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Andrew Huberman

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“That just fills me with joy. And because what it means is that the ideas are reverberating in their nervous systems and will eventually wick out to others. So it's not just about feedback. It's about a venue for parsing information.”
2022-04-17 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #277 – Andrew Huberman: Focus, Stress, Relationships, and Friendship · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“If people were better understood when they were experiencing or observing evacuative projection, the world would be a much healthier and happier place. But it requires a certain stable internal rudder. And when we're tired or sick or angry, we're hungry, excessively hungry, all of us are less good at it. I've been positively struck by the nature of most of the interactions, not just feedback, but my favorite thing as an educator in the classroom, but also on social media. My absolute favorite thing is when the comments about other people's comments are positively reinforcing. So you see people having conversations within the comments. And you realize this is like if you, as an educator, again, you know, it's fun to teach and it's fun to talk to the students, but the real pleasure is in walking by.”
2022-04-17 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #277 – Andrew Huberman: Focus, Stress, Relationships, and Friendship · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, I love that about you. And I know that what you just said to be true, one of the, I think, more toxic things in life is what's called evacuative projection. When people feel something and they try and evacuate it and project it onto somebody else, projection is fascinating, right? What you essentially just said is that you don't accept projections. In fact, you transmute them to put in the language of the Buddhists, you transmute it into positivity. And in that way, you truly neutralize it and transmute it. I think that”
2022-04-17 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #277 – Andrew Huberman: Focus, Stress, Relationships, and Friendship · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Guess it wasn't consistent with what he was trying to say. Of course, he sleeps, but it's, you know, he's trying to get a particular message out. I think people should just understand that everybody's page is their own to moderate, right? Just like in a classroom, there are certain rules, of course, of institution, but then you establish the etiquette within the context of the kind of class. You know, a class about personality psychology or the psychology of love, you're going to have a very different range of conversations than a class on membrane physiology. So I think Social media is a great place for conversation, but it's not necessarily a great place for every kind of conversation.”
2022-04-17 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #277 – Andrew Huberman: Focus, Stress, Relationships, and Friendship · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“You know, I try and respond to comments and I try and respond. But also, you know, there's this really interesting question now if you block people or restrict people. People think that you're somehow afraid of the information that they're posting. But that's often not the case. I'm not in the habit of blocking or restricting too many people. Occasionally we've had to do it only because of how other people are being treated in the comment section. What I can take and what I think other people deserve to take are two completely different things. David Goggins, right, who we both know well. I don't know if he still does this, but a few years ago he posted something like if people ask him, when do you sleep, he would just block them.”
2022-04-17 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #277 – Andrew Huberman: Focus, Stress, Relationships, and Friendship · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“That's good. The goodness, it sounds like. I mean, yeah, I think in any great city like New York, which I love, by the way, you want to have a symphony and an opera house and you want some punk rock shows happening on the lower east side. You want all of that. You just don't necessarily want them to overlap. In terms of social media and then podcast and engagement, one thing that I decided very early on is to encourage comments and feedback, et cetera. But I have in my mind what I call classroom rules. You've taught in the university and then you teach in the university and you establish a certain etiquette within the classroom of the kinds of questions that you'll tolerate, right? So there's always the student that's going to ask a question, which is basically a 10-minute monologue about their experience that really isn't a question that pertains to a lot of people. So you politely discourage that kind of question and you encourage the kinds of questions that are likely to be in the minds of many others.”
2022-04-17 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #277 – Andrew Huberman: Focus, Stress, Relationships, and Friendship · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Wow, yeah, and you broke and you broke tradition with the jacket color. So it sounds to me that you are a free speech absolutist.”
2022-04-17 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #277 – Andrew Huberman: Focus, Stress, Relationships, and Friendship · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Oh, no, no. But interesting choice of examples. No, but I think that people lose careers on the basis of the movement of their thumbs, right? I mean, the chair of psychiatry at Columbia recently lost his position based on a response to a tweet. People can look that up. This is one of the most famous psychiatry departments in the world. And he put something out there that was very insensitive, frankly. And everyone that I talked to about it was like, gosh, that was very insensive not thoughtful at all and he lost his job, right? Or at least had to step down. I don't know the specifics. So, you know, I think I read someplace that more than half of the I mean, not everyone can pull off what Tim Dillon. Oh, and by the way, congratulations. I heard that you and Tim just got married. Yeah, I saw that.”
2022-04-17 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #277 – Andrew Huberman: Focus, Stress, Relationships, and Friendship · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Screaming at employees. I mean, these are anecdotes, right? I call them anecdota because people treat them as data, but they're really just anecdotes. We don't know. I wasn't there. But I like the idea of... Authenticity without oversharing. You're very authentic, but there are aspects to your life that I'm aware of that your audiences will never be aware of. And there are aspects of your life that I'll never be aware of. And so you're still authentic.”
2022-04-17 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #277 – Andrew Huberman: Focus, Stress, Relationships, and Friendship · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, Steve Jobs wouldn't have. Kept his job in acting the way he did in his 20s and 30s in today's climate, but he probably would have updated his protocols, so to speak. A little bit.”
2022-04-17 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #277 – Andrew Huberman: Focus, Stress, Relationships, and Friendship · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Whenever I'm in Kendall Square, I've seen they have those buildings there that actually tilt toward the ground. These are these, the architecture of MIT is also really impressive.”
2022-04-17 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #277 – Andrew Huberman: Focus, Stress, Relationships, and Friendship · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I really like the shift toward possibility as opposed to things that are steeped in tradition. You know, I've never been to high table dinner at Oxford. I'm sure it's a wonderful experience. Also, not sure what purpose it serves for the world, but I've never been, and so I don't know what the conversations are, and so maybe I'm speaking out of line here. And now I'm definitely not getting invited.”
2022-04-17 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #277 – Andrew Huberman: Focus, Stress, Relationships, and Friendship · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Shy personality, an outgoing personality, and all of those can have excellent careers in science, but you have to find the community in place that's right for you. One reason I like Stanford is that Stanford is very much about the future. We have Nobel Prize winners. We have fields medal winners and all that stuff. And their names are on walls and we acknowledge their great works. But most of what you hear about in the halls of Stanford is about what's happening now and what could happen next. It's really about the future. Whereas when I've spent time at other institutions not to be named, you hear that, but there's a lot of kind of recycling and regurgitation of how wonderful people are based on things they did previously. And the students at Stanford, because of Silicon Valley, sure, they have respect for Nobel Prizes. They're delighted to be learning from and surrounded by all these great minds. But they're mostly interested in what they're going to create. And so I kind of, not kind of.”
2022-04-17 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #277 – Andrew Huberman: Focus, Stress, Relationships, and Friendship · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Now exist in multiple realms. I can say these sorts of things. And again, admiration and respect, but I will say that I think it's important that... You can have any personality provided that you're ethical and respectful in science and do well, right? They're true bench scientists that just want to be at the bench. There are people that just want to be in their office. There are people that really enjoy public speaking. And there are people that love meetings. And there are people that hate crowds. And so there's a place for everybody, truly a place for everybody in science. I would like to be able to shine light on the fact that you can have”
2022-04-17 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #277 – Andrew Huberman: Focus, Stress, Relationships, and Friendship · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“The mob well, and the personalities are a bit more grandiose. However, because of some of the shift in science culture in the last few years, things around scandals and things of that sort, they've been forced to tamp down some of their personality, or at least their outspoken personality. And I actually think it's revealed something really important and useful in science, which is, you know, it used to be the case you could really inject your personality into what you do. Richard Feynman's a good example. If he did today, what he did then, bongo drumming on the roof of Caltech naked, working out theorems in strip clubs and things like that, he would have lost his job in moments, right? So that kind of behavior isn't celebrated anymore. It's actually punished. And I'm only half kidding about this New York neuroscience mafia.”
2022-04-17 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #277 – Andrew Huberman: Focus, Stress, Relationships, and Friendship · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“But Yeah, so I have tremendous respect for science done in New York. Don't get me wrong. They are excellent scientists. It's just a very different culture than on the West Coast. And the personalities...”
2022-04-17 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #277 – Andrew Huberman: Focus, Stress, Relationships, and Friendship · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Amazing. And it was only once he became famous from that movie that his more academic work started to receive any kind of attention and he was invited back to Columbia and NYU. The New York Neuroscience Mafia is a real thing. And yes, you know who you are. And some of them are actually coming on the podcast.”
2022-04-17 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #277 – Andrew Huberman: Focus, Stress, Relationships, and Friendship · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Right. That's all. Yeah. There are some academics that are bold and brave. It's not a phenotype. Being bold and brave in the physical world is not a common phenotype of academics. I mean, the great neurologist, one of my, I don't have any heroes, but Oliver Sachs is a true hero. I mean, people think of him as a writer, but he was foremost a neurologist and he took tremendous pushback from the neurology community for doing his books and his articles. He has a great biography called On the Move. There's a wonderful documentary that just came out about him. He died in 2015. I'm actually kind of a collector of his things. But he had tremendous, but he was accused of horrible things until the movie Awakenings came out with De Niro and Robin Williams.”
2022-04-17 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #277 – Andrew Huberman: Focus, Stress, Relationships, and Friendship · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, on a plane, I mean, like, if the thing starts going down and there's truly nothing you can do Might as well at least listen to your favorite song.”
2022-04-17 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #277 – Andrew Huberman: Focus, Stress, Relationships, and Friendship · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Relatively love those guys, love their music. And the song is The Sentence You can only find it on a B-sider outtake. And if you don't know how to decipher Tim Armstrong's voice, then you probably won't understand the lyrics. But because it sung very, very fast. But if the plane ever goes, anytime there's turbulence, I put that thing in. I put the headphones in. I'm like, well, you know, if it's time, it's time. I'm going to go out like this. I don't want to drift off into the galaxy just slowly asphyxiating and freezing to death. That sounds horrible. Like, I wouldn't want to drown or”
2022-04-17 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #277 – Andrew Huberman: Focus, Stress, Relationships, and Friendship · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I'm going to spend the last few. It's a rare song. Nobody knows it. It's a song off a B-track of my favorite band, which is Rance's song called The Sentence. And nobody, and I love it, and I listen to it almost every day.”
2022-04-17 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #277 – Andrew Huberman: Focus, Stress, Relationships, and Friendship · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“That I like to think, I'm not talking about Amanda here, I'm talking about the other people that you're talking about, that I can't relate to. Hearing conversations with and about people that you cannot relate to is informative. Otherwise, your whole mind literally becomes insular, right?”
2022-04-17 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #277 – Andrew Huberman: Focus, Stress, Relationships, and Friendship · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“The world is fascinated by. I'm guessing about a third of people have already decided this person is despicable, why would you ever give them an audience? About a third of people, I think, are open to or at least interested in learning more about them. And then I think the remaining third, kind of the third that the category that I put myself in, which is what can I learn about people and myself, even in my revulsion? Right. What can I learn? Yeah, what can I learn about myself from listening to this conversation with somebody that I”
2022-04-17 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #277 – Andrew Huberman: Focus, Stress, Relationships, and Friendship · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Because it was on television at the time, I followed that Amanda Knox story pretty carefully. And I don't watch television, but whenever I would travel, if there was a TV and the airplane, I would find myself getting wrapped into things like locked up abroad. And these things were, would you make you terrified to travel anywhere, let alone commit a crime overseas, the scenes of some of these prisons are so dramatic. And, you know, I mean, her case got a ton of interest. And then she went and then was a student at the University of Washington and has talked quite openly about how she was treated and how people assume guilt and eventually, you know, she was exonerated. And, you know, we can only go by what we know what the law determined. These are people that”
2022-04-17 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #277 – Andrew Huberman: Focus, Stress, Relationships, and Friendship · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“There's karma, and then there's also having the spine to just put it all on the line and do something for which there is no prior example to hold on to while you go through those headwinds.”
2022-04-17 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #277 – Andrew Huberman: Focus, Stress, Relationships, and Friendship · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Computational neuroscientists down at the SALC Institute, Howard Hughes Investigator, et cetera. So taking risks that other people have not taken is that's a real thing. And to do it with integrity and rigor, that's a real thing. And so, yeah, I'm complimenting you and I hope it lands and lands deeply. But I also hope that people will hear that and understand that it's one thing to do what other people are already doing boldly. It's a whole other thing to launch an entire art form or venue. And you did that. And you didn't write a book, hopefully you will someday, but you didn't go write a book. A lot of academics have written books. You went online. Jordan Peterson, another controversial character. He did it too. All those lectures that he filmed. And then it's led to this other thing. So, you know, it.”
2022-04-17 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #277 – Andrew Huberman: Focus, Stress, Relationships, and Friendship · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I can't wait to talk to him. I'm dying to talk to him. I was supposed to do some course teaching with him right before the pandemic hit, and then it got canceled because he couldn't travel. But getting to him is exceedingly challenging. So you do have this incredible ability to get to people to trust you and know you. And I think it's through your authenticity. And I think it's the fact that you're willing to go places where people haven't been before. What's the saying about Pioneers? How do you spot the pioneers? They're the people with the arrows in their backs. So that's the, you know, yeah. And that's actually a quote that I lifted from Terry Sagnowski, who's a, you know, Terry's, you should talk to Terry. He's a”
2022-04-17 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #277 – Andrew Huberman: Focus, Stress, Relationships, and Friendship · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I listened to it. Great. You took tremendous risk as an academic to do what you did. So I do believe that when one takes intelligent risk, because you can die or can crash your career, you can do all sorts of self-destructive or destructive things when taking risks. You took risks and they paid off, right? And you take different risks at different stages. I don't throw around the word admiration lightly. I mean, I admire that you were in this classroom and in my team. You're like, I'm going to film this and put it online. One of your early interviews with Ito Portal, who's very hard to get to. I've communicated with Edo a few times.”
2022-04-17 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #277 – Andrew Huberman: Focus, Stress, Relationships, and Friendship · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I have admittedly, I have not been taking the classes, but I'm going to. I truly am. Especially there's a small chance I might find myself in Austin a bit more often in the near future. But the”
2022-04-17 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #277 – Andrew Huberman: Focus, Stress, Relationships, and Friendship · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, I would also add that whether or not you realize or not, you took tremendous risk. I mean, we come from the same original community, which is academic science, right? And to be at MIT and to start posting lectures online is risky to, you know, I was third or fourth man in in terms of podcasting as an academic because you had gone on Rogan many times, David Sinclair had gone on there. especially before the pandemic, you just didn't see many academics and scientists talking in a public-facing way. So you took tremendous risk, right? You took tremendous risk always wearing that jacket and tie, right? The only time I haven't seen you in that truly is when we rolled jujitsu, which is, and here I'm being generous to myself saying I rolled jiu-jitsu and basically you choked me out in front of hundreds of thousands. That was really risky.”
2022-04-17 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #277 – Andrew Huberman: Focus, Stress, Relationships, and Friendship · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“You guys had a barbecue. He's from New York. Any New Yorker that I know has very high standards for food because bad restaurants don't last long in New York.”
2022-04-17 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #277 – Andrew Huberman: Focus, Stress, Relationships, and Friendship · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, because, sorry to interrupt you again, but it's what we do, and it's a sign of interest, by the way, sometimes. Yeah, I have a colleague at Stanford, and she said, you know, interruption, 75% of this time is a sign of real interest in what the person is saying, if nothing else. You're very lovable I mean, I learned about hedgehog in the fog from you. You know, when I learned, you know, you're very lovable. People love you because you're lovable.”
2022-04-17 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #277 – Andrew Huberman: Focus, Stress, Relationships, and Friendship · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Rick Rubin is when you first meet him, is intimidatingly calm. But as you get to know him a bit, you realize that the kindness and the generosity that you sense is real. But yeah, I would never in a million years have guessed that you get anxious in conversation.”
2022-04-17 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #277 – Andrew Huberman: Focus, Stress, Relationships, and Friendship · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So, this is interesting because I never detect that in you ever. And I think there are people that we both know that have said to me that they too feel anxious and yet Your voice is steady. I don't see any perspiration You appear incredibly calm.”
2022-04-17 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #277 – Andrew Huberman: Focus, Stress, Relationships, and Friendship · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“If it's true, like the Glain Maxwells and the Liz Holmes and other sociopaths is one of just kind of revulsion and repulsion. But that could also reflect the fact that I'm not as neurologically sophisticated as somebody that can spin all the plates of empathy, forgiveness, but also holding people accountable at the same time. That's work. If you think about that's three four brain circuits having to work in parallel, that's the difference between chess or a game of go and a game of checkers. I guess I'm playing checkers and playing chess.”
2022-04-17 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #277 – Andrew Huberman: Focus, Stress, Relationships, and Friendship · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“To please his girlfriend. So he was in service to other people despite being sociopathic. He could say he was in service to them as a way to extract. It gets very complicated. I think this is the reason I went into science is that at some level, it's more about facts than it is opinions and judgments. And I don't know that I have the ability to suspend judgment over the way from the kind of top level contours of my initial reaction to like.”
2022-04-17 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #277 – Andrew Huberman: Focus, Stress, Relationships, and Friendship · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Johnson, there was a segment in there where he talked about stealing a lifetime's worth of collected coins from some elderly woman. And this was everything she had. And then he openly admitted that he felt no remorse, which is the way he described it is purely sociopathic. And then, of course, we learned that he grew up in a family where criminal behavior was very common. It was kind of embedded into his notions of what typical behaviors were. And I found myself somewhat conflicted, but also hung up on this idea that he was, you know, he had behaved as a sociopath or in a sociopathic way. And it created an internal conflict because he's quite charming guest and his stories are terrific, especially I really enjoyed his discussions about how he would go out and do all these things out of a design.”
2022-04-17 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #277 – Andrew Huberman: Focus, Stress, Relationships, and Friendship · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Not so much. I mean, I would watch that episode with great interest. Well, you did an episode recently with this guy who was a former cyber criminal turned stateside, right? I think he works for the government now. And there was a segment in there. Remind me his name?”
2022-04-17 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #277 – Andrew Huberman: Focus, Stress, Relationships, and Friendship · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I know you've had a longstanding interest in. Talking to him, I think now, well, I don't understand how I would sit down and have a conversation with somebody like that, but that's not in the range of my skill sets, right?”
2022-04-17 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #277 – Andrew Huberman: Focus, Stress, Relationships, and Friendship · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Always get afraid right before you reveal these kinds of things. And now I know why I get afraid. Yeah, I mean, again, assuming that she did the things that people claim she did. Despicable, right? I mean, these were underage children, right? There's just no version of the story where she did the things she was accused of doing and is still quote-unquote good person. There's just in my mind, right? And yet I think there is tremendous interest in understanding what led her to do all that. At least for some people.”
2022-04-17 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #277 – Andrew Huberman: Focus, Stress, Relationships, and Friendship · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Is nothing like the Lex Friedman podcast studio. First of all, when you do them remotely, I always feel like I'm in a witness relocation program. You only get the coordinates at the last moment And you always get the sense that there are people behind the walls that are recording things.”
2022-04-17 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #277 – Andrew Huberman: Focus, Stress, Relationships, and Friendship · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So they do amazing science. They think. They love their lifestyle, that's wonderful. But the culture is very different. Carl and I think Silicon Valley in general kind of prides itself on this kind of monk like asism, right?”
2022-04-17 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #277 – Andrew Huberman: Focus, Stress, Relationships, and Friendship · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“But I find that amazing that these people that are operating at this super high level are willing to actually deprive themselves of a lot of conditions. They're not sitting there with the secretary coming in, offering them espresso every five minutes and things like that. No, no, no. That's New York neuroscience. I'm picking. The New York neuroscience mafia is kind of famous for having all the tickets to the opera and this and that, and they enjoy lifestyle a lot.”
2022-04-17 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #277 – Andrew Huberman: Focus, Stress, Relationships, and Friendship · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Because he's that busy, but he doesn't have the office with the pictures of the kids and the thing and all that. All that is kept elsewhere. So in order to get, I asked him why he work in this office, right? You work on light and channels of light, things relate to light of all things. Here you are in this dark room. He said, well, this is what gets me into the state of mind to be able to do what I want you to do. Very Rick Rubin-ish. Not at all the same person, but very similar in that he's figured out the physical space he needs in order to get into the optimal state to do the work that he needs to do in this lifetime. And it's very unusual, right? If I don't have a window, I kind of freak out. I can do it here for a while. We're in this black cube here, floating in space, of course.”
2022-04-17 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #277 – Andrew Huberman: Focus, Stress, Relationships, and Friendship · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And levels. We were postdocs together. Carl is truly the Michael Jordan, the Wayman Gretzky, five children, amazing marriage to it, also an amazing scientist, his wife, Michelle Mongi's in our neurology department at Stanford, incredible thinker, writer, very kind person, humble. Speaking of getting into state, sorry, Carl, I'm going to out you on this. Carl, despite being at the highest levels of science and engineering and to practicing a psychiatrist. His office is literally a coat closet with a small table lamp. When you meet with Carl, if you manage to meet with him, because he's very hard to get to. You walk in, you sit down as if you're going through some interrogation and some spy novel, and he'll ask you, What are you most excited about lately? And I've got 11 minutes or something. And that's a meeting with Carl.”
2022-04-17 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #277 – Andrew Huberman: Focus, Stress, Relationships, and Friendship · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Intermittently split between psychotic and neurotic. That's why it was called this beautiful work by Melanie Klein that describes this, which I'm just now kind of delving into. But so the borderline is the person who is like, I love you, I love you, I love you, and then truly feels as if they hate you and you become the bad object. Borderlines are challenging for psychologists because of the splitting, right? Schizophrenics are challenging because of the... Detachment from reality. And narcissists are challenging because they're often so charming that even the therapists are charmed.”
2022-04-17 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #277 – Andrew Huberman: Focus, Stress, Relationships, and Friendship · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Oftentimes, because they're criminals, there are certain domains of psychiatry that are more tractable than others, right? Borderlines are interesting. I should just mention because they have this phenomenon of splitting. So in the world of psychology, the idea is that being neurotic is actually the goal. The idea that you could be feel something and then work a lot to overcome it or have some sort of defense mechanism in place, but that's not destructive. That's actually a pretty healthy state to be in. provided it's not destructive psychotic is truly delusional thinking about reality and the idea is that borderlines split”
2022-04-17 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #277 – Andrew Huberman: Focus, Stress, Relationships, and Friendship · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And some therapists won't work with sociopaths because they don't feel any progress can be made. Some therapists will work with sociopaths because for the wealthy ones, they want their money. I think most therapists are good and benevolent, but there's some that will do it just the same way lawyers will work with criminals knowing they're criminals, right?”
2022-04-17 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #277 – Andrew Huberman: Focus, Stress, Relationships, and Friendship · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“But in the case of blood tests and disease, that's serious. I think that the Theranos case was super interesting to me because of the number of people from major universities and from government that both trusted her and the number of people who did not trust her and yet either didn't speak up or no one listened to them. It was only in the forensic version of it that everyone said, oh yeah, I knew that she was lying, et cetera, et cetera. They were lying. There are multiple people involved in those lies, apparently. But I have a deep interest in the neuroscience of narcissism. Aspects of the mind. So, yeah, maybe som They will do a podcast together and be like in the kind of early 90s version of talk shows where we darken the lights and we.”
2022-04-17 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #277 – Andrew Huberman: Focus, Stress, Relationships, and Friendship · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It seemed, and I don't know because I certainly wasn't there, seemed like she sort of adopted this idea that you could get it wrong a bunch of times before you get it right, except if the allegations are true. And I think she was found guilty, I believe, on a number of counts, that a number of the things that they were doing were impacting real world decision making. So Steve's point about the phone, it's just a phone. Well, it depends on the call. If you're calling 911, then it's not just a phone.”
2022-04-17 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #277 – Andrew Huberman: Focus, Stress, Relationships, and Friendship · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source