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Andrew Callaghan

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  1. And it is somewhat interesting the Silk Road and the Great Wall and Terracotta soldiers and stuff. But I'm just saying, like, when I got to college, I signed up for journalism school, right? And I didn't get to take a media class until the second semester. And I had to take everything prior to that. And I'd already spent so much time. I just think the excruciating boredom of schooling left a bad taste in my mouth. But there was individual classes that I liked a lot.

    2024-04-13 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #425 – Andrew Callaghan: Channel 5, Gonzo, QAnon, O-Block, Politics & Alex Jones · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  2. Part that makes school difficult, especially in college, is that you have people just going to school just to get the degree who don't really know exactly what they're interested in and they don't even have time to figure that out because they're in a business program or a communications program with no specific interest.

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  3. And so I just want to say shout out to all those teachers. I didn't hate every class. The point that I was making is that being forced into the institution of school so young and having to take common core classes like biology, dissecting frogs, history of the Han dynasty, stuff like that that I didn't want to learn, but I had to learn multiple times. I mean, I learned about the dynastic cycle in ancient China three separate times at three different schools. And I was like, who is writing this curriculum and why is it so important that I understand this process?

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  4. Okay, we need to clear this up because on my Wikipedia page, for some reason, for Andrew Callahan early life, it says Andrew hated every single class except for one. So I've had a bunch of teachers who are super cool, like this guy, Tim, my astronomy professor at ninth grade, Mrs. Zanetti, my creative writing teacher in sixth grade. And this really cool dude at my college in New Orleans named Charles Cannon, who taught me a class called New Orleans Mythology My three favorite classes besides my journalism class, and they all hit me, they all hit me up, and they're like, hey, man, saw you said you hated every class. Sorry I couldn't be everything that you wanted me to be.

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  5. Well, yeah, I mean, I didn't drink at all before I had the HPPD stuff, and I would have drank later in life, but definitely like 14, 15 every day after school. I drink a 40 ounce of Mickey's. It's like a, kind of looks like Old English, but the bottle's green and it has a hornet on the side of it. Just kind of became a ritual just to deal with the anxiety of that situation.

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  6. No, I don't really do psychedelic drugs, but a lot of people think that I'm against them, which I'm not just doesn't work for me. If it works for you, I'm sure they can be really fun, especially I know there's lots of therapeutic uses for acid and ketamine and psilocybin, but I personally abstain from those kind of. Anything psychotropic, I try to stay away from.

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  7. Unfortunately, it was kind of the meditative path or the eastern path that I took and kind of fused that with psychedelic culture in Seattle that took me down the psychedelic use rabbit hole in the first place. So I'd say it all started with Siddhartha.

    2024-04-13 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #425 – Andrew Callaghan: Channel 5, Gonzo, QAnon, O-Block, Politics & Alex Jones · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  8. You feel like your soul is not something that is connected to your body, it's something living in your head. It's really hard to explain to people who haven't gone through derealization or depersonalization, but if you go on support groups, they always say like, how do I break free from behind my eyes, like just dark stuff like that?

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  9. Well, I got HPPD around the same time that I began this journalism course in ninth grade. So I sort of always used journalism as a therapeutic mechanism to deal with some of these symptoms, especially depersonalization. There's some pretty good illustrations of what it feels like. Kind of feels like you're trapped behind your eyes or that you're just this like nebulous soul that's trapped in a flesh suit that you're not really a part of. You're sort of puppeteering a flesh and bone skin suit.

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  10. I experience it all the time, you know, but like I said, my job helps with that because I get to feel like when you seek out extremes to a certain extent and you put yourself on the front lines of intense events, whether it be politically or socially or just dive into deep fringe subcultures, you get this feeling that you're real. And being filmed is also confirmation, if you can look at the MP4 file that you're in fact living here on Earth.

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  11. Right, so alcoholism, something that came into my life pretty early. Alcohol abuse as a result of that experience, because that helps with the visual symptoms, make some of the static go away. Tried ben

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  12. PPD creates both of those things. And so when I've talked to people who have the condition, it's really either or, but more than 70% of people with HPPD fall into either category. They're both coping mechanisms for the, I don't know what really happens. I talked to a researcher once named Dr. Abraham. He lives in upstate New York. He's the leading scientists when it comes to HPPD research. He's the only one who actually seems to care about finding a cure. And the only known treatment right now is alcohol and benzodiophenes.

    2024-04-13 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #425 – Andrew Callaghan: Channel 5, Gonzo, QAnon, O-Block, Politics & Alex Jones · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  13. Depersonalization is the feeling that you are not real. That reality still exists. Derealization is the idea that reality itself is an illusion created by your mind and that you're the only person alive and that everything that your brain is projecting to your visual cortex is a lie and that you're the only living human being.

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  14. Snow is definitely in the room. It's all over you. And basically. Wasn't that I took too many shrooms? I think that it was I took about an eighth of semi-essence mushrooms, which are the ones that come from the earth instead of cow shit. And I took an eighth of those at my friend Toby's house, which is a normal amount, but I was in eighth grade. So I woke up the next morning with these extreme visual distortions. And I thought that it would go away. I tried to make it go away, but there was really no cure for HPPD. It's a lifelong condition. So it's just a matter of dealing with it and realizing that it is only visual. So when people ask me, hey, I have HPPD, how do I cope with it? I say, remember that every other sense that you have, what you can hear, what you can taste, you know, your feet on the ground, you're still on earth, you're still here.

    2024-04-13 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #425 – Andrew Callaghan: Channel 5, Gonzo, QAnon, O-Block, Politics & Alex Jones · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  15. That condition is classified by persistent visual snow, floaters, morphing objects. Like I see them right now. I see them all the time.

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  16. As a ninth grader, when I discovered the hidden wiki, I thought that I was really tapping into the most secret society elite level black market in the world. And so if you remember, they had that hidden wiki link that was like hire a hitman. I messaged them and I was like, all right, you know, I want to get someone killed at my school. Like, how much is it going to cost me? And I published my interview with the hidden wiki hitman, who was probably a fed or something. But who knows? And my first article was called like inside the deep web, a conversation with a hitman

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  17. Okay, well, let's step back a little bit. So I had this amazing journalism course in ninth grade. Went to an alternative high school, and the teacher was named Calvin Shaw, and he was just like I ended up taking his class all four years, and he used to let me actually leave school. I didn't like going to school. So he let me basically go around Seattle and do different interviews with people as long as I could come back by the end of the day and write a story for his class. And he'd mark me as present. So the first article that I wrote was about the Silk Road and the Deep Web.

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  18. Yeah, I was making conscious rap music. I was to the point where I had four Dreamcatchers hanging above my bed. Alex Gray painting on the wall. Tapestry on the ceiling, just scribbling rhymes down all the time.

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  19. Well, like my first grade teacher, Mrs. Claudia, this is back in the day, like I was telling you, we just asked her about her life in Columbia and stuff like that. But I didn't really get into actual journalism until my ninth grade year. I had no idea I had an interest in it. Before then, I wanted to be a rapper. It was all about hip-hop and meditation and picking psilocybin mushrooms in public parks and stuff like that. That's what I was into.

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  20. Think so, yeah. I think Sam getting to your head if you spend more than $100 on sunglasses, you've officially gone off a deeper.

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  21. Yeah, but they're really embarrassing. Was on tour, so I just felt like I could do anything as far as fashion choices. But looking back at pictures from myself in that era, I'm like,

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  22. Tried to color match you though. Got the black and white going. I went to Walmart before this and got the Wrangler shirt with the Texas Longhorns tea and everything.

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