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Audrey Tang

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“JavaScript pretty well Pearl Raku Haskell and Python not very fluently Ruby of course and so on there's C sharp not really C sharp Ocamo and also C. Anyway, yes Ocamo is F sharp. Yeah, English of course but I think I think in English mostly nowadays if you talk about natural language and for me Mandarin or along with Mandarin Tony Solog, which are my two native languages, I reserve them for more poetic expressions but my work language is not definitely English.”
2020-10-07 · Conversations with Tyler · Audrey Tang on the Technology of Democracy · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And now that's a, I wouldn't say universal, but at least a world globally applicable view. Anyone can be part of the transcultural republic citizens.”
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“I think a couple more things, right? I need to learn more languages. And now with the help of assistive intelligence, such as machine learning and translation, it's becoming much easier. take a step doing that, translating how to use the traditional rest cooker that you see right there to disinfect the masks so that it kills the virus but doesn't destroy the PP material. I translated it and narrated it in I think a dozen languages. And so it's a beginning, but I look forward to learn more languages and communicate in more languages. And the other thing is also synthesize, right? More of the cultures that I have come across into a more transcultural way of living, transcultural way of thinking. And that includes up to the name of the country itself, Taiwan, the name of country is officially Zhonghua Minguo, which I translate as a transcultural republic of citizens.”
2020-10-07 · Conversations with Tyler · Audrey Tang on the Technology of Democracy · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, but I'm talking about democratic cultures and democratic norms. So if we shorten the iteration to not four years, but actually maybe 60 days, as is the standard iteration in Taiwanese citizens initiative, the e-petition platform, then we can iterate more. Each particular generation, of course, in that 60 days are interested from their point of view. But if you rotate quickly, then even a still pictures when rotated quickly looks like animation. Actually, that's where the word anime came from. It's just quickly animated frames.”
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“I do know, I mean that's a question for the other government. Maybe I think people were limited by the imagination of the government being a single thing, right? We said internet governance. We didn't say internet government. If the IETF or ICANN started calling themselves Internet government, I'm sure that there will be a lot of more limitation in thinking in the multi-stakeholder approach. But no, we call it governance. We don't call it government. So maybe just the word government itself limits people's imaginations.”
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“That I cannot argue from any particular viewpoint, I will work a couple days to spend time with the community on ethnographic just hanging out and until I rotate my worldview and until I can argue from their viewpoint. And so that's called taking all the slides.”
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“Yes, Gilling means that taking something that used to only happen between two people or three people that's listening intently and scaling it using technologies to make sure that when I tour around Taiwan, I can still listen intently to people who are social innovators in their indigenous nation or their remote island or rural areas, but at the same time through the modern technology, which seems like magic at times people from five municipalities from 12th central government ministries can also listen as intently as I am to the stories and the innovations of the local people. And so that scales the listening idea. And by rotation, I mean taking all the sides. So whenever there are people of differing positions on an emerging topic, it could be Uber, it could be esports, it could be 5G, self-drive vehicles, you name it. If I find”
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“My main work there is just with a bunch of people in the GovZero community to set up communication infrastructure so that people can understand what's really going on with their own eyes and participating in the journalism making without being derailed by the rumors and disinformation campaigns that's bound to come with any occupied.”
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“Yeah, I've read and actually translated Manuel Castell's in the ideas in the books, a network of outrage and hope and earlier in communication powers. And so we have the benefit, I guess, from learning from previous occupies, such as the Occupy Wall Street, of course, but also the 15M and other movements. And so I started understanding that the more that you can make humor travel faster than rumor, the more you can get people interested in a kind of night market fun-ish kind of way, the less likely that the more divisive and the more revenge-seeking part of a occupy movement will grow. That is to say the conservative part in anarchism has a chance to thrive and people have a chance to arrive to rough consensus and running code, legal code in this case when they can literally hum in the street. And so”
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“I don't know. I mean the IETF and the Internet itself maybe is really the American experiments value, the United States value, the value that unites the states written in a like seventy eighty kind of view in code. And so by working with internet technologies, by working with the implicit assumption of freedom of speech, freedom of assembly.”
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“No, I think people can be more transgender. I mean, when our minister Chen Shi Zhong, the commander of the Central Appendic Command Center, put on the medical mask to show solidarity to the young boy who caught to say that he doesn't want to go to school because pink musks being rationed makes him look like he'll be bullied. I think Mr. Chen and the medical officers became a little bit more transgender that very moment. And so it's a practice like translation and transculturalism.”
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“Well, of course, I think it makes it easier to empathize with people because I've gone through some parts of your puberty, no matter the gender of you. And so I wouldn't feel that half a population is different from me. I would feel that I'm just part of Homo sapiens. This is a large community.”
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“Very lively, and because both my parents were journalists that works with the political and law training, and so democratization is on the forefront of their own minds. And also because they were censored by the single party a lot at the time. And so I would read their drafts and the drafts being censored and they will debate the censor, taking the case to the owner of the press if needed be. And for environmental justice and social justice and so on. And so a lot of discussion was around censorship and the freedom of press when I was really young.”
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“I'm not sure that I am currently detached to you, and I'm not sure that I'm sharing things from an objective point of view. I mean, I'm sharing my feelings and personal memories when I was a young child, and these are only verifiable as phenomena in my own mind. And so I'm not sure that the term objective is the right term to use here.”
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“Well, I guess it made me less interested in outdoor sports. It also made me less up to anchor or really any passion, right? I can't feel very joyful either because of the hard condition. So I'm more common collected. I learned Taoist breathing exercises and they're with me like a survival instinct still now.”
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“Yeah, I read the Xi'in, the collection of poems, and it shaped me to view things always from coaches, from various different coaches, because each chapter in the shooting is literally one slice of coach of a very different culture, and it's a kind of collection of poems that shows how the same thing may be interpreted and narrated in completely different ways from two different cultures when they view the same historical event and of course the jing that showed me that we are merely spaces of which that thoughts may pass through us, but we don't own the thoughts. The thoughts own us, Prayfo.”
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“With the marriage equality law. It only hyperlinks to the individual parts of bylaws but not the in-law relationships, the family to family relationships.”
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“Eventually, other more individual to individual norms prevail and in twenty eight become the only form of recognized marriage which is by registration. And that in addition to the feminist movement that fought for the equal rights for women to not having to relinquish her family name when they marry and things like that, or led to the feeling of intersectionality so that the earliest feminist activist would then be the most ardent allies to the LGBTIQ plus community. So I think early successes and also the way to work themselves into the gender equality community and 12 years of gender mainstreaming work, the gender impact assessment in the public sector and so on, all of these mechanism designs help to make a more liberal culture out of the existing culture, a family-to-family relationship, which we did not actually disrupt.”
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“Well, first of all, I think that's because as I mentioned, there is more than one norm going on, right? Even in the ethnic Hun, there is the Taiwanese hollow, Taiwanese Hakka, and many traditions, some of which is actually quite natural to have, I think, I don't know how to translate that term like a contractual union brother, whatever that means. And in the Taiwanese Holocaust tradition, and there's also the indigenous nations with, for example, the Paiwan nation that doesn't quite make a distinction between genders when electing their leaders of the Indigenous nation and so on. And so because of the transculturalism in Taiwan and the open and democratic culture, we eventually see that even though there is a part of the country, maybe the majority at some point sees marriage as between families and the individual that wed are just representatives of their families.”
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“No, because I was making the software that enabled people to play magic gathering without paying wither of the coast. And so it was a real software project that I was working on, the magic suitcase, and also working with the apprentice with the drafting mechanism so that people don't have to be locked in to wither up the coast and so on. So to me, it also feels liberating, I guess, so that people, even with no money and who are living very modest means and so on, can enjoy the game and essentially creating their own rules.”
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“I haven't considered that question maybe because when I was young I couldn't participate in any kind of sport baseball included and so I've never thought much about sports. Esport, of course, I've thought about quite a bit, but of course we are not here to talk about match the gathering, which I can talk for hours.”
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“There are parts of Taipei that feels quite Japanese, of course. The cabinet office, the executive yuan, and the presidential office were both buildings of that era. Of course, they were also learning from European architects, so it's also very transcultural.”
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“Well, the emphasis on public health, the fact that people see that working in the medical and public health professions as the high and noble cause of calling, I think that was introduced by the Japanese colonial rule. And it's, well, of course, there's a political part of it because the Japanese really didn't like Taiwanese going into politics or law for that matter. But, yeah, the emphasis on public health and on medicine and Medicare, I think that really is wonderful legacies.”
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“Well, I mean, there was a document, I think it was typing Yo shu or something, that has a lot of tech utopianism in it, but I don't think it's ever put into practice. So if you view it from a kind of admiring science fiction novel kind of way, I think you can definitely root for it. But I don't think the Tai Pin Tiengo actually deployed what's described in the Taiping Niao Chu to any significant degree.”
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“Well I don't know, I mean I identify mostly as Homo sapiens and so I don't mean we're all descendants of some East African common ancestor and so when you say your home I immediately think of Lucy which was strictly speaking is a Homo sapiens but the GPS location would be quite similar. So yeah, that's the view that I take that of course on the land of the Eurasian plate there's many cultures and civilizations whether you call it Chinese or not is quite besides the point. The main interest for me is how those cultures transfer and learn from each other and make cultural innovations such as Zen, which is a transcultural conversation between the Buddhist tradition and the Taoist tradition and that interests me more than whether you call a particular”
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“I don't know, I haven't lived in the town dynasty. I haven't lived in the Town Dynasty, I read about the Town Dynasty, and although my family name, I guess, is the same character as the Tan Dynasty. It never really brought me closer to any particular dynasties.”
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“Well, the Pescador de Ponghu Islands is great too. I mean Taiwan is beautiful islands and it's plural. So it's not only the main land of Taiwan, but also the Pescador Islands, the Orchid Islands. There's many other islands other than the main island of Taiwan for you to enjoy.”
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“I'm sure that once the vaccine is here around the turn of the year, I'm sure that by Q1 next year, when people are vaccinated, we will open. That is what the scientists are saying.”
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“So maybe they are less well known. That's a fact. And so the Taiwanese psyche, I think, is mostly about being okay with that, I guess. The hashtag Taiwan can help. Taiwan is helping really says it on the tin that we don't quite do this egoism. You don't have to thank Taiwan every 20 seconds if our innovations have helped you. We really just want the world to be better.”
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“I do note TSMC writes a lot of software. So I think it's just consumer software like to see software is true. I mean, Taiwan has a unicorn now, though I don't usually use that. Company Appia that basically is entirely to be. They enable businesses to deliver insights from the interactions and refactor the online experiences and so on. But I'm sure that Pizza Hut or any company that deployed API technology would not probably feature a powered by Apir kind of way as the UN powered by Intel or powered by ARM kind of marker in their websites. And so there are very successful Taiwanese software companies. They are known in the software world. TrendMicro is another one. But because these are less directly to users, to customers.”
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“Actually, civic tech, which is, I guess, could also qualify as privately coded, is different in the sense that how it works is open for anyone who want to fork, that is to say, to take it to a different direction. So while it's true that the original mask availability map wasn't open source, the API was open and open source clones and derivatives from the OpenStreetMap community, from various other community, very quickly sprouted and we have more than 140, a majority of which are open innovations and even the original mask availability map become open source after a couple months. So if you keep working in the open working out loud, even the most privately held corporations such as Google eventually agreed to make the parts of the counter pandemic the mass availability and so on and develop them in the open.”
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“I don't know, I mean, isn't America this grand experiment to keep making mistakes and correcting them in the open and share it with the world? That's the American experiment.”
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“Higher, I'm sure, and more clearly spelled out So, first of all, I think, yeah, having a clearly spelled out perimeter in Taiwan when it comes to privacy and a strong civil right movement that literally fought for those freedoms and memories are still fresh really helps the conversation because anything that try to encroach on the basic freedoms is immediately met with the counter argument, do you want to go back to the martial law or do you want to go back to the white terror? And of course the argument would be a very strong and so the people who advocate for less privacy, that argument, their argument would be a non-starter. And so I think it really helps to conserve the societal energy to work with the data that's already being collected. Just use it in a way creatively to counter the pandemic instead of inventing new ways to collect data, which always has uncertain privacy properties. So I think, of course, that helps.”
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“I don't know I haven't met an economist that I didn't like, so I don't think there's any particular personality flaws there.”
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“Yeah, I think it's going quite well. The CRAM schools, for example, instead of putting people into long hours trying to memorize standardized answers are now offering CRAM schools on hiking and maybe kayaking and all sort of outdoor group activities and also help on the humanitarian aid overseas even though travel is restricted now we can still help through teleconference and so on and so yeah there's a lot more emphasis on social responsibility starting from a more tender age rather than just individualistic competition between people and people”
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“interesting thought, right? Well, maybe neural link, but I don't know, right? In the meantime, in the meantime. Well, I think that the shift from a literacy-based, like standardized answer wrote memory standardized test, the teachers know the best into a competence-based education, which is the people are producers of data and media and narratives that really helps. On the other hand, I'm biased because I'm part of the K-12 curriculum committee that put this into action starting last year.”
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“Well, the Taoist isn't quite opposed to anything. That's the thing with Taoist, right? We're always making space so that opposition can grow into common values and innovation. And I think that's something that the Confucian approach works too, except for the Confucianism that is by coding. Essentially, the rights, the norms practice, the best practices of norms. And for a Taoist, of course, that there's no best practice. There's just practices. And the best practice is maybe just to share and let go of your practices and be humble.”
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“Well, that's a really good question, isn't it? Well, I don't know. I mean, I've read, of course, the anarchists FAQ, the anarchist handbook online, right? And also the Illuminatus trilogy, which may or may not count as anarchist. That, of course, has really led the impression to me. But no, I think the main source of inspiration I draw, and that's why I call myself a conservative anarchist is from the more Eastern traditions, the Taoist tradition, the Zhongzu tradition, and more recently from Kojin, a Japanese anarchist thinker.”
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“Well, of course, I watch the artworks by the Taiwanese Renaissance filmmakers and books and so on. But I wouldn't say that any of them influenced me to such a high degree as the classics has. So I'll probably have to say that, of course, I'm influenced one way or another, but not in a major part of my thought.”
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“Of course, there's not only the Tao Ding, there's this whole literary tradition that begin with Lao Tzu, but John Z, of course, is of a lot of influence to me. The collection of poems, the Xi Jing also, and of course also the Yi Jing, the original binary thinking. But of course, the thing about the Book of Change is that it teaches about the only thing that is immobile, that would not change is change itself, and how to work with the change to face, to accept, to deal with it and let go of it, I think it's a core teaching of the ICI.”
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“I just read again the Mandarin translation of Tean's novel collection exhalation. I already read the English one, but the translation book just arrived, so I read that again. And so that's on the margins. I learned about the life cycle of software projects and so on. I think that one is really good.”
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“The indigenous communities that I'm more familiar with is the Atayal and the Amis, the former because I vent quite a few months actually, if not year, right after dropping out of the middle school because my mom was co-founding an experimental primary school in the Adael Mountains in collaboration with the Indigenous people there. So actually the students there also learns the indigenous perspective. And I really feel liberated from a written culture that this orally preserved culture really takes me out of this human-centric point of view in the view that the mountains and rivers are long-lived spirits and were just transient doers that works with them. I think that really have influenced my politics a lot to be less human-centric. The Amis, because I think they're a And so quite useful to remind.”
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“Well, I think the rough consensus is that you can consult a Michelin guide, which operates in Taiwan in a lot of municipalities. But of course, being an oyster vegetarian, the majority of which I don't really pursue. So you'll have to be your own guy.”
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“Well, of course that means that we see democracy as set of technologies, social technology. So to us, technologies are not always industrial. It could also be social. The set of constitutional amendments of which another one or few is going on right now shows that even the kernel of democracy is technology that people can contribute to just like sending pull requests to the Linux kernel.”
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“Things like environmental science and things like smart contracts for labor, like for migrant workers, as I mentioned on the very beginning, those can see useful work of distributed ledger technologies and blockchain is just one implementation detail.”
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“Competitor from blockchain. That's exactly right. So blockchain is just one implementation of broad swath of technology known as distributed ledgers or DOTs. And relational databases, again, could be distributed. And if people want easy accountability or auditability, they can use some of the technologies originated from blockchain. And in that sense, Git is a blockchain because it's a chain of blocks. And of course, Git is the killer up of open source decentralized working. And so, I mean, if you think only of the cryptocurrency applications, I don't think that it will overtake central bank anytime soon in Taiwan. I think it only is a value in the cryptocurrency sense if the people have very low trust in the fiat, right? In the central bank. But if you mean it like a ledger technology that keep people accountable and honest across jurisdictions among multiple riders for”
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“I don't think there's humor, by the way. It is, of course, comedic, right? Makes fun of people, but to me humor is makes fun with someone or makes fun of oneself.”
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“Well, we know that sure. We know that humor is not the same as sarcasm, for example, or as toxic attacks that makes fun of someone, right? Humor makes fun of oneself or makes fun with someone, but it's never a kind of aggression. So when I say humor, I mean specifically humor and not any kind of commentic style. Of course, there are comedic styles that doesn't work and that will very quickly actually reinforce conspiracy theory thinking.”
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“Or why do you observe social distancing when you find it hard to measure? We're measured in terms of dogs when you're outdoor two dogs away, indoor three, Shiba even so away and so on. The idea is that before people go to sleep, even if they see both the conspiracy theory, they also see this humor because it travels very quickly, go viral. And so by the time that they go to sleep and form long-term associations in their minds with the keywords such as months or social distancing, they think of something fun. And that enables more pro-social behavior.”
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“In Taiwan, whenever there is a trending end-to-end encrypted channels disinformation campaign, the people who voluntarily report that, just like flagging email as fun, dedicated not to the government certainly, but to the social sector with the crowdsource fact-checking mechanism called COVID and also the Taiwan Fact Check Center, Michael Penn and so on, part of the International Fact-Checking Network. And so the trending rumors are met with fact-checkers almost immediately. who has teams of participation officers who talk to hashtags like the Ministry of Health and Welfare's participation officer literally lives with this dog and so can meet the rumors within a couple hours and roll out very funny dog memes that just responds to those disinformation and so for example this one is about masks and this says why do you wear masks well to protect yourself from your”
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