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AG Sulzberger

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“So, because it's an act of lawsuit, there's going to be some limitations on what I can say here. Look at the highest level, you know, this is about a core principle. The first thing, let me just say very directly, we're not anti-innovation. We're not anti-AI. We don't think the future can be held at arm's length. In fact, a big part of my career, my entire career as a leader of this organization has been about embracing innovation in service of an enduring mission, right? You know, an enduring journalistic mission. And I think we've been really well served by that. We have already won a Pulitzer Prize in part with thanks to the use of AI supported investigative reporting. We're using AI to make our products better. Every single story we produce is automatically.”
2025-05-05 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · NYT publisher AG Sulzberger on Trump, OpenAI, and the economy · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So I'm looking in the reporting ecosystem. So I'm Leicester on the cable, right? I basically watch no cable and I'm less drawn to the podcast ecosystem. Beyond that, I read really broadly the folks I read most closely after the times. The journal, the post, the FT, the Guardian, the Atlantic, the New Yorker, New York magazine, right? So that ecosystem. Know, and then a bunch of digital media and substacks and newsletters that find their way to me.”
2025-05-05 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · NYT publisher AG Sulzberger on Trump, OpenAI, and the economy · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“If you're like any of our reporters, you're waking up in the night, wondering if you missed something, wondering if someone might be misrepresenting something to you, thinking about the one more call that can give you a great job. Let's stipulate that I'm doing a great job.”
2025-05-05 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · NYT publisher AG Sulzberger on Trump, OpenAI, and the economy · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I'm less interested in the sort of talk ecosystem, you know, the pundit ecosystem. I was just about to say. But even here, right, you're a reporter. You're actually and you're out there still reporting. You're working the phones. You're talking to people. You're going to places. You're trying to understand issues.”
2025-05-05 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · NYT publisher AG Sulzberger on Trump, OpenAI, and the economy · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“But we'll also have stories where people just disagree on the framing. You know, what's striking is people often disagree on the framing in different ways, right? So the same headline that to you may feel too soft may someone else feel too pointed, right? You know, so we're often attacked, you know, and particularly on divisive issues, so issues like, you know, Israel Gaza or abortion or presidential politics, you know, we're often attacked about the same story from opposite sides. So, you know, to the degree to which I have a stock answer on any of this, it's that a great news source, the news source that is worthy of your trust. Challenging you and your beliefs on some regular basis. And if you find yourself just nodding along with your news source, I would recommend expanding your news”
2025-05-05 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · NYT publisher AG Sulzberger on Trump, OpenAI, and the economy · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“No, I mean, I think if my stock answers were more satisfying, I'd be hearing fewer the questions. We publish two hundred plus stories a day. We publish more words each week than Shakespeare published his entire career, and even Shakespeare had a couple of duds of the plays, right? We are A going to get some stuff wrong, right? We have a corrections page for a reason, you know, and we believe the corrections page should be a source of pride for an independent news organization, a serious news organization, because it's a sign of our commitment to own our mistakes and to learn from them and to not have them happen again.”
2025-05-05 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · NYT publisher AG Sulzberger on Trump, OpenAI, and the economy · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“When someone comes up to you wherever and says, I really hate the headline about X or Y, right? Whether it's about Israel may or may not have bombed a hospital in Gaza or you refer to Trump stating an untruth as opposed to Trump lies, sort of things on both, they're not really equivalent, but the point is you get that you hear that stuff all the time, especially on social media. Do you have a satisfying stock answer for that critique of framing or context as opposed to the actual news?”
2025-05-05 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · NYT publisher AG Sulzberger on Trump, OpenAI, and the economy · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I'm not sure that voters will use this information wisely. So we're going to keep it from them. And quite frankly, if we were to play that role, if other media organizations were to play that role, I think that that would leave the public with really good reason to distrust the press. So that's what I'm trying to say in that line that you asked me about.”
2025-05-05 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · NYT publisher AG Sulzberger on Trump, OpenAI, and the economy · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“They decided that they wanted to use it, right? And they used it to change candidates, and some say they changed the candidates too late and without a robust process. And had they listened to that information and taken that information more seriously on the front end, that maybe they'd be in a different spot. So why am I saying all that? I believe that we're talking so much in this era about the role of the press in supporting democracy. And the role of the press play is in supporting democracy is to arm citizens with information that they can use. And I think there's nothing more democratic, right? And that reflects a higher degree of commitment than us saying voters and citizens should have all the information that we can get. And I think there's nothing less democratic, right? You know, than us saying, you know,”
2025-05-05 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · NYT publisher AG Sulzberger on Trump, OpenAI, and the economy · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“But they felt that the information, having that information out there was dangerous. And it was dangerous because it could be misused, right? It could be misused to help Donald Trump, who they believed represented an existential threat to democracy, right? And so they did something that I think is dangerous in a democracy, which is they decided that they'd be better off with less information, right? That if they just didn't hear it at all. And I think time showed that they needed that information because when they finally got it, when they got in a way they couldn't ignore, which is Biden's performance in the debate.”
2025-05-05 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · NYT publisher AG Sulzberger on Trump, OpenAI, and the economy · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Is our reporting on Biden's age, right? So Democrats in the Biden administration were relentless in attacking the New York Times, relentless. And accused us of everything, of having ulterior motives for the coverage, of being swept along by a right-wing conspiracy theory, of being armchair doctors in a way that was inappropriate. It was a matter of public interest and it was one of the number one issues that voters, it was the number one issues that potential Biden voters were raising as a concern in casting their ballots for Biden, it ended up being a serious enough of a concern that he was pushed out of the race.”
2025-05-05 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · NYT publisher AG Sulzberger on Trump, OpenAI, and the economy · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So it doesn't mean my great-grandfather had a line. I believe in an open mind, but not so open that your brain falls out. Being independent doesn't mean some sort of weird both sides vision where you create false equivalencies so that you can never be accused of bias by one side or the other, right? You know, sometimes calling it completely straight will lead folks on one side to say, awfully hard on my person, right? And another example of that.”
2025-05-05 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · NYT publisher AG Sulzberger on Trump, OpenAI, and the economy · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“You know, for our insistence on calling out things that Trump and his team have said that aren't true, right? Such as that the 2020 election was stolen, right, for our willingness to report aggressively and to his conflicts of interests, his self-dealing actions he's taken that may be illegal or unconstitutional. I actually think if you look at everything that the New York Times has produced about Trump over the course of two campaigns and now two terms in office, I think it amounts to the single largest body of investigative and accountability journalism ever produced by a single news organization about a president or presidential candidate, right? And I don't think there's a close number too.”
2025-05-05 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · NYT publisher AG Sulzberger on Trump, OpenAI, and the economy · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“At the New York Times, we believe in the independent model of journalism, right? Like there's this phrase that we've had for over a century without fear or favor, right? Regardless of party sector interests involved. And we believe that that's central to our journalistic mission, to our ability to have impact and be trusted. I think it's really important to be clear on what we mean when we say to put our thumb on the scale, right? You know, the model of journalism I'm talking about, right, independent journalism, is about following the facts where they lead. And that doesn't mean you're not going to be called biased, right? You know, we are called biased every single day by Trump supporters”
2025-05-05 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · NYT publisher AG Sulzberger on Trump, OpenAI, and the economy · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“We ought to be louder about this. Let me say a couple things. First of all, I don't think that was the conventional. In a sort of a more independent model of journalism and a more outcome model of journalism.”
2025-05-05 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · NYT publisher AG Sulzberger on Trump, OpenAI, and the economy · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Maybe we should have put our thumb on the scale a little harder and been a little louder about the perils of a Trump administration. And we have a self-interest in this as a press organization that we ought to be louder about this.”
2025-05-05 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · NYT publisher AG Sulzberger on Trump, OpenAI, and the economy · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And you had a line about that in the op- ed. Are you sort of addressing this question about whether the Times are really any other papers should be sort of more actively in opposition to Trump, who's then the candidate, now is the president, I disagree, this is, I'm quoting you, I disagree with those who suggested that the risk Trump poses to the free press is so high that news organizations such as mine should cast aside neutrality and directly oppose his re-election. I think this was a pretty mainstream conventional wisdom theory of the case up through last fall and post-election there were a lot of sort of finger wagging from various folks and journalism circles saying, hey, we can't steer into resistance journalism, et cetera. It seems like that resonated with you. That said, we're now in that era where Trump is actively trying to undermine the press. And there's lots of other stuff, right? You could point to what he's doing with the law firms. Do you ever think, go.”
2025-05-05 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · NYT publisher AG Sulzberger on Trump, OpenAI, and the economy · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“If you were willing to Without getting into too many sort of private conversations, I think it's important to imagine to not accidentally stumble in to the very reaction that the White House is hoping for, which is to have a bunch of serious journalists willing to ask tough questions on behalf of the American people, independent journalists, remove themselves from a position to do that.”
2025-05-05 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · NYT publisher AG Sulzberger on Trump, OpenAI, and the economy · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“and to replace them with organizations that are less independent, that maybe are more openly supportive of the president in his agenda, so that they won't be challenged, right? And in fact, they'll have their messages sort of uncritically received and conveyed to those audiences. So the notion that you have this sort of secondary journalistic adjacent ecosystem that they're trying to move in, I think is a new dynamic.”
2025-05-05 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · NYT publisher AG Sulzberger on Trump, OpenAI, and the economy · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Protest, so it's a great question, me and many of my peers have reached out to the AP and asked how we can be supportive. I think on principle, there's not a serious news organization that doesn't have major concerns about this, including some news organizations on the right. I think there is a quite powerful quote from the Fox News White House reporter talking about the dangers of allowing a president to take an action like this. In the past, when Fox had been kicked out of some briefings by the Obama White House, my organization was among the many news organizations that said we're not going to attend them either. What's trickier in this moment is that the White House is very plainly Trying to remove organizations that are willing to ask the tough questions, the questions that the president doesn't want to answer.”
2025-05-05 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · NYT publisher AG Sulzberger on Trump, OpenAI, and the economy · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“There's talk about whether the press should engage in some sort of collective action on behalf of the AP or in any of these incidents. How do you think about it as the time spublisher? Do you want to see a concerted effort? Would you condone having your staff not attend press conferences? Yeah. Protest.”
2025-05-05 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · NYT publisher AG Sulzberger on Trump, OpenAI, and the economy · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“For using the phrase Gulf of Mexico to describe the body of water that has had that name internationally and domestically for hundreds of years. So I think when you think about in those terms, should not even this present, should any president of the United States? And this is why it's so important because it doesn't matter your politics. It doesn't matter which party you may or may not support. Should any president of the United States have the power to instruct media what language they can and cannot use to describe things and then to take retaliatory actions to punish them when they don't use those terms? You know, if the AP deserves a great deal of credit, they're fighting that in courts. But if they had accepted that, they would have been opening the door to an entirely New form of government overreach.”
2025-05-05 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · NYT publisher AG Sulzberger on Trump, OpenAI, and the economy · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, and not even banning them from the White House, banning them even more specifically from the press pool, which itself is sort of a complicated body that's hard to explain, right? At its core, I think this is about something much simpler, and that is whether the president of the United States and the people who work for him get to tell independent news organizations what words they can and cannot use, right? You know, it is plain that they've been retaliated against, right? And the administration's been open about that.”
2025-05-05 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · NYT publisher AG Sulzberger on Trump, OpenAI, and the economy · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah. So it's less dramatic. I mean, that is a big caveat. And I think it's actually a useful example. But it's all around this concept of chilling, right? It is clear that they're trying to create. Series of consequences, of negative consequences for asking questions that the administration doesn't want to ask, and for publishing information that the administration doesn't want public. And I think the AP is a good example of this, right? So on one hand, it can seem sort of technocratic.”
2025-05-05 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · NYT publisher AG Sulzberger on Trump, OpenAI, and the economy · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I mean, I think there's a mixture of things. I mean, first of all, as to the point of the line that you quoted, it hasn't been dramatic, right? They're not jailing journalists. No journalists are being killed in the streets, right? They're not shutting down news organizations.”
2025-05-05 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · NYT publisher AG Sulzberger on Trump, OpenAI, and the economy · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“It seems like the counter argument to this would be well, they're not interfering with the free press. No one is marching in a newsroom and seizing people's computers. Generally, that's not happening in the U.S. No one has demanded that the New York Times has to unpublish a story critical of Donald Trump. What they're doing instead is, very often investigating Comcast over DEI, Comcast owns big news operations. Same thing with Disney. It looks like it's going to go on down the line, where they're not saying we are deliberately trying to interfere with the imaginations of news organizations. We're just looking at other things that happen to be involved with the parent company. Is that the sort of stuff you're thinking about?”
2025-05-05 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · NYT publisher AG Sulzberger on Trump, OpenAI, and the economy · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“a check against abuse of power, against incompetence, against corruption, self-dealing. And that model has continued to be a bipartisan ideal over the last century, right? So the Supreme Court, it's been one of the most regular points of consensus are around the free press and free expression and First Amendment rights in this country. So I remain extremely hopeful about this. I do think our industry needs to, in addition to preparing for what comes and finding the right way to stand up against abuses that are designed to undermine the press's ability to report and find information and then bring it to the American public, I also think that we need to explain ourselves to the public why they should care, right? You know, the press shouldn't just matter to folks like you and me who are employed.”
2025-05-05 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · NYT publisher AG Sulzberger on Trump, OpenAI, and the economy · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Look, I'm a big believer in the American system, and you know a free press in this country has not been a partisan ideal. It's not a democratic ideal, right? It's an American ideal. The founding fathers were a politically and ideologically diverse group of people. And this was one of the few points of true unanimity, right? The centrality of having a press that would arm this country, this democracy, with the information it needed to lead itself, right? And also provide a central”
2025-05-05 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · NYT publisher AG Sulzberger on Trump, OpenAI, and the economy · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“In that. But you'd certainly. And I'm just wondering if we're at the point, and this will be very doomy, where making these kind of arguments is almost kind of beside the point because there's no one in authority who's going to pay attention to them.”
2025-05-05 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · NYT publisher AG Sulzberger on Trump, OpenAI, and the economy · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, I mean, there's one line here that I really want to underline Leaders have recognized the crackdown on the press are most effective when they're at their least dramatic, not the stuff of thrillers, but a movie so plotting and complicated no one wants to watch it. So I've been writing this about some of this stuff over the last few months. There is not a huge audience demand to learn about what's happening at the FCC and how they're interfering with a 60 minutes interview or how Trump is suing the Des Moines Register over an inaccurate poll. But I'm also not surprised that there's not a lot of audience for that period. And then it also seems like the election in a lot of ways is just a referendum on how people consume, whether or not people consume news. Broadly, it seems like people who consumed what we would consider news traditional news voted for Kamala Harris, those who didn't voted for Donald Trump, some great issues. I think it's a little more new.”
2025-05-05 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · NYT publisher AG Sulzberger on Trump, OpenAI, and the economy · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“In retrospect, so off base and hyperbolic, so it has been dispiriting to see how. How quickly the central concerns have been validated.”
2025-05-05 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · NYT publisher AG Sulzberger on Trump, OpenAI, and the economy · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“It was clear to me that First, at the end of Trump's first term, his antipress rhetoric did start to shift into anti-press action, right? You know, there was a number of examples of that. More notably, over the course of his campaign, he and his supporters became more explicit about their desire to crack down on the free press in the United States. And it was clear to me that there was a playbook that they'd be drawing from if they followed through on those promises. And I thought it was really important to study that playbook. First just to get my own organization ready for what might come, but also to encourage other leaders and media and other journalists to get to know that playbook too because of the high likelihood that it would be employed here. I think it's essential, you know, when our industry is under pressure, you know, for us to be preparing as much as possible and stealing ourselves for what may come. I have to say, I've never written something that I wished to look.”
2025-05-05 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · NYT publisher AG Sulzberger on Trump, OpenAI, and the economy · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Right, which you published last September And basically, your main parallel. This is happening around the world, but you were really focused on Hungary, what Orban has done there. It's well worth reading. It's prescient, right? Because what you're describing in Hungary is happening here to varying degrees. We can talk about that. But what did you think that what was the point of publishing it one at all and then two in the post? What did you think would happen?”
2025-05-05 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · NYT publisher AG Sulzberger on Trump, OpenAI, and the economy · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“What we call it. Exactly, exactly. That might expose misconduct by leaders, for example. So we saw the crackdown that I feared in the years since those conversations. What's striking about this moment, right? President Trump in his first term brought a new level of anti-press rhetoric to this country. And then subsequently legitimized implicitly encouraged a global anti-press crackdown What we're seeing now in his second term, President Trump is importing some of the lessons and tactics and tools of those anti press crackdowns that have been put in place abroad and bringing them here into the United States. That was the central concern that animated my piece in the Washington Post.”
2025-05-05 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · NYT publisher AG Sulzberger on Trump, OpenAI, and the economy · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“No, no, in fact, denied that, right? But I felt it was really important to put it on the record. Now, since that time, we've now seen, I think, more than 70 countries pass laws that ostensibly crack down on quote-unquote fake news. And these are 70 laws that actually use that term, the term that President Trump repopularized. They're not trying to crack down on fake news, as you or I would think about it. They're trying to crack down on independent news that might expose misconduct.”
2025-05-05 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · NYT publisher AG Sulzberger on Trump, OpenAI, and the economy · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Um, you know, he claimed to have been surprised, he said that I was the only person who ever had raised this with him. He said that he wanted to be, he believed in the press, he wanted to be pro-press. Then, of course, he moved quickly to his complaints about his own coverage and more. So I wouldn't describe as the most productive conversation.”
2025-05-05 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · NYT publisher AG Sulzberger on Trump, OpenAI, and the economy · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Have at us. After me, feel free to attack me by name and whatever channel of your choosing. We're big enough and establish enough and strong enough to take it. But I wasn't sure he was aware of the downstream effect his antipress rhetoric was having at the local level in the United States, right, but particularly abroad, particularly abroad in countries in which there is less of a tradition, a free inquiry, a free expression, of a free press. And those are the very countries in which America has long determined it is most important that America supports the essential democratic role of a free and independent press. So the first time I sort of raised those concerns, the second time I went to the Oval Office, I told him we were already starting to see the negative effects crackdowns. Using the president's own rhetoric.”
2025-05-05 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · NYT publisher AG Sulzberger on Trump, OpenAI, and the economy · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Invited me to the White House. I accepted the I That someone Explained to him the Was having. And Likely to have You know, and the thing At that”
2025-05-05 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · NYT publisher AG Sulzberger on Trump, OpenAI, and the economy · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“There's a bunch I can That is it useful just How I landed there in President Trump's first term I had a conversation with him actually With him, in which”
2025-05-05 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · NYT publisher AG Sulzberger on Trump, OpenAI, and the economy · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“All right, well, let's zoom out a little bit. Like I said, you've been concerned about press freedom in the US internationally for a long time when you spoke with me at code years ago. That was top of mind for you. It's still top of mind for you. Last fall, you published an op-ed in The Washington Post called How the Quiet War Against Press Freedom Could Come to America. You want to accomplish that op-ed, and why do you run it in a competitive newspaper?”
2025-05-05 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · NYT publisher AG Sulzberger on Trump, OpenAI, and the economy · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I mean, of course, Have been a leader of In the 2020s, which means that my superpower. Seeing doom around every corner, and that power has served me and I think the institute. Well, so I think we have, we tend to look at what could go wrong and try to prepare ourselves for that. So that's true on any of the fronts that we're likely to talk about today.”
2025-05-05 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · NYT publisher AG Sulzberger on Trump, OpenAI, and the economy · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“You're in as strong a shape as a news organization can be in this country in this moment. That said, have you guys had any conversation of like, oh, if the markets tumble like this, this could do this to advertising, or we might see softening subscriptions if people are really hanging on to their dollars? Or is that not happened yet?”
2025-05-05 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · NYT publisher AG Sulzberger on Trump, OpenAI, and the economy · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“One famous magazine cover story suggested that we might go bankrupt in a matter of months. You know, my predecessor and his team deserve a great deal of credit for getting us back to strong financial footing. Some of it, much of it was a shift in our business strategy, but also a shift in our willingness to embrace technology and to innovate in how we do our journalism. All that has left us in an Position that we think is. Stronger for”
2025-05-05 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · NYT publisher AG Sulzberger on Trump, OpenAI, and the economy · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And as you know, you know, you go back a decade, certainly 15 years, but even a decade ago. People weren't sure that the New York Times was going to make it, right? We weren't on.”
2025-05-05 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · NYT publisher AG Sulzberger on Trump, OpenAI, and the economy · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Long term oriented business. I mean, really long term, we're a hundred. And part of the value of our unique structure is that we don't need to overreact to The technological landscape and the journalistic landscape. We have also financial footing.”
2025-05-05 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · NYT publisher AG Sulzberger on Trump, OpenAI, and the economy · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“You were concerned about press freedom then. I want to ask you about that. But since we're recording this on Monday morning, the markets are in free fall again. Who knows what they'll be like in a couple days when this podcast comes out?”
2025-05-05 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · NYT publisher AG Sulzberger on Trump, OpenAI, and the economy · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I wanted to talk to Salzburger in detail about the predictions he made last fall and a whole bunch of other stuff too, like why the Times chose to sue OpenAI instead of taking its cash. The importance of the paper's op-ed section, and how the paper may fare in what we're going to euphemistically call an uncertain economy. That's all in this conversation, and I'm glad I get to share it with you. Now here's me and A.G. Salzer. I'm here with A.G. Salzberger. He is the publisher, The New York Times. Welcome.”
2025-05-05 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · NYT publisher AG Sulzberger on Trump, OpenAI, and the economy · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
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