required of travellers entering Canada. ArriveCAN evolved in step with public health measures at the border to protect Canadians and to limit the importation of the virus and the spread of COVID‑19. Most of all, it was an effort to limit pressure on Canada's health care system. Lastly, it was also an effort to support the resumption of travel. ArriveCAN is a tool that helped facilitate the reopening of our borders, which was essential for Canadian businesses and the national economy. Let us now talk about how this solution contributed to public health.”
“Mr. Speaker, first of all, I would like to explain that our government implemented border measures in early 2020 in response to widespread and growing concern in the international community about reports of a new virus identified in China. This was followed by an unprecedented international response to the pandemic. Throughout the COVID‑19 pandemic, we took a comprehensive and layered approach to border management in a rapidly evolving and highly dynamic environment. This included frequently adapting measures based on available data, operational considerations and scientific evidence, while monitoring the epidemiological situation and the capacity to respond to the pandemic, both in Canada and abroad.”
“Mr. Speaker, last weekend in Bourassa, as across the country, we celebrated Fête des voisins, or neighbours day, which is a special opportunity to get to know our neighbours, share a smile and build stronger communities. Bourassa is also buzzing with excitement for the NBA finals. Two basketball players from Montreal, Canada, Quebec—but most importantly, from the riding of Bourassa—are facing off in the NBA finals. The player whose team wins the finals will bring the cup to Bourassa and bring immense pride to Canadians, Quebeckers, Montrealers, and the people of Bourassa in particular. The finals will be shown in Bourassa. The good news is that the cup will be coming here. We are going to celebrate diversity and celebrate our young people, who grew up and honed their skills in Bourassa. The cup is coming to Montreal.”
“Mr. Speaker, one thing to remember is that this is not something the government is doing in isolation. It is not just a single initiative, but rather an integrated approach. This will obviously include more border measures. I hope that the work will be done upstream not just with respect to the borders, but also to drugs.”
“It is really important to ensure that the process is not slow, because that also has an impact on their mental health, which hinders their integration.”
“Mr. Speaker, I thank my colleague for her welcoming message. She was correct in saying that we need to listen, but this has to go both ways. That is really important. The Bloc Québécois is known for its proposals on prevention. As I said, this is a much more integrated approach to public safety. It is an approach that includes not only police response, but also a social and humanitarian response regarding our young people. The point is to take preventive action. With regard to my colleague's question, it is integrated as I said. The immigration process really needs to be streamlined to make it simpler and faster. This is desirable because when we welcome these people, we have to do it properly.”
“We will truly be adopting a more proactive and preventive approach, and I think that our streets will be much safer as a result. I sincerely invite our colleagues to collaborate and to start by reading the bill.”
“Mr. Speaker, I am simply inviting my colleague to read the document carefully, because the goal is to give our police forces more resources and to facilitate their work and operations. I would also invite her to look at how this bill can be managed in a much more integrated way, rather than seeing it from a silo perspective or from the point of view of a single framework. That is the problem with the opposition. When work is done, when we take action or table bills, the opposition says that it is not enough. When we put forward a more comprehensive and integrated plan, it says that we are going too far. At some point, we really have to take a stand. I think that this bill will give our police forces all the resources they need.”
“I therefore support this bill with determination, but also with vigilance, to protect our communities, strengthen our security and uphold the values of justice and freedom that make our country, Canada, strong. This is a comprehensive bill that does not include any proposals from the opposition parties, which always come from a silo perspective. It really prioritizes prevention and proactive measures to ensure that Canada is truly safe and secure.”
“The bill addresses many of those gaps. It is not just a technical adjustment but a real strategic shift toward more proactive—as I have pointed out—more coordinated and better equipped public safety. That is why we need to ensure that new powers are balanced with mechanisms for transparency, accountability, and parliamentary oversight. In conclusion, the bill is a direct response to the everyday problems experienced by our constituents and especially by our police services. Passing the bill will send a clear message that Canada is protecting its borders, its children and its families. In other words, our sovereignty is being exercised in our neighbourhoods, on our streets, in our ports, in our digital networks and in our democratic institutions.”
“These precursor chemicals are used in the manufacture of fentanyl, for example. The bill seeks to enact the supporting authorized access to information act to ensure that electronic service providers can legally co‑operate with investigations. (1645) Access to cross-border data has to be improved, with respect for fundamental freedoms, and the Canada Post Corporation Act has to be amended to allow suspicious mail to be opened within a strict legal framework. Of course, there are a number of concrete measures against money laundering, including restrictions on cash payments and third-party deposits. As former vice-chair of Montreal's Commission de la sécurité publique, I saw first-hand the challenges that our police services are facing: legal limitations, administrative delays and a lack of coordination between the agencies.”
“In Laval, Ottawa and Halifax, police are struggling to intercept packages containing prohibited substances because of restrictive postal laws. By amending the Canada Post Corporation Act, this bill will finally give them the means to do something about it. We also want to modernize legislation and strengthen operations. I would like to highlight some aspects of this bill. Bill C-2 aims to clarify exemptions from drug and cannabis laws to better regulate investigative tools. It seeks to amend the Controlled Drugs and Substances Act, giving the Minister of Health targeted powers over precursor chemicals. Once again, this is about being proactive. It is essential to take action upstream to stop these precursor chemicals, as they enable clandestine labs to operate.”
“The chemicals arrive through indirect channels, often by mail or international packages. This bill will allow for better monitoring of these products and rapid intervention by the Minister of Health. In Toronto, criminal networks are exploiting gaps in data access to operate large-scale fraud and money laundering schemes. Amendments to the Proceeds of Crime (Money Laundering) and Terrorist Financing Act, as well as cross-border information-sharing mechanisms, will give our police officers the tools they need to take action. In Vancouver, customs officers are facing an influx of suspicious goods arriving by sea. Amendments to the Customs Act and the Oceans Act will allow for upstream interventions, which I will discuss later. There is a lot of talk about being proactive.”
“The bill before us is ambitious, pragmatic and, above all, necessary in the current context. It is based on clear and focused SMART principles. It is a clear and effective response to very real threats: drug trafficking, organized crime, money laundering and weaknesses in our intelligence system. This is about more than legislative principles; it is about human lives. In Montreal and other big cities, people want to live in safe, peaceful neighbourhoods free from violence and crime. This bill is not just a legislative exercise; it is a commitment to people's peace of mind. I will give a few examples. The situation is alarming in our major cities such as Montreal, Toronto, Vancouver, and Calgary. In the greater Montreal area, we are seeing a resurgence of violence and clandestine synthetic drug labs.”
“These three young people shine and, today, their light is illuminating the world's largest basketball stage. Their journey is an inspiration that drives us to keep investing in our young people, celebrating our local talent and showcasing the riding of Bourassa at home and abroad. Now more than ever, a sports centre is an important and essential asset sorely lacking in Bourassa. The borough is organizing a public screening of the finals at Pilon Park in Bourassa so that we can all share this historic moment. Everyone is welcome to join in this collective outpouring of pride. Fortunately, these young men did not turn to crime as some unfortunately do. We are talking about crime today, and I want to acknowledge that the Prime Minister and the Minister of Public Safety have done careful, concrete work on this.”
“Mr. Speaker, before I begin, I want to share some really good news. Two athletes from my riding, Bennedict Mathurin and Luguentz Dort, have made it to the NBA finals. We are bursting with pride in these young Quebeckers from Montreal North. They are of Haitian descent, were born and trained here, on our streets, in our schools and in our parks. This is a great response to people who, like the president of our neighbour to the south, have denigrated communities with Haitian roots. This time, greatness is a 100% Canada-Quebec production made in Bourassa. In addition to these two athletes, I would also like to mention Chris Boucher, past winner of the NBA finals. This news illustrates the strength of our community's talent, perseverance and pride.”
“We are trying to give our police forces the tools they need to do their job. We know that criminal groups are adapting their way of doing things and accelerating their use of technology for cybercrime, among other things. We want to give police forces the tools they need. We want to fight crime, but we see that, unfortunately, the members opposite are not following suit. In his speech, my colleague talked a lot about police work, but I see that what is missing from the opposition's discourse is prevention—”
“Madam Speaker, I would like to thank the opposition member for his speech and his challenge to us on this matter. I listened to him carefully. We agree on a number of points. What we want is for all Canadians to feel safe and secure. That being said, we must not mislead Canadians. We are talking about a bill that will be discussed and debated. There are a number of elements that I hope will lead to co-operation from the members opposite. When we present a working document, we hope to have their co-operation. That is a good discussion that we could have. That being said, in his speech, I think my colleague tried to see what is not really in the bill and what should be added, but he seems to have forgotten to talk about the initial work that is already there. I do not really understand where the opposition is going with this.”
“Mr. Speaker, I want to thank the people of Bourassa for entrusting me with the honour of representing them here in the House of Commons. It is an immense honour. I also have a message for my colleagues. Despite our differences, we all share the same commitment to serve the public with the integrity, attention and humility that the voice of our constituents calls for. Together, let us make this Parliament a time for progress, respect and hope for all Canadians. We are here to be agents of change, no matter the challenges. Every word that has been spoken or will be spoken here can change lives. I will conclude by sharing with my colleagues a quote by Nelson Mandela, who said, “It always seems impossible until it's done”. Let us make this Parliament a time to work together—”
“Mr. Speaker, I thank my colleague for her speech. Once again, I would like to congratulate her on her election, her dedication and her community involvement. My colleague listed several elements of the Speech from the Throne and spoke about several measures that the Prime Minister will be implementing. Can she tell us about this government's priorities, including tax cuts? Which priority would she like to work on with the Prime Minister to ensure there is progress?”
“Mr. Speaker, as I said in my speech, it is extremely important that artificial intelligence be used in an ethical and inclusive way. The last thing we need is to create an even bigger digital divide. Can AI play a role in rural settings? The answer is a definite yes. AI makes information more easily understandable and simplifies processes. It could be put in place. I have said it before and I will say it again: The difference between our two ridings is an aging population that may not necessarily have access to digital technology. Using artificial intelligence, however, we can explain things in understandable terms to make it more accessible. I believe that. Here is a simple example. We could try to identify infrastructures in our ridings to proactively determine which of them need to be kept or improved.”
“Mr. Speaker, that is a very relevant question. To find correlations between crime indicators, we need to look for the strongest correlations. The member asked a question about a specific government program that I did not really talk about. However, I can say again that we need to take a systemic approach. We cannot just look at one program. We need to take a systemic approach that includes funding for organizations, infrastructure for our youth, and more permanent and ongoing funding for our organizations. That could help. I agree with my colleague. Again, I want to take a systemic and more holistic approach so that we can move forward in a more useful way.”