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Anneliese Dodds

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first: 2020-09-11
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“No, I'm quite relieved about that, to be honest. Yeah, she's just at school. She's just started, so she's finishing at lunchtime. But yeah, not here today. Thank you”
2020-09-11 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Anneliese Dodds One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“No, I don't think we will, and obviously I believe that I can, and I believe that Labour can collectively persuade people that we can be those good custodians of the public purse, that we can deliver the change that people want to see in their communities and do that in a way that represents good value for money. If I didn't believe that, then I wouldn't have accepted the offer of doing this job when Kir asked me to do it. Obviously, it's a tremendous responsibility. And a number of the people that you just mentioned are people for whom I have a huge amount of respect and I want to learn from. But I'm confident that we will be in that position where people will be ready to trust us at the time of the next election.”
2020-09-11 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Anneliese Dodds One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, to me, I want to. Policies being proposed which wouldn't be helping to advance people's living standards, which wouldn't be targeted at that improvement in our communities, then I'm going to say we'll either go away and do a bit more work and show me how it's going to make that difference, you know, get the evidence and show me the change that's going to be made, or let's look at something else and let's not pursue that particular avenue. And I would say that that applies to spending, but it applies to taxation as well, of course. Quite often people look at tax changes, think they're completely costless, and so many new reliefs coming in, you know, over the last few years, actually, they amount to a lot of foregone public spending ultimately. So we need to have a clear eye on those as well.”
2020-09-11 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Anneliese Dodds One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, I'm not going to go into precise details, but what's important to me is that public money goes where it will be spent in the interest of people in the UK. I think there are a number of examples where we've seen misdirected spending, and we talked about some of those earlier around contracts that aren't delivering, incentives that aren't going to incentivize people being kept in work, that kind of thing. I want to see public money being spent sensibly, but I also want to see better funding of our public services, want us to get out of a situation where so many households are so lacking in financial resilience.”
2020-09-11 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Anneliese Dodds One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I do have some, yes, I do have some friends who have that view. And, you know, I appreciate right now given the way that the Conservatives are dealing with this current crisis, I am concerned that that point of view could become more prevalent amongst some people. But as I've kind of said publicly previously, just being a better communicator, which I think that obviously the SNP leader Nicholas Durgeon is, doesn't in and of itself mean that the crisis is being dealt with that much better in Scotland. You know, the big problems they've had with care homes and testing and everything else.”
2020-09-11 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Anneliese Dodds One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Something that connects with scums? Well, well, no, I would agree with that, Nick, but I would say that actually a lot of people are quite sick of that, Barney, because it just becomes a way of shifting blame between the two elements. So you have the SNP saying, oh, you know, we wish we could do more of our XYZ, but we can't because the London government won't let us. Then you have Westminster criticising the SNP, or at least the Conservatives in Westminster saying, oh, you know, you just need to do things differently. But they don't actually sit down and talk to each other and work this out. They don't actually try either side to get the solutions that are necessary to help people in Scotland. I mean, this is just very frustrating, I think, for people who in Scotland are saying, well, hang on, we just want things to change. We want things to get sorted. We don't just want this barney between the two sides. So I think there is room for labour actually to do a lot more in Scotland to show that we can actually connect with people on the issues that matter.”
2020-09-11 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Anneliese Dodds One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“We can't have a Labour government in Westminster without that victory running through Scotland. You're absolutely right. We really need to do better. I think we've got to show that we're on people's side. We've got to show that we actually understand the problems that they're facing. That means making sure that we're unified. That means making sure that particularly on what's facing people right now really major problems with the Scottish economy obviously very high levels of people being laid off that we're actually standing there with the solutions to those issues. And yeah, it is something that I feel very keenly. Obviously, as you said, Scott, although actually my father's family had some English heritage as well, so I'm a little bit of a mixture, but obviously it is where I'm from. And I genuinely do believe that when we're together as United Kingdom,”
2020-09-11 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Anneliese Dodds One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“You know, there is an approach that needs to be taken during a national crisis that's probably different to that of the normal partisan kind of engagement”
2020-09-11 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Anneliese Dodds One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I mean, I hope that characterization is stolen and boring isn't one that applies. I mean, you know, I think that ultimately there are different ways of achieving change, but the parliamentary way of achieving change is by far the most effective. And I'm no less passionate about achieving that change. In fact, I think it's more necessary than ever. I would say in addition that Clearly the new leadership team within the Labour Party has come in at a time of national crisis. We are facing really difficult circumstances of obviously worst excess deaths levels in Europe, deepest recession in Europe. I mean, to be completely honest, if all we were doing was shouting at the government and not suggesting ways to fix those problems, I think people would naturally be pretty fed up with us.”
2020-09-11 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Anneliese Dodds One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“As I just said, I've got the tremendous privilege of being an elected member of parliament. That means that I can at least try and use parliamentary processes to get change. I feel that's a really critical responsibility and it means that I always need to be looking at whether I'm doing enough on issues of, for example, racism and the climate crisis that we're in right now. But, you know, that's an opportunity that I want to use. I'm not going to say that other methods are the ones that I should engage in quite the opposite because I think we can achieve substantial change in Parliament around those environmental issues. Obviously it was kind of labour last year who managed to get that agreement from government that we are actually in an emergency situation. We got that through government even from a position of opposition. So I think there's a huge amount that should be done through parliament and that's what I'm focused on.”
2020-09-11 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Anneliese Dodds One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I mean, obviously, I was kind of a young age and some of the ways that I dealt with things I'm sure weren't the right ones. And, you know, I'd be the first person to admit to having made mistakes on various things over the years. Absolutely. I still, I mean, now I'm in the lucky position that, you know, as a member of parliament, I do have a platform that I can use to try and make sure that people's voices are heard who don't have that ability to be listened to otherwise. So, you know, I've got that responsibility and that opportunity now.”
2020-09-11 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Anneliese Dodds One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, I certainly, you know, when I believe strongly in something, I'm not going to let go. I'm going to keep pushing on it. And, you know, I've not changed in that belief and that approach, if I think something's unjust, I'm not going to be quiet about it. I am going to try and get things changed.”
2020-09-11 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Anneliese Dodds One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I mean, I'm certainly passionate that we really need to change society. We have to have that better future. You were a student union leader, a strong responsibility. Oh, goodness. A very long time ago. Yeah. I told you.”
2020-09-11 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Anneliese Dodds One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I've been in a lot of contact with Gordon Brownie speaking tremendously helpful and I know that he's very worried as I am about that jobs crisis that we're facing about the level of unemployment that seems to be putting through into the UK economy and particularly the fact that it looks like we're going to have major cliff edges when that will get worse right across the economy all at the same time so yes I mean obviously he is concerned about this and he's drawing on his experience from the previous crisis”
2020-09-11 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Anneliese Dodds One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“No, because I want him to not with respect, Nick. I don't want him to be underestimating the cost of unemployment because we can still see now the impact of some of the waves of unemployment that have happened in different communities. Talking about some of the pit villages, et cetera.”
2020-09-11 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Anneliese Dodds One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“They've had a spell of unemployment, so you know, as you'd anticipate, I have asked the Chancellor to reveal his modelling around the cost of all of this. So you can work out what your plan should be.”
2020-09-11 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Anneliese Dodds One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, I think we're in a crisis situation, and that's different to the day to day. There's no question about that. But just to be very clear, I don't think this debate is just about the quantum of public spending. I really do think it's about where that spending is targeted and actually, you know, we're seeing a lot of public money being directed into, you know, for example, contracts for delivering test trace and isolate, which sadly is still not working to the extent that it is in other countries. We've got jobs retention. bonus costed it you know over 9 billion which doesn't look like it's going to incentivize companies to keep people on you know there are very big questions about where that spending's directed and now actually if we see that continuing hemorrhage of jobs occurring and intensifying into the autumn that's not cost free obviously that will imply cost for social security it reduces people's ability to earn into the future”
2020-09-11 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Anneliese Dodds One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, this is a period of crisis, so I think any comparison with normal times perhaps is quite difficult to draw, if I'm honest. Every nation across the world is having to engage in high levels of spending to deal with this, to deal with the health imperatives, even aside from the economic ones. So personally, I think that we do need to look at this through a different lens. But, you know, I would say it's a different lens.”
2020-09-11 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Anneliese Dodds One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“There's at least a strong chance that we will be in a better situation public health-wise next year. In that case, to have knocked out a whole lot of economic capacity now that could have been kept going so that it can return to strength again once we're in that better public health position just simply doesn't make sense, that doesn't make economic sense. And lots and lots of other countries are taking a different approach to the one that the UK is now.”
2020-09-11 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Anneliese Dodds One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Obviously, I want to see new businesses being created. I think actually there's a lot more that can be done to promote that. But we're in a very different kind of economic situation now because of the nature of this crisis. I mean, to state the obvious, I want to bore listeners, they'll be aware of this in space. I mean, very obviously this is the first time when we've had government actually closing down different sectors, when quite rightly, you know, for public health reasons. So it's a very sectorally concentrated crisis, one which is likely to have that concentrated impact for as long as we have social distancing measures in place. Now, it's possible that we may be in this kind of situation for a longer period than we all hope. It's possible that we might not get the vaccine technology that we need. I fully appreciate that.”
2020-09-11 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Anneliese Dodds One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“At the same time, right across the economy because this support is being removed across all sectors at the same time. So having a targeted approach, not one that says we should keep the furlough scheme as it is for every single person who's on it right now, but a targeted approach, you know, doing what the government did when they set the scheme up, when they talked to business groups and trade unions, other stakeholders and saying, right, let's identify those sectors of the economy that are particularly hard hit right now, that are particularly crucial to our economic future, and let's do what other countries are doing. Let's recognize we need to have some wage support in those industries. Doesn't mean people not working actually would mean in many cases people working for some of the week, but then having some government support so that those jobs don't disappear. Because if you think about some of these advanced manufacturing jobs, once they've left the UK,”
2020-09-11 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Anneliese Dodds One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, I think with respect, that argument might work if we were talking only about people in situations where there's no viable future for their job after this crisis. But the reality currently is that if you look at, say, arts and entertainment, I think it's about half people working in that sector have been furloughed. Huge numbers of people in advanced manufacturing have been furloughed. Very few economists, I think, would say that we can afford to lose substantial parts of those industries from our country for a long-term economic prospects. And the danger with what's happening now is we're not seeing the really strong growth of vacancies coming back into the UK economy, but we are losing very large numbers of jobs, very, very quickly. And it's happening obviously at”
2020-09-11 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Anneliese Dodds One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, I don't think people have done something wrong. But I think the flip side is we've got to reflect more of the facts in, you know, obviously in my current position, I talk quite a lot to people who do have substantial resources. And a lot of the time they'll say to me, look, we want to be able to make a contribution. You know, they recognize we're part of a society. My goodness, current crisis has brought that home to all of us. And so having a view of communities and different places as making up our economy, not just individuals, I think is really important, actually.”
2020-09-11 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Anneliese Dodds One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I'm not sure that the word filthy is helpful here because that implies a kind of connotation that that money then isn't being spent in a kind of sensible direction for people.”
2020-09-11 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Anneliese Dodds One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I'm always aware. I mean, you know, we're talking right now a lot of the time about key workers and always say, well, let's reflect the fact that actually a lot of businesses have really stepped up to the plate to help in this great period of crisis that we're in. It's not just the public sector, it is a lot of the private sector as well.”
2020-09-11 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Anneliese Dodds One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I mean, certainly. Well, I think he said to me kind of in his later years, he said, well, I could see that you weren't very keen on doing it. Perhaps I'm not saying that I would regret that now because I feel the job of an MP is the best job in the world, actually. But I guess what I learned from him, I think that people's picture of business and how it's represented in the media a lot of the time just doesn't match reality at all. You know, actually businesses are social organizations, you know, particularly small businesses. My dad had a number of the same staff for very, very long time indeed. They had their different personal situations that he kind of supported them through. He wanted to do a good job. He was really passionate about that and wanted to support local community as well. And I think a lot of businesses actually operate like that.”
2020-09-11 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Anneliese Dodds One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I learned quite a lot from him, obviously not enough to decide to go into his business and I'm kind of acutely aware of that.”
2020-09-11 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Anneliese Dodds One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“No, I don't think so, Nick. No, really, because I don't think there's a causal link between saying, right, fine, if whoever closed all private schools and automatically we'd end up with a situation where all state schools were, you know, fully resourced and all that kind of thing, there isn't that link. That link doesn't exist.”
2020-09-11 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Anneliese Dodds One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, I think when we have that kind of theoretical discussion, you know, people immediately say, oh, this is about kind of destruction rather than building something better. As I said, I want a situation where all parents can feel that by sending their child to the local school that they're getting the best education possible.”
2020-09-11 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Anneliese Dodds One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I'd never be critical of anyone for doing what they think is best for their children. But, you know, as I said before, what I want is a situation where everyone feels that their children are getting the best chance possible.”
2020-09-11 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Anneliese Dodds One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I mean, I wouldn't want at any point to be kind of critical of either an individual school or teachers or anything like that. It was obviously, as I said before, it was my mother's decision that she wanted me to attend that school. I mean, it was an interesting situation because it had been entirely a boys school. So girls were only just being admitted. And, you know, I'm not going to kind of criticise my mum for deciding that was where she wanted me to go. I mean, you know, I really would like us to be in a situation where every single school has the kind of resource.”
2020-09-11 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Anneliese Dodds One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“No, no. I'll tell you what, getting a lipstick off some of them, that's quite a difficult thing. But anyway, back in that time, there wasn't a minimum wage. So, you know, it got me thinking about some of those issues. I mean, I was in a lucky position because I kind of was doing relatively okay academically. So, you know, I could see that hopefully I'd be able to go to university, that kind of thing. But of course, lots of other people weren't in that situation still having to do that kind of a job without that kind of income protection. And then obviously did go to Oxford University and there again, you know, I could see that there were lots and lots of people who could have benefited from the kind of education that I was privileged to then receive at university who hadn't had that chance. So did a lot of work on access to university and continue to do that.”
2020-09-11 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Anneliese Dodds One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I didn't have any plan to become an elected politician as my career at all for quite a long time, as you mentioned, I was an academic, worked as a lecture in different universities. But I suppose I always felt when there were unjust situations that they needed to be sorted out that I needed to speak up about them, I suppose. My first job was as a kitchen porter, always that's my only transferable skill washing dishes, very good at it. In fact, I washed so many, I actually started dreaming about washing dishes. Washington's men.”
2020-09-11 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Anneliese Dodds One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, I think, you know, back in that kind of time, there's things like, you know, for example, it was very common sometimes for people to be expected to, I'd be a Freemason. And that was something that my father really didn't like secret associations like that. He felt everything should be in the open and he had his own special way when someone tried to do the handshake whether he had his own special little way of twiddling his fingers to kind of take the mickey out of them. I think he really felt that things should be done above board. That was very important to him and it's important to me as well actually.”
2020-09-11 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Anneliese Dodds One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, he was quite an irreverent character as we relatively recently, but he was a small businessman and created his own company, as you say, in accountancy, eventually grew to two offices in the northeast of Scotland. And I think really wanted to do things his own way. And when he saw things that he didn't agree with, he would say so and didn't hold back ever.”
2020-09-11 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Anneliese Dodds One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, my parents weren't political. My dad was someone who certainly wasn't keen on illegitimate authority at all. So, you know, he was someone who I suppose was political with a small P, certainly had strong opinions. But, I mean, it was actually my mother who was keen for me to attend that particular school. I mean, her background was pretty much working class background growing up in, well, in fact, she was born in Dundee and then grew up in Aberdeen and she viewed that as a way of ensuring, I suppose, kind of social progression. So it was kind of driven by her. That was her decision. I kind of respect her decision rather than it coming from my father, really. I guess kind of different traditions in my family from that point of view. I mean, both branches in terms of my mum and my dad had connections with the fishing industry. So I certainly feel that kind of...”
2020-09-11 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Anneliese Dodds One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“We're not going to do it straight away at the top. I guess hopefully I would want people to feel that I really care about improving things. I really care about people's living standards. Look around me and see a lot of people who should be able to get on but who are really struggling, not through any fault of their own.”
2020-09-11 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Anneliese Dodds One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I think that before we embarked on doing this podcast, we had a little bit of a previous conversation and I said my background is kind of Presbyterian. We don't like talking about myself, you know, that kind of hatred of talking about yourself or indeed money or sex or anything like that. We're coming to sex later.”
2020-09-11 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Anneliese Dodds One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, my daughter came in. I thought she was still asleep, but she came in and thankfully sat underneath the chair. As always, it could have been a lot worse. At least she had a pajamas on at the time. Yes, like lots of people obviously having to work at home and, you know, we do have the luxury living in ex-council house with quite a lot of space for a loft conversion. So yeah, normally up here doing anything from home on the telly.”
2020-09-11 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Anneliese Dodds One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source