Dominic Bradley
Newry and Armagh · Social Democratic and Labour Party · Northern Ireland
“Go raibh maith agat, a Cheann Comhairle. Gabhaim buíochas leis an Aire as ucht a ráitis. Ba mhaith liom a fhiafraí den Aire cad é an tionchar a bheas ag na ciorruithe Thuaidh agus Theas ar obair Fhoras na Gaeilge san am atá romhainn? I thank the Minister for her statement.”
“<BR /> <BR />Obviously, the £95,000 cap is at the heart of the matter. As others mentioned, there is concern amongst the representatives of public service workers about this issue. The Committee heard from several trade unions, including UNISON and NIPSA.”
“Go raibh míle maith agat, a Phríomh-LeasCheann Comhairle. Thank you very much, Mr Principal Deputy Speaker. Yes, there have been a number of reservations expressed about the use of the LCM in this context.”
“It also said that the Department of Finance and Personnel's decisions were not based on evidence, either qualitative or quantitative. <BR /> <BR />Responses to the original consultation argued that the current changes would impact negatively on older people.”
“Those challenges could be on the basis of breach of contract, unlawful deductions of earnings based on the contractual right to payment, and on the unfair application of waivers, which could lead to inconsistency across employing authorities.”
“The Bill as it stands will negatively impact on many public servants and change their contractual rights. The proper legislative authority on this matter should remain with the Assembly here, and the LCM does not give the Assembly the opportunity to exercise its authority fully and to scrutinise, according to its role, the detail.”
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“It could work across Departments, as well as within them; it could compensate for the fact that, since devolution — as the Department itself acknowledges — DFP’s role has changed from:”
“I therefore urge the Minister to take account of the contributions made during the debate on this point and to finalise the memorandum of understanding for approval by the Executive and the Assembly. <BR /> <BR />Also, in strengthening the existing oversight arrangements, we have heard that the Committee sees the need for the Executive to put in place a "‘panel of experts’ or commission" to provide it with an independent critique of planned savings and efficiencies in the ongoing implementation. Rather than supplanting the role of Assembly Committees and other scrutineers, this body would address a key gap in the financial oversight and control arrangements.”
“That will help to ensure that the Assembly and its Committees can exercise their advisory and scrutiny functions effectively in relation to departmental budgets and expenditure. <BR /> <BR />There has never been a more important time for strong oversight by Assembly Statutory Committees. They need to be facilitated in ensuring that the Executive’s strategic priorities are delivered effectively and efficiently and in assisting in identifying problems early enough to allow for corrective action. At a strategic level, more effective Assembly input to and scrutiny of the Executive’s Budget and expenditure will help to further demonstrate that devolution is making a difference in delivering accountable, responsible and efficient governance in Northern Ireland.”
“<BR /> <BR />For too many years, we have heard the same issues highlighted in debates about the weaknesses in our budgetary system and processes. The time has come for those to be finally addressed, especially given the scale of the financial challenges that lie ahead of us. As the Chairperson highlighted, an important first step would be to agree the memorandum of understanding on the Budget process.”
“That said, we must not lose sight of the other key economic levers, including the necessary infrastructure and the supply of an appropriately educated and skilled workforce. Various Members, including the Minister, picked up on those issues. The Committee has called on the Executive, in finalising the Budget, to give priority to addressing the risk to university and FE places. I acknowledge that the Minister gave an undertaking today that he will do all within his powers to remedy that particular weakness in the Budget. Indeed, it could be argued that that is a key weakness in the draft Budget and that it stems from the lack of transparency on such things as the rationale for not making the necessary budgetary provision and the reasons why that risk was not identified and addressed at an earlier stage.”
“Relating back to the transparency theme that I mentioned, the Committee has expressed concerns that there has been no apparent agreement yet from the UK Government on some aspects of how the costs to the Executive of reducing the rate of corporation tax will be calculated, including whether the interpretation of the term "full fiscal consequences" includes any resulting additional income tax and reduced welfare payments. Reliable and timely information will be vital in enabling the Assembly to monitor projected tax receipts and scrutinise arrangements for managing volatility. <BR /> <BR />I think it is safe to say that many agree that devolving corporation tax will provide exciting opportunities for existing businesses to invest and grow and for attracting new foreign direct investment to the region.”
“Not only would that debate engage the electorate in the difficult choices faced by the Assembly but it could be the catalyst for healthy debate on the areas that should be further prioritised or protected in future Budgets. Whilst I am in no doubt that we will have differing views on the measures that should be taken, that would present an opportunity for us to take stock of wider public views and opinions. <BR /> <BR />As we all heard last week, legislation is being brought forward at Westminster that will see the unprecedented move to devolve corporation tax, a tool that can assist us in our efforts to grow the economy.”
“If the Executive and we as an Assembly are to make the right choices for the people who elect us, the timely provision of reliable information is also critical. That will need to be underpinned by a robust process that provides transparency and sufficient opportunities for scrutiny. The need for the timely provision of reliable information will become all the more important over the coming years. <BR /> <BR />In his opening comments, the Chairperson highlighted the Committee's recommendation on the need for an informed debate on all the options for raising revenue, including additional fiscal powers. More widely, the draft Budget has been subject to a level of criticism for not offsetting reductions in public services by introducing mechanisms to increase revenue.”
“However, this devolved Assembly, like the Scottish Parliament, for example, has different processes, which reflect local conditions. While acknowledging the rather exceptional circumstances surrounding the draft Budget 2015-16, the Committee nonetheless pointed to the Sedley, or Gunning, principles on fair consultation, which have been applied in local case law, and highlighted how the time afforded for consultation and scrutiny falls far short of international good practice.”
“<BR /> <BR />The Minister, when launching the draft Budget, defended the shorter eight-week consultation period by referring to the process in Westminster, where he explained the position for MPs. He said:”
“This includes the rationale behind decisions to make or not make allocations to particular services or departmental functions and the impact of such decisions, including what specific safeguards will be put in place to prevent priority front-line services being affected. Indeed, some Members made the point that it was important that we have a definition of what front-line services actually are as they seem to vary from Department to Department. Other Members mentioned the importance of certain front-line services being protected and the danger of relegating the funding of such services to monitoring rounds. Concerns were also raised about the lack of proper and meaningful engagement with Committees, primarily as a result of a shorter consultation period and in the absence of detailed spending plans.”
“<BR /> <BR />The Committee Chairperson pointed out, in his opening remarks, that the conclusions and recommendations in the Committee's coordinated report could be grouped under two broad themes. First, there is a need for greater transparency and more information on budgetary decisions. Secondly, specific measures need to be taken to provide assurance going forward. I think that many of the issues raised in the subsequent contributions from representatives of the other Committees and by individual Members could easily fall under these themes. <BR /> <BR />We have heard calls for improvements to budgetary information.”
“Go raibh míle maith agat, a Cheann Comhairle. Ar an chéad dul síos, ba mhaith liom comhghairdeas a dhéanamh leat féin as do cheapachán mar Cheann Comhairle. First, Mr Speaker, I would like to congratulate you on your election as Speaker. Chomh maith leis sin, ba mhaith liom an deis seo a ghlacadh le buíochas a ghabháil le chuile dhuine a ghlac páirt sa díospóireacht inniu ar an rún tábhachtach seo ón Choiste Airgeadais agus Pearsanra. I would also like to thank all those who took part in the debate on the Committee's motion. Rather than giving a blow-by-blow rehearsal of everything that was said by individual Members, I intend to try to draw out some of the themes and points that came out of the debate.”
“Go raibh míle maith agat, a LeasCheann Comhairle. Gabhaim buíochas leis an Aire as a fhreagra. I thank the Minister for his answer. Given the fact that major changes are coming in the welfare area — major cuts; some want to call them "reform", I prefer to call them cuts — what has he learned from the pilot scheme that will benefit people on benefits in the new situation?”
“Go raibh míle maith agat, a LeasCheann Comhairle. Tcím ón ráiteas go raibh plé ag an Aire agus a leathbhreac faoi shubstaintí sícighníomhacha le linn an chruinnithe. Ba mhaith liom a fhiafraí de caidé atá ar intinn aige a dhéanamh leis an mhéid a d’fhoghlaim sé faoin dlí fé mar atá sé sa Deisceart. I see from the Minister's statement that he discussed legal highs. What does he intend to do with the information that he has gleaned about the law as it operates in the South?”
“Go raibh maith agat, a LeasCheann Comhairle. An dtig liom fiafraí den LeasChéad-Aire an raibh aon phlé ag an chruinniú faoi na heagraíochta Gaeilge anseo i mBéal Feirste a mbeidh deireadh leo de bharr na samhla nua maoinithe, mar shampla an tIontaobhas Ultach, atá imithe cheana féin, agus Pobal, atá i mbaol a bháis? Caidé an tionchar a bhéas aige sin? Could I ask the deputy First Minister whether there was any discussion at the meeting about those Irish language organisations here in Belfast that will disappear as a result of the new funding model being operated by Foras na Gaelige and if the influence of the disappearance of those organisations was also discussed?”
“We must, to the greatest extent possible, help to ensure that there are shared housing projects and that people have the opportunity, if they so desire, to live in such settings. <BR /> <BR />The clock has beaten me on this occasion. Gabhaim buíochas leat. Go raibh míle maith agat.”
“Social housing was referred to. The segregated nature of housing here is regrettable. Unfortunately, it can ease the way for Ministers who would like to allocate housing on the basis of creed rather than need. We all know that people want to live in their own area, where they grew up alongside friends and family, where they were educated, and so on. We must —”
“It would send out a very positive sign to our society at the present time, a time when the currency of politics is not at its highest and, in fact, the reverse is probably true.”
“The barriers to a shared society are not insurmountable, although the scars of division run deep. They must be addressed in any strategy for a shared future, and it will fail if it restricts itself to a question of bricks and mortar. Divisions cannot be resolved simply by carving up funding for projects. A shared future must be supported and sustained by the necessary funding, which has to be underpinned by an understanding of the complex cultural and social landscape in which we live in this part of the world. <BR /> <BR />The lines of division must not ignore the invisible cultural and social underlying causes. As part of the current talks, we have the issues of the past, flags and identity. Those are all issues that we have to deal with, and it would be a welcome advance if the current talks were to progress those issues.”
“One would hope that a shared future would enrich the life of everyone here and that it should be prioritised by each Department and collectively by the Executive and, perhaps more importantly, by every political party here not only in their policy documents but in what they say and do in public. Unfortunately, as we have seen in the past, that has not always been the case. A shared future should benefit our society individually, socially and economically, but we must not look on a shared future as something that is easy or simple. It is a difficult problem, and it will be difficult to resolve. <BR /> <BR />A cohesive and integrated society cannot be achieved simply by pretending that reducing the number of buildings that we have will solve the problem. A truly shared future cannot be achieved without coming to terms with our past.”
“Go raibh maith agat, a LeasCheann Comhairle. Tá áthas orm tacaíocht a thabhairt don rún seo. I am pleased to support the motion. As we have heard, no party in the House denies the cost of division in our society. We must remember that the cost is not only in economic terms but, tragically, in the thousands of lives that have been lost here over the years and the attitudes that continue generation after generation and turn the problem into a vicious circle. <BR /> <BR />Unfortunately, the traditional lines of division have not been healed, and, as we have heard some Members say today, they have extended to racist attacks in our now multicultural society.”
“Go raibh maith agat, a Phríomh-LeasCheann Comhairle. Gabhaim buíochas leis an Aire as a fhreagra. I thank the deputy First Minister for his answer. Does he support the proposal for five-party Budget talks with Downing Street and the Treasury? Does he agree with me that these talks should take place now, this week, so that London will acknowledge once and for all the particular financial needs of people here in Northern Ireland?”
“Go raibh maith agat arís, a Phríomh-LeasCheann Comhairle. Gabhaim buíochas leis an Aire as ucht a ráitis. I note that the Minister said that representatives were able to report positive signs of growth across a range of indicators in the economy. Was there any discussion of the damage being done to the economy by the austerity policies being pursued by the coalition Government in Westminster?”
“Go raibh míle maith agat, a Phríomh-LeasCheann Comhairle. Gabhaimse buíochas fosta leis an Aire as ucht a ráitis ar maidin. Ag amharc ar an darna leathanach den ráiteas, is iontach liom an meas atá ag muintir na hAlban agus ag muintir na Breataine Bige ar a dteangacha, agus ritheann sé liom gur trua nach léirítear an meas céadna ar an Ghaeilge anseo. In reference to the theme of legislation and policy, it strikes me that the people of Scotland and Wales have great respect for their languages; perhaps there are people here who could learn something from them. Tá ceist agam faoin téama áirithe sin. Will the Minister tell us what she learned from the discussions around legislation that might be helpful to us here as we plan an Irish language Act? Go raibh míle maith agat.”
“<BR /> <BR />Members of Sinn Féin who speak in the debate have the opportunity to withdraw that vile accusation, and I hope that they will do so. It would help the family if Sinn Féin withdrew the criminal slur on Paul's name, and I firmly believe that Sinn Féin can do more than that again: its members need to come forward and tell the PSNI and an Garda Síochána all that they know about Paul Quinn's murder. There must be no hiding place for murderers, and certainly not in the ranks of a political party. The denial of truth must not prevail. <BR /> <BR />At the end of the week, a report on the talks will go to David Cameron and Enda Kenny. The message in that report should be that those who seek to protect the state or paramilitary interests should not prevail. Nochtfar an fhírinne, luath nó mall. The truth shall out, sooner or later.”
“<BR /> <BR />The accusation that Paul Quinn was a criminal, unsubstantiated as it was, added salt to an already deep wound that had been inflicted on the Quinn family. It was repeated by other leadership figures in Sinn Féin, including Gerry Adams, and was part of the usual whispering campaign that the IRA engaged in to smear their victims and justify their deeds. <BR /> <BR />The Quinn family has constantly demanded that Sinn Féin withdraw the accusation. However, not only did Mr Murphy fail to withdraw it, he compounded it on the record here in the debate in 2008. The Irish Foreign Minister, the Taoiseach, the British Secretary of State and the Chief Constable of the PSNI all set the record straight, and that has been of some consolation to the family.”
“It has been sullied by those who engaged in murder, whether they were members of state forces, state forces colluding with loyalist paramilitaries, or republican paramilitaries. <BR /> <BR />I have lived in south Armagh all my life, and I am very proud of the local people; most of them did their best to lead normal lives in the midst of the mayhem around them. south Armagh was not run, as some would say, from a republican kitchen somewhere. It was run from every normal home in which parents attempted to feed their families and send them to school every day, and go to work themselves to earn a living. It was run by those genuine sporting and cultural organisations that attempted to give young people some form of recreation and some alternative to violence.”
“<BR /> <BR />Those who murdered Paul Quinn most likely still live in the local area and go about their daily lives there; the Quinn family believes that they are closely connected to Sinn Féin. After Paul's murder, Conor Murphy was quick to conclude that the IRA was not involved and said that it was the result of a row or fallout between criminal gangs. Previously, he had berated Seamus Mallon for suggesting that there was a criminal gang in south Armagh. However, when it suited him, there was not only one criminal gang but two; not only that, they were capable of murder. <BR /> <BR />Miss Fearon believes that RTÉ is responsible for sullying the reputation of south Armagh. The reputation of south Armagh has been sullied down through the years, but not by RTÉ.”
“They are here today in the Public Gallery. I welcome them. They have refused to be cowed. They have refused to be silenced. They have continued to demand justice. They will not go away until they get justice. <BR /> <BR />It is to help them in their quest that I have tabled the motion before the House today. I spoke to them after the seventh anniversary mass in Cullyhanna chapel some weeks ago, and, afterwards, I gave them an undertaking that I would continue to support their campaign. I have tabled motions and spoken on previous motions about murders that were committed by the IRA and by state forces in collusion with loyalist paramilitaries in south Armagh. That is all part of the history of the area.”
“The dirty war was over, but it seemed that a dirty peace was beginning. <BR /> <BR />I remember going to the hospital in Drogheda that night and meeting his mother, Briege, and his father, Stephen, who were distraught with grief and, with other members of the family, were gathered around his body. All attempts at resuscitation had failed. His family were adamant that the IRA was responsible. They had known that Paul had fallen foul of some them locally. This was the revenge. <BR /> <BR />As I said, the aim of Paul’s murder was to teach others not to cross them, to show that they still controlled the community and to silence him. Although they beat him to death that night, ironically, his voice is still heard. His parents, Briege and Stephen, have continued to speak for him and to fight for justice for him.”
“<BR /> <BR />Paul was brutally murdered on Saturday 20 October 2007, as I said, in a shed just inside County Monaghan. I pass that spot several times a year on my way to football matches in Clones. Invariably, my passengers say to me as we pass it, "That’s where young Quinn was murdered". I think of the scene that day; a gang of up to ten men dressed in boiler suits, armed with iron bars and nail-studded clubs, beating 21-year-old Paul until his life ebbed away. His mother, Briege, frequently says to me, "Dominic, they broke every bone in his body." The question is this: why? Why would anyone want to do that to a young man of 21? The reason is that those people wanted to show who was boss in the area. They wanted to show who had control of the area. Remember, Paul’s death happened nine years after the signing of the Good Friday Agreement.”
“The whole organisation of Paul Quinn's murder smacked of paramilitary planning and forethought to the extent that the scene was forensically cleansed afterwards, similar to what happened after Robert McCartney’s murder, only probably better organised. The purpose of that was to ensure that any DNA evidence was destroyed and that detection would be made extremely difficult. Mar is eol dúinn, ní thig a bheith cinnte céad faoin gcéad I gcásanna mar seo. As we are aware, there is no certainty in these matters, and, as science develops, evidence that once yielded no information can tell the tale and lead to prosecutions and convictions. That may yet prove to be the outcome of this case. I hope that it will be and that those responsible will be brought to justice.”
“It is seven years since Paul Quinn was murdered just inside County Monaghan. Those who murdered him, according to the Independent Monitoring Commission (IMC):”
“Go raibh míle maith agat, a Phríomh-LeasCheann Comhairle. Iarraím cead an rún seo a mholadh. Tá an ceart agat. Tá sé seacht mbliana ó dúnmharaíodh Paul Quinn I gContae Mhuinicheáin.”
“I have listened to what the Member has said. Does the Member not recall that, when the previous Pensions Bill went through the House, amendments and modifications were made to it, one of which was in favour of the Fire Service? It is not good enough for us to sit back and pass whatever Bill comes before the House without question or amendment; it is our duty to scrutinise it and, where we can, amend it and make it better for the people in Northern Ireland. That is our duty.”
“— nothing has come out of that, and that is almost five years ago. When can we expect to see a comprehensive policy for Irish in the Assembly?”
“Go raibh maith agat, a LeasCheann Comhairle. Ar an téama chéanna, tá sé tamall de bhlianta ó shin anois ó bhí comhairliúchán ag an Choimisiún maidir le polasaí Gaeilge ginearálta don Tionól. Is cuimhin liom gur chuir mé aighneacht isteach ar an chomhairliúchán, ach níor tháinig polasaí ar bith as sin ó shin i leith. Ba mhaith liom a fhiafraí de bhall an Choimisiúin cá huair a thig linn a bheith ag brath le polasaí cuimsitheach Gaeilge don Tionól. It is some years since the Commission conducted a survey on the Irish language policy for the Assembly in general. I remember making a submission to that exercise. As of this point —”
“Go raibh maith agat, a LeasCheann Comhairle. Gabhaim buíochas leis an Aire as a fhreagraí. An aontaíonn an tAire liomsa go bhfuil gá le mion-fhiosrúchán a dhéanamh ar an tionscnamh seo, toisc nár láimhseáladh go maith é? Would the Minister agree with me that there is a need for a proper investigation of how the project was handled? There is consensus that it was handled very badly.”
“Go raibh míle maith agat arís, a Phríomh-LeasCheann Comhairle. Gabhaim buíochas leis an Aire as an fhreagra chuimsitheach sin. Thank you very much, Mr Principal Deputy Speaker, and I thank the Minister for that comprehensive answer. Does the Minister agree with me that the Executive have been hoodwinked by the Harbour Commissioners? Will he now give us an assurance that he will make efforts to ensure that we receive the £20 million that is due to us?”
“A Gregorian chant is a form of liturgy that came into vogue during the reign of Pope Gregory.”
“Go raibh míle maith agat, a Phríomh-LeasCheann Comhairle. Seo í mo cheist ar an Aire. De réir an Bhuiséid atá i réim faoi láthair, bhí £20 milliún le teacht ó Choimisinéirí Chalafort Bhéal Feirste, ach níor tháinig an t-airgead sin chuig an Choiste Feidhmiúcháin. Ba mhaith liom a fhiafraí den Aire cad chuige nár tháinig an t-airgead sin. <BR /> <BR />In case you think that that was a Gregorian chant, it was not.”
“Go raibh maith agat, a Phríomh-LeasCheann Comhairle. Gabhaim buíochas leis an Aire as an fhreagra sin agus tá ceist agam don Aire faoin chóras oibre solúbtha san earnáil phoiblí. I thank the Minister for his answer. The Minister heard the debate yesterday on flexible working. One of the points made during that debate related to the considerable savings made through flexible working arrangements in Whitehall Departments. Does the Minister agree that it is preferable to make savings through the promotion of flexible working arrangements rather than a reduction in the headcount in the public service?”
“We now have the opportunity through this inquiry report to exploit the synergy with other Executive policies and priorities, particularly the Minister's public sector reform agenda. <BR /> <BR />The Committee looks forward to receiving a formal response to the inquiry report after the Department has reflected on the evidence and recommendations therein. I, therefore, commend the report to the House and ask for support for the Committee's motion. A Phríomh-LeasCheann Comhairle, gabhaim buíochas leat, agus iarraím ar na Comhaltaí tacaíocht a thabhairt don rún.”
“<BR /> <BR />In launching the draft 2015-16 Budget, the Minister referred to the change fund, which is tailored specifically toward reform-orientated projects that are innovative, involve collaboration between Departments and agencies or are focused on prevention. That may perhaps offer an appropriate source of funding for some costs associated with the proposals. Moreover, we should be mindful that there is less pressure on the capital side of the Budget and that the potential of longer-term savings cannot be ignored. <BR /> <BR />In conclusion, I emphasise the point, made earlier, that we are lagging behind other jurisdictions in exploiting the benefits of a strategic approach. In particular, Whitehall Departments are stealing a march on us.”
“<BR /> <BR />We are all too aware that Departments are under severe budgetary pressure that, according to the Finance Minister, will continue for some years to come. The Committee has emphasised, however, that the initial outlay should be seen as an invest-to-save measure in view of the longer-term resultant savings and other significant benefits. Consider the annual savings in office accommodation costs and capital receipts that Whitehall Departments and local councils in Britain have realised, as was indicated in the Chairman's opening remarks. Those could be replicated here, together with other benefits for public sector employers and staff, but only if the consolidation of property and the roll-out of smart workplace design is accompanied by a strategic and coordinated application of flexible working practices.”
“The difference is that this is not being controlled or monitored centrally. The laissez-faire approach, whereby arrangements are left to be agreed at line-management level, arises from the absence of corporate policy and guidance and is reflected by incomplete data on existing practices. It is not evident that any safeguards are in place to ensure fairness and consistency of approach or for effective performance management. The implementation of the inquiry's recommendations would serve to address that weakness and would mitigate the risks while maximising the benefits. <BR /> <BR />A further barrier that has been noted is the cost of implementing the proposals. The Committee has acknowledged that those could be significant, including the costs of property design, new equipment, facilities and project management.”
“We have also heard about how safeguards can be applied to new ways of keeping in contact with staff, including teamwork protocols such as shared calendars. Modern technology means that monitoring is possible no matter where an employee works. <BR /> <BR />When considering the perceived barriers regarding job suitability and managing the performance of remote workers, it must also be remembered that flexible location working, including homeworking, already happens in the Civil Service.”
“<BR /> <BR />We have heard how there needs to be a cultural shift away from management by presence to management by results. The argument that the performance of remote workers can be too difficult to manage is another fallacy. In fact, one could argue that performance management should always be based on results and outcomes. Irrespective of the job role or where it is undertaken, the manager and the jobholder should be clear on what quantity and quality of work is expected or what output is to be delivered, and appropriate measures should be in place. <BR /> <BR />We have noted that having more people working in different places and at different times should be seen as an opportunity to tighten things up and get more systematic on performance management.”
“In return for the personal benefits of flexible working, including improved work/life balance and reduced travel, employees will need to demonstrate flexibility on their part. <BR /> <BR />Another perceived barrier is that only certain types of public sector job are suited to flexible working. The evidence shows that that can be used as a cop-out. It has been shown that, by assessing and breaking down the work styles and tasks of job roles, flexibility can be applied to certain aspects of public sector roles that are less obviously suited to flexible working, such as teachers and doctors. In such cases it may only be parts of a job that are suitable, but no assumptions should be made about people or roles before undertaking a transparent assessment of the job tasks.”