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  1. Observe them and start to associate them with positive experiences. You're an Android guy, so soon it should be available on Android. Well, then it doesn't.

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  2. Yeah, so Reverie's good. And then Michael Sealy S-E-A-L-E-Y. He has some long hypnosis scripts. But again, these are all free. And there's a lot of good research now on the neural networks and it shifts your so-called default mode network. It shifts how much of your forebrain you're using. And it also is very, very good. I get so many questions about, hey, I'm really upset. I found out about my girlfriend's sexual past or hey, I'm so upset. I found out that my boyfriend was cheating or, oh, so-and-so died. How do I get over these emotions? How do I deal with them? And hypnosis has shown to be very useful for people to learn to bring themselves into a state of deep relaxation, to literally project in their mind's eye these very intense things that they don't like. And then for people to associate with other emotions in their body, to learn to be calm while feeling your feelings.

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  3. I do. Yeah, I think the one from Made for is quite good. I have an affiliation with them, but it's free, so I feel comfortable mentioning it. I do. I really like the reverie app. And the more you do them, the more quickly you can shift your brain into a state of deep relaxation. I will sometimes stop mid podcast if sometimes our recordings go seven, eight hours, and I'll stop and I'll do a one minute hypnosis. They have one-minute hypnosis inside reverie. You're only going to find that one minute hypnosis is effective if you are routinely doing 10 and 15 minute hypnosis. In addition to that, meaning I do it every other day or so at 10 or 15

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  4. To put me back into sleep. And if I can't sleep, to just put me into a state of deep relaxation, I would put hypnosis under the category of NSDR, Yoga Nidra under the category of NSDR. There are now some NSDR scripts online. If you just go to YouTube that are, you can just listen to.

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  5. I do this morning I woke up a little bit earlier than I would have liked. I use this reverie app that's research-backed REV or RI.com. There's a free version of it, and you can try it for free. So I feel for hypnosis. And I do a self-hypnosis.

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  6. There have been a fair number of cases of people that go and do very extensive meditation silent meditation retreats who then return to normal life and end up killing themselves. There are states of mind inside of extended meditations or silent meditations that are very beneficial. And I'm certainly not suggesting people don't meditate. But I know at least one person who came back from one of these long extended meditation retreats and wasn't able to shift their state back into one that was functional in regular life. And that book includes a very dramatic story. I don't want to give it away in case people check out the book. But Scott told the story to me directly once where someone feels they've reached enlightenment and then commits suicide. So these very unusual brain states are potentially hazardous if people can't return from them.

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  7. But what's remarkable is so much of what he says is about those transitions, about taking oneself from a state of, I don't want to, to scruffing oneself and like you're going to do it anyway. And then being able to carry that into regular life, so to speak. So I think that NSDR is immensely powerful. It's zero cost. And one of the reasons I'm such a fan of people doing it is that most people don't stick to a meditation practice. There have also been a few cases you might find this interesting. There's a book by Scott Carney. I forget what it's called. I think it's called The Transcendence Trap or something. I'm going to have that title wrong.

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  8. Part of the value of meditation and exercise is the actual state that you get into in deep meditation or exercise. But just as valuable is the transition that you have to take yourself through from one state of mind to the other and then back again. When I look, you know, David Goggins, he always seems to come up, but because he represents so many important things, drive, determination, override of emotional state, going from being a 300-pound plus person to a fit person through he's never revealed anything substantial about what he ate or what he didn't eat. He basically says like, listen, run a lot, eat less, right?

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  9. Except in rare cases, right? Fear is one. All of a sudden we hear an explosion right now, it's a step function, we're in fear, or we're in alertness, right? Heightened state of alertness. But NSDR is terrific at allowing people to learn to shift their state. And I actually would venture to argue that.

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  10. So, when you like something, there's dopamine release, and you can focus. It's when you don't like something that's hard to focus, shifting states is hard. I'm sure you've experienced this. If you've ever been in deep research or podcasting, podcasting, and then all of a sudden you go for a run, you'll probably spend the first third of that run thinking. And then in the middle third, you're kind of that thinking is fractured a bit. And then in the final third is where you finally get to relax because the brain doesn't shift states very quickly. We can go from sleep to wakefulness quickly. We can go from wakefulness to sleep quickly, but we don't shift between different states of consciousness like a step function.

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  11. Thoughts or focus on your breath, but then third personing yourself in some respect. And that's work. And so many people who meditate quite intensely feel more exhausted. Now, that doesn't mean that meditation doesn't have any utility, but it's distinctly different than NSDR. And I think that people are working, certainly the CEO of Google, I have to imagine, is working very hard and using his forebrain. If he's going to have 20 or 30 minutes to take a break, he should, and I think this is what he's doing, he should go out for a jog and not listen to anything and just kind of let his mind wander or sit there in a chair and just zone out or do NSDR. The problem is people are not that good at shifting states. We are all actually pretty good at even people with severe ADHD about this can become hyper-focused on things that they actually enjoy because dope, and most of the drugs designed to treat ADHD are drugs that increase the levels of dopamine.

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  12. Yeah, so non sleep deep rest, NSDR is an acronym that I coined because it encompasses a lot of practices that are not meditation per se, but that bring the brain and body into a state of relaxation and focus. So hypnosis is one variant of NSDR. There are other variants of NSDR. You can just look these up and you'll find them. And I think that they've caught on and that the Google, the CEO of Google is an avid practitioner of NSDR because it has this amazing ability to reset your energy levels and focus, whereas with meditation, many people find meditation hard. And part of the reason they find it hard is that it requires focus. NSDR is a state which is very calm and relaxing. You don't have to work too hard. You're just listening to a script. Whereas most forms of meditation, not all, but most forms of meditation involve cranking up the activity in your prefrontal cortex and trying to see your thoughts as opposed to thinking your thoughts.

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  13. They're always getting arrested, and this kind of thing. I think I learned about it from Joe. Anyway, the writing's great. It's very funny. But yeah, comedy is designed to push boundaries, right? And to say the thing that other people aren't feel they can't say. Not something in science, right? Science, you're supposed to etiquette is a big part of how you communicate ideas. It's about constraining communication. This is something I mean, I confess on the podcast in the goals of making it clear, interesting, surprising, and actionable, you have to constrain the amount and the style of information. Otherwise, it becomes something else altogether, right?

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  14. Have you watched that show, the Marvelous Miss Masel show? It's really good. I watched a few of them. Guilty pleasure there. She plays a comic in the, I think it's mid-1960s in New York. And there's a character that somewhat resembles Lenny Bruce. It's meant to be Lenny Bruce.

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  15. Yeah, it was hilarious. It was amazing. I mean, he's just masterful in his ability to command an audience. But I felt for the people up front, but no sympathy either because you buy tickets to sit up front At a shoals show, you know, you're going to get it. But he was very loving.

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  16. If you go to a small comedy club, open mic or otherwise, you're in the shooting gallery, like you're basically there teed up as a pin to get it. We went and saw Andrew Scholz in San Francisco.

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  17. But there, I think in hockey, they call taking a number of a friend who plays hockey. And there's this idea that if someone checks you really badly in one game. You don't go and check them again. You don't get into a fight, but three games later. You blade them in the shin So, what The ability to defer and to handle it in whatever fashion one feels is appropriate.

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  18. Well, there are all these questions, right? I mean, obviously it was aggressive at some level. There's this question of whether or not it was impulsive. I think most people feel yes. There's a question, there was the protective nature of it because he was doing it to, you know, apparently in defense. But then there's also the context he lost touch with the context, right? Whereas Chris Rock basically gets there's the possible critique that he went too far that's going to be in the eye of the beholder. But then depending on how you view comedy and jokes, but then there's also the fact that he took that slap and then just snapped right back so much so that people thought maybe it was faked. He also waited with his hands behind his back.

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  19. Their kind of ground state than we think. And so I'm actually impressed anytime there's a celebrity who doesn't have a messed up life. I'm like, oh wow, you know, finally somebody who's managed to maintain some semblance, at least from the outside, of normalcy.

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  20. Well, and if you look at actors and actresses, I mean, there's some amazing ones, right? And who also do well in the outside life, but their careers were built on the business of pretending to be other people. And that's got to distort maybe positively, but also just, let's be honest, what it is, that the neuroplasticity there, the changes in the areas of the brain that represent personality have to be quite different for somebody who pretends to be lots of different personalities and gets paid for it. You're working the reward system into the system of self-identity. And you have to imagine that that can really contort somebody's neurology in ways that maybe they are not as maybe they are not in touch with reality in the same way that we are. Remember, earlier we were talking about neurotic versus psychotic. They may be more borderline.

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  21. Well, I think, if I may, I started to interrupt. But anytime we observe something very limbic, very emotional, we generally can empathize somewhat. We all know what it's like to feel angry. We all know what it's like to feel ashamed. We all know what it's like to feel shocked. Images of war are for most people very hard to relate to. We see it. you know they're these images and they're very traumatic and challenging to look at at times and yet most people have no idea what it feels like to be shot at or what it feels like to have your home destroyed or what it feels like to be an aggressor in that way so it's very so i think that people naturally orient towards things that feel familiar to them even though the circumstances are different

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  22. No, no, Will Smith. I was wondering whether or not we'd make it the, I had it planned. Yeah. I was literally in the back of my mind. I had it planned that at the end, if we didn't talk about the Will Smith Chris Rock thing, that I was going to say. It's amazing this is the first conversation to happen in a long time that wasn't mentioned. Not pull it up. We don't need to see it. We don't need to see it. Here we go. It revealed some interesting things about human beings impulse control and lack thereof. But, you know, oh my goodness. Chris Rock has a material for the rest of his career.

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  23. I was wondering, okay, wait, how long have we even been recording? I was wondering how long it was going to take us before someone talked

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  24. Yeah, amazing, right? I mean, forgetting the controversy around all the stuff of 2020, 21. I mean, he is an encyclopedia of all things virology

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  25. People to ourselves. But one thing that it made very clear is that there's an enormous appetite for tools for mental and physical health, but also understanding about science and how science is done. So thanks to you, again, I'm not saying this to flatter you. It's true gratitude. There's now a runway for scientists to talk to people. I mean, you had the, I always forget this guy's name, the virus guy from Columbia.

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  26. Well, and you're staying in hotels, your circadian rhythms disrupted, you're not getting your cold and sauna and your workout every day. Your food isn't optimal. I think done in patches, I could enjoy it because it's fun to meet people from different places. I'm doing a public lecture in Copenhagen for the Lundbeck Foundation in June, June 3rd. And that one is particularly gratifying for me because the Lundbeck Foundation is an academic foundation. So the fact that, and then so when they invited, I asked, you know, do you want me to talk about what my lab does or do you want me to talk about the stuff on the podcast? They're like, no, no, not your lab. We want to hear about this health stuff and the stuff that we cover on the podcast. So that was amusing to me and tells me that, you know, things are changing now. I think 2020 and 2021 revealed a lot of things about

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  27. Okay, it made sense to come all the way up here and do this in person because you can get out to a lot more people online. Public speaking events, it's not like it's that lucrative or anything. I mean, unless you're whatever, you're a famous celebrity or politician or something. I'm sure there are people that do well with it, but that's not what it's about for us. It's really about being able to connect with people in a different venue and for interactions like that. I don't know how many of them we will do, but I'm curious to see how it goes. But I'd love to do a podcast with you.

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  28. Well, we did one. I went up to the University of British Columbia and did a lecture on a college campus. And one of the more gratifying things that happens, this guy, this kid in his early 20s, I think, stood up and said, you know, I've never been on a college campus. I didn't think I could go onto a college campus. And I still rings in my mind, whoever you are out there, that meant so much to me because I was like, yes, there was something about that to me. I was like,

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  29. Oh, I think if there were an audience in the room, well, you know what? Someday I'd love to do a live podcast with you. We're just.

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  30. Yeah, he's still there. And, you know, in time, there'll be another dog. And who knows, maybe there'll be a dog and a couple infants running around, but that would be more distracting. But there's no podcast that exists just because of the podcaster. This is true for Joe. This is true for your podcast for me. It's not just a staff of people to post stuff. That's just the top level contour. There's the constant feedback and iteration of what you want it to become. Trying to hold on to something that's essential along the way. Because everything has to evolve, but you can't lose the essence of something anytime a company or brand or a course or a scientist has done that. It just ends up terrible. It just is a, you know, it becomes like a senator version of itself.

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  31. And if you fail to embrace that, you fail to extract the richness of what it is to be a human being. So in any event, I record Rob is in the room. I'll sometimes stop and ask him for feedback if I feel like something's not landing right. So if it's clear, he'll let me know if it's not clear. He'll let me know. Excuse me. And then, you know, Costello used to be in the room the early days of the podcast, which weren't that long ago. He's snoring at my feet. farting and smelling up the room and we're all just kind of like gasping for Aries. He's a bulldog. That's what they do. With him gone, it changed, you know, the whole thing changed. There will be another dog soon. And as you know, Moving through that grief process, but having him there gave me a levity that I miss. But in my mind, he's still there.

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  32. Yeah. If you read Ericsson's stages of development, you realize that every Stage of life is a set of neural circuits trying to resolve a problem. And if you're going to try and avoid that progression, sure, you might live longer. But it's sort of like saying like, Do you want to go win the high school jiu-jitsu championship? No, you graduate high school a long time ago, right? So I actually look forward to the future, even if it means that I'm starting to shift. I think that my biology will shift. I'll fight that. I try and take good care of myself. But I don't want to get sick. I don't want to suffer. Who does, but I'm embracing this whole developmental arc. I mean, we don't We're not children and then adults. Our entire life is...

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  33. I don't want to live past 9095. I'm just trying to get as much done as I can in this short life and do it right and with integrity and heart and accuracy.

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  34. We're just, and I'm aging, man, not surprising. I actually am really, I like, I like aging. It's weird, a lot of people like friends with David Sinclair, and it's all about not aging.

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  35. No, well, it used to be Rob, my producer, who I should say, you know, he's really the person behind the podcast. I mean, first of all, we're equal partners.

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  36. There's certain songs that I've loved so much that I actually won't play them during a relationship until the relationship passes a certain Duration because if you start sharing in those experiences with somebody in the room, And it starts to become associated with the relationship in with the dopamine of a. And that relationship ends, the song is forever tainted. There are certain songs that I will never play in the company of anybody else. They're mine. I just, it's too risky to, uh,

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  37. Johnny Cash and Joe Strummer did a version of Redemption song together. That Rick produced, which is on loop in my house sometimes for hours and hours.

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  38. But in any case, yeah, music and poetry, they're the subconscious, right? I mean, if you think about a Bob Dylan song or a really good strummer song or a poem that the words don't mean anything when read linearly, but they make you feel something, they're tapping into the subconscious. That's really what they're doing. They're pulling on neural threads of emotion based on either timbre or cadence or something that's independent of the word structure. And that to me is the beauty of music and poetry.

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  39. Pretty good. I mean, Joe is an amazing writer, right? You know, I'm also a big Bob Dylan fan, Glenn Gould for classical piano. He was at Asperger's, you know, and actually, I think you can hear him grunting. He had a Tourette's like tick. And I learned about Glenn Gould from Oliver Sachs. So I'll listen to any number of things. It depends on my mood. If I'm feeling a little more tired and I need to be amped up, I'll listen to something that's a little louder and faster if I'm feeling kind of keyed up and I need to bring the cadence down a little bit, then I'll listen to something a little mellower poppier. I love bands like I'm a big fan of this British pop band called James. There's like 20 bands named James, but this one, you know, again, I lose punk points for saying that, but they're amazing.

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  40. Yeah, so I'll, I mean, because it has to be something Joe's voice is what makes the song. Joe's voice is what makes the song. But yeah, that song Burning Lights from I hired a contract killer. I don't know.

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  41. So he obviously is best known for the clash. Most clash songs start off great, and then after about 30 seconds, at least in my mind, just kind of disintegrate into a bunch of mush. Whereas Joe Strummer and the Mescaleros, which is what he did as an adult, as later. And some of his solo work. Yeah, she Rick produced some work that he did with Johnny Cash You know, Rick pulled Johnny Cash out of essentially out of retirement and had him do his albums before he died. And so anything that Strummer did, there's a favorite song of mine by Strummer. It's called Burning Lights. You can find it. There is an album now where you can find it or Tennessee Rain or some of these things that he did, which are a little bit more folky, so not really punk. So I love that song. Bunch of songs by Rancid that I love.

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  42. It's the lyrics, it's not the instrumentals. So I'm a huge Joe Strummer fan, and I'm going to lose punk points for saying this, but I'm not a clash fan.

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  43. Yeah, I've always been very lyrics driven, and I don't understand music. I've talked to Rick about this. I think I've talked to you about this a little bit. I don't really understand, I mean, I can hear music and like it, but I don't really understand the structure of it. But lyrics make a lot of sense.

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  44. I mean, that's the richness and the, I mean, like you said, every third line in there is something that you would, you know, you'd consider life well-lived if you said that, right?

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  45. It's a beautiful book. It's a dreamy book, I think, when people hear that it's a book about neuroscience, they think they're going to get a textbook or a protocols book or something. It's nothing like that, but it really is a deep dive into the mind of the psychiatrist and the researcher and so much feeling and compassion. I love that you love poetry. I mean, I didn't know that until I saw you on Rogan Read If. I'm not a very rabid consumer of poetry, but I'm a big Wendell Barry fan. And I try and read a poem once every few days. Also, I think if is a tough act to follow.

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  46. I think that book took him 10 years to write, which is vindication for me and for you because we're both supposed to write books and we haven't done it.

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  47. We toiled over what to engrave. And then finally, I just said, Mike, just pick something that speaks to you. You're the craftsman. And so he selected that.

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  48. That was the first time on there. And it was a lot of fun in the old studio in Los Angeles. And yeah, Mike makes these beautiful knives. And I have this, I just have great admiration for craftspeople. Do you use it? Do you cut your one meal a day steaks with it?

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  49. And I was like, I love this thing. And Joe said, Oh, yeah, you should check out Mike Jones' work. He does these beautiful knives. And so then I heard your episode with Joe and you recited a poem at the end. It was right after your grandmother died. And there's a line in that poem from If that Mike engraved on that knife for you. So he makes these by hand. I love the old days. Before the podcast and all that.

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  50. The story of this knife is kind of interesting perhaps to people where it was, I was coming out here to Austin to meet with Lex and it was his birthday. I want to get him a gift, but I didn't know what to get him. And I contacted this guy, Mike Jones, that I learned about through Joe, Rogan. Because the first, remember in the old days of Joe Rogan, when you go on the episode afterwards, you take a picture with an object. So it was like Elon with a flamethrower or people would have the axe. I picked up this bushwhacker hatchet thing.

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