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1. “Thank you for all you've done well for giving us a president. I mean, I got a little message from President Carter a couple of days ago, and it showed a picture of him kissing Rosalind after Christmas. And so he's still the man that we worked with. I think that your administration made significant progress, but they're still also very young. And politics is not just those who were elected. It's those who were anointed. And I think you were part of an administration that had an anointing for the liberation of America from his racism.”

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2. “I'm comfortable with what I think we took the preaching and teaching of Martin Luther King and we translated it into politics here in Atlanta. And I think we've educated people. We've fed the hungry. We've clothed the nation. And we really need to be planning to do that for the rest of the planet.”

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3. “And we still here we are devoting a whole hour to things that he said and did 50, 60 years ago, 70 years ago. That's the transition that DBA chopra talks about. We think we're... Physical creatures that have an occasional spiritual experience, I think I'm coming to the conclusion that we really are spiritual creatures and that this is an occasional physical experience. And that ultimately. Got the answer to the spirituality. that makes us human. And that's not Democrat or Republican. It's not black or white, American, Hindu, or Jewish. We're all God's children. And we're all going to have to answer somewhere sometime for the life that we live on this earth.”

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4. “No, first thing I said was damn, you can't go to heaven and leave us in hell. And then I realized that it was too late that the bullet was surgically accurate. It set his spinal cord. So he probably didn't even hear it or feel it. It was like The prophet in the Old Testament that went to heaven on a flame and chariot. It was almost like he made a transition immediately. And I realized that There was anybody that deserved a reward. Our life lives. Also, I mean, I'm a New Testament Christian. I don't believe in death And I don't believe that he went anywhere. It's been almost 60 years since his assassination. And there's not a day. His spirit is not active in the lives of all of us.”

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5. “I mean, he would talk about all the embarrassing things he could think of that you might be guilty of or accused of. And so he made us laugh at death as he was laughing at his death. But that didn't take away from. And as long as I knew him, I mean, when we started going to Birmingham in 1963, that was the first thing everybody said. Now, somebody's not going to come out of there. Birmingham ain't called Bommingham for nothing. See, there had been 60 unsolved bombings the year before. So he said, you better get your life in order. And he decided who was going to die. And he'd start preaching your funeral. And that was the way he made us. Face up to death and laugh at it.”

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6. “While I had been thinking about it before he went, he always talked about death and he talked about there being... He says, I know there's a bullet somewhere with my name on it. But he would always turn it into humor. He'd say, but you guys are always trying to get your picture in the paper, and you'll probably jump in front of me and take the bullet from me. And then he would start preaching your funeral and say all embarrassing things he could say. He was quite a comedian. But he would turn the most tragic. Poignant moments in the comedy. And his preaching for your funeral amongst us was more along the order of Richard Pryor.”

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7. “Yeah. And once he went, he decided that he needed to go back and march with him. Well, I think... By that time, he realized that his days were numbered.”

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8. “Sanitation workers strike. And Martin had a weak spot for what he called the least of these God's children. And he had promised the sanitation workers. And, you know, no city can get along without sanitation workers. They're some of the most important people in our lives. Is they keep the cities clean.”

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9. “None of us wanted him to go to Memphis. Because it was a distraction from the poor people's campaign, we were trying to get the movement to Washington. And we saw Memphis as a detour.”

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10. “And that, as he said, truth crushed earth will rise again. And if he did anything dastardly, our former president crushed the concept of truth. That alone will send him to hell if there is a hell. But it's making his life hell now. I just refuse to lose faith in the United States of America with all of his problems, with all of his troubles, all of his weaknesses. They're in all of us. And yet truth crushed the earth will rise again.”

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11. “Work after the next election. He said, No, we got to get to power for the president. We got to get the president some power. And I laughed. I said, I mean, you got a Nobel Prize. It doesn't bring you power in the Senate. But he kept saying, no, we got to get the president's involvement. We get back to Atlanta. Two days later, Amelia Boynton shows up from Selma. And we had never talked about Selma. We knew Selma, but when she came, we agreed to go to Selma on the 2nd of January. By the 26th of March, I think it was Lyndon Johnson was standing up before a joint session of Congress saying, we shall overcome and introducing the Voting Rights Act. It was spiritual power. It was a religious something that Martin was talking about. And I'm one of that still.”

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12. “No, I was with Barton when he went to see Lyndon Johnson in 1964. And he was, Lyndon Johnson was the most discouraged I'd ever seen him. We came in to see him right after McGeorge Bundy and all of the hawks from Vietnam left, and they'd been beaten up on him. It was a different Lyndon Johnson. He was not the voluble, boisterous take charge. He was really depressed. And everything we asked him he agreed with and he said, but I'm sorry, I just don't have the power. That was the one word he said. And he probably said it 10 times in a half 45 minute conversation. When we left, I asked the king, well, what are we going to do? I said, you know, he's right. He doesn't have the power. You need to take a sabbatical for six months and strengthen yourself. Let's go to...”

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13. “Hope of the earth. If this nation doesn't work, the world will work. If our constitution isn't upheld, we as a planet don't survive. It gets me back to being a preacher. And I don't think preaching will help. I think something has to bring this nation to its senses. The storms that are raging are different than they were when I was a boy. And I was in the middle of the storms in New Orleans till I was 15, 16. But they're getting, they're coming up to New York now and Washington. They didn't used to do that. We see the forests of the Northwest destroyed by global warming. They don't want to think that that exists. And there are things that we can do. It's really not too late. But the longer we wait, the greater the suffering is going to be.”

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14. “Inevitable And when you're trying to slow it down, you're only hurting yourself. You make yourself sick. And this is the sickest politics I have experienced. And I got a birthday. I'll be 90. This is the dumbest I've ever seen politics in America. I mean, it's stupid. And when I get in my preacher mode, I wonder how these folk would face their maker. Yeah, but I gave you a seat in the Senate to vote my will. And you did not feed the hungry. You did not clothe the naked. You didn't heal the sick. You shut down Medicare and you refused to expand the hospital system. And you didn't serve my people. You're not older you get, the more you start thinking about the fact that this life has an end. And as Dr. King used to say, okay, how smart you are, how rich you are, you're going to die, what color you are. You know, you've got to face the judgment. I hate to think of what happens to the Senate because I believe that this nation is the”

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15. “Well, it is, but you've never, I mean, the earth is spinning. And you can't roll it. You can't stop it. And you can get off, say, but if you slow down your own metabolism, every cell in your body is in motion. That's the last only thing I learned from biology.”

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16. “They might not in this election. We might lose an election, not two because the business community is too dependent on the thinking that has come out of the politics and the universities of the city of Atlanta. Georgia football is number one. It wouldn't get me number one if it wasn't integrated. And know it, Alabama, know would Jackson, would Mississippi? The South is really on the verge of recovery.”

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17. “Ultimately, I think the South, and particularly Georgia, is going to be led by brain power. And that's these, I mean, it's moving in. There are 4,000 jobs down 15 miles from here that Google just brought in. A Korean company moved into just outside of North Georgia and they're paying $18 an hour for high-tech jobs.”

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18. “I mean, he has kept his weight at 165. We were on the verge of solving a lot of the international problem. They didn't reverse what we've done in Africa, but they didn't keep it going. But what he did in the Middle East, there has not been a shot fired between Egypt and Israel since the Camden David Accord. And there's just so much that could have happened that would have been the fulfillment of the American dream for American citizens of all colors. You know, I still don't give up on these dreams. They're going to happen, and it may not be, as we say in the church, God may not come when you want him, but he's always on time.”

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19. “Because he is genuine. He's humble, brilliant, he's the most disciplined human being I've ever met. And he wants to be, when he read the Bible for say, be therefore perfect as your Heavenly Father is and perfect is perfect. He tried to make it. And I mean, little things like he still weighs the same thing as he weighed when he left the Naval Academy.”

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20. “I went to Congress the same time Joe Biden went to the Senate. And so I've known him since 1973. And he is a solid, determined, disciplined, dedicated, almost saintly human being. And he's been asked to run the country at a time when the entire Republican Party is taking a sabbatical on the job. I don't know how they expect to keep the nation going. And I think the very fact that we are doing so well without them is hope for the future. Now, I don't know what's going to happen.”

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21. “Well, right now, I think we're stuck because Republicans won't be Republican. They're all scared of their former president. And they have betrayed their consciences. They've betrayed their faith. They betrayed their heritage. And the people that we named that were appointed to the federal courts by Eisenhower were all Southern Republicans, but they were some of the smartest, some of the most decent, some of the wisest and best educated men I know. And they saved this nation. Now, they caught hell. They were not accepted by the South, but they didn't have to go up to vote. They didn't have to sell their souls to be a judge. They were free. It seems as though there are some people. Who feels as though they well, I don't know.”

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22. “Yeah. And he'd say, if you haven't found anything you're willing to die for, you're really not fit to live. I wish I could get that message with some of my Republican friends in the Senate.”

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23. “No, yeah. But again, all of those were things that I'd grown up with. Again, from kindergarten, I was taught not to be afraid of death. One of the things I was talking with one of our staff about, you know, my grandmother used to talk about dying all the time. And Martin said that death is the ultimate democracy. Everybody's got to die. Said, you don't have anything to say about where you die, how you die. Your only choice is what is it you're willing to give your life for. But no matter, you're going to die.”

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24. “That was tied up, and I'd stay up at night in the YMZA answering lettuce to Martin Luther King and his secretary would pipe him up. And he started reading what I was writing and he liked it. He started asking me what I researched. If he was going to speak somewhere that he was not comfortable, he'd ask me to look it up and make some suggestions about what he might talk about. So I was sort of not a speech writer because you couldn't write speeches for him. But I was a researcher and a letter answerer.”

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25. “And they received a grant from the Marshall Fuel Foundation to do adult literacy in teaching people to read and write to register to vote. But I was on the staff of my church being paid by the Marshall Fuel Foundation, but I was across the hall from Martin Luther King on Auburn Avenue. And his secretary asked me, would I mind volunteering a little help helping him answer his mail? And I said, no, be glad to. My wife, we didn't have a place to stay, so I was in the YMCA. She went back to her family in Alabama. And so for a couple of months till I found a house, I had just great egg crates full of mail.”

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26. “She had our second baby and we went back south. It was very complicated, but I finally ended up working it out through my denomination that I would be on their staff.”

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27. “You know, we had just bought a house in Queens in an integrated community, a beautiful house. Blessing of that was that we were able to go to, Jean was able to go to Queen's College and get a master's degree for $16 a semester. And so it was worthwhile. I was working with the National Council of Churches and was traveling all over the country meeting with For integration. We saw Nashville Sit-Nory, and it was John Lewis and the students in Nashville. And when the first intermission came, Gene said, it's time for us to go back home. I said, we are home. We just bought this house. She said, no. I said, what are we going to do? She said, sell it. I said, what about a job? I said, what am I going to do? She said, I don't know. It'll work out. And so she got her master's.”

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28. “Montgomery Again, we never talk politics, we never talk civil rights. He had a new baby that was just about not quite a year old, and so did I. And we were doting fathers, you know, with our baby girls.”

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29. “That made him But when we met there, we both showed up and he realized that his wife had gone to us and my wife had gone to high school together. So he invited us to stop by at the house on our way back to Thomasville.”

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30. “Was Kaladiga College, and it was a religious emphasis week. And I said that they invited him, but then they invited me as a backup. By that time, he'd been on a couple of time magazine and everything.”

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31. “In fact, that was the South is quite different, every state and every county. And the main thing is that all these people got along pretty well. Black and white, I was asked by the white community if I would lead the march of times drive in the Negro community. And I had to go to Walmart to be oriented. That was still when the people with smallpox, I mean, polio. Still in iron lungs, but I was there three or four years. My wife was teaching school and we did anything. I mean, I enjoyed it. In fact, when we went to New York, I got a job in New York and my wife didn't want to go. I mean, she didn't want to leave the South.”

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32. “And she said, No, you have to stop and think it's true. And we finally decided we'd go directly to the mayor. And I learned one of my most important lessons. The mayor was not, he ran the hardware store, but he picked up the phone and he called flowers bakery and Sunnyland Packing Company, the two largest employers. And they told him that he had to see the sheriff and make sure that we had the right to have our voter registration drive, but that the clan had a right to have a meeting on the courthouse steps, but confined them to the courthouse territory. Don't let them march in the black community. Well, that was a different kind of south than Mississippi later on.”

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33. “No, in fact, that was one of the revelations from my wife. I wanted her, you know, I was right after the Second World War and Reinhold Never talked about negotiation from a position of strength. So I said to Gene, you go talk to these people, but you sit in the window with the rifle and pointed at whoever it is comes to this house. And she said, I can't point a gun at a human being. They said, baby, that's the cuckoo's clan. She said, yeah, but you're supposed to be a preacher. And I said, well, what's that got to do with it? She said, well, you have to remember, if you ever forget that under that sheet is the heart of a child of God. Got no business preaching. Some slack.”

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34. “It was not a problem for me except that we did have a clan rally scheduled the night before I was supposed to start my voter registration drive. But again, I was not uncomfortable with white people.”

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35. “We were married for 40 years before she died of cancer. We ended up marrying and going to Thomasville, Georgia, as my little country church. The first thing that one of the first persons I met asked me would I be willing to run a vote of registration drugs. And I said, sure. And he said, but you know we're voting Republican. I said, I'm a Democrat. He said, well, you can be a Democrat in Connecticut. But in Georgia, if Stevenson wins, Richard Russell and Senator from Mississippi Eastland get to nominate the judges. They're no white Republicans in the South. And so if Eisenhower wins, we get to suggest the people who are going to be judges. And it was on that basis that I campaigned for Eisenhower and ran about a registration drive in 1950.”

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36. “My parents went to in Louisiana, the first place where they invited me to dinner. Their youngest daughter had a Bible and a senior life-saving certificate and a basketball letter on the wall. And I hadn't met her, didn't know anything about her except a Bible, a basketball letter, and senior life savings. And I decided, well, maybe God sent me to marry this woman, whatever the hell. I”

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37. “I was still, I'd been on the track team and still thinking I might have a chance at the Olympics. And so I planned to go to New York and train with the Pioneer Track Club. And And we haven't been able to send them a minister for the last three years, and it'll probably close if I can't send them somebody. And I said, well, I'm already set to go to New York. And I got a job. And he said, yeah, but everybody wants to go to New York. And somebody will go if you don't go. And everybody wants to go to Olympics. Whether you go or not, they're going to have an Olympics. But if you don't go down to this little church in Alabama, it will probably close down. Well, again, that's one of the things that, again, that second or third thing that nobody else wants to do. So that was the way I had defined my destiny. There's something I can do on this earth that nobody else can do. So I ended up having to say, what the hell? I'll go. And I go down there and realize that this is the same kind of school.”

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38. “It deepened everything. I mean, by that time, see, my life is working out just like it was planned, it seemed. Was almost like, and my New Testament and my Old Testament professors were both Quakers. So I started going to the Quaker meeting and I started reading a lot of the religious documents that were all geared toward nonviolence. And they were devout pacifists. And so that's where I got indoctrinated by the nonviolence. I mean, that's where I started reading it and trying to take it seriously.”

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39. “Well, I walked into the dean's office and asked him, I said, you know, I'm working with a church organization. And I've been to Sunday school. I've read the Bible. But I really don't know anything. Can I sit in on a couple of classes? Most of my work is after three o'clock. And he said, the dean said, well, if you sit in on three classes, I can give you a scholarship. And he said that we have a scholarship here. It's the Rockefeller Brothers Fund for the Negro Ministry. And he said, nobody ever applied for it. And we'd be glad to give it to you if you'd like to enroll. And that's how I got into seminary.”

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40. “So they ended up asking me what I volunteered, and I had nothing else to do. So I volunteered and they sent me to Connecticut. And in Hartford, Connecticut, when I got there, I went to the Council of Churches and they were expecting me, but they didn't have a place for me to stay. So they call part with theological seminary and asked if I could stay in, if they had an extra room or a guest room, I could stay in. They said yes. And I walked on the campus. I'd never been on a seminary campus before. Didn't know what it was like, but I was lucky in that the guys that were coming back to go to seminary were mostly people who had been in the war, Second World War. And some guy said, first guy I met came to me and said, what's a fine looking young fellow like you doing here? Are you running from some girl? Are you trying to stay out of the army? And I said, golly, these are these.”

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41. “Well, no, but they had a program and they were asking these white kids were volunteers for this program to try to get more young people interested in religion. And it was run by the National Council of Churches. And they wanted to make it integrated. And I was the only black person there.”

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42. “Well, for one thing, well, I don't know. I grew up in a neighborhood, I grew up in with Irish grocery store, the Italian bar, Nazi party, was, again, all of my friends as a childhood, as a child in the neighborhood were white. When I went to public school, I had to go to an all-black public school. So I could handle myself in different environments.”

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43. “And he was saying, You're not going to take me here and leave me. So I agreed to say, but when we got to this conference, it was mostly White College, it was all white college students. We were the only black people there. This was 1951. And then most of the white students started telling me if my parents knew I was here with you, they would probably disown me and put me out. I said, well, why did you come? They said, because And all I had the same answer because I think this is what Jesus would have me do. I've never met people like that before, but it was impressive that all of these southern white kids from upper middle class families, back one girl's father was the sheriff of her county, they were all upper class white kids, but they were all very guilty about their racial situation. And they were all trying to get me to help them figure out, you know, how”

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44. “I got home. My church had a new preacher who happened to be a graduate of Yale Divinity School. And he was invited to do Bible study over in Panhandle, Texas. And he was a northerner. And he asked me what I ride with him. He said, because he didn't know how to get along in the South and he was very uneasy. And he would feel better if I would drive with him to Texas to this conference. Well, it was supposedly West Texas here. I assumed it was near San Antonio. My college roommate was from San Antonio. And so I figured I'd take him to the church conference and drop him off and then go spend the time with my roommate in San Antonio. A couple of things happened. One, we didn't see anybody black from the time we left Houston going up north.”

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45. “I didn't know what life for me, but here I was 19 years old with a college degree and knowing not how much I knew, but knowing how much I didn't know and how much more I wanted to know.”

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46. “And decided to run to the top of this mountain. And I was in very good shape. But when you run in toward a mountain, you're running downhill and you end up going too fast. And then I decided I was going to run to the top of the mountain when I was already exhausted. And I made it, but I kind of passed out. When I got myself together and opened my eyes, the world just looked different. And it was the closest thing I've had to a religious experience. probably the only thing I've had maybe, but it just suddenly hit me. Everything he has a purpose. The corn has a purpose. The trees have a purpose. The clouds have a purpose. And I knew just enough biology and botany to understand a little of that. And if everything I can see has a purpose, whoever made everything else could not have made me is the only thing around with no purpose. And so I came down the mountain probably a free.”

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47. “It was one of these accidents. When I left Hollard University, everything was segregated, so you couldn't find a place to stay. And we stopped at a school in North Carolina, in Kings Mountain. And my parents, it was a religious school, and my parents went to the church meetings. I didn't want to go. I went out running.”

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48. “Well, I passed all the courses and I did what I had to do to get a degree. I was on the trip team and the swimming team and had a life in my fraternity. I joined a fraternity when I was 18. But it was a fraternity that valued scholarship, manly deeds, scholarship, and love for all mankind, aims of our dear fraternity. It was Dave Dinkins who came mayor in New York. He had come back from the Marines and was in his early 20s. He was about five years older than me. And he sort of took me on to his wing.”

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49. “Well, I always knew I was a free spirit and a dental office didn't seem like where I wanted to spend my life. I worked in my father's dental office. I worked with his dental suppliers. I knew how to do bridge work and things. I mean, I knew the business. But that was never what I wanted to do. But I didn't know what I wanted to do. I didn't know who I was. And again,”

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50. “That's what my father sent me there for. My father sent me there to be a dentist I majored in biology, but I knew I was not going to be denist, but I was, well, I went there when I was college at 15. And so I didn't have the strength to rebel. Until after I graduated.”

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