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Aisha Tyler

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first: 2021-12-07
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“Trying to be a better version of himself, but slowly over the course of an afternoon, and the movie takes place in real time as he's driving through Los Angeles, his life starts to unravel. And it's really about him trying to hold things together, trying to be a better person, trying to be a better person in his relationships with his family, with people that he works with, just trying to be better. It's really dark. It's very funny. I happen to think, and I'm sure I'll get some letters about this, but I happen to find that addicts are really entertaining people. And I don't mean they're funny, like, like laugh at them. I find that they typically people who have broken themselves down are just more honest than people who are trying to be perfect all the time. And so, you know, he's just, he's a guy who's self-aware. He's aware of the mistakes he's made. So it's a very darkly funny movie.”
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“That's such a good question. Well, so Axis is a thriller about an expatriate Irish actor living in Los Angeles who has had a lot of success, kind of explosive success in his youth and has really just used all of his resources to just wreck his life. He's a drunk and he's a drug addict and he's terrible about relationships and he's addicted to everybody. And when we meet him, he's trying to turn his life around. And it's really about a guy who's not a bad person, but he's done some bad stuff, which I think almost every human being can relate to. I mean, we all have a little bit of a demon inside of us. And I think this is just a guy who's been, he's been frail in the past, but he's really.”
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“To like be radically great. Like, don't be like I saw 10 things like this, let me do the 11th thing. Like, be brave enough to court failure. That's probably when you're going to do something great.”
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“It's just because I made the best movie I could that, you know, it got all of this attention, but I don't think I was going in my like, this is going to be a massive hit. I was like, I'm going to make this little movie. And then for the next one, when people say, well, what have you done? I could be like, look at this little thing I made, you know. So I think you have to always be focused on the results, not the result, on the thing and not the result. Because the result is directly tied to the quality of the thing. So not about infamy. It's about fame. And fame is based on quality of your work. So just be doing excellent shit all the time. And eventually one of those things will connect with other people.”
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“I mean, it was a short film, and it wasn't, it was a two and a half minute short film that was just funny. You didn't know who was, we didn't know these guys. No one knew who they were. And they didn't have any connections. And I think it was just about doing something that felt original and personal. And I get it just comes back to like, don't try to figure out what people want. Just do what's interesting and important to you and then keep doing it until you come up with something extraordinary. And that will be your calling card. It may not happen as fast as you want or as aggressively as you want or as expansibly as you want. But in the meantime, you're doing cool shit, which should be your primary goal in any event. When I made access, honestly, I just wanted to make a movie to show people I could make a movie. I wanted to make the best movie I could. And I was very rigorous in leveraging the resources that I had to the best of my ability. But I don't know that I had a lot of expectation that a lot of people would see it.”
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“Three black eyes where the one guy goes up and it's the little intercoma goes, wazah. And then the other guy goes, wazah. And the third guy goes, that was a short film that some guy made on like a digital camera. None of them were famous. They were just some guys in New York. That ended up being that Budweiser campaign.”
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“All you need to do is work at the highest possible caliber of quality that you can. I mean, I think you also touched on this about the idea that people are like more interested in being expeditious than they are and being good. I think that this holds very, very true for this business. A lot of people have gotten, have made headway because they did something that nobody saw. But when people ask them what they did, the thing they were able to show was extraordinary. And I don't mean like expensive, extraordinary. I just mean unique and personal and crafted with care. And so if that's something that you wrote or if it's something that you made, if you made the number of, I mean, this is not the best example, but it's a good one. 20 years ago, there was this video tape going around Hollywood of these guys in an apartment. And it was VHS tape. That's how long ago it was. And people were dubbing it and sending and giving to friends of these guys in an apartment.”
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“It says hi, and again, I understand that maybe this is going to feel a little rarified. Hi, I'm an American actress. I've worked on these shows. I've been shadowing to direct for a long time. I would be really grateful if I could come and visit your show for a few days and shadow. And I will be as unobtrusive and invisible as I possibly can. And I'll be here these days. And, you know, I understand if you can't accommodate me, but I would really be grateful. And I think it helped in my particular case because I had tweeted a lot about how much I loved Vikings. So they kind of knew that I was a big fan of the show. And I did some tweeting from Set. You know, I kind of like paid my way in.”
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“Just really wanted more discomfort in my life. I was like, you know, it's just very easy the older you get to be like, you know, get in car, go to work, eat, bag, lunch, get in car, go to gym, go home, eat food, watch TV, go to bed. And then you just think like, am I growing? interesting? Am I going to, you know what I mean? I have one life and I'm just spending it in this like torpor. And so for that, I was going to a place where, I mean, I knew one guy at Petty Dreadful, but I didn't know anybody at this other show. And I just kind of cold called them and said, you know, can I come visit? And they were super gracious.”
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“Well, it wasn't as prolonged of a period as it sounds like. I was on hiatus. So I was working on the talk at the time and we get a month off every year. So I went in that month. But I think if I was talking to a layperson who didn't work in television, I would say like, you know, if what you want is to grow in whatever field you're interested in, like just create a space for that. Like, you know, make that your vacation. It wasn't like I was like riding around in a limousine. Like I just flew over and I hung around, you know, for like a week and watched people work. And it wasn't any more or less burdensome than taking a vacation. But one thing I was more interested in doing as I got older and we started with this in the beginning is like, you said it. And I think we kind of went past it, but that's so interesting to me. I just, I was more.”
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“Yeah, it is. It's like the arts center of Ireland. They've got a beautiful film festival in the summer. They've got an arts festival, like local theater. It was just a great experience. We got it in the can in three days, and it was just super cool and personal. And then that same writer who had written that short had a feature he had already written and he asked me if I wanted to take a look at it. And it was just a perfect first film. And that's the film that became Axis.”
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“In Ireland at the end of 2014. That was my first narrative short, my first kind of story driven short. And it was just great. It was just like, I was like, oh, this is like totally who I am. This is what I want to do with my life.”
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“Had some material I'd written, but it was kind of going to be an expensive movie. But I was still shadowing, so I had a friend who had a show called Petty Dreadful, John Logan, who create a Petty Dreadful. I met him at Comic-Con. I'd hosted the panel for that show. And he was like, hey, you love the show. You should come visit us in Ireland. And I remember thinking like to myself, people always say that. And you always say, yeah, and then you never do it. I was like, I'm going to do it. I'm fucking going to Ireland, man. I'm going to be cool. I'm going to be a cool kid for once in my life. And so I ended up going over and visiting Penny Dreadful and Vikings shot right up the road. So I got them to let me visit that set. I just hung out and like passed out sandwiches and, you know, lifted stuff and asked questions and watched them work. And then while I was over there, I met a bunch of Irish actors and one of them, two of them actually, one was an actor, composer, one was a writer, a screenwriter, and an actor. And we ended up making a short film together.”
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“And then a lot of it was just getting confident with my own ability and my ability to articulate what I wanted from other people. How do the other jobs in a set work? Who does what? What do I need? Oh, God, this didn't work. You know, I didn't work because I didn't have this kind of a person on set. Like there were, you know, I was shooting digitally and then on one show on one of my things that I shot like we didn't have like a tech on set to like to help me make sure that it looked the way that I wanted it to look like that the levels were set properly. So when I got home to edit it, like add some problems. But like it wasn't, they weren't, they weren't catastrophic problems. They were just because I wasn't making Star Wars. You know what I mean? I was just able to be like, well, this is what it is and I'm going to make this and move on. And then I was getting ready to, I really wanted to do a feature. I didn't.”
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“Yeah, like I think a lot of it was just skill building. Like, how do you frame up and how do you make choices and how do you do coverage? And then how do you edit? Like a lot of it was just really tactical, as you would say, practical, tactical.”
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“It just felt like a way to get more people to see it. I had done that first music video for my comedy central special, which was really like a comedic video, but then I was like, oh, I really like working in this space. And a lot of directors come out of music video because you can be kind of radically creative in that space. You don't need to have any like narrative linearity. You can experiment. You can be radical. It could just be like a series of images. And I also thought, well, people who like this band, and I love this band, will want to see something about them. It'll be a great way for people to see something. And then hopefully I can tell a story at the same time. And so I did three of those. And I did a little action short. Like I just kind of kept making stuff, you know, every time I did it, I learned something. Time I did it, I took a bigger risk creatively.”
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“And then because I didn't have any more money after that, I learned how to edit and I edited it myself and I delivered it to the network because I couldn't afford to pay for additional edit time. And then after that, I thought, okay, I want to do more of this. So then I rented a camera. I rented like a can of 5D. And I had some friends who were in bands. And again, like it sounds fancy, but everybody probably knows somebody who does something. You know, just because I had some friends who were in a famous band doesn't mean that people out there don't have friends were in bands. So I just called some buddies of mine that were in bands and I said, hey, if you let me come on tour with you, I will make you a free music video, just a piece of fan art. You can use it however you like. I'm not going to charge anybody any money for it. But just I want to make something and I want to make something for you. And so I ended up going on the road with Silver Sum pickups for a couple of dates and then spending a day with Clutch when they were performing in Anaheim. And then I just gave them, I just cut music videos and delivered it to them.”
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“The crew was already going to come up the day before and leave the day after to shoot the special. And we'd already rented the cameras and everything like that. But I had to still had to pay them for the extra work. I took my fee and I used it to pay everybody else.”
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“And that was kind of the first thing I directed. I just used the crew that was already working on the special and shot this video with them.”
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“I just believe that if you want to make a movie, just start making a movie. And I don't mean like, oh, get a camera and start shooting it, but what I do mean is like be hard on yourself. Like learn, read, learn, watch, study, think critically, ask people questions. And then make a movie and then let it be shitty and then make another one and let that one be shitty and keep doing it until you get better at it. Like the first short film I made was, and it's an abomination and we'll never see the light of day. I had no idea what I was doing. But that didn't make me not want to be a director. It just made me realize I needed to learn more. And then I started to feel like I was more ready and I was like, I need to make some stuff. So first thing was I did a comedy central special and I took the money that would have been my salary and I use it to make a like a little short music video that like opens the comedy special. It wasn't anything that was mandated by the network. I was like, I want to do something different. So I wrote the song and I performed it and I made music video.”
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“Yeah, and just got to just be on the other side of a process that can be relatively opaque when you're an actor. You just kind of show up and say your lines and leave. And then I started making shorts. And I guess this is going to sound very glib, but because I'm sure I have resources available to me that lots of people don't. But I do feel in it. Like I just believe in personal aggression. Like I just believe in doing stuff.”
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“After movie. And so it just came out of a real end user's love for film. Like I was just someone who was transported by movies. And then when I left Talk Soup, I had been writing on that show and like there was a void and I wrote a script that I was developing with a company and I just kept talking about how I thought it should look and how I thought it should feel. And it was just so much more specific than being a writer. And they were like, you know, you should direct, this is clearly like a movie that you should direct. And I hadn't really thought about it. But I was just so intertwined with the material and what I wanted it to feel like. Ended up shadowing with some really incredible people. I ended up spending several days on the wire in its last season. For a while.”
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“It is tough. Yeah. Like, so that's a really good question because I feel like there's that really humiliating kind of, you know, clam about, you know, I'm an actor, but what I really want to do is direct. And it feels very cliched. I feel like it was more organic for me because again, I wasn't someone who kind of, I didn't go to film school. And I also don't think I had the hubris to think like, oh, I've done this for a couple years now. I can direct. I had written something. I love movies. We were talking about earlier. I was raised by a single dad and, you know, I was one of those kids who like I'd go with my dad to see like die hard or road warrior and you know way too early an age like super inappropriate or like by the time you know like when i was in high school i'd seen the terminator like the first terminator from like 20 or 30 times like i i just loved movies i'd go to the theater i'd buy a matinee ticket and i'd stay in the theater until like eight o'clock at night and i would just like watch movie after movie”
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“Have to please yourself. I mean, you just have to please yourself, period. Because I might not go your way anyway. But the worst thing is creating something to figure out what people want and then creating some piece of shit, some like crass, you know, glib, solicitous piece of shit. And people don't buy it anyway. Why not make something you love? And then people don't buy it, and Lisa was something that you loved and you're not embarrassed by it.”
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“Truth about yourself, people go, Oh my God, holy shit. That guy spoke to me or about me or was so vulnerable in that moment. Like that was amazing. And that's the difference between good comedy and great comedy or between good art and great art or writing or anything.”
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“Nothing wrong with trying to connect with an audience, but I just didn't want to copy other people to try to get people to like me. And, you know, for a long time, I really struggled. And then eventually my tribe found me. But I was able to stay. Oh, now I sound like a self-help book, but like true to who I was, because that was the only way forward, the only way forward as an artist is to be is to be truthful. In the end, your work is not going to be interesting or meaningful if you are trying to emulate somebody else or trying to figure out what people want from you or what they like or what's popular meaningful art only lasts. It only connects if it's authentic and if it comes from your own personal experiences and if and until you figure that out like what that is it's never going to be interesting it's never going to be good and i always tell people it's not being funny is not really actually the most important part of comedy being truthful is because if someone sees a good show they go that guy was really funny but when you tell the truth”
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“Exactly, exactly. So, this is really interesting also because I think if you're an artist specifically, this is a really important conversation to have with yourself, which is like when I first started out at stand-up, you know, this was like”
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“Your thing because go find something that's your thing, their opinion is valuable to you. Like, I think there's a freedom in saying, I don't need everybody to like me. I think that there is something very meaningful in saying like, this is who I am. I'll defend it, but I'm not here to be savaged by you. And honestly, we don't know each other. I don't care what you think anyway. You know, or maybe that person makes you think more critically about what you did and then you take the big booty picture down. I don't know. But I think you put it up purposefully to see what you were going to get back. I totally.”
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“Remain perfect all the time are fear driven. Like, that's not a position of strength. You're not, people think they're maintaining position of strength when they're trying to maintain an appearance of perfection, but that is by its very nature a posture of fear, which is I cannot be seen to have imperfections. I cannot be seen to have flaws. There can be no chinks in my armor. And I am terrified of being judged. But there is something very liberating, and I think it comes from age as well and from experience. I don't mean experience like a resume, but like just having experiences to realize how little you know and how the only way to learn is to constantly be like skinning your knees and that that doesn't go away like the older you get the more you know that you know very little and that you cannot learn if you are constantly trying to maintain a posture of perfection”
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“It's so good. And that's so interesting to me. And it's different than just being a slob. What you're seeing is I refuse to create a box within which I will be kept by others. And I think that comes also from a curiosity about the world. I actually think that people who are trying to.”
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“A bright burst is as meaningful as a slow burn. And I don't really know, I don't, I actually don't really know what we do or what should be done or what should happen to counteract that other than people start to maybe get hip to it and start rejecting baseless journalism and it's just so hard to distinguish. I don't know. I find it, let me take that back. I find it very easy to distinguish between things that seem like they've been thoroughly bedded and things that are bullshit. But I think that people are working very hard to make it harder for the rest of us to distinguish between the two. So there are, you know, without me sounding like a crazy person, there are nefarious forces at work trying to make it very hard for us to figure out what's real and what's not real. And I think we have to start to raise people who are just more critical thinkers, but it's hard to be a critical thinker when you're just scrolling through your Instagram.”
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“Right. And also, like, it's interesting when I went to school, you know, we had the, you know, the honor system, and you were just expected to hold yourself to a high standard because that was what was right. This is what you did. You know what I mean? You just, you were going to be called upon to stand behind your work. And so you tried to work very hard to make sure that you could defend it. I think that I don't think that it's like we're any less ethical than we've ever been. It's just like you said, our metrics have changed. And I think that people value fame for fame's sake rather than for the foundational reasons that people become famous. And I think that's the problem. And I don't think it just exists in journalism. I think that people value infamy, or they can't distinguish between fame and infamy. And, you know, with a 24-hour news cycle, like, you know,”
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“Probably for writers, it's like I'm going to find a space that's that really says something about like my accumulated understanding and knowledge of the world. And it's not just enough to say something. Like I need to say something that's uniquely mine. as something you can only do with by being prolific because you need to be able to let things go in order to figure out what should stay.”
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“On tape that I just have never listened to, so I don't know why I still engage in that behavior when it's clearly not useful to me. But I think the more you do it, the more you intuitively understand, oh, this is a rich area people are connecting with this, this other stuff. There's also something you learn as you move through comedy, which is it's not just important to get a laugh. Like, does this material say something specific and personal about me? Because when you're a baby comic, every joke is meaningful to you because you only have like eight jokes, right? And so even if they're stupid or juvenile or unsophisticated or valueless or coreless, you'll still do them because that's all you have. And then as you get older, you start to think, okay, like I want to have a body of work here. Does this hang together? Does it have a strong point of view? Does it have an identity? And then those other jokes start to fall away. And then the material really becomes about trying to tell some kind of a story about yourself and the way you perceive the world. And then that's how you shape it. And so sometimes things that are really funny go away. Things that are less funny stay because they're more empowered.”
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“I guess the way that I did it was that I. I'm also really undisciplined comedian. And what I mean is there's a documentary about Gary Chandling out right now, which I haven't watched, but I'm sure that this is in there because he was very famous for being a really disciplined writer. Like he would get up and he would write every single day. And sometimes it would be pages and pages of material. Without bail, other comics would be like, hey, let's get a beer and be like, no, I have to write. And every day he would write, like, you know, on this like legal, this is probably true and apocrypha at the same time on this like legal I note this tiny handwriting. He would just write and write and write and write. I do not do that. I've never worked that way. I just get on stage. I try a bunch of stuff. I keep what works. I know what works. I already know right away what works. I'll run off stage. I'll write down the things that I knew hit. I'll write down the things I know didn't hit. And then I'll go back and try it again, dropping the stuff that wasn't good and putting new stuff in. I record my sets, but I never, I cannot listen to my own voice. So I have hours and hours of material.”
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“And also, if you're going to do any kind of a diversion, if you're going to lead people in one direction and then snap around to a different kind of absurdist result, you can't do that in two. There has to be the pace of it has to be three And then pass through, you're starting to draw things out too long, but two doesn't give people enough of a time to get involved into a false sense of security before you kind of pull the rug out from under them. As soon as you start explaining the math of comedy, none of it makes any sense. You know what I mean? It's those two things. Someone who's really gifted at physics, they know that there are rules, but still they see things that other people can't see. You know what I mean? They see the world as numbers and data and the rest of us are just like table, chair, water section.”
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“I mean Right. I probably won't even be able to articulate it properly. It's just that if you're going to do a series of jokes or a series of builds to a punchline, it needs to be three.”
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“Try to talk my way into situations, or if I was in a social situation, talk really fast, try to keep myself engaging, not be rejected. So that was what I brought to it was like that combination of being an outsider and an observer and then using those skills to try to kind of”
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“And I think with comedy, there are people who very workmanlike can learn how to do comedy. And then there's some people who are just naturally comedic, and they still have to work to be better at it. You say Bolt still has to train, even though he was born with, you know, more fast switch muscles than everybody else. He still has to train to become a champion. So I feel like with comedy, people can be the class clown and they can be that guy who's naturally funny. There's still a methodology and there's still a mathematics to becoming a comic. And then at the same time, if they have this ephemeral, ineffable kind of understanding of the math of comedy, they're going to be able to do something magical with those skills. So for me, I don't know that I thought I was a funny kid, but I was an observer and I was really nerdy and a little bit of a social pariah. So storytelling we came away to make friends. You know what I mean? Like ingratiate myself. I would kind of play.”
2021-12-07 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #552: Aisha Tyler — How to Use Pain, Comedy, and Practice for Creativity (Repost) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Right, that's a good question. You know, it's interesting, like, I think that there's a definite math to comedy, and then there's also... A secondary kind of like ineffability, you know what I mean? And I guess what I mean is like you can learn how to be a better comic, but you can't learn how to be a comic. You even put a different way. I really wanted to be an engineer and I could have really suffered and struggled through the elevated math. I would need to become an engineer. But it would never be effortless for me.”
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“But what was great was nobody else at the table wanted to leave. They were like, Yo, good riddance to bad rubbish. And he, you know, he went on and the rest of the people enjoyed their night. But again, that was me. That was my, you know, I should have been disciplined enough not to be distracted by, you know, old sour puss, but I just, I'm only human. You know what I mean? It's a crunch, if the grinches sitting in the front row, you know, something must be done.”
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“And it was just like straight vignette on this guy's like sourpus face. And it was just wrecking my whole night. And I finally just said, if you don't want to be here, just fucking go, man. I'll give you your money back. I cannot look at your face for one more minute. And I meant it. It wasn't even joke. I was just like, get out, man. You are harshing my mellow so hard. And he left. And I didn't feel bad about it. And then I went on with the show. And his girlfriend goes, he had a bad day. I was like,”
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“I think that I kept saying thank you. That's super sweet. Shut the fuck up. Like, you know, clearly you weren't hugged enough as a child. I mean, I just eventually got mean because it was just like I couldn't get this woman to stop talking. And I think the people around her got embarrassed and they eventually kind of shut her up, which was nice. And I don't think there are any other really good hecklers that, oh, I had one guy, and it's a mental discipline too, because, you know, like again, like it's your show. You have the microphone. You're in control. You know, I think the audience thinks they're in control, but they're not. I mean, the Bilber scenario is a perfect example. The person with the microphone has all the power. And as long as they cannot be moved, they will eventually win. But I had this one guy who was sitting really close to the stage. It was like a group of 12 people and they were all like laughing their asses off. And then he was just arms crossed just look like he just had just eaten a big scoop of fecal matter. And he was all I could see. Like, you know what I mean? Like the whole audience had disappeared.”
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“I love you. This one girl at one show in San Francisco just so drunk. I'm just cross eyed. And for the 90 minutes I was on stage, I love you. I love you so much. And I was just like, lady, like all you are doing is making me want to hit you in the head with this microphone stand. Your affection is not welcome here. And everybody else is like staring at this woman. But she, this is a genuine expression of emotion for this person that is destroying my joy completely. So, you know, I really have a habit of just not talking to Hecklers.”
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“They say something, you slam them a little bit, they shut up because they think they're helping you out. It was the famous line is they'll come up and be like, hey, you like how I helped you out? I'm like, but I came with jokes. I don't even have a box jumper in my ass, right? I showed up ready to go. But when people are affectionate, you can't insult them. And they're the most unmanageable kind of happiness.”
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“It was like a B in my ear. And as a result, I just seemed insane. You know what I mean? Stopping to yell at this person that no one could hear. It was a very effective echo because she just completely derailed my show. And I just seem like a dick because I was like, shut up, lady. But no one could hear what she was saying. Nice lady in the front trying to put the night. I remember that. I really went off the rails last night. And I generally have a rule of heckler's that unless they're really disruptive to the entire room, I just never address them. Because what you do is, again, you've derailed a show for 500 or 1,000 people to deal with one person. And everyone's never going to really understand what's going on unless that person's so loud that they're affected everybody else's enjoyment of the night. But sometimes the affectionate hecklers are the worst because they don't like, you know, typically hecklers just want to be a part of the show. And so, you know,”
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“God, yeah. I mean, again, I started doing stand up like 25 years ago. So at this point, like all the sets have just kind of blended. And heckling can be lots of different things. It doesn't always have to be like the conventional kind of you suck heckle. One at one time where this woman, and this kind of dovetails perfectly with the old, like don't turn the audience against you, where this woman was talking to me, she was sitting the front row and she was talking to me the entire show. Just loud enough that I could hear her, but not really loud enough so the audience could hear her, except for the people right around her. And it was driving me crazy.”
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“It was straight prison. That was straight prison yard dynamics, right? That's the line from out of sight, right? Just like the yard. Nobody backing down. Nobody's backing down. And he just, you know, I think there was like a thousand of them to one of her, probably like 10,000 of them to one of him. And he just did not back down. He got the slow respect clap at the end of the show.”
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“Everybody lives. But what happens is up until that beat, the whole audience has been on the comedian side against this guy. And it is a hairpin turn from them being like, yeah, shut up because, you know, the comics like, hey, you know, people can't enjoy the show because you're talking keep, you know, keep it down. And then he hits this guy in the whole audience, just turns on him just like instantaneous like, you know, Frankenstein's monster mob, just the pitchforks come flying out. And so one of the unwritten rules of comedy is that, you know, you just don't, you want to try to at all costs avoid turning everybody against you, which so Bill broke a bunch of rules, but he just, he never gave up, you know, which I think it becomes this, you know, it's like the rooty moment at the end of the movie, like, man, that sucked, but you should stuck in there.”
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“But this is just a sidebar, but don't forget what you were going to say. There's another very famous video, very famous, and it happened at the punchline in San Francisco, where there's a guy playing a good guitar comic and a guy's heckling him. And it's kind of just a combative back and forth, but nothing too extreme. But then the guy gets up and he comes towards the stage, you know, whatever, to defend himself or the girl he's with, something like that. And the guy just hauls off and hits him in the head with a guitar.”
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