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Annie Macmanus

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  1. It was constant. I'd get hammered. I'd be like hogging people. We'd have after parties and then after after parties, I'd get no sleep. I'd fall asleep in Abitha airport face down, waiting for the flight. I had the best time. But then life catches up with you when you have kids and you grow up and you have other priorities. So fast forward 10 years, I'm DJing to people who are the same age, but I'm thinking about what I'm going to put in the school lunches the next day.

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  2. Excited enough for what this is. I don't feel like I'm serving my audience right now in the right way. I'm not on their level when it comes to how excited I should be about what this is. So that was a conscious decision to take myself out of that and be able to have someone replace me who serves them and who are at the peak of their fucking excitement about, you know. That. And I still love broadcasting, I still want to broadcast, but it would be in a different way. With regards to DJing, I feel like The problem with DJs that they always say is that the DJs grow up and the crowds stay the same age. And that's what happens. You feel yourself growing and growing. So when I started out DJing, I was flinging myself in the crowd. I had a problem with crowdsurfing. It was like, stop fucking crowdsurfing, Annie.

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  3. I think it's like it's It's basically the only cost is a feeling of stagnation, I suppose. And stagnations may be a strong word, but everyone will relate to the feeling of the word coasting, right? When you're coasting, I guess I was feeling that a little bit at the BBC. And especially with DJing. So there are two very different things, but with the BBC, I felt... I mean, I loved my job and I'm so grateful for it and all of that. But I think I did feel a little coasty. I felt like I was coasting a bit, you know? And there's a point where you feel like I should be more grateful for the fact that I'm getting sent brilliant music every week and I get to play this on the radio, but I don't feel.

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  4. To listen, to listen to how you feel about life, to listen to when things feel a little wrong or to when you feel unstimulated, you know, to come back home at the end of a week, a working week and say, I didn't feel remotely excited or stimulated about what happened that week. Okay, what can I do to change that? How can I tweak things? Do I need to zoom out and really look at my general career? Is there different things I can do? It's that. It's constantly checking in with yourself all the time. Can lead to small incremental changes, but also really big, big ones, which I feel very excited by.

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  5. Open about what they do and encourage them. I mean, it even happens now with kids, you know, you can't force them to do things to play football if he's not into football. But if he's decided he really wants to kind of do hip-hop dance, well, come on then, let's go do hip-hop dance. It's kind of, it's the same as adults. You can't force yourself to do something. But if you feel a pull, you should be able to do that. And the only way you feel those pulls is to be able to listen to yourself. So you have to check in with yourself. You have to give yourself the headspace and the time to really allow yourself to

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  6. And I love that idea that you should be able to completely put, you know, obviously there's a privilege in this. You know, I'm not assuming that everyone could just drop their jobs and go and get another one. But if you are able to afford the space and the time to do that, I think it's so good Being alive to learn. This is why I figured out everything's about learning, basically. Everything comes down to learning. That's when you feel the most alive. That's when you feel the most stimulated. That's when you feel most connected to yourself is when you're learning. So for me, I just want to keep learning. And very much with my own experience now, I have two young sons that when they are growing up, I'm going to try and be very...

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  7. Completely, I couldn't agree more. I think I think the world can be terrifying sometimes, and I think it's comforting to be able to put a label on yourself and feel like you're part of something, a community, a tribe, a vocationary, you know, thing, and also to, as you say, to be understood by people Crew Leith came on changes and talked about how she very much believes that you should have a revolution every 20 years in your life. And I'm obsessed with that now because I feel like I'm going through that now, you know, in my 40s. I'm going through my second revolution.

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  8. Like, for me, it felt like convenient because I had this experience that was good. And it was like, okay, well, that's grand. I'll just do that as opposed to really kind of thinking it through and coming into it.

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  9. A really good question because I ask myself that recently because I actually interviewed Anne-Marie Duff on my podcast and that happened to her. She didn't get into acting college and she went back and she tried again. I think that maybe I didn't want as much as I thought I did. Basically, like I'd been a lead in the school play and suddenly I was like, that's it. It's destined. But I hadn't done any acting experience. I hadn't done any amateur theatrics. I hadn't done anything like that. So I think I was feeling a little lost. And I think a lot of the time in school, there's a pressure to pick a path. What are you going to do when you grow up? What are you going to be? Where, you know, what's your vocation? It's ridiculous to ask an eighteen year old. We know that as adults, that life changes, life zigzags. You change all the time.

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  10. Looking back Know sometimes the things that you don't get end up being the best things that you've ever gotten in a way. Like if you mess up, if you fail, if you don't get what you want, that can end up being the best thing that ever happened to you. And that's very much what happened to me. I had one path. It didn't work. I had to turn left. And it meant then that. I was able to kind of very slowly and organically feel out how I wanted to live in the world, what made me happy, what did I love? I loved music more than anything. I loved talking to people. I loved interacting with people. I loved connecting with people. What happens when you put music and connection together? Radio, music radio. And it was that simple. It was such a simple, rudimentary equation. But I made that equation and I was like, okay, that's where I'm going to go.

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  11. All of the baggage that comes from growing up in Dublin, you know, everyone wants to know what school you go to. Oh, do I know your mom? Does she teach at that school? You know, all of that is gone. I was a completely unknown person. I had a clean slate. I could build my identity from scratch and figure out exactly who I was in this new world without the kind of, I suppose, the not constraints or even baggage, but just without all of that stuff that came with me in Dublin, the family connections, the school, all of that. So it felt really, really scary, but also really exciting. And they were, honestly, three of the best years of my whole life. I've found friends. I've found a new family for myself in that way and figured out what I wanted to do slowly over the course of three years, found the career that I wanted, which was radio. And I always think like...

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  12. When I look back, the more I think about her, the more I think she guided so much of my decisions very quietly, you know, never any pressure or any, you know, just suggesting. So I did leave home. I got out. I went to the island of Ireland, but it was technically another country. It was the UK. It was Belfast. And it felt completely different from the island I knew. And it was completely starting again. I didn't know anyone. I was living in a halls in this room with someone I'd never met. And I had to start from scratch. And it was kind of cool because it meant that

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  13. And it's actually my mom who really helped me out of that rut. She was the first person in her family to go to university. She went to Queens. And she suggested I go there and apply through clearing. And at that point, I was desperate. I didn't know what else to do. So I went up to Belfast, which is about two hours north of Dublin on the train. And I got in there through clearing and did English literature there. So she helped me find my way out of that rut. She was always a very calm presence in the background, always very wise and calm and kind of.

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  14. Not really well. Sorry. I was always kind of, I was just average. I did grand in school, but I succeeded at other things. I was good at sports. I was in the choir. I was kind of like proactive and involved in lots of things. And everything that I'd kind of wanted at that point had gone my way until this point. And I was like, well, like it's so ironic. I was actually voted the person most likely to be a movie star in my year. I was like, it's tested. I'm going to be in a movie. It's like this is easy. I'm just going to walk into this course and do it. And then just didn't get in. And it was a real rejection. And something that I hadn't experienced before.

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  15. Well, I really wanted to be an actress. That was like my one true love and that I kind of put all my eggs in that basket. Now I did apply for an acting course in Dublin with this very prestigious university, it's Trinity University. So uni, that's in normal people. That's how I call it now. But I didn't get in. spectacularly veiled the audition that classic kind of went to go and do my speech it was soliloquy at the end of romeo julia and like froze like couldn't the words just didn't come you know awful went home chopped all my hair off had hair down to my like to my lower back chopped it all off came home with hair like that long gave my mum a plastic bag with my ponytail in it and was like that's it my life's over basically i didn't get into the chorus i'm you know i was such a drama queen steve clearly but um my life at that point i'd kind of like i i'd done really well

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  16. Was no gay marriage, there was nothing like that. But in my lifetime, I've been incredibly lucky because Ireland has changed hugely, irrevocably and publicly voted for all three of those things, divorce, abortion, gay marriage. And it's become a way more kind of outward-facing country. But I suppose when I was growing up, still it felt very closed. It wasn't really that outward looking, I don't think. So I felt very eager and curious about the world, everything I knew about the world was through the face magazine or NME or TFI Friday. So I was just curious to go and see it basically and get out. I really wanted to get out.

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  17. I mean, there was so much, you know, corporeal stuff, so much about your body and the change that your body was going through and were you thin enough and were skinny enough. You know, I grew up, I was born in 78, so I was a teenager in the 90s, you know, heroin chic, Kate Moss, you know, low-rider trousers that hung off your hips. That was, you know, like rib cages on show, all of that. So, I mean, it was very hard not to become consumed by what the, you know, the magazines and, you know, the music videos and all of that are kind of showing you. So of course there was shame. I think in Ireland you grow up around shame. There's a lot of shame in Ireland as a country. I think it's kind of passed down generationally. I was brought up like Protestant. So I went to kind of a Church of Ireland church, but Ireland is, you know, the majority of Ireland is Catholic. So there's a lot of shame in that. When I was born, there was no divorce, there was no abortion.

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  18. Yeah, I'd say that they're both in me quite a lot. My father is an extrovert. He loves people. He loves his friends. He loves chatting to anyone he can chat to. So I very much got that off him. My mom is really bookish and really smart and very gentle. She kind of she parented with real kindness and a real sense of selflessness. She was just soft and gentle in a way that the more I look at now as a parent, I'm just kind of in awe of, especially with four bonkers kids bouncing around the house. I don't know. I think my friends have said there's an element of me that's strong and also an element of me that's sweet. And I think maybe that's one parent in each of those.

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  19. I think, like, just, you know, there was never any trauma in our house or anything like that, but it was definitely just a loud, busy house. And, you know, for teenagers in one house is a lot, you know, there's loads of arguing and stuff. So it's easy to take everyone takes a role when you live in a house like that. And my role was to keep people sweet, basically. And as the youngest, it was easy because I was that kind of, you know, I was the one that everyone, I guess doted on a bit. So it was easy to play that role.

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  20. I think it's become useful later in life, especially in my professional life, because I literally chose a job that was to be a conduit of joy. That was my job on Friday nights on Radio One for many years is just to spread the kind of magic and joy that music can give, you know, this euphoric feeling, I was that messenger. So I did find a job that led to me making use of that skill, I suppose, if you could call it a skill.

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  21. and still am So I've always been around people. I've always felt a kind of sense of being part of a group, a big family, which gives you that feeling of safety, I suppose. The other thing I would say is that I've always, and you kind of notice this as you get older and you go home and you know you regress when you walk in your front door and you become a teenager again, I've always noticed that I am a bit of a pacifist, sorry, a pacifier, a diplomat. I like to try and keep the room happy. You know, I like to try and keep the equilibrium between people. So I'll become a joker, I become an entertainer. I kind of, I like to try and make people happy. So that's another thing I've noticed.

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  22. Probably that I grew up around a lot of noise being the youngest of four. My mom had four babies in five years. So we were all very close together. You know, we were, I guess, I don't know how you would maybe lower middle class. I was born in a housing estate, my claim to famous, the first baby born in our housing estate, semi-detached. My dad worked in England from Monday to Friday. So he was away a lot. So my mom kind of raised us in the weeks. I was surrounded by love And because I was the youngest kind of allowed to grow up without too much fussing, without too much disturbance, I was allowed to figure out my own likes. And I was hugely influenced, of course, by my older brothers and sister.

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  23. There was a lot of pressure being female in what was essentially a man's world. It's a horrible feeling, isn't it, when you don't feel like you can do anything good enough? It became this kind of feeling of the wolves closing in. I should be more grateful for the fact that I'm getting sent brilliant music every week and I get to play this on the radio, but I don't feel excited enough for what this is. I felt like I didn't want to be needed by so many people anymore. Takes time to feel at peace with yourself to just walk away.

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  24. I was a teenager in the 90s, heroin chic, Kate Moss. It was very hard not to become consumed by what the magazines and the music videos are kind of showing you. I'm obsessed with how much you weigh and what you're eating and all of that. I really wanted to get help. I loved music. I loved talking to people. I loved connecting with people. What happens when you put music and connection together? Radio I was not ambitious and I wanted to get bigger. I wanted to try everything. I felt like I wanted to prove a proof.

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  25. Fiercely wanted to prove that I could do it all, but I realised quite quickly that doing it all wasn't always cracked up to be.

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