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Ross Greer

Scottish Green Party · Scotland

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In the short term, will the Government introduce measures such as the Scottish Greens’ proposed Amazon tax—a higher rate of NDR for large online retailers—to help even the playing field for small businesses and local high streets?

MEETING OF THE PARLIAMENT, 2026-06-23 · READ THE OFFICIAL REPORT

I welcome the fact that vape shops will now be paying full rates. However, that shows how poorly designed the small business bonus scheme was in the first place. The Government spends more than £200 million a year on untargeted reliefs, despite its own review finding no economic benefit to the scheme.

MEETING OF THE PARLIAMENT, 2026-06-23 · READ THE OFFICIAL REPORT

Scotland faces a wave of applications for hyperscale data centres. If all the applications that are currently in the pipeline were approved, they would consume up to 6,000MW of power, which is more than one and a half times our entire national power use at peak time and is obviously completely impossible.

MEETING OF THE PARLIAMENT, 2026-06-18 · READ THE OFFICIAL REPORT

The Government’s policy is to support what it refers to as “green” data centres, but that position was decided before ChatGPT existed, before Elon Musk launched Grok and before any of those hyperscale proposals came forward. So, what is the Scottish Government’s definition of a “green” data centre?

MEETING OF THE PARLIAMENT, 2026-06-18 · READ THE OFFICIAL REPORT

I am glad that the Labour Party has secured a debate on restoring public trust in Scottish politics, because, quite clearly, the public have very little trust in our political institutions. However, that did not begin and does not end with Peter Murrell’s crimes against the SNP.

MEETING OF THE PARLIAMENT, 2026-06-10 · READ THE OFFICIAL REPORT

If we want to talk about the damage that has been done to our politics in a UK context, we could mention Labour Together, an institution with strong links to the Prime Minister that was caught spying on journalists and did not declare substantial amounts of money that it had received in donations.

MEETING OF THE PARLIAMENT, 2026-06-10 · READ THE OFFICIAL REPORT

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  1. Likewise, on amendment 364, the arrangements for a broadly similar provision in the UK stamp duty land tax regime indicate that that is a highly complex proposition. Detailed consultation, including with Revenue Scotland, would be essential before any legislation on a surcharge could be considered. I will move as quickly as I can, Presiding Officer. Amendment 247, in the name of Graham Simpson, is defective. It appears to be based on an out-of-date version of the relevant order, so I cannot accept it. I am not sure whether someone other than Rachael Hamilton will speak to her amendment 376 on the visitor levy, but, under section 75 of the Visitor Levy (Scotland) Act 2024, there is already a requirement on ministers to review the operation of that act and to prepare a report to lay before the Parliament.

    MEETING OF THE PARLIAMENT, 2025-09-30 · READ THE OFFICIAL REPORT

  2. Amendment 362, on the application to the Crown of the Land and Buildings Transaction Tax (Scotland) Act 2013, introduces some ambiguity into the LBTT framework by referring to “residential property transactions”, but it is not clear whether it is intended to apply to mixed-use or linked transactions. It is most important for matters of tax to be clear and not to be introduced at stage 3 of a bill, when difficulties in drafting cannot be overcome. I therefore cannot support amendment 362. Members will be aware that the additional dwelling supplement is set at a flat rate of 8 per cent in addition to the core rates of LBTT. Amendments 363 and 365 would allow for a significant divergence from existing arrangements and long-standing policy and would require a thorough consultation to explore the case for change.

    MEETING OF THE PARLIAMENT, 2025-09-30 · READ THE OFFICIAL REPORT

  3. My point is that we need to do that work to consider it and, importantly, to consult those who are affected. Amendment 361 seeks to restrict the exemption from LBTT of the purchases of military headquarters and barracks by overseas visiting forces. The introduction of that relief was considered necessary as a consequence of UK international treaty obligations and NATO agreements. Most important, however, on the basis of defence and international relations reservations under the Scotland Act 1998, the removal of the exemption is likely to be outside parliamentary competence, and I cannot support it.

    MEETING OF THE PARLIAMENT, 2025-09-30 · READ THE OFFICIAL REPORT

  4. Ross Greer: I am happy not to move amendment 357 if the cabinet secretary will confirm that the kind of further consultation that the Government believes is required will now be undertaken, and echo what the First Minister said last week, when he appeared to agree on the point of principle that the current rules on council tax debt are not working for struggling families and that some kind of reform is necessary. If the Government agrees on that point of principle and undertakes that that consultation will happen, I am happy not to move amendment 357, because that would be sufficient progress for me. Màiri McAllan: Yes. As the First Minister said at First Minister’s question time last week, the Government is very sympathetic to the inherent unfairness in the current system and to considering how it could be improved.

    MEETING OF THE PARLIAMENT, 2025-09-30 · READ THE OFFICIAL REPORT

  5. However, on the generality, I am very sympathetic to the points that were raised about the need to be considerate over what long-term debt feels like for those who experience it, and the impact that it can have on families. However, this stage in this bill is not the right place to do it, and we ought to have close consultation, including with local authorities, on what we might do, not least so that we can get the prescriptive period right and make sure that it is as fair as possible.

    MEETING OF THE PARLIAMENT, 2025-09-30 · READ THE OFFICIAL REPORT

  6. Màiri McAllan: I absolutely support the contention that victims and survivors should not be liable for abusers’ debts, but all that I am saying is that I will await the work that we have committed to being done before committing to an approach in primary legislation. That is a sensible approach. On Ross Greer’s amendment 357 on the prescriptive period for council tax debt, the most important thing to highlight to the chamber is that the five-year period that is mooted could be reset when recovery action is taken or whenever there is an acknowledgement of the debt. I suspect that that was probably not Mr Greer’s intention, because I understand his principled position that 20 years is too long and that five years is more appropriate. I expect that he probably did not intend that it could reset and go on beyond five years.

    MEETING OF THE PARLIAMENT, 2025-09-30 · READ THE OFFICIAL REPORT

  7. I do not want to pre-empt the outcome of that review, because I want to make sure that the provision works, because the experience of victims and survivors is very important to me. Ross Greer: Will the cabinet secretary give way? Màiri McAllan: I have a huge amount to get to, but yes—absolutely. The Deputy Presiding Officer: Ross Greer, briefly. Ross Greer: I hope that this will save us time in a moment, Presiding Officer. I am happy not to press amendment 356 if the cabinet secretary will confirm that the Government’s intended outcome is that survivors are never put in the position of having to pay off their abusers’ debts.

    MEETING OF THE PARLIAMENT, 2025-09-30 · READ THE OFFICIAL REPORT

  8. On amendments 354 and 355, we worked closely with the Convention of Scottish Local Authorities to deliver the first council tax premium on second homes from 24 April. Of course, in our 2025 programme for government, we committed to go further by removing the remaining constraints. The amendment delivers on that, so I am pleased to have worked with Mr Greer on it, and to support it. On amendment 356, we recognise that joint and several liability for council tax can create very difficult circumstances for people who are experiencing or have experienced abuse. That is why, at stage 2, we supported the amendment to require a review of how council tax arrears in that situation affect individuals, and Mr Greer spoke to that. The outcome of that review will be reported to Parliament and will give us a much clearer understanding.

    MEETING OF THE PARLIAMENT, 2025-09-30 · READ THE OFFICIAL REPORT

  9. That is precisely why the Government, working with the Convention of Scottish Local Authorities, has launched a programme of engagement to build consensus. Elements of the amendment appear to be without legal effect, as they purport to rely on a provision that can be used only to change tax bandings. However, the much more important point is that an independent report from the Institute for Fiscal Studies will be shortly published, which will provide robust analysis of market trends and options for reform. That will be followed by formal consultation with town hall events across Scotland, which will lead to a debate in Parliament in early 2026. That will allow us to test illustrative proposals openly and to be evidence led, and we must allow that work to continue.

    MEETING OF THE PARLIAMENT, 2025-09-30 · READ THE OFFICIAL REPORT

  10. That presents a clear compliance risk, so I cannot support the amendments. Amendment 360 would require ministers to publish a report on LBTT in the context of housing co-operatives and other community-led housing models. That is best considered in the context of the Government’s broader position on such housing models, rather than considering tax on that matter in isolation. I must again talk to my leading position, which is about the need for consultation and preparation for any changes in tax. The Government cannot support amendment 353, which is on a full council tax revaluation. Although there is broad agreement on the need for council tax reform, there are different views on how that should be taken forward.

    MEETING OF THE PARLIAMENT, 2025-09-30 · READ THE OFFICIAL REPORT

  11. That would normally be taken forward in a tax-specific piece of legislation, with any proposed changes expected to follow focused taxpayer and stakeholder consultation. It would also normally involve collaborative working with Revenue Scotland to ensure effective administration and compliance, and then be considered by the relevant committee. Lodging the amendments at this stage, and at this stage of a housing bill, is far from the right approach. That said, Ms Burgess’s amendments 113 and 144 were previously considered at stage 2. Existing LBTT arrangements provide relief to those co-operatives that are registered as a social landlord with the Scottish Housing Regulator or that operate as registered charities, but the exemption that is proposed would mean that transactions do not have to be notified at all to Revenue Scotland.

    MEETING OF THE PARLIAMENT, 2025-09-30 · READ THE OFFICIAL REPORT

  12. I call the cabinet secretary to speak to amendment 245 and other amendments in the group. Màiri McAllan: Presiding Officer, as Mr Greer’s contribution demonstrated, there are rather a lot of amendments in group 26. I will try to be as quick as I can. It is our penultimate group, however, so I hope that you will afford me a little time so that I can give members the courtesy of a response. I will start with my amendments 245 and 246, which are about extending the timeframe for completing the review of the impact of a joint and several liability for council tax arrears in domestic abuse to 12 months after royal assent. That is to ensure that we can gather the necessary evidence and consult properly with stakeholders. In general, as we have heard, some of the amendments in the group propose to make changes to LBTT.

    MEETING OF THE PARLIAMENT, 2025-09-30 · READ THE OFFICIAL REPORT

  13. During the passage of the Scottish Languages Bill, we all acknowledged that the biggest threat to Gaelic-speaking communities is the rural housing crisis, and the key driver of that is second and holiday home ownership. Making it that bit more expensive to buy a second home in some of our most fragile communities would be an important tool for protecting Gaelic. I hope that the cabinet secretary will respond positively to those proposals to fix elements of our property tax system that are, frankly, currently rigged against ordinary people and in favour of the wealthy few. I move amendment 353. The Deputy Presiding Officer: I point out that, if amendment 251, rather than amendment 231, is agreed to, I will be unable to call amendment 359 due to pre-emption.

    MEETING OF THE PARLIAMENT, 2025-09-30 · READ THE OFFICIAL REPORT

  14. Like the council tax debt collection rules, that is an area where the law in England is far more progressive than the law in Scotland, and we should fix that. Amendment 364—I am almost done, Presiding Officer—would allow ministers to impose a surcharge on overseas buyers of additional property. To be clear, I note that it would not apply to people who are looking to move and live here. It would apply largely to the super-rich who are buying up homes here for holidaying or property speculation. The growing overseas ownership of Scottish land and property is a scandal that this Parliament should get to grips with. Amendment 365 would allow ministers to impose a LBTT surcharge on the purchase of second and holiday homes in areas of linguistic significance.

    MEETING OF THE PARLIAMENT, 2025-09-30 · READ THE OFFICIAL REPORT

  15. On a similar note, amendment 362 would end the Crown’s exemption from LBTT in Scotland for residential property. It is absurd that one particular billionaire gets a personal tax break. If my constituents need to pay LBTT when they are buying a property, I think that the King should, too. Amendment 363 would allow ministers to impose a surcharge when companies are buying up residential property. At present, as the Land and Buildings Transaction Tax (Scotland) Act 2013 is drafted, we can set only one rate, which serves as both the additional dwelling supplement for individuals and the company surcharge. I want to separate those two surcharges to allow for greater targeting. In England, the stamp duty surcharge on companies is 17 per cent, while in Scotland, because it is tied to the additional dwelling supplement, it is just 8 per cent.

    MEETING OF THE PARLIAMENT, 2025-09-30 · READ THE OFFICIAL REPORT

  16. In Wales, a property has to be available for 252 days and let out for 182 days in a year for it to move from council tax to NDR. In Scotland, it is just 140 days and 70 days respectively. If we matched the Welsh dates, we would have more short-term lets paying the second home council tax surcharge and fewer paying no tax through qualifying for 100 per cent NDR relief. Given the impact of short-term lets on housing supply everywhere from here in the centre of Edinburgh to Arran, I do not think that we should be making it easier for those people to reduce their tax contributions. Amendment 361 would end the relief from land and buildings transaction tax for foreign militaries. In short, if President Trump’s military wishes to buy property in Scotland, it should pay its taxes like everyone else.

    MEETING OF THE PARLIAMENT, 2025-09-30 · READ THE OFFICIAL REPORT

  17. At present, if someone falls behind on council tax by just a month or two, maybe due to a sudden change in their personal finances, the council can make them liable to pay the full annual balance for that financial year. Councils regularly make things worse for those who are struggling by demanding those massive up-front payments, which are often thousands of pounds, at the exact point at which people can least afford it. Amendment 359 would require ministers, when doing their reviews of short-term let accommodation—which were secured by Rachael Hamilton at stage 2—to consider the cut-off point at which a property goes from being liable for council tax to being liable for non-domestic rates. At present, Scotland is well behind Wales on that.

    MEETING OF THE PARLIAMENT, 2025-09-30 · READ THE OFFICIAL REPORT

  18. For example, when those who are trying to pay off their council tax debts are then unable to pay their rent, they end up homeless, and the council needs to find them housing. As Aberlour has detailed in its research and campaigning, the current system is not working for anyone. It is not working for those who are in debt and it is certainly not working for councils. That is why I am proposing that council tax debts be moved to the five-year limit that already applies to many other forms of debt to the state. Amendments 358 and 386 would mandate ministers to use their existing powers to rewrite the current regulations that govern how councils collect council tax debt. That would give everyone the right to pay council tax on a monthly basis, which is not a right that we currently have.

    MEETING OF THE PARLIAMENT, 2025-09-30 · READ THE OFFICIAL REPORT

  19. Amendment 357 would change the prescription or write-off period for council tax arrears. At present, under the Prescription and Limitation (Scotland) Act 1973, Scottish council tax debts are chased for 20 years, despite the fact that most other types of debt here are written off after five years, and council tax debt in England is written off after six years. 18:45 I have raised that matter with the First Minister twice in the past month so, again, I will not rehearse the arguments in full. Briefly, however, people who have been unable to pay off their debts after five years of enforcement action will almost certainly be struggling, and sending sheriff officers to their door over and over again is not helping anyone. It costs councils a fortune in enforcement costs for the little that they are able to recover, and it has knock-on costs.

    MEETING OF THE PARLIAMENT, 2025-09-30 · READ THE OFFICIAL REPORT

  20. Amendment 356 would make clear beyond doubt that ministers can write off the council tax debts of those who are experiencing or have survived domestic abuse, where, through joint and several liability, they are liable for the debts of their abuser. I was glad to get the Government’s support at stage 2 for an amendment of mine—it features in section 51B—that will lead to a review of the scale of the debt and how we can address it. I hope that, following the review, ministers will be writing off that, frankly, repugnant debt. Survivors should never have to pay off their abusers’ debts. Amendments 245 and 246, in the name of the cabinet secretary, change the time limit for the review that the committee agreed to at stage 2, from six months to a year after royal assent. I am happy to agree to that.

    MEETING OF THE PARLIAMENT, 2025-09-30 · READ THE OFFICIAL REPORT

  21. The amendments would build on what the Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee agreed to at stage 2, which is lifting the 100 per cent cap for the surcharge—effectively, the 200 per cent overall cap on council tax—and allowing for council tax to be more than doubled on second and empty properties. The amendments would complete the process by giving councils the power to increase the surcharge, rather than leaving it entirely up to the Government and Parliament. They would also allow ministers to produce binding guidance as to how that is applied, so that they can set sensible exemptions for situations such as locum general practitioner housing. I would have hoped that that would not have been necessary, but, unfortunately, the behaviour of a couple of councils has merited it.

    MEETING OF THE PARLIAMENT, 2025-09-30 · READ THE OFFICIAL REPORT

  22. That worked—in one year, there were 2,500 fewer second homes in Scotland. That recognises the particular harm that is caused by the huge growth in holiday homes, particularly in rural and island communities. On Arran, which is in my region, communities such as Lamlash are now approaching the point at which a majority of homes are either second homes or short-term lets. In other areas, such as parts of Skye and Wester Ross, they are already well past that point. That is destroying communities. I and other members spoke in detail about the impact that that is having on communities in my members’ business debate before summer recess, so I will not repeat all that now.

    MEETING OF THE PARLIAMENT, 2025-09-30 · READ THE OFFICIAL REPORT

  23. We need accurate property values as a starting point for that reform process. Amendment 353 makes clear that ministers can make further regulations to not implement the revaluation if they do not wish to do so. Undertaking the revaluation would give us a data set on which to base future decisions about reform without committing us to any particular course of action, because I recognise the range of views across Parliament on where we should go with that reform. I think that we can all recognise the need to have the data on which to base those decisions. Amendments 354 and 355 would allow councils to increase council tax on second and empty homes. I am grateful to the Government for working with me on those amendments. In 2023, we regulated to let councils impose a 100 per cent surcharge, if they wished to, on those properties.

    MEETING OF THE PARLIAMENT, 2025-09-30 · READ THE OFFICIAL REPORT

  24. We have saved the best for almost last. Who does not want to be discussing council tax reform with me on a Tuesday evening? I am glad that colleagues in the Finance and Public Administration Committee have made it back in time from Lithuania for this. Amendment 353 seeks to mandate ministers to undertake a property revaluation for council tax. We debated the issue at stage 2, when I moved a different but related amendment, and I have raised the matter in a number of other settings, so I will not rehearse all of that now. Suffice to say that it is absurd that we all pay council tax that is based on property values that we know are wrong and 34 years out of date. Every party has recognised that our council tax system needs to change, regardless of what long- term reform looks like.

    MEETING OF THE PARLIAMENT, 2025-09-30 · READ THE OFFICIAL REPORT

  25. It is also an opportunity for us to get far better value for money from what is currently being delivered. Ultimately, we are trying to meet the needs not just of our economy but of our society at large. The bill might not be the opportunity to do that, but we should take it one further stage to identify whether it is an opportunity that we should not miss out on. 15:36

    MEETING OF THE PARLIAMENT, 2025-09-25 · READ THE OFFICIAL REPORT

  26. There is a need for a clear economic strategy from the Government and for clear ministerial leadership. The Greens will support the bill at stage 1, because there are opportunities to make significant improvements before we get to the final vote at stage 3. We have no fixed view yet on how we might vote at that stage, because my hope is that, by that point, the bill will be very different. We want to take the opportunity to add to and change the bill. I urge colleagues to come to stage 2 with the kind of ideas and proposals that we heard in the collection of evidence at stage 1 and that we will hear in this afternoon’s debate. This is an opportunity to get the level of alignment that we all agree is required in our skills development sector and that we know is required for our economy.

    MEETING OF THE PARLIAMENT, 2025-09-25 · READ THE OFFICIAL REPORT

  27. If the Government is to provide leadership to the bodies that provide the skills and training opportunities for the kind of economy that we need, it must make a decision on what kind of economy we need and what kind of economy we want. The national strategy for economic transformation is a document that is not strategic or transformative, because the Government has not taken the difficult decisions by saying, “Here are the sectors that we will prioritise. Our resources are finite. Here is where the greatest opportunity is. This is where the investment must be.” That is the direction that is, ultimately, required. The bill is not perfect, and I will set out the range of reasons why in my closing speech and when discussing potential amendments. However, even a perfect bill would not be enough.

    MEETING OF THE PARLIAMENT, 2025-09-25 · READ THE OFFICIAL REPORT

  28. Two documents have been produced in this session of Parliament that represented opportunities to provide such leadership, but those opportunities were missed. The first document was “Purpose and Principles for Post-School Education, Research and Skills”. I contributed to the development of that document and was excited about the opportunity that it represented, but it was a missed opportunity, because it did not provide the direction that colleges, in particular, were crying out for. Upstream of that purpose and principles document, there was a far more fundamental issue with the national strategy for economic transformation.

    MEETING OF THE PARLIAMENT, 2025-09-25 · READ THE OFFICIAL REPORT

  29. For example, I think that some of the costs in relation to redundancy payments, pensions and so on have been overestimated, because they are based on pessimistic assumptions about staff not TUPE-ing over from one organisation to the other. The bill presents other opportunities, which I will probably not now have time to address in my opening speech, but which I will cover in my closing speech. I am thinking in particular of the role of the Scottish Funding Council and how that relates to the situation that we have seen at the University of Dundee. The bill will be our last opportunity in this session of Parliament to consider whether legislative change is required in relation to how we oversee higher and further education institutions and whether the SFC has the means to do so. I want to return to my point about Government leadership.

    MEETING OF THE PARLIAMENT, 2025-09-25 · READ THE OFFICIAL REPORT

  30. In paragraph 4.17, he said: “there must be a clear articulation of the areas that are a national priority. This goes beyond signalling ‘economic transformation’ or ‘net zero’ into a specific articulation, aligned to strategic policy intentions, of the sectors and occupations that will be critical to their delivery and their workforce needs.” In essence, he was saying that the Scottish Government was not providing a clear direction to the public bodies involved or for the economy at large. John Mason: Ross Greer is arguing that SDS and the SFC are two arms of Government and that there needs to be a change of culture. Is it worth spending £22-odd million simply on changing that? Ross Greer: That is a fair question. I am not entirely convinced that it would cost as much as £22 million.

    MEETING OF THE PARLIAMENT, 2025-09-25 · READ THE OFFICIAL REPORT

  31. As much as I have a lot to say about the functions and the performance of SDS and the Funding Council, Audit Scotland and James Withers made it clear in their reports that the core issue is a lack of clear leadership from the Scottish Government. If the Scottish Government was instructing those bodies to engage far more effectively with—to use Mr Johnson’s example—industry, they would do so. SDS and the SFC are not independent organisations. They are arms of the Scottish Government. They are public bodies. However, in both cases—more so in the case of Skills Development Scotland—they have operated far more independently than is appropriate if they are to be part of a system that is well aligned across the board. I will quote from the James Withers report.

    MEETING OF THE PARLIAMENT, 2025-09-25 · READ THE OFFICIAL REPORT

  32. That is difficult to do—legislating on culture is not always a good idea—but we have just been through a not dissimilar process with the Education (Scotland) Bill, to address issues of culture and relationships at the Scottish Qualifications Authority. Daniel Johnson: I am grateful to Ross Greer for giving way so early in his contribution. He is right on the point about culture, but would he acknowledge the points that Audit Scotland made in its 2022 report about the capacity of the Scottish Funding Council and its lack of focus on industry engagement? Is that a concern for him as he looks at the bill? Ross Greer: I am grateful for Mr Johnson’s intervention, because it leads me exactly to where I am about to go.

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  33. I make it clear from the outset that the Scottish Greens will support the bill at stage 1, primarily because we are excited about the opportunities that stage 2 presents. Colleagues will appreciate that I love a stage 2 process—I enjoy testing the patience of conveners as I try to maximise the scope of a bill and the potential for it to be amended. However, I want to repeat the reasons for the bill’s introduction. There is misalignment and—this has not been touched on yet in the debate—a dysfunctional relationship between the Scottish Funding Council and Skills Development Scotland. In part, the bill represents an attempt to address a problem of culture through the statute books.

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  34. As colleagues have done, I congratulate the minister on his appointment. Ben Macpherson and I worked together on the Education, Children and Young People Committee not too long ago, and I am looking forward to working with him in his new position. As colleagues have also done, I thank Graeme Dey. I am sure that he was looking forward to the challenge of getting the Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill through the Parliament, but he has escaped that and now has the far more interesting challenge of figuring out how the Parliament can get through 29 bills in the 66 sitting days that are left before dissolution. I do not envy him in that regard.

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  35. Debts can be held and chased for up to 20 years here, as opposed to for up to six years in England. The same councils that provide free school meals to children in poverty at lunchtime are sending sheriff officers to their doors after school. Does the First Minister think that it is right to chase desperate people for debts that, often, they cannot pay, for four times as long in Scotland as would happen in England, or does he agree that it is time to change the law and wipe out those toxic, unpayable debts?

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  36. Yesterday, the First Minister said that it is our “moral imperative” to eradicate child poverty. He is right to highlight the fact that Scotland is the only part of the United Kingdom where child poverty is decreasing. However, one in every five children here still lives in poverty—in one of the richest countries in the history of the planet. They arrive at school hungry and will sit in freezing homes this winter because their parents cannot afford their increased bills. They need the Scottish Government to do more. Many of those children’s families are in huge amounts of debt, which often includes council tax debt. A few weeks ago, I shared with the First Minister the fact that the rules on council tax debt in Scotland are nearly four times harsher than those in England.

    MEETING OF THE PARLIAMENT, 2025-09-25 · READ THE OFFICIAL REPORT

  37. In addition to the material to be considered as part of the fit and proper person test for landlord registration, my amendment 74, which we debated in an earlier group, allows for additional powers to be conferred on the First-tier Tribunal to order a landlord to pay “a financial penalty, or ... compensation” should they fail to comply with the restrictions in a rent control area.

    MEETING OF THE PARLIAMENT, 2025-09-24 · READ THE OFFICIAL REPORT

  38. Section 85 of the Antisocial Behaviour etc (Scotland) Act 2004 already requires a local authority to “have regard to any” material that it considers is relevant to the question whether a person is fit and proper, including any such material that is mentioned in the additional examples that would be inserted by the amendment. Picking out particular contraventions of landlord and tenant law would risk weakening the generality of the existing provision, without adding any protections. The Cabinet Secretary for Social Justice noted that point when the matter was raised at stage 2.

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  39. Importantly, amendment 229 would not require local authorities to automatically strike off landlords for the reasons that are outlined in the amendment; it would require that they consider those things only when assessing whether the landlord is fit and proper. If there were to be mitigating circumstances for why the rent was inappropriately increased, those could be explained by the landlord and considered. Therefore, there are safeguards in place in the amendment. Amendment 229 would put some important teeth into the bill. It would make it clear that rent controls should be respected and ensure there are appropriately penalties if they are not. I move amendment 229. 19:30 Màiri McAllan: Maggie Chapman’s amendment 229, although clearly well intentioned, is unnecessary.

    MEETING OF THE PARLIAMENT, 2025-09-24 · READ THE OFFICIAL REPORT

  40. Amendment 226 disagreed to. Amendment 227 not moved. After section 37 Amendment 228 not moved. The Deputy Presiding Officer: Group 15 is on landlord registration. Amendment 229, in the name of Maggie Chapman, is the only amendment in the group. Maggie Chapman: Several times during the passage of this bill, I have talked about the need to ensure that there is proper incentive for rent controls to be respected by landlords. Without that, rent controls will be weakened, just like rent pressure zones were—that is why we have argued for higher fines. Amendment 229 would ensure that any landlord who has charged an illegal rent increase or wrongfully ended a tenancy would have that taken into account by the local authority when deciding whether they are a fit and proper person to be renting out property in their area.

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  41. For Baker, Claire (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Lab) Balfour, Jeremy (Lothian) (Ind) Bibby, Neil (West Scotland) (Lab) Boyack, Sarah (Lothian) (Lab) Burgess, Ariane (Highlands and Islands) (Green) Burnett, Alexander (Aberdeenshire West) (Con) Carson, Finlay (Galloway and West Dumfries) (Con) Chapman, Maggie (North East Scotland) (Green) Choudhury, Foysol (Lothian) (Lab) Clark, Katy (West Scotland) (Lab) Dowey, Sharon (South Scotland) (Con) Duncan-Glancy, Pam (Glasgow) (Lab) Eagle, Tim (Highlands and Islands) (Con) Fraser, Murdo (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Gallacher, Meghan (Central Scotland) (Con) Golden, Maurice (North East Scotland) (Con) Grant, Rhoda (Highlands and Islands) (Lab) Greer, Ross (West Scotland) (Green) Griffin, Mark (Central Scotland) (Lab) Hamilton, Rachael (Ettrick, Roxburgh and Berwickshire) (Con) Harvie, Patrick (Glasgow) (Green) Hoy, Craig (South Scotland) (Con) Johnson, Daniel (Edinburgh Southern) (Lab) Halcro Johnston, Jamie (Highlands and Islands) (Con) Kerr, Liam (North East Scotland) (Con) Kerr, Stephen (Central Scotland) (Con) Lennon, Monica (Central Scotland) (Lab) Lumsden, Douglas (North East Scotland) (Con) Mackay, Gillian (Central Scotland) (Green) [Proxy vote cast by Ross Greer] McCall, Roz (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Mochan, Carol (South Scotland) (Lab) Mountain, Edward (Highlands and Islands) (Con) Mundell, Oliver (Dumfriesshire) (Con) Ross, Douglas (Highlands and Islands) (Con) Rowley, Alex (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Lab) Ruskell, Mark (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Green) Russell, Davy (Hamilton, Larkhall and Stonehouse) (Lab) Simpson, Graham (Central Scotland) (Reform) Slater, Lorna (Lothian) (Green) Stewart, Alexander (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Sweeney, Paul (Glasgow) (Lab) Villalba, Mercedes (North East Scotland) (Lab) Webber, Sue (Lothian) (Con) Wells, Annie (Glasgow) (Con) White, Tess (North East Scotland) (Con) Whitfield, Martin (South Scotland) (Lab) Whittle, Brian (South Scotland) (Con) Against Adam, George (Paisley) (SNP) Adam, Karen (Banffshire and Buchan Coast) (SNP) Adamson, Clare (Motherwell and Wishaw) (SNP) Allan, Alasdair (Na h-Eileanan an Iar) (SNP) Arthur, Tom (Renfrewshire South) (SNP) Beattie, Colin (Midlothian North and Musselburgh) (SNP) Brown, Keith (Clackmannanshire and Dunblane) (SNP) Brown, Siobhian (Ayr) (SNP) Callaghan, Stephanie (Uddingston and Bellshill) (SNP) Cole-Hamilton, Alex (Edinburgh Western) (LD) Constance, Angela (Almond Valley) (SNP) Dey, Graeme (Angus South) (SNP) Don-Innes, Natalie (Renfrewshire North and West) (SNP) Doris, Bob (Glasgow Maryhill and Springburn) (SNP) Dornan, James (Glasgow Cathcart) (SNP) Dunbar, Jackie (Aberdeen Donside) (SNP) Fairlie, Jim (Perthshire South and Kinross-shire) (SNP) Forbes, Kate (Skye, Lochaber and Badenoch) (SNP) Gilruth, Jenny (Mid Fife and Glenrothes) (SNP) Gougeon, Mairi (Angus North and Mearns) (SNP) Grahame, Christine (Midlothian South, Tweeddale and Lauderdale) (SNP) Gray, Neil (Airdrie and Shotts) (SNP) Greene, Jamie (West Scotland) (LD) Harper, Emma (South Scotland) (SNP) Haughey, Clare (Rutherglen) (SNP) Hepburn, Jamie (Cumbernauld and Kilsyth) (SNP) Hyslop, Fiona (Linlithgow) (SNP) Kidd, Bill (Glasgow Anniesland) (SNP) Lochhead, Richard (Moray) (SNP) MacDonald, Gordon (Edinburgh Pentlands) (SNP) MacGregor, Fulton (Coatbridge and Chryston) (SNP) Mackay, Rona (Strathkelvin and Bearsden) (SNP) Macpherson, Ben (Edinburgh Northern and Leith) (SNP) Maguire, Ruth (Cunninghame South) (SNP) Mason, John (Glasgow Shettleston) (Ind) McAllan, Màiri (Clydesdale) (SNP) McArthur, Liam (Orkney Islands) (LD) McKee, Ivan (Glasgow Provan) (SNP) McLennan, Paul (East Lothian) (SNP) McMillan, Stuart (Greenock and Inverclyde) (SNP) McNair, Marie (Clydebank and Milngavie) (SNP) Minto, Jenni (Argyll and Bute) (SNP) Nicoll, Audrey (Aberdeen South and North Kincardine) (SNP) Rennie, Willie (North East Fife) (LD) Robertson, Angus (Edinburgh Central) (SNP) Robison, Shona (Dundee City East) (SNP) Roddick, Emma (Highlands and Islands) (SNP) Somerville, Shirley-Anne (Dunfermline) (SNP) Stevenson, Collette (East Kilbride) (SNP) [Proxy vote cast by Fulton MacGregor] Stewart, Kaukab (Glasgow Kelvin) (SNP) Stewart, Kevin (Aberdeen Central) (SNP) Sturgeon, Nicola (Glasgow Southside) (SNP) Swinney, John (Perthshire North) (SNP) Todd, Maree (Caithness, Sutherland and Ross) (SNP) Torrance, David (Kirkcaldy) (SNP) Tweed, Evelyn (Stirling) (SNP) Whitham, Elena (Carrick, Cumnock and Doon Valley) (SNP) Wishart, Beatrice (Shetland Islands) (LD) [Proxy vote cast by Willie Rennie] Yousaf, Humza (Glasgow Pollok) (SNP) The Deputy Presiding Officer: The result of the division is: For 47, Against 59, Abstentions 0.

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  42. Amendment 224 disagreed to. Amendment 225 not moved. Amendment 226 moved—[Edward Mountain]. The Deputy Presiding Officer: The question is, that amendment 226 be agreed to. Are we agreed? Members: No. The Deputy Presiding Officer: There will be a division.

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  43. For Balfour, Jeremy (Lothian) (Ind) Burnett, Alexander (Aberdeenshire West) (Con) Carson, Finlay (Galloway and West Dumfries) (Con) Dowey, Sharon (South Scotland) (Con) Eagle, Tim (Highlands and Islands) (Con) Fraser, Murdo (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Gallacher, Meghan (Central Scotland) (Con) Golden, Maurice (North East Scotland) (Con) Hamilton, Rachael (Ettrick, Roxburgh and Berwickshire) (Con) Hoy, Craig (South Scotland) (Con) Halcro Johnston, Jamie (Highlands and Islands) (Con) Kerr, Liam (North East Scotland) (Con) Kerr, Stephen (Central Scotland) (Con) Lumsden, Douglas (North East Scotland) (Con) McCall, Roz (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Mountain, Edward (Highlands and Islands) (Con) Mundell, Oliver (Dumfriesshire) (Con) Ross, Douglas (Highlands and Islands) (Con) Stewart, Alexander (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Webber, Sue (Lothian) (Con) Wells, Annie (Glasgow) (Con) White, Tess (North East Scotland) (Con) Whittle, Brian (South Scotland) (Con) Against Adam, George (Paisley) (SNP) Adam, Karen (Banffshire and Buchan Coast) (SNP) Adamson, Clare (Motherwell and Wishaw) (SNP) Allan, Alasdair (Na h-Eileanan an Iar) (SNP) Arthur, Tom (Renfrewshire South) (SNP) Beattie, Colin (Midlothian North and Musselburgh) (SNP) Brown, Keith (Clackmannanshire and Dunblane) (SNP) Brown, Siobhian (Ayr) (SNP) Burgess, Ariane (Highlands and Islands) (Green) Callaghan, Stephanie (Uddingston and Bellshill) (SNP) Chapman, Maggie (North East Scotland) (Green) Cole-Hamilton, Alex (Edinburgh Western) (LD) Constance, Angela (Almond Valley) (SNP) Dey, Graeme (Angus South) (SNP) Don-Innes, Natalie (Renfrewshire North and West) (SNP) Doris, Bob (Glasgow Maryhill and Springburn) (SNP) Dornan, James (Glasgow Cathcart) (SNP) Dunbar, Jackie (Aberdeen Donside) (SNP) Fairlie, Jim (Perthshire South and Kinross-shire) (SNP) Forbes, Kate (Skye, Lochaber and Badenoch) (SNP) Gilruth, Jenny (Mid Fife and Glenrothes) (SNP) Gougeon, Mairi (Angus North and Mearns) (SNP) Grahame, Christine (Midlothian South, Tweeddale and Lauderdale) (SNP) Gray, Neil (Airdrie and Shotts) (SNP) Greene, Jamie (West Scotland) (LD) Greer, Ross (West Scotland) (Green) Harper, Emma (South Scotland) (SNP) Harvie, Patrick (Glasgow) (Green) Haughey, Clare (Rutherglen) (SNP) Hepburn, Jamie (Cumbernauld and Kilsyth) (SNP) Hyslop, Fiona (Linlithgow) (SNP) Kidd, Bill (Glasgow Anniesland) (SNP) Lochhead, Richard (Moray) (SNP) MacDonald, Gordon (Edinburgh Pentlands) (SNP) MacGregor, Fulton (Coatbridge and Chryston) (SNP) Mackay, Gillian (Central Scotland) (Green) [Proxy vote cast by Ross Greer] Mackay, Rona (Strathkelvin and Bearsden) (SNP) Macpherson, Ben (Edinburgh Northern and Leith) (SNP) Maguire, Ruth (Cunninghame South) (SNP) Mason, John (Glasgow Shettleston) (Ind) McAllan, Màiri (Clydesdale) (SNP) McArthur, Liam (Orkney Islands) (LD) McKee, Ivan (Glasgow Provan) (SNP) McLennan, Paul (East Lothian) (SNP) McMillan, Stuart (Greenock and Inverclyde) (SNP) McNair, Marie (Clydebank and Milngavie) (SNP) Minto, Jenni (Argyll and Bute) (SNP) Nicoll, Audrey (Aberdeen South and North Kincardine) (SNP) Rennie, Willie (North East Fife) (LD) Robertson, Angus (Edinburgh Central) (SNP) Robison, Shona (Dundee City East) (SNP) Roddick, Emma (Highlands and Islands) (SNP) Ruskell, Mark (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Green) Simpson, Graham (Central Scotland) (Reform) Slater, Lorna (Lothian) (Green) Somerville, Shirley-Anne (Dunfermline) (SNP) Stevenson, Collette (East Kilbride) (SNP) [Proxy vote cast by Fulton MacGregor] Stewart, Kaukab (Glasgow Kelvin) (SNP) Stewart, Kevin (Aberdeen Central) (SNP) Sturgeon, Nicola (Glasgow Southside) (SNP) Swinney, John (Perthshire North) (SNP) Todd, Maree (Caithness, Sutherland and Ross) (SNP) Torrance, David (Kirkcaldy) (SNP) Tweed, Evelyn (Stirling) (SNP) Whitham, Elena (Carrick, Cumnock and Doon Valley) (SNP) Wishart, Beatrice (Shetland Islands) (LD) [Proxy vote cast by Willie Rennie] Yousaf, Humza (Glasgow Pollok) (SNP) Abstentions Baker, Claire (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Lab) Bibby, Neil (West Scotland) (Lab) Boyack, Sarah (Lothian) (Lab) Choudhury, Foysol (Lothian) (Lab) Clark, Katy (West Scotland) (Lab) Duncan-Glancy, Pam (Glasgow) (Lab) Grant, Rhoda (Highlands and Islands) (Lab) Griffin, Mark (Central Scotland) (Lab) Johnson, Daniel (Edinburgh Southern) (Lab) Lennon, Monica (Central Scotland) (Lab) Mochan, Carol (South Scotland) (Lab) Rowley, Alex (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Lab) Russell, Davy (Hamilton, Larkhall and Stonehouse) (Lab) Sweeney, Paul (Glasgow) (Lab) Villalba, Mercedes (North East Scotland) (Lab) Whitfield, Martin (South Scotland) (Lab) The Deputy Presiding Officer: The result of the division is: For 23, Against 67, Abstentions 16.

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  44. Amendment 223 disagreed to. Amendment 224 moved—[Edward Mountain]. The Deputy Presiding Officer: The question is, that amendment 224 be agreed to. Are we agreed? Members: No. The Deputy Presiding Officer: There will be a division.

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  45. For Balfour, Jeremy (Lothian) (Ind) Burnett, Alexander (Aberdeenshire West) (Con) Dowey, Sharon (South Scotland) (Con) Eagle, Tim (Highlands and Islands) (Con) Fraser, Murdo (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Gallacher, Meghan (Central Scotland) (Con) Golden, Maurice (North East Scotland) (Con) Hamilton, Rachael (Ettrick, Roxburgh and Berwickshire) (Con) Hoy, Craig (South Scotland) (Con) Halcro Johnston, Jamie (Highlands and Islands) (Con) Kerr, Liam (North East Scotland) (Con) Kerr, Stephen (Central Scotland) (Con) Lumsden, Douglas (North East Scotland) (Con) McCall, Roz (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Mountain, Edward (Highlands and Islands) (Con) Mundell, Oliver (Dumfriesshire) (Con) Ross, Douglas (Highlands and Islands) (Con) Stewart, Alexander (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Webber, Sue (Lothian) (Con) Wells, Annie (Glasgow) (Con) White, Tess (North East Scotland) (Con) Whittle, Brian (South Scotland) (Con) Against Adam, George (Paisley) (SNP) Adam, Karen (Banffshire and Buchan Coast) (SNP) Adamson, Clare (Motherwell and Wishaw) (SNP) Allan, Alasdair (Na h-Eileanan an Iar) (SNP) Arthur, Tom (Renfrewshire South) (SNP) Beattie, Colin (Midlothian North and Musselburgh) (SNP) Brown, Keith (Clackmannanshire and Dunblane) (SNP) Brown, Siobhian (Ayr) (SNP) Burgess, Ariane (Highlands and Islands) (Green) Callaghan, Stephanie (Uddingston and Bellshill) (SNP) Carson, Finlay (Galloway and West Dumfries) (Con) Chapman, Maggie (North East Scotland) (Green) Cole-Hamilton, Alex (Edinburgh Western) (LD) Constance, Angela (Almond Valley) (SNP) Dey, Graeme (Angus South) (SNP) Don-Innes, Natalie (Renfrewshire North and West) (SNP) Doris, Bob (Glasgow Maryhill and Springburn) (SNP) Dornan, James (Glasgow Cathcart) (SNP) Dunbar, Jackie (Aberdeen Donside) (SNP) Fairlie, Jim (Perthshire South and Kinross-shire) (SNP) Forbes, Kate (Skye, Lochaber and Badenoch) (SNP) Gilruth, Jenny (Mid Fife and Glenrothes) (SNP) Gougeon, Mairi (Angus North and Mearns) (SNP) Grahame, Christine (Midlothian South, Tweeddale and Lauderdale) (SNP) Gray, Neil (Airdrie and Shotts) (SNP) Greene, Jamie (West Scotland) (LD) Greer, Ross (West Scotland) (Green) Harper, Emma (South Scotland) (SNP) Harvie, Patrick (Glasgow) (Green) Haughey, Clare (Rutherglen) (SNP) Hepburn, Jamie (Cumbernauld and Kilsyth) (SNP) Hyslop, Fiona (Linlithgow) (SNP) Kidd, Bill (Glasgow Anniesland) (SNP) Lochhead, Richard (Moray) (SNP) MacDonald, Gordon (Edinburgh Pentlands) (SNP) MacGregor, Fulton (Coatbridge and Chryston) (SNP) Mackay, Gillian (Central Scotland) (Green) [Proxy vote cast by Ross Greer] Mackay, Rona (Strathkelvin and Bearsden) (SNP) Macpherson, Ben (Edinburgh Northern and Leith) (SNP) Maguire, Ruth (Cunninghame South) (SNP) Mason, John (Glasgow Shettleston) (Ind) McAllan, Màiri (Clydesdale) (SNP) McArthur, Liam (Orkney Islands) (LD) McKee, Ivan (Glasgow Provan) (SNP) McLennan, Paul (East Lothian) (SNP) McMillan, Stuart (Greenock and Inverclyde) (SNP) McNair, Marie (Clydebank and Milngavie) (SNP) Minto, Jenni (Argyll and Bute) (SNP) Nicoll, Audrey (Aberdeen South and North Kincardine) (SNP) Rennie, Willie (North East Fife) (LD) Robertson, Angus (Edinburgh Central) (SNP) Robison, Shona (Dundee City East) (SNP) Roddick, Emma (Highlands and Islands) (SNP) Ruskell, Mark (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Green) Simpson, Graham (Central Scotland) (Reform) Slater, Lorna (Lothian) (Green) Somerville, Shirley-Anne (Dunfermline) (SNP) Stevenson, Collette (East Kilbride) (SNP) [Proxy vote cast by Fulton MacGregor] Stewart, Kaukab (Glasgow Kelvin) (SNP) Stewart, Kevin (Aberdeen Central) (SNP) Sturgeon, Nicola (Glasgow Southside) (SNP) Swinney, John (Perthshire North) (SNP) Todd, Maree (Caithness, Sutherland and Ross) (SNP) Torrance, David (Kirkcaldy) (SNP) Tweed, Evelyn (Stirling) (SNP) Whitham, Elena (Carrick, Cumnock and Doon Valley) (SNP) Wishart, Beatrice (Shetland Islands) (LD) [Proxy vote cast by Willie Rennie] Yousaf, Humza (Glasgow Pollok) (SNP) Abstentions Baker, Claire (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Lab) Bibby, Neil (West Scotland) (Lab) Boyack, Sarah (Lothian) (Lab) Choudhury, Foysol (Lothian) (Lab) Clark, Katy (West Scotland) (Lab) Duncan-Glancy, Pam (Glasgow) (Lab) Grant, Rhoda (Highlands and Islands) (Lab) Griffin, Mark (Central Scotland) (Lab) Johnson, Daniel (Edinburgh Southern) (Lab) Lennon, Monica (Central Scotland) (Lab) Mochan, Carol (South Scotland) (Lab) Rowley, Alex (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Lab) Russell, Davy (Hamilton, Larkhall and Stonehouse) (Lab) Sweeney, Paul (Glasgow) (Lab) Villalba, Mercedes (North East Scotland) (Lab) Whitfield, Martin (South Scotland) (Lab) The Deputy Presiding Officer: The result of the division is: For 22, Against 68, Abstentions 16.

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  46. Amendment 292 disagreed to. Section 31—Use of unclaimed tenancy deposits Amendment 223 moved—[Edward Mountain]. The Deputy Presiding Officer: The question is, that amendment 223 be agreed to. Are we agreed? Members: No. The Deputy Presiding Officer: There will be a division.

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  47. For Balfour, Jeremy (Lothian) (Ind) Burgess, Ariane (Highlands and Islands) (Green) Chapman, Maggie (North East Scotland) (Green) Greer, Ross (West Scotland) (Green) Harvie, Patrick (Glasgow) (Green) Mackay, Gillian (Central Scotland) (Green) [Proxy vote cast by Ross Greer] Ruskell, Mark (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Green) Simpson, Graham (Central Scotland) (Reform) Slater, Lorna (Lothian) (Green) Against Adam, George (Paisley) (SNP) Adam, Karen (Banffshire and Buchan Coast) (SNP) Adamson, Clare (Motherwell and Wishaw) (SNP) Allan, Alasdair (Na h-Eileanan an Iar) (SNP) Arthur, Tom (Renfrewshire South) (SNP) Baker, Claire (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Lab) Beattie, Colin (Midlothian North and Musselburgh) (SNP) Bibby, Neil (West Scotland) (Lab) Boyack, Sarah (Lothian) (Lab) Brown, Keith (Clackmannanshire and Dunblane) (SNP) Brown, Siobhian (Ayr) (SNP) Burnett, Alexander (Aberdeenshire West) (Con) Callaghan, Stephanie (Uddingston and Bellshill) (SNP) Carson, Finlay (Galloway and West Dumfries) (Con) Choudhury, Foysol (Lothian) (Lab) Clark, Katy (West Scotland) (Lab) Cole-Hamilton, Alex (Edinburgh Western) (LD) Constance, Angela (Almond Valley) (SNP) Dey, Graeme (Angus South) (SNP) Don-Innes, Natalie (Renfrewshire North and West) (SNP) Doris, Bob (Glasgow Maryhill and Springburn) (SNP) Dornan, James (Glasgow Cathcart) (SNP) Dowey, Sharon (South Scotland) (Con) Dunbar, Jackie (Aberdeen Donside) (SNP) Duncan-Glancy, Pam (Glasgow) (Lab) Eagle, Tim (Highlands and Islands) (Con) Fairlie, Jim (Perthshire South and Kinross-shire) (SNP) Forbes, Kate (Skye, Lochaber and Badenoch) (SNP) Fraser, Murdo (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Gallacher, Meghan (Central Scotland) (Con) Gilruth, Jenny (Mid Fife and Glenrothes) (SNP) Golden, Maurice (North East Scotland) (Con) Gougeon, Mairi (Angus North and Mearns) (SNP) Grahame, Christine (Midlothian South, Tweeddale and Lauderdale) (SNP) Grant, Rhoda (Highlands and Islands) (Lab) Gray, Neil (Airdrie and Shotts) (SNP) Greene, Jamie (West Scotland) (LD) Griffin, Mark (Central Scotland) (Lab) Hamilton, Rachael (Ettrick, Roxburgh and Berwickshire) (Con) Harper, Emma (South Scotland) (SNP) Haughey, Clare (Rutherglen) (SNP) Hepburn, Jamie (Cumbernauld and Kilsyth) (SNP) Hoy, Craig (South Scotland) (Con) Hyslop, Fiona (Linlithgow) (SNP) Johnson, Daniel (Edinburgh Southern) (Lab) Halcro Johnston, Jamie (Highlands and Islands) (Con) Kerr, Liam (North East Scotland) (Con) Kerr, Stephen (Central Scotland) (Con) Kidd, Bill (Glasgow Anniesland) (SNP) Lennon, Monica (Central Scotland) (Lab) Lochhead, Richard (Moray) (SNP) Lumsden, Douglas (North East Scotland) (Con) MacDonald, Gordon (Edinburgh Pentlands) (SNP) MacGregor, Fulton (Coatbridge and Chryston) (SNP) Mackay, Rona (Strathkelvin and Bearsden) (SNP) Macpherson, Ben (Edinburgh Northern and Leith) (SNP) Maguire, Ruth (Cunninghame South) (SNP) Mason, John (Glasgow Shettleston) (Ind) McAllan, Màiri (Clydesdale) (SNP) McArthur, Liam (Orkney Islands) (LD) McCall, Roz (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) McKee, Ivan (Glasgow Provan) (SNP) McLennan, Paul (East Lothian) (SNP) McMillan, Stuart (Greenock and Inverclyde) (SNP) McNair, Marie (Clydebank and Milngavie) (SNP) Minto, Jenni (Argyll and Bute) (SNP) Mochan, Carol (South Scotland) (Lab) Mundell, Oliver (Dumfriesshire) (Con) Nicoll, Audrey (Aberdeen South and North Kincardine) (SNP) Rennie, Willie (North East Fife) (LD) Robertson, Angus (Edinburgh Central) (SNP) Robison, Shona (Dundee City East) (SNP) Roddick, Emma (Highlands and Islands) (SNP) Ross, Douglas (Highlands and Islands) (Con) Rowley, Alex (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Lab) Russell, Davy (Hamilton, Larkhall and Stonehouse) (Lab) Somerville, Shirley-Anne (Dunfermline) (SNP) Stevenson, Collette (East Kilbride) (SNP) [Proxy vote cast by Fulton MacGregor] Stewart, Alexander (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Stewart, Kaukab (Glasgow Kelvin) (SNP) Stewart, Kevin (Aberdeen Central) (SNP) Sturgeon, Nicola (Glasgow Southside) (SNP) Sweeney, Paul (Glasgow) (Lab) Swinney, John (Perthshire North) (SNP) Todd, Maree (Caithness, Sutherland and Ross) (SNP) Torrance, David (Kirkcaldy) (SNP) Tweed, Evelyn (Stirling) (SNP) Villalba, Mercedes (North East Scotland) (Lab) Webber, Sue (Lothian) (Con) Wells, Annie (Glasgow) (Con) White, Tess (North East Scotland) (Con) Whitfield, Martin (South Scotland) (Lab) Whitham, Elena (Carrick, Cumnock and Doon Valley) (SNP) Whittle, Brian (South Scotland) (Con) Wishart, Beatrice (Shetland Islands) (LD) [Proxy vote cast by Willie Rennie] Yousaf, Humza (Glasgow Pollok) (SNP) The Deputy Presiding Officer: The result of the division is: For 9, Against 96, Abstentions 0.

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  48. Amendment 222 disagreed to. Amendment 291 not moved. Amendment 292 moved—[Ross Greer]. The Deputy Presiding Officer: The question is, that amendment 292 be agreed to. Are we agreed? Members: No. The Deputy Presiding Officer: There will be a division.

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  49. For Burgess, Ariane (Highlands and Islands) (Green) Chapman, Maggie (North East Scotland) (Green) Greer, Ross (West Scotland) (Green) Harvie, Patrick (Glasgow) (Green) Mackay, Gillian (Central Scotland) (Green) [Proxy vote cast by Ross Greer] Ruskell, Mark (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Green) Slater, Lorna (Lothian) (Green) Against Adam, George (Paisley) (SNP) Adam, Karen (Banffshire and Buchan Coast) (SNP) Adamson, Clare (Motherwell and Wishaw) (SNP) Allan, Alasdair (Na h-Eileanan an Iar) (SNP) Arthur, Tom (Renfrewshire South) (SNP) Baker, Claire (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Lab) Balfour, Jeremy (Lothian) (Ind) Beattie, Colin (Midlothian North and Musselburgh) (SNP) Bibby, Neil (West Scotland) (Lab) Boyack, Sarah (Lothian) (Lab) Brown, Keith (Clackmannanshire and Dunblane) (SNP) Brown, Siobhian (Ayr) (SNP) Burnett, Alexander (Aberdeenshire West) (Con) Callaghan, Stephanie (Uddingston and Bellshill) (SNP) Carson, Finlay (Galloway and West Dumfries) (Con) Choudhury, Foysol (Lothian) (Lab) Clark, Katy (West Scotland) (Lab) Cole-Hamilton, Alex (Edinburgh Western) (LD) Constance, Angela (Almond Valley) (SNP) Dey, Graeme (Angus South) (SNP) Don-Innes, Natalie (Renfrewshire North and West) (SNP) Doris, Bob (Glasgow Maryhill and Springburn) (SNP) Dornan, James (Glasgow Cathcart) (SNP) Dowey, Sharon (South Scotland) (Con) Dunbar, Jackie (Aberdeen Donside) (SNP) Duncan-Glancy, Pam (Glasgow) (Lab) Eagle, Tim (Highlands and Islands) (Con) Fairlie, Jim (Perthshire South and Kinross-shire) (SNP) Forbes, Kate (Skye, Lochaber and Badenoch) (SNP) Fraser, Murdo (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Gallacher, Meghan (Central Scotland) (Con) Gilruth, Jenny (Mid Fife and Glenrothes) (SNP) Golden, Maurice (North East Scotland) (Con) Gougeon, Mairi (Angus North and Mearns) (SNP) Grahame, Christine (Midlothian South, Tweeddale and Lauderdale) (SNP) Grant, Rhoda (Highlands and Islands) (Lab) Gray, Neil (Airdrie and Shotts) (SNP) Greene, Jamie (West Scotland) (LD) Griffin, Mark (Central Scotland) (Lab) Hamilton, Rachael (Ettrick, Roxburgh and Berwickshire) (Con) Harper, Emma (South Scotland) (SNP) Haughey, Clare (Rutherglen) (SNP) Hepburn, Jamie (Cumbernauld and Kilsyth) (SNP) Hoy, Craig (South Scotland) (Con) Hyslop, Fiona (Linlithgow) (SNP) Johnson, Daniel (Edinburgh Southern) (Lab) Halcro Johnston, Jamie (Highlands and Islands) (Con) Kerr, Liam (North East Scotland) (Con) Kerr, Stephen (Central Scotland) (Con) Kidd, Bill (Glasgow Anniesland) (SNP) Lennon, Monica (Central Scotland) (Lab) Lochhead, Richard (Moray) (SNP) Lumsden, Douglas (North East Scotland) (Con) MacDonald, Gordon (Edinburgh Pentlands) (SNP) MacGregor, Fulton (Coatbridge and Chryston) (SNP) Mackay, Rona (Strathkelvin and Bearsden) (SNP) Macpherson, Ben (Edinburgh Northern and Leith) (SNP) Maguire, Ruth (Cunninghame South) (SNP) Mason, John (Glasgow Shettleston) (Ind) McAllan, Màiri (Clydesdale) (SNP) McArthur, Liam (Orkney Islands) (LD) McCall, Roz (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) McKee, Ivan (Glasgow Provan) (SNP) McLennan, Paul (East Lothian) (SNP) McMillan, Stuart (Greenock and Inverclyde) (SNP) McNair, Marie (Clydebank and Milngavie) (SNP) Minto, Jenni (Argyll and Bute) (SNP) Mochan, Carol (South Scotland) (Lab) Mountain, Edward (Highlands and Islands) (Con) Mundell, Oliver (Dumfriesshire) (Con) Nicoll, Audrey (Aberdeen South and North Kincardine) (SNP) Rennie, Willie (North East Fife) (LD) Robertson, Angus (Edinburgh Central) (SNP) Robison, Shona (Dundee City East) (SNP) Roddick, Emma (Highlands and Islands) (SNP) Ross, Douglas (Highlands and Islands) (Con) Rowley, Alex (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Lab) Russell, Davy (Hamilton, Larkhall and Stonehouse) (Lab) Simpson, Graham (Central Scotland) (Reform) Somerville, Shirley-Anne (Dunfermline) (SNP) Stevenson, Collette (East Kilbride) (SNP) [Proxy vote cast by Fulton MacGregor] Stewart, Alexander (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Stewart, Kaukab (Glasgow Kelvin) (SNP) Stewart, Kevin (Aberdeen Central) (SNP) Sturgeon, Nicola (Glasgow Southside) (SNP) Sweeney, Paul (Glasgow) (Lab) Swinney, John (Perthshire North) (SNP) Todd, Maree (Caithness, Sutherland and Ross) (SNP) Torrance, David (Kirkcaldy) (SNP) Tweed, Evelyn (Stirling) (SNP) Villalba, Mercedes (North East Scotland) (Lab) Webber, Sue (Lothian) (Con) Wells, Annie (Glasgow) (Con) White, Tess (North East Scotland) (Con) Whitfield, Martin (South Scotland) (Lab) Whitham, Elena (Carrick, Cumnock and Doon Valley) (SNP) Whittle, Brian (South Scotland) (Con) Wishart, Beatrice (Shetland Islands) (LD) [Proxy vote cast by Willie Rennie] Yousaf, Humza (Glasgow Pollok) (SNP) The Deputy Presiding Officer: The result of the division is: For 7, Against 99, Abstentions 0.

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  50. Amendment 221 disagreed to. Amendment 290 not moved. Amendment 222 moved—[Maggie Chapman]. The Deputy Presiding Officer: The question is, that amendment 222 be agreed to. Are we agreed? Members: No. The Deputy Presiding Officer: There will be a division.

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