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1. “There probably is. But, you know, one of the challenges we have in terms of thinking about things this way is that the decision-making is so fractured in transportation. You know, you go to a place like Singapore and it's a federal system, France, a federal system. So they decide they want to build a train. They build a train. They want to build a highway. They build a highway. A lot of the facilities, the hard facilities are built federally. In our system, they're really built at the state and local level. And a lot of the decision making around service provision is happening at the local level as well. So in other words, I don't have the ability to change the approach that the service providers are doing. It's more of a state and local issue.”

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2. “But they're community builders. They're building community with every single thing they do. And it's not just us, it's the folks at the state level and local level who are doing a lot of the planning work as well. And if we plan for a community that's whole, that brings everyone to the table and creates access points for everybody and maybe even put in assets in communities that have historically been underserved to help lift them up a little bit, that we're actually bringing the country together in ways that we've needed to for a long time.”

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3. “To help bring people together. There's a reason why people talk about bridging divides. They're using transportation metaphors to explain what, in fact, we can do on the ground and bring people closer together. So to me, what I've tried to preach at the department is that we don't just have engineers at the Department of Transportation. A lot of people have engineering training.”

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4. “Know it probably gets back to my own life story and growing up in Charlotte. Again, not in what is the most privileged part of the city being sent to schools under a busing order following the Swan voard of education case, being one of the first members of my family to go to integrate at schools and to live at that time in my life with the expectation that we really are all equal. We really are the same. And the differences between us don't matter as much as the similarities. And then you fast forward into the world we live in, where there's so much conversation about urban-rural divides and racial issues and so forth. You know, I think we have an obligation as a transportation community.”

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5. “And so increasing access to transportation, we talked about this a little bit already, but that was a focal point for you. You've written columns about it, and a lot of it comes from your background. Why was that something that you thought that you needed to push forward?”

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6. “So that's, I think, the trade-off we have to get comfortable with to make these more prominent in our culture. But I think there's room. I just, you know, again, I think it's probably more like 10 to 20% of the infrastructure deficit, not 100%.”

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7. “Yeah, well, the traditional model for transportation is the public buys it and the public owns it. And when you start talking about public-private partnerships, as you've already said, that means that we're now financing. We're now borrowing money somehow from the private sector to get a public asset in place. And I think where the shock value to the public comes in is when they realize that someone's making money on what they believe to be a public asset. Now, the reality that we are now facing is that our infrastructure deficit is so substantial that the public purse has fallen so far behind that we're now trying to play catch up. And so the other side of it, if you're just a general member of the public, is one has to ask, would I get this asset just using public dollars? In many public-private partnerships, the answer is no.”

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8. “Right. And so, how does this affect the talked a lot about public-private partnerships just even during your time as the DOT secretary? How does this affect the tax base and the revenue for either local governments or the federal government?”

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9. “Yeah, it's a great question. And because that sense of decisions happens more at the state and local level, we don't tend to get involved in the service provision part of it. Although we are now launching a pilot called Mobility on Demand, where we are actually experimenting with our stakeholders at the local level to see what partnering with ride sharing companies can do to cover last mile challenges. But when we partner the partners, all the folks that are involved in the pilot have to follow our rules. So they can't discriminate. That would not be an appropriate use of federal money. So I think the more there is public investment in some of these partnerships, you're going to see the regulatory strings come with it. And there may be situations where some of the ridesharing services decide not to partner because of that.”

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10. “And so, I mean, how do you protect against? For example, for Uber and Lyft's case, there have been a couple studies about discriminatory practices on the platform. And so if local governments are now subsidizing Uber in place of public transit, I mean, how do you prevent against that kind of inhibiting access to transportation?”

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11. “Put some of the burden of getting that deficit closed into public-private partnerships? The answer is absolutely you can. And I believe that. I don't actually believe it's 100%, though. I think it's probably more like 10 to 20%. But if you could get the private sector to foot the bill for 10 to 20 percent of the overall gap, that's more than you would have had otherwise. And so what we've done at the department is we've tried to build the infrastructure to accomplish that using The consolidation of our innovative credit programs, creating a new bureau that's a one-stop shop for projects. It used to be that if you wanted to do a rail loan program we call RIF, you had to call the Federal Railroad Administration. And if you wanted to use our TIFIA program, you had to.”

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12. “A really good question, and as a local official for many years, I was part of a lot of public-private partnerships. Sometimes we could actually get infrastructure paid for by the private sector using devices like tax increment financing and other transit-oriented development type of strategies. Look, I think if you took the entire infrastructure deficit and you said, okay, can we?”

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13. “Cost effective way to fill in the gaps that public funding and federal funding can't fill. But at the same time, there are, of course, inherent disadvantages. I mean, where do we draw the line so that public agencies, civilians are not becoming over-reliant on private companies whose ultimate driving factor is obviously the business need, they're making money.”

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14. “Okay, so let's talk about public private partnerships. I know that's often talked about in the context of bridge building and highway building. But we're seeing increasingly a lot of local governments partnering with companies like Uber. Sort of fill in the gap of public transit. The advantage is, oh, Elaine Chow actually heard during her confirmation hearing, she talked a lot about public-private partnerships, really said it seems like she kind of went on and on about the benefits of it. And the benefits are pretty obvious.”

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15. “I think getting the service is different than getting the ideas and generating the intellectual capital that gets put into putting something like that in place. And we in the U.S., one of our greatest virtues and one of the biggest challenges for us is that when new transportation technology is introduced, something like Hyperloop, and say we want to be first, a lot of times what we say is we want to be safest. And I think that's a good thing for us. It doesn't always make us a fast mover, but it certainly helps us when we say to an individual who's using that service or to a company that's moving things through that service, we can say with a straight face that we've thought about the safety aspects of it. And that's the number one thing.”

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16. “And so you mentioned that it might not happen in the US first, and one of the companies, Hyperloop Bond, has partnerships or has struck up contracts with... Places like Dubai, for example. Is this an aspect of transportation infrastructure that the US is likely to compete with other countries on? You know, if another country gets it first, is this something that the government will be like, we need to get this in?”

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17. “Well, you need Congress's help because we have, you know, we have sort of, as Simon says approach to technology in the US and transportation usually, which is for something like that, which is a complete system that is brand new. It's very different than the autonomous car. We actually have authority to regulate automobiles. And so we can adjust to some extent. But with something that's brand new like this, Congress will have to lay out some ground rules for us to play within before we can really, really jump into it with two feet.”

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18. “Yeah. Well, I've had an opportunity to talk to Elon Musk about the idea. And when high-speed rail was proposed in California, This is an alternative that he developed in his head, and it's probably the biggest difference between, aside from the technological differences, is that in his mind this would be a way of utilizing existing right-of-way and not having to do as much acquisition of right-of-way, which is a huge portion of the cost of doing new transportation facilities.”

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19. “So when Elon Musk put this paper out, did you look at that and we're like, I really want to be the one who regulates that? Or were you like, please God know? Like, let this not happen during my tenure.”

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20. “Well, it's the technology we've known and have systems of regulation around that we understand. I've been very, very open to things like Hyperloop, but Hyperloop is going to have to have a regulatory structure built around it. And I'm not sure, in fact, I'm pretty sure the federal railroad administration's current regulations would be like putting a square peg in a round hole for Hyperloop. So the technology, the science behind it is very sound, but it's one of those, is another one of those examples of the technology may be there before the government is. And so that's why we have to continue keeping our ear to the ground and move as quickly as we can to stay ahead of some of these technological changes.”

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21. “Well, California has to continue making progress. Dallas, Houston will eventually have to make a fish or cut bait decision on moving forward with it. I think there's a lot of energy in the region to do it. And Florida is moving forward. So we will have a service up and going within the next four years, I'm sure. And the question is just, does that start a brush fire that moves across the country to demand more high-speed rail?”

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22. “But you look at a place like Florida, where a private group is working to build high-speed rail between Orlando and Miami. Another big project that's not without challenges, but it's moving forward. And in Texas, of all places, the area between Dallas and Houston, one of the most congested highways in Texas, they're looking at high-speed rail there too, and they're pretty early in the process. But the point I'm making is that the demand for high-speed rail is there, and we are actually making progress in not just one place, but in three places across the country. And I think over the long haul, we're going to see a much more interconnected high-speed rail system.”

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23. “Well, there were some land use disputes. There were some disputes about the propriety of the state even doing the project. But those issues have largely been resolved. And so they're moving forward with it. But a project of that magnitude is going to take years and years to get done. And so it's like a journey of a thousand miles begins with one step. So every day they're turning dirt and starting to put facilities in place is the day we get closer to seeing the service happen.”

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24. “Well, a lot of progress has been made on high-speed rail. I'll talk about the California project, but we also have two other projects that are at various stages today. In California, as with many big projects, it's not been without controversy and without lawsuits. But the truth of the matter is that the funding is in place. They're making progress, and they're going to start turning dirt. They actually started turning dirt on the project. I was out there just a few months ago. What is that?”

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25. “And so speaking of being living on the other side of the tracks, the high-speed rail program was also a focal point for you, just from where I'm sitting, it's hard to kind of see the progress. Talk to me a little bit about where it is today and what the next couple years hold for it.”

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26. “Yeah, the gaps in different communities are going to be different. If you're out in a rural part of the country and you're poor, that's a different transportation problem than if you're in an inner city. But the challenge is making sure that the conditions are top of mind for those decision makers, both at the local level and at the state level.”

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27. “We went to those mayors and we said, look, tell us, if you've got a project that you think will make a difference in terms of mobility. And Indianapolis picked a bus rapid transit project. Baton Rouge picked a streetcar project. And each city had a project they wanted to do. And we're helping those projects happen. And those are projects that usually are the last one to get done, but they've been moved to the top of the page, both by the cities and by us. And so we're working to get those done.”

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28. “On that front, we've done several things. You have to realize that there's no way to have a sweeping impact on this kind of separation we've created for ourselves. in one action it's a lot of little actions it's a lot of projects that are happening on the ground and changing the mindset of both the planners and the people who are part of the public engagement process so we've done things like a pilot where we went to cities seven cities that were the hardest for someone who's poor to reach into the middle class we asked the mayors of those cities cities like Baltimore Atlanta my hometown Charlotte Baton Rouge Indianapolis Phoenix”

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29. “I definitely I did. And I thought technology certainly was going to be an area that I'd focus on. I also thought that creating more community connections would be a place I would spend some time on too. Having grown up in Charlotte on the other side of the track, so to speak, I brought a perspective of someone who had grown up on the other side of the tracks, and I knew what those tracks meant to me when I was growing up. And I wanted to create a society where we had fewer infrastructure projects that substituted as lines of demarcation between haves and have-nots and people who were in and people who were out.”

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30. “Obviously, I want it transformation. I want it, and I want it this period of time to be consequential. Our transportation system, and that meant in part fixing some things that had not been fixed. Like, for example, the need for a long-term surface transportation bill. We've been almost 10 years without one. And there are graveyard of people who've pushed for them, but we were actually successful in being able to get it done. On the other hand, I also feel like we were at an inflection point with technology.”

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31. “And so you accepted the nomination, you stepped down as mayor. What did you think the priorities were going to be? Obviously, you get reefed when you actually take office, but what did you think the priorities were going to be? What did you want them to be?”

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32. “Oh, absolutely. There's no question. I look around the room when we're in cabinet meetings, and I'm paying very careful attention, of course. But when I look at some of the other agencies, I feel like this is the one that I love to be coming to every day. It's partly because, in my view, is so people-centered, but also because the things we do are long-term. When Arnie Duncan and I were in the president's cabinet together, I used to say to him, you know, Arnie, The two of us are the ones who are the long term ones, because if you do your job right, we'll know in eighteen years that you'll What the effect of it is. And if I do my job right over the next 50 years, we'll know. And that's the way I think about it.”

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33. “By the time a rule comes out. And so the rule could be outdated by the time it happens. So we're rethinking how we approach these things. And I think you've seen it through things like our autonomous vehicle guidance, which was guidance. It wasn't a rulemaking. And it was something that we intend to update every year because we recognize this is a fast quick evolving area and we need to make sure that we can be flexible and nimble.”

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34. “Been an adjustment we've embraced and we've wanted to do more engagement with the tech community. My own personal interactions with folks out in Silicon Valley, for example, and it's not just Silicon Valley. There are other places where this is cropping up too. But I recognize the rate of change in our space is going to be faster in the future. And one of the things I've tried to really impress upon our agency is that that has implications on how we do what we do. For example, a regulatory work, our rulemakings can take something like four or five years on the normal course. Right. Well, with a technology like autonomous vehicles or drones or something like that, we could be two or three generations into a technology.”

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35. “I used to use the New York subway system every day to get to school. And you'd be just surprised at the wide range of people you find in the New York subway. You find the wealthiest person, Mike Bloomberg. You might find someone who's homeless. And there's real power in that because, you know, part of the challenge we have in our politics today is that people are invisible from each other. And when you have collector systems like a subway system or public transportation system or even some of our other modes of transportation, it makes it's like a community. We create a community on an airplane every time an airplane takes off. There are new people sitting next to each other. And I think the more we create that closeness, the more we can build the kind of country and the community we want.”

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36. “I gravitated towards it because it's what we experience every day. It's one of the most fundamental ways people experience their government. And when it works well, it makes a difference. It makes our life better lives better. It makes our travel time shorter. It makes our ability to get to see our loved ones easier. And when it doesn't work, it frustrates us. And so for me, I learned in city government that it's not just the throughput. It's also how much community building goes on in transportation. And, for example, when I went to law school,”

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37. “The work I did as mayor. we were working much more closely, trying to get my city and the whole country out of the Great Recession. And we did things in Charlotte. Like we reformed our workforce development system to make it more demand driven, to get people trained up for jobs that actually exist and not, as my friend Tom Perez says, train and pray. We worked hard to make sure we had a better after-school environment for kids. We put our after school programs on a competitive basis. And we did a lot on transportation, extending a 10-mile light rail line, getting a streetcar started, putting an intermodal facility at our airport, getting the final piece of a beltway done in the city. And transportation was just something I gravitated towards.”

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38. “Well, I think fundamentally the president have some parallels. I think when you get down to it, he's a student of policy and probably enjoys that as much or more than some of the other aspects of politics. And for me, that's very much the case. When I was elected the city council as a freshman city council member, one of the first jobs I had to get done was a budget for the city. And I actually worked to learn the budget and the mechanics of it and work with my colleagues to propose a city budget that was the largest transportation bond in the city's history, largest increase in housing. And there are lots of things we did in that budget that made a difference in communities, but it's actually spending the time getting underneath some of the big picture topics and actually learning the mechanics of things that helps you get things done. So I think he recognized that.”

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39. “Well, you know, it's always a remarkable event when the president calls you. Because the president's pretty busy and he's got plenty of things to do. And for him to take the time to call me, to ask me to join his cabinet and join his administration. Has been one of the highlights of my life for sure.”

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40. “He did, he did. He called me, I remember it was april twenty sixth, twenty thirteen. Yes, you know, this afternoon, I got a call on my cell phone. No number came up, which usually means it's someone who doesn't want me to know that they're calling or the White House. Exactly, exactly. So I picked up the phone and you get the operator saying, hold for the president. And you know that's a big deal.”

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41. “then the process is turned over to the Senate. And the Senate had questionnaires. They wanted me to fill out. I had to go through a confirmation hearing and then wait on the vote. And that process for me was relatively short. It was from the nomination on April 29, 2013 to the confirmation vote on June 26, 2013. That's about two or three months, and that's not bad for confirmation. I've had people who work for me who got nominated. And they were never confirmed. And I think part of the challenge of getting good people to come into government. That when you put them through the ringer of vetting and all that stuff and you never vote on them, that's a real problem. So that's been my experience.”

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42. “Well, I can speak from my experience. When I was nominated by the president, it actually was actually a fairly lengthy process. I actually came up to Washington probably 10 or 11 times when I was mayor and had several different meetings with different people along the way. That process takes a while for it took a while for folks to pick. And then once they picked, then there's an FBI process and a lot of work that goes on to ensure that there are no surprises, so to speak. And then you get into the committee process. Once the president nominates you,”

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43. “Well, yeah. And I was looking for a venue where I could play offense, where I could be part of introducing new issues and tackling new ground, so to speak. And it took me several turns, but it was finally when I started working on the House Judiciary Committee in the late 1990s when I saw the legislative process and the political process and realized that you can actually raise issues. You can bring new issues to light, and you can come up with some ideas on how to solve those issues. And you're free of some of the constraints that you're under when you're practicing law. So from that experience, I knew that at some point I'd want to get engaged in the legislative process, and it just so happens that I ended up at the local level.”

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44. “Yes Well, I actually started out wanting to become a civil rights lawyer. It just so happened that by then of when I was born and the time I came through law school, that civil rights lawyers were largely playing defense. There were a spade of voting rights cases, a spade of affirmative action cases, and other cases where civil rights lawyers were really trying to hold on to gains that had been made back in the 60s and 70s.”

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45. “Because so much of its economy is tied to the financial sector. So early in my tenure as mayor, I got a group of business people to travel with me to Washington and to spend time getting briefings with different corners of the administration on recovery plans because I wanted us to be aligned. And that started a process of just getting to know the president and the people around the president. And it's been a great pleasure.”

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46. “Well, I first met the president in 2007. This was after he was pretty much going to be running for president. We all kind of knew it. And so I met him at an event at a little restaurant in Charlotte, North Carolina. We didn't get a long time to visit at that point in time. But later, he got elected, obviously. I got elected as mayor of the city of Charlotte. And then we spent a lot of time together. Charlotte was one of the hardest hit cities by the recession.”

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47. “Well, there's a mix of emotions. Obviously, it's been a labor of love to come serve our country and to work under President Obama. It's also knowing so many people, both political appointees and career professionals at the USDOT, who come to work every day and bring it every single day. It's just, it's been amazing to work with such a great group of people. And I'll miss that. It's interesting when you get to the end of a president's term and you're so closely connected to that president, you know, you do feel this sense of, you know, there does need to be a changing of the guard. And, you know, I've tried to do everything I can with every minute I've had. But when I put it down, hopefully I can look back and say I didn't have any things I wanted to do that I didn't at least try.”

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48. “Cars are going. So hopefully, we'll have her on at some point. Yep. And as well as drones and FAA regulations. Well, great. I am looking forward to hearing the interviews. Take it away, Johanna. Thanks, Kara. I'm here with Secretary of Transportation, Anthony Fox. Thanks for joining me.”

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