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  1. I'm mostly friendly We are a big customer We are the biggest reseller as far as I know of Google of Gmail and so I think pretty friendly As much as you can be friendly with Google

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  2. I think overall it's about almost fifty, and this is a lot of them, their effort is mostly about our customers' websites, not our website. We use Wix to build WIGS, right? So when we need something in SEO, everybody gets it. All of our customers get it.

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  3. Well, I used to do a lot because I really wanted to understand it. But now it's time, I think I understand the basics of it and the principles of it. So we have a very smart team that is doing that.

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  4. What is the platform? If you look at all the open source one, a lot of them look better than they really are, right? So they have this thing that they look better. But Google and Wikites look exactly where they should be. So what happened is that the birth launches because you keep testing People interact with the content with the website. So they actually get this penalty. relative base to AWICS website. And so the results, not just Wix, I'm pretty sure that's Quest will have the same phenomena, right? So, if you build a site with a platform that is very clean, you actually get a positive, on a relative basis you get a positive ranking.

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  5. We don't sell it like that because it's you can never guarantee that. And if you want to do a, I'm a restaurant in New York and to tell you that you're going to be number one ranking, right? It's a lie. I mean, you might, but it's not honest. I can say without a doubt that Weeks probably today is the best platform to be ranked by Google. And it's an interesting, when I actually asked Google about it, I got a very interesting explanation, which is you can hardly do any fake SEO things on Wix. So the website are very honest. The SEO engine look at them the way the website is. Well, if you look at other platforms, especially the open source one, it's very easy to do a lot of fake stuff. Now, one of the parameters that the boat has.

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  6. Yeah but because it's trying to predict 100% And to predict what 100% is very hard. But to see that almost always the next word is the most likely word to be, or one of the 20 most likely word to be or one of the thousand most likely words to be. So I would imagine when Google decides to know that they'll know it.

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  7. Even our customers, no dear customers, happy. They need to be able to tell their story, their personal story. And so, you know, I can generate on me journey amazing pictures of dishes in a restaurant, a fantastic looking dishes and an amazing restaurant. But if it's not the real restaurant, it doesn't really help. So they want to take their images, right? They want to take that to tell the story of the chef, to tell the story of why they do it. And I think a lot of that is really important and needs to be carried into the story. The good thing is that it's very easy to see that the text is written by AI.

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  8. I agree, but this is assuming they all just go in and click a button. Now, let me tell you, the number one lesson we learned from ADI, which you could go in and say, I'm a hairdresser from New Jersey, or I'm a doctor from Montana, and it will be a fantastic website. And then people didn't want that. What they wanted is to tell their story. So the most important part of ADI was not just the ability to build and immediately start with the template. It was actually going in and editing that to your picture, to your images, to your story, and helping our customer achieve that. Once we got that right, it became very successful product. But the magic of the AI was really inspiring to see, but it didn't let people take their story and put it on the web. And I mean, that was a huge difference. And so from that, what I learned is that it's actually a proof to your point, right? Which is to make.

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  9. If you're a doctor and you sign up for WICS and you let the AI fill out all the content on your website, you're just trying to convert them into showing up at your office so that you might personally build a connection with your patients. But that part where you're just doing content marketing, that's the part that seems dangerous to me, right? It's all going to be kind of the same. It's all going to read kind of the same. It might be in the same templates, even that's the thing I'm worried about, right? The differentiation there, even the text starts to collapse to the same thing.

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  10. It's true, by the way, for me, Richard. It's not something you're going to do on Instagram. And by the way, for a well-managed restaurant, I would argue that a lot of the things you want to do, you need to be able to communicate with your customers more directly than hope that somehow the Instagram algorithm will push it to your customers. And I think for majority of businesses, that's the case. If you want an issue, by the way, a new makeup company for 12-year-old girls, you don't need a website. You definitely need to be on TikTok and Instagram. But for a lot of the other, if you're a doctor, if you're a gym, if you are a lot of e-commerce businesses, I think you still find that your communication with the customer essentially has to be something that you control.

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  11. But you're increasingly going to go to Instagram for that. I know dozens of restaurants in New York City that have horrible websites and their answer is go to facebook.com slash my restaurant or go to instagram.com slash my restaurant. Our menus are posted on Instagram daily.

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  12. Okay. And for some reason, a lot of the time it does work. And obviously there's like super smart engineers in Google. So I would think that a lot of it is on purpose. And I also probably in a luxury place of being in the spot where I see more website than anybody else on the planet. And I know the results on Google. So I can see a lot of the thing behind it. I'll go. I think there is, if Google will decide one day to remove fake content, there'll be no fake content in Google. I really believe so, you know. Maybe I'm naive. Maybe I'm not when I give them too much credit, but I think they're really smart engineers. But for your question, let's use a business, okay? That's it that you said to Jim, okay, before. If you're a gym, How do people go to check what's happening in a gym? You're not going to go to TikTok for that.

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  13. I think you should do both, but essentially, and I see examples every day, right? The combination is way more powerful than just one. And a lot of people still go to Google and do a search. And TikTok, when you do a search, you're not necessarily going to get what you expect. On the web, you still get what you expect. I think the question of why there is SEO bile is a really interesting one because I think Google is way smarter than we give them credit there. Like, I don't believe that you can fool Google by changing your alt text to something.

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  14. Look, I don't disagree with you there. And, you know, YouTube has a new policy about deep fakes and taking them down. And all, I think every platform is going to have to come up with some policy about AI generated content or synthetic content. And I think that's a real tension for every platform. I'm saying specifically for the web, which is more or less a text-based platform. There's no way to detect it reliably. And then the recommendation engine for the web is Google, which is, I think, losing the war against SEO spam broadly. And so there's just a feedback loop on this platform that I think is different than the feedback loop on Instagram or TikTok.

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  15. But you have an interesting assumption here. I agree with you on averaging thing, and I agree with you on the fact that it's only recycled information. LLMs are not meant to invent information. But you assume that it's not going to happen on TikTok and Instagram. Well, I believe that it's a matter of a year or eight and a half, and we're going to see it happening on Instagram and TikTok. So most of what you see on TikTok, Can be generated with the equivalent of LLM that will again recycle information.

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  16. I think the web is an enormous amount of danger from tools like this and we haven't quite reckoned with what happens when we take a statistical averaging of the web that existed until today and publish millions of more websites with it. And there's a feedback loop in there where I don't know where the new ideas come from. And I don't know why anybody with new ideas would look at that state of things and choose the web over TikTok or over YouTube. There's something there that I think is really interesting and really fascinating and potentially really dangerous, which is probably why I think it's really interesting. But I haven't quite sorted it out in my mind. That's why I want to talk to so many CEOs of companies that make the web because it feels like there needs to be some limiting principle on how much AI text we publish because otherwise we're going to choke out all the people.

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  17. Yeah, well, I hope to stay with OpenAI because, you know, I've been a partner for a long time. But I do believe that the cost will go down. What do you think about it? So let me reverse the question for a minute.

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  18. And you think that cost is going to come down, right? The opening AI cost is going to come down, or you'll be able to go to the market and say, okay, this is a commodity now. Who's the cheapest in the quality level will be the same?

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  19. I don't think so. Maybe to some things, but essentially if you come two weeks today, you can have weeks as OpenAI to fill the template with the content that is relevant to you and to create a lot of different things with the content that is relevant to you. I'll use an OpenAI. And the value in the conversion from free to paying that we get is higher than what we pay to OpenAI. So I prefer actually to keep it free.

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  20. We're actually sponsoring it at this stage for our customers because the value in the conversion is such that it's worth our time

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  21. We have a way to look at it, right? We see how much of our customers are actually happy about it. And we're talking about our numbers. It's a pretty decent way to measure it. But to be fair, we never tried to use Baud or any of the other ones. We use OpenAIPOM, I think, from almost more than ELA now.

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  22. Do you measure quality of text? I feel like you can measure quality of code, which when I talk to people, everyone is very excited about the programming aspect of LLMs. My view about the text aspect is a C++ and that's where it tops out. How do you measure quality of text versus quality of code?

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  23. We don't have an LLM. I think the LLM won't get mad at me for saying that, but I think LLM is a commodity and we don't have any advantage in making one of our own. Of course, there are gaps. We are using OpenAI, which I think are the best currently, best in class at this stage. And we are very happy with the partnership with them. But I think long-term, the difference between the quality of the text that you get from one to the other will continue to shrink.

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  24. So before I was an appeal, I think, in many ways, I do believe that I think ADR was the first mass market product, at least that actually allowed people to create something with AI. I'm not sure about it, I think, because millions of people used it. And we learned a lot for that interaction. We learned a lot. So I'm with you. I think that it's going to be a huge change, not just in the web and everything we do.

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  25. Actually, that's an interesting story. My background is a developer, as you can probably guess from all the technical details. We started to work on a related project in 2014. And then in 2016, we released ADI, which is an AI that was creating websites. You told it a little bit and created everything for you. It's very basic AI, transformers, not attention-based transformer, of course, that was actually invented in 2017, the algorithm. But it created decent website in seconds. But when I tried to get a company, like all the team to use AI-based project, it was very hard. And I think last year, a year ago, it became very easy. Everybody wanted to do something to do with AI.

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  26. Who is a customer for an iPhone? Who is the customer for Chrome? Well, everybody, right? That's not a really good answer. But let me ask you, what are they trying to do? What is the guy using Watch trying to do? What is the guy using Chrome trying to do? Suddenly it's very easy to answer. I believe that to predict good product is to understand what is the customer trying to do. I know who he is. And then when I understand what they're trying to do to build something that makes easy for him to do it or a fine for him to do it. And if you got that right, you can pretty much predict the future.

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  27. And we used to actually really have a number for that so we'd know exactly how many you had in order to encourage you to always do that because the most important work of a product guy is to understand the pain of their customers. My philosophy when it comes to building product, and I think it's a bit different than most, but I'll say it is that everybody always used to tell me that the most important thing is to know who is the customer. And I think that who is the customer for, we spoke about Excel, who is the customer for Excel? Who is the customer for Wald?

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  28. I think that there is no single way to anticipate what kind of a change will happen. Sometimes there is some kind of way to assess things because you understand your customers very well. So I can tell you that if I build something in AI that will help my customer write blogs, I will definitely utilize my blogs because I know the pain is there because I can assess the pain that the customer have. But it's not always true. And I believe that that's fine. That's why I said it's okay to do things that won't make a big change. The only thing that is important about that is to recognize the fact that this might happen and to encourage that because you want to take big bets. But the number one metric that we have to predict the future is understanding what customers are saying. If you're working at weeks and you work in product, we actually measure how many conversations you have with customers.

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  29. Is part of why we call strategic, right? Because you can do those gradual changes, right? And the internet is a very good place for winning those small bets. But those small bets only take you that far. At some point, you need to change the rules of the game in order to go to the next jump so you can iterate again.

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  30. Tension I've always found there is that data can only tell you about the past Big strategic thinking, big strategic bets like your bet on AI, for example. There's no data that tells you that's going to happen. You just have to know how do you manage that tension?

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  31. Of chooses as you would for a project that had positive effects because we want to encourage that aggressiveness in testing and in going to new places. And so a lot of data we measure from conversion to what people are saying to customer feedback. Our customer support feedback. And from that, we're trying to create this big table of the thing we think we should be doing and try to assess their value. From this, we actually build the roadmaps. So this is one layer. The other layer is we want to get to strategically. We want to get to strategically is another important part. And then we make sure that it's written, it's well understood, and then we broadcast it to everybody in the company.

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  32. I think the number one thing is to understand that it's much better to make photography than a dozen every day because I mostly try to delegate and to make sure that we know what are the rules, like how do we measure success and enable other people to make smart decisions? And that they'll come and tell me what they want to do. But essentially, it would be mostly their decisions and not mine. So it will be my responsibility, but their decisions. We have a full method of how to make decisions. So everything is measured, right? This is number one. We are fanatic about it. We measure everything. If you did something that cannot be measured, then nothing happened. That's our philosophy. In fact, in light of the times, don't tell us about it. Don't come and show off a project that cannot be measured. You can come, by the way, and show us a project that you measured and had a negative effect. And you're going to get the seven.

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  33. One of those things, you know, a lot of time I took to entrepreneurs and most of the time younger entrepreneurs, they took to the fact that they make a lot of decisions every day. And I usually say, well, I make probably four every quarter.

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  34. The smallest one is in regards to education on the web, so to do online classes. So a lot of things that are done there. I think that's the smallest one. In the largest one I believe is the editing.

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  35. Exactly like that. You touched it exactly. And the concept is that they need to prove what they're doing is actually viable. So at some point, the comeback said, okay, look at the numbers. Obviously, there's an opportunity here. We're not thinking there's an opportunity. We can prove there is an opportunity. And from that point, we'll start to increase it in order to maximize that opportunity. And the largest one would be, I don't know, 190 people.

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  36. And then it's another thing that happened, I want to go back and say, well, you know, I don't just want to work on this business logic in those applications. I actually want to go work on that infrastructure denial. And we have a bunch of projects like that, and we're seeing it pretty much continuously in all of them. You just have to be very patient and to make sure that your infrastructure is very developers friendly and developer-friendly means a lot of things. But once you get that right, I think it's very, very important.

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  37. Especially on the Well, anywhere. I mean, the developers, you know, they just wrote a very fantastic post by somebody on how to do something in a much nicer or interesting way. And then they want to try it. They want to play with it. They want to build something with it. And suddenly it's like, oh no, this is how we do it. You have to do it like that. Or you have to upgrade the whole system for everybody, okay? Which is a very pricing project. But after a while, what happened is that if I look at Nile, which is in one example, and we have a few of those, In the beginning, nobody want to use it, right? And we actually had probably more people threatened to resign from weeks if we continue to work on that or do that than any other thing we ever did in the history of the company. But that survey infrastructure became more and more mature. Now everybody just want to use that. So there is a point where the value of the platform is getting to this level that it becomes, oh, I just want to do that. And then people start to at the same level of...

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  38. Instead of this agility that you get because everybody did what they wanted in the beginning, it's actually becoming a terrible thing for agility. When you have 20 or 30 services and then when you have a thousand, nothing can really happen. And so this is one of the most important things we tackled. And it requires a lot of discipline. And now none of the developers like the concept of discipline, meaning this is how you do it.

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  39. You said it's always the trickier and harder part when you have multiple divisions or multiple units working and you want, each one of them want to do their own thing, but if each one of them do the same thing, it's going to be horrifying. And I'll give you an example, right? If you look at how to build a web service, there's tons of blogs. There's like millions of resources on the internet. And a fantastic when you need to build one. But when you have a thousand web services running, right? Now it's a very different problem. It's not the same problem. And if you look at the amount of information you have on how to do and maintain a thousand, it's actually almost non-existent. But every company that is going to a certain size is starting to accumulate all of those very quickly. And you're going to end up having 100 and then a thousand and two thousand. And if you don't start tackling it from a very early point, you find that you have a lot of immigration to do, which is always very hard.

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  40. always growing, but it's always unified. We do a lot in order to make sure that we work on the same code base as much as possible without slowing down everybody else.

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  41. Yes, actually, one of the things we did early on, we started by saying, okay, just quote anybody you want. And of course, that works very well in phase one, but works very badly in phase two and phase three. And so today we have a lot of infrastructure that is unified. For example, we have a project called Nile, which is a server architecture, which automates 95% of what you need to do when you build a server for a web application. So everybody's sharing that. And we migrated all the old projects on top of that. Then we have a lot also on the front end. Like we have all of the user interface libraries are unified. So we have a common language and common code. And if we fix the bug in one place, everybody enjoys that. And we have rules like if you want to add a component to the visual thing, you have two choices. How do you use what we have already or you donate it and you build it and donate it so everybody can use it?

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  42. Well, the structure of the company is very similar to what it always means. And the company is built around the fact that I am a CEO, I always believe that my number one job is to hire very smart people, and then to build startups where you have somebody who owns a part in Wix and manage that as if it was a startup. And so this is how Wicks is built, so we'll have some in like, for example, we have the editor, which is what you essentially build websites with, but then you have an application, for example, managing events that will be its own startup, essentially, meaning we try to make it as independent as possible, and to have one guy that, of course, is making the decision. And our job as management is to make all of those head-off, right, of those startups within weeks work well together.

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  43. We did very little, so what we did is that during COVID, the demand we got to our services was very big. So we needed to increase our support as we went from COVID and a peak in demand to a global economy slowdown. We found that we need less people in the support department. So when people left, we didn't rehire, we did a bit of layoffs.

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  44. Now underwood, we have behalf in Israel, but we have a lot of people in the United States, Europe. So many different places.

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  45. We actually deduced a lot of marketing because I think DeBrand is now getting so strong that our marketing just needs to support it. But we have about two million signups every month.

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  46. Most of our customers are small businesses. We have enterprise customers as well, and we have people that do it privately. So like personal sites. But the majority, vast majority, of course, are small and tiny businesses.

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  47. Yes, in fact, if you have a gene we can actually give you everything you need on the web, but also an application, right, a native iPhone or an Android application. For tablet or for phone in which you can manage the memberships, you can see who sign in or sign out. You can give an application to your members if you want. So they can do reservations from your application now, essentially. So we give you the full stack to manage your business, the full software stack, and it all connects. and works well together. This is another important part of it. It's not a bunch of different software vendors that you have to integrate.

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  48. We have, of course, templates, but that's mostly for the visual side. We also have an application for restaurants, right, that we build that enables you to do a lot of the things in Indiana restaurant. We have another one that if you have a hair salon or a gym or e-commerce or a physical store. So we build those applications. You can install them on top of Wix and then it allows you to manage your business and get orders, get reservations, manage events. All of this as separate application that you install on top of the Wix platform.

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  49. Yeah, today we actually include a very simple way to write JavaScript. So anything you can run on the web, you can actually build on top of Wix today. And we'll do the backend and font end hosting for you automatically. So you don't even have to know what it means. So in many ways, yes, if you can create Doom on the web, you should be able to create it on Wix in Wix today.

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  50. Silent PowerPoint are actually really great comparisons, right? Almost anybody can do the very basic thing in those applications and then I'm pretty sure at this point you can run Doom in Excel, right? It is a programming language unto itself inside of there. That's real, by the way. I'm pretty sure you can.

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