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B. Jeffrey Madoff

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“That's how since we've known each other, the conversations are like pinball. They're always like this. They're always like that.”
2021-08-11 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #526: B. Jeffrey Madoff — Dealmaking, The Hidden Persuaders, Working with Ralph Lauren, and Finding the Secret to Life in the Mojave Desert · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Now, other than, you know, they thought that it was very clever and good, but they didn't like that part because it got serious So I said, no, the next day I got a call from the Huffington Post. Love your article. Thank you. We'd love to run it. I said, as is. He said, oh, we wouldn't change it, absolutely. And then that led to me writing for them. So I did around 50-some articles because I wanted to get down the discipline of writing regularly. So they didn't impose that on me, but I did an article a week for them for a little better than a year. And so it actually ended up being something good.”
2021-08-11 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #526: B. Jeffrey Madoff — Dealmaking, The Hidden Persuaders, Working with Ralph Lauren, and Finding the Secret to Life in the Mojave Desert · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Right. Correct. And I've never gone into this. This is kind of bringing back memories, not all of them good. And so the Daily Beast said, this is what we love your article. I said, thank you. We'd like to publish it. Thank you. But we want you to make one change. I said, and what's that? Well, you have a line in there. It's very funny. It's very clever, but you have this line in there that we'd like you to take out. And I said, what's that? And they said, you say that wealthy people often cloak themselves in religious and philanthropic causes to inoculate themselves against criticism. I said, yeah So we'd like you to take that out. I said, no. And they said, well, I mean, we'd love to run it, but we'd like to take that out. And I said, how much are you paying me for this?”
2021-08-11 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #526: B. Jeffrey Madoff — Dealmaking, The Hidden Persuaders, Working with Ralph Lauren, and Finding the Secret to Life in the Mojave Desert · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“To so many people, our national audience Yeah, I said, I'm aware. No. And, you know, but what ended up happening? So there was a period of time, and obviously to this day, I'm still asked about it, when my mom died. And this was in 2010. I'm in Akron with my wife. We're at the funeral home. And the funeral director is looking at the certificate. And he says to me, I couldn't help but to notice the last name. What you usually don't check when you're going to bury somebody. And he said, well, I do see the last name. May I ask, are you related? And I said, yes, it's my mother. So that ended that discussion. But what I did, though, was I wrote an article. I get a call back from the Daily Beast. And I hadn't submitted it. I sent it out to a bunch of friends, and somebody must have submitted it. It was called, I'm Not That Mad Off.”
2021-08-11 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #526: B. Jeffrey Madoff — Dealmaking, The Hidden Persuaders, Working with Ralph Lauren, and Finding the Secret to Life in the Mojave Desert · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, so they wanted to do top 10 reasons. for not having the last name. And so they called me a few times and it happened in my studio was less than a block away from Letterman's studio. So as producers invited me over trying to talk me into it. And I said, look, I understand that you guys have to entertain your audience every night, five nights a week. And I'm not interested in making fun or making light of the pain that so many people have suffered, nor am I interested in being the butt of jokes because my last name is spelled the same way. So, well, do you know how big our audience is”
2021-08-11 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #526: B. Jeffrey Madoff — Dealmaking, The Hidden Persuaders, Working with Ralph Lauren, and Finding the Secret to Life in the Mojave Desert · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, that's right. That's right, exactly. Sounds like a wonderful opportunity. Could you put a target on me too? And, you know.”
2021-08-11 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #526: B. Jeffrey Madoff — Dealmaking, The Hidden Persuaders, Working with Ralph Lauren, and Finding the Secret to Life in the Mojave Desert · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And no, I have no interest on being on your show. And I said, well, well, we know it's early, but we wanted to get to you today. And I said, do you think that I want your audience to see me on the screen? Then you talk about Madoff or Madoff being sentenced with my face on there. And they're going to think it's me. I want absolutely no part of this. Nothing but nothing but nothing but nothing”
2021-08-11 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #526: B. Jeffrey Madoff — Dealmaking, The Hidden Persuaders, Working with Ralph Lauren, and Finding the Secret to Life in the Mojave Desert · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yes. And I, you know, I had real compassion for these people because in good faith these people invested and they had lost their money. And so I got some really horrible calls. Some people who were crying and begging and I said it's not me. And Bernard has been sentenced. You think that you're going to find a number in the phone book? There are still phone books then. I'm not him. And I got a call at five in the morning from Fox and friends. It rang, I pick up the phone and they say, you know, I forget the person's name from Fox and Friends. We'd love to have you on today. You know, Bernard Madoff is being sentenced and we'd love to have you on. I said, well, first of all, let me be clear. At five in the morning, you are not my friend.”
2021-08-11 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #526: B. Jeffrey Madoff — Dealmaking, The Hidden Persuaders, Working with Ralph Lauren, and Finding the Secret to Life in the Mojave Desert · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Not Benjamin and not Big. Well, let me say that. Let me phrase that differently. But anyhow, yes, it was Ben And I would get calls all the time. My office would get calls because it was Matt Off Productions. So you can keep it clear in your own mind is he made off with the money. I'm Mattoff. Say we got this package and the package was addressed like a kidnap note. You know, there were letters cut out of a magazine or magazines.”
2021-08-11 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #526: B. Jeffrey Madoff — Dealmaking, The Hidden Persuaders, Working with Ralph Lauren, and Finding the Secret to Life in the Mojave Desert · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“It's interesting. It was a few things. So, first of all, my first initial, although I go by my middle name, Jeffrey, my first initial is B. For Ben.”
2021-08-11 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #526: B. Jeffrey Madoff — Dealmaking, The Hidden Persuaders, Working with Ralph Lauren, and Finding the Secret to Life in the Mojave Desert · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And again, he demonstrated this very common sense good judgment, and that stayed with me to this point, traumatized by the masturbating monkey by learning from his management prowess, which I thought was quite good.”
2021-08-11 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #526: B. Jeffrey Madoff — Dealmaking, The Hidden Persuaders, Working with Ralph Lauren, and Finding the Secret to Life in the Mojave Desert · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“He said, I told you to clean out that cage. And then Bob, the manager, hired me, had heard this and walks over. And he says, Jimmy. Why don't you show them how to clean the cage properly? And then you'll take your turn. Jeff will take his, and then everybody else will take theirs. I was okay with that because then everybody was treated equally and fairly and I wasn't treated differently because I was a kid. And I was often the top-selling salesperson. So again, I learned something about management from that, which is, first of all, hear people, listen and hear people. Don't just assume because the assistant manager said, I'm not doing something. Maybe there's a reason. Maybe there's something to learn from that. Maybe there's something to make the situation better for the employees or whatever.”
2021-08-11 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #526: B. Jeffrey Madoff — Dealmaking, The Hidden Persuaders, Working with Ralph Lauren, and Finding the Secret to Life in the Mojave Desert · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I didn't want to reveal everything over lunch. And so the manager, Jimmy, says to me, the assistant manager, wants you to clean out the monkey cage. And there were five other employees, and I was by far the youngest. And I said, do you ever clean out the monkey cage? And he said, I told you to clean out the monkey cage. And I said, and by this time the other employees gathered around because he was very animated when he said that. And I said to him, I'll take my turn if everybody else takes their turn. Otherwise, I was hired to sell shoes, not be a zookeeper.”
2021-08-11 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #526: B. Jeffrey Madoff — Dealmaking, The Hidden Persuaders, Working with Ralph Lauren, and Finding the Secret to Life in the Mojave Desert · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And the monkey's name, the winning name, was solo. Now at that time, the man from Uncle was the most popular TV show, and the hero's name was Napoleon Solo. That's why everybody thinks we chose the name Solo, the truth, revealed here for the first time. Is we named it solo because all the monkey did was masturbated. So, of course, what would you do sitting back? Yeah, our monkey decay. And so the mother would then look back at her kids and she'd see the monkey furiously masturbating and say, get away from the cage, get away from the cage. So somebody had to clean the cage. Finally, getting to your point. And the assistant manager, you know”
2021-08-11 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #526: B. Jeffrey Madoff — Dealmaking, The Hidden Persuaders, Working with Ralph Lauren, and Finding the Secret to Life in the Mojave Desert · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“No, no. So since it was a family shoe store, the mother would come in, then she'd say to the kids, go back and look at the monkey. What could go wrong? By the way, a phrase that I had never heard before or since, go back and look at the monkey.”
2021-08-11 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #526: B. Jeffrey Madoff — Dealmaking, The Hidden Persuaders, Working with Ralph Lauren, and Finding the Secret to Life in the Mojave Desert · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Well, that was really good management because although he had policies when he saw what he thought would be a good opportunity, and in fact I was a very successful salesman for them, he was willing to take a chance, take a risk, and do something, and sort of make the perimeter for the job qualifications a bit more elastic to fit me in. Well, in the back of the store, there was a monkey.”
2021-08-11 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #526: B. Jeffrey Madoff — Dealmaking, The Hidden Persuaders, Working with Ralph Lauren, and Finding the Secret to Life in the Mojave Desert · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah. And he went on to found 23 in me. No, just kidding. Just kidding. So anyhow, I said, I can't hire you. I'm really sorry. I like you, but I can't hire you. And I said. I sold you and you've got to be harder to sell you than a pair of shoes. And he laughed and said, I'm sorry. So as I'm walking out, he comes after me. And he said, all right, fuck it. You're hired. And he hired me. I said, why are you hiring me? And he said, well, you're right. You sold me. I'm going to take a chance on you.”
2021-08-11 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #526: B. Jeffrey Madoff — Dealmaking, The Hidden Persuaders, Working with Ralph Lauren, and Finding the Secret to Life in the Mojave Desert · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“This was very firm, and I'm thinking, yeah, and food won't stick to your head either. She actually bought it. She was probably disappointed with the actual hairspray. But, you know, I had 30 seconds. To engage a potential customer before they close the door in my face. I mean, nowadays, I don't even think you get anybody to open the door. But back then, you could. So it was an actually amazingly good experience for selling. And that also prepped me for retail when somebody walks into the store. How do I engage them and get them selling? So I had that conversation with Bob, who was the manager, and he said, look, I can't hire you. You know, you're supposed to be 23, you're 16. You're supposed to be married, you're single.”
2021-08-11 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #526: B. Jeffrey Madoff — Dealmaking, The Hidden Persuaders, Working with Ralph Lauren, and Finding the Secret to Life in the Mojave Desert · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And then you try to sell them shampoo or dish soap or whatever. One time a woman opens the door wearing a robe and her hair is wrapped up in a towel. And I said in our special this weekend it may interest you since she just got out of the shower is our hairspray. And she said, well, you know, I actually could use the hairspray now, do you have a sample? And I said, yeah. And so I pick up the aerosol. Everything was aerosol back then. And I handed the aerosol can and she starts to, she first brushes her hair, then she sprays this. And as she's spraying, and I see, oh man, I handed her the oven spray. So I take the can back before she like looks at it and puts it back into things. She's”
2021-08-11 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #526: B. Jeffrey Madoff — Dealmaking, The Hidden Persuaders, Working with Ralph Lauren, and Finding the Secret to Life in the Mojave Desert · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Now fuller brush was like kitchen stuff and personal grooming stuff and went around with a sample case. You'd start off so they wouldn't slam the door in your face. You'd say, I've got a free gift for you. That was a big thing back then. That's like being a missionary. Yes, and you get a choice of one of the three gifts that we've got this week.”
2021-08-11 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #526: B. Jeffrey Madoff — Dealmaking, The Hidden Persuaders, Working with Ralph Lauren, and Finding the Secret to Life in the Mojave Desert · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Well, that was my thought You know, truly. And so I met with this guy. And, you know, I had done door-to-door sales. I'd done all kinds of selling.”
2021-08-11 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #526: B. Jeffrey Madoff — Dealmaking, The Hidden Persuaders, Working with Ralph Lauren, and Finding the Secret to Life in the Mojave Desert · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Those don't go together for you. So when I was a kid, I was about 16, a new shopping mall was opening in Akron, Ohio, which is where I grew up. Going to piggyback the story, piggyback the monkey story. I feel like Dr. Doolittle right now. There was a manager there. It was a chain of stores. They had run an ad for somebody who was at least 23, had shoe selling experience and was married. I was 16 unmarried and never sold a shoe.”
2021-08-11 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #526: B. Jeffrey Madoff — Dealmaking, The Hidden Persuaders, Working with Ralph Lauren, and Finding the Secret to Life in the Mojave Desert · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And so many people who were clamoring to share in that insight so it'll somehow unlock the secrets of riches and long life to them. And I thought, you know what it really takes, and I don't know many exceptions to this rule, unless you're born into money, is it takes a fuckload of work. That's what it takes to do what I've done, what you've done, what everybody I know who has accomplished something has done. So there are no secrets. What there is is the hard work, the perseverance, and that keeps you going after what you're going for. There aren't any secrets to unlock. You got to do the work.”
2021-08-11 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #526: B. Jeffrey Madoff — Dealmaking, The Hidden Persuaders, Working with Ralph Lauren, and Finding the Secret to Life in the Mojave Desert · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And simultaneously across from myself, the big reveal is that I wanted to end my book with a parable. And so I made that story up. I can't tell you how many people said, well, who is this guy? And all of that kind of thing. And what inspired me to write it is that there are so many. Self acclaimed people with insight.”
2021-08-11 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #526: B. Jeffrey Madoff — Dealmaking, The Hidden Persuaders, Working with Ralph Lauren, and Finding the Secret to Life in the Mojave Desert · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And he said, yeah, one of my followers sent me this. You believe this? They spent their money on a fucking diamond beer can opener. So he takes a big sip of it. And I do. And he said to me, you came here for the secret, right? And I said, yes. He said, okay, here's the big secret. I said, what's that? And he said, there is no secret. If you had put half of the effort into your own career and what you're doing, into what it took you to get here, you would have been far ahead of the game. Everybody comes here thinking that I've got some secret and they're so invested in all what it takes to get here that I feel like I have to do something. And I said, what about the eternal life thing? He said, listen, you live in the middle of nowhere with a bunch of people coming up wanting a piece of you and all the answers from you. It feels like an eternity.”
2021-08-11 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #526: B. Jeffrey Madoff — Dealmaking, The Hidden Persuaders, Working with Ralph Lauren, and Finding the Secret to Life in the Mojave Desert · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And I opened my eyes and said, Are you fucking crazy? I'm not putting my hand in the fire. And he said, you don't know how many people I have to stop once they start putting their hand down and I reach out. We're in the middle of fucking nowhere. If they burn their hand seriously, I'm in the shit and they're feeling miserable and we're probably 120 miles from any kind of hospital. So thank goodness you had the good sense not to do that. You want a beer? And so he hands me a beer and he's got this diamond encrusted can opener, beer can opener.”
2021-08-11 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #526: B. Jeffrey Madoff — Dealmaking, The Hidden Persuaders, Working with Ralph Lauren, and Finding the Secret to Life in the Mojave Desert · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yes. And he said, First, I want you to close your eyes. And I closed my eyes. And he said, you know, I'm closing my eyes. And he said, You've opened your eyes. And I'm thinking, well, how'd you see that? Your eyes are shut. I was testing you. So she said, close your eyes, and I want you to allow your mind to go blank. And I want you to think of nothingness. So I won't tell you where my mind went, but it didn't go to nothingness. And he said, now I want you to open your hand and place it in front of you. And I opened my hand and place it in front of me. And he said, your right hand. And I'm thinking again, how did he know his eyes are closed? And he said, put your palm towards the ground and move it in front of you, and swear the fire was. So I move in front. He says, now I want you to... Slowly put your hand into the fire.”
2021-08-11 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #526: B. Jeffrey Madoff — Dealmaking, The Hidden Persuaders, Working with Ralph Lauren, and Finding the Secret to Life in the Mojave Desert · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And I was in my Late 20s, early 30s. The seeking ages. And I heard about this person who lived deep in the Mojave Desert and that for a fee. For a fee, you know, he would share that knowledge. And so it was really hard to get there, by the way. It's not like there were direct flights to this place or anything. And so I make this journey which involved plane flight, then a train, then walking, and a car. And it was like quite a thing to get to this isolated place. And I go in and there's this kind of very beatific man, smooth skin, like porcelain, and he's sitting cross-legged on the floor and he motions me in and asks me to sit down. I sit down. And he said, you were a seeker. thinking well yeah made it here seeking something that's not under the umbrella of big insight And he said, you see this fire.”
2021-08-11 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #526: B. Jeffrey Madoff — Dealmaking, The Hidden Persuaders, Working with Ralph Lauren, and Finding the Secret to Life in the Mojave Desert · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I may have to reread my book. So there was this person that I heard about. Supposedly had insights into what makes life meaningful. And eternal”
2021-08-11 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #526: B. Jeffrey Madoff — Dealmaking, The Hidden Persuaders, Working with Ralph Lauren, and Finding the Secret to Life in the Mojave Desert · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“You know, I think that I didn't want her legal department contacted me. Fair enough. She never did that. He's misrepresenting. So, my criteria for a guest is have they demonstrated in some way whether it's a lecture I heard, their book that I read, an article, whatever, that they've got knowledge that I think is interesting, compelling, can bring about a change in the way people look at things, make people aware of things. So it's really, you know, it's scratching my own itch. I find what they're doing really interesting. And I love the idea of being able to talk to somebody and explore what they do and learn from what they do. Teaching is a fabulous way to learn.”
2021-08-11 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #526: B. Jeffrey Madoff — Dealmaking, The Hidden Persuaders, Working with Ralph Lauren, and Finding the Secret to Life in the Mojave Desert · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“You know, and by the way, Taylor Swift was as part of a Victoria Secret job. She didn't do my class, just to be clear. Nonetheless.”
2021-08-11 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #526: B. Jeffrey Madoff — Dealmaking, The Hidden Persuaders, Working with Ralph Lauren, and Finding the Secret to Life in the Mojave Desert · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“You know you're engaged when you are unaware of the time that passes, that you are so in the zone of the work that you're doing that time doesn't mean anything and you love doing it and that you look forward to the next time you get to do it. And that can also mean the group of people that you're collaborating with and working with, that you just enjoy that process. To me, that's what's really important is, you know, knowing and understanding why I want to do this and that it brings me fulfillment. And I think that's really important.”
2021-08-11 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #526: B. Jeffrey Madoff — Dealmaking, The Hidden Persuaders, Working with Ralph Lauren, and Finding the Secret to Life in the Mojave Desert · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I want to be engaged in what I'm doing. I want to be excited about doing it. I want to look forward to it. And I don't care how much money I'm beginning if I'm not engaged, if I'm not involved, I don't want to spend my time doing that.”
2021-08-11 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #526: B. Jeffrey Madoff — Dealmaking, The Hidden Persuaders, Working with Ralph Lauren, and Finding the Secret to Life in the Mojave Desert · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And so that starts a dialogue. So I use that as kind of a kindling in the hopes of igniting a dialogue about thinking about what is success really mean. And one of the things that I think is overlooked in so many circumstances is context and looking at that in context and looking about what success is. I mean, the nature of success to me changed when I got married, when I had kids. And then I thought of a separate definition of success when my business was going really well and that was I'd consider myself successful when I could say no without any negative financial consequences. So the freedom to say no was a big part of success for me. But now I'm at a different stage of life. And I would say that my definition of success has evolved for me into engagement.”
2021-08-11 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #526: B. Jeffrey Madoff — Dealmaking, The Hidden Persuaders, Working with Ralph Lauren, and Finding the Secret to Life in the Mojave Desert · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I think it's really important to question some fundamentals that maybe you never asked yourself. So what does success look like? I think is a really important question. And it doesn't mean by the way that your definition can't change. I mean, my personal definition has changed. But I think it's always important to sort of have your own compass going on and knowing what it is you're after, what it is that you're doing. And so some will say, well, you know, having enough money and oftentimes money is attached to this. Having enough money so that I don't have to worry about anything. And I said, so having enough money so you're not worried about anything, can you be making that much money however also”
2021-08-11 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #526: B. Jeffrey Madoff — Dealmaking, The Hidden Persuaders, Working with Ralph Lauren, and Finding the Secret to Life in the Mojave Desert · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Well, I just want to mention one, make a comment about your lawyer thing. And that is in that definition of good lawyers who can recognize a potential deal and do something, they're also kind of like if they were a doctor, they would infect you so they could treat you because they create more work for themselves by putting those deals together.”
2021-08-11 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #526: B. Jeffrey Madoff — Dealmaking, The Hidden Persuaders, Working with Ralph Lauren, and Finding the Secret to Life in the Mojave Desert · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And so he was really interested in bringing me into this mix to show them he knew people And that's really why he brought me in. He said, you know, this guy's got the fashion knowledge you need. But he's working on this film. He has a sense of what production is. You guys ought to meet. So that was why, because that was part of his selling point, was that he knew people.”
2021-08-11 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #526: B. Jeffrey Madoff — Dealmaking, The Hidden Persuaders, Working with Ralph Lauren, and Finding the Secret to Life in the Mojave Desert · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, I mean, that helped and that was certainly developed as I was doing the fashion work. That's a part of what I do is, you know, dealing in those visuals. So yeah, you're right. And I think that jargon is what separates a lot of fields as opposed to if you look at just the protocol and the practice, most businesses are the same in those very broad strokes. They're very much the same.”
2021-08-11 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #526: B. Jeffrey Madoff — Dealmaking, The Hidden Persuaders, Working with Ralph Lauren, and Finding the Secret to Life in the Mojave Desert · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And I kind of had, for whatever reason, an innate, and I can tell you the reason actually, an innate understanding of the medium. So earlier I mentioned, I think everything you do informs everything else you do. Well, when I was designing clothes, it would start with a sketch. I'd have to cost out what were the materials, what was the labor, how long would it take to get made? Could I ship it by a deadline, collect the money for it, and start the cycle over again? Well, making a film, you start off with storyboards, you know, a concept, you figure out the cost of the labor involved, the cost of the materials and rentals involved, and can you complete it by this time and deliver on deadline?”
2021-08-11 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #526: B. Jeffrey Madoff — Dealmaking, The Hidden Persuaders, Working with Ralph Lauren, and Finding the Secret to Life in the Mojave Desert · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“They wanted to specialize in fashion. And so, my knowledge of fashion had value to them. And when we first started watching some of the videos they had done together, I was able to distinguish between, like when I saw work I really liked, I said, who's that cinematographer? And then we'd watch for another hour and then something come up and said, that's the same cinematographer, isn't it? They said, yeah, how did you know? I could recognize style and recognize how it was done. And so they were interested in my fashion knowledge. That was one thing.”
2021-08-11 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #526: B. Jeffrey Madoff — Dealmaking, The Hidden Persuaders, Working with Ralph Lauren, and Finding the Secret to Life in the Mojave Desert · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“It's so convoluted how things happen, but there was a lawyer who was representing William Burroughs. And he thought I was an interesting guy. We're around the same age. He was young. And he wanted to introduce me to some people. And what I had seen that was really attractive to me is the promise of what it could be to make a film and tell a story like that. That was really exciting to me. So I met these people that were starting a company, a production company, and they asked me to join them. And I did and taught myself how to shoot, how to edit, how to light, how to do all that stuff.”
2021-08-11 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #526: B. Jeffrey Madoff — Dealmaking, The Hidden Persuaders, Working with Ralph Lauren, and Finding the Secret to Life in the Mojave Desert · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I was Notre Damas, or just somebody who realized these guys can get out of their own way. It's not happening. So they offered him four times as much money as they paid for it. And I said, take it. How long have you held the rights? You said four months. So you've quadrupled your money in four months and this film's never going to get made. Take the money and run. So the reason, Tim, that you've never seen me on the big screen is because the film never got me, but at least he got his money out of it.”
2021-08-11 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #526: B. Jeffrey Madoff — Dealmaking, The Hidden Persuaders, Working with Ralph Lauren, and Finding the Secret to Life in the Mojave Desert · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And the funny thing was that burrows would sit there and he would click off his hearing aid. Because you didn't want to listen to any of this stuff. So he clicked off his hearing aid. They'd argue and then they'd fall asleep. And then I get there the next day at around five, see the mirror with all the finger scrapings on it from the blow. And I said to Tommy. They're going to squeeze you out of this, and this movie's never going to get made. What do you mean, it's my film? And I said, these guys can't get it together to go have dinner. You know, you think that they're actually going to get a movie made? Not going to happen. Sure enough, about two weeks later, they offered him money to buy his part”
2021-08-11 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #526: B. Jeffrey Madoff — Dealmaking, The Hidden Persuaders, Working with Ralph Lauren, and Finding the Secret to Life in the Mojave Desert · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“An acting role. He wanted me to act in it, which I thought would be a blast, although it became clear that this was never going to get made because these guys were staying at that Chelsea Hotel, which was another awesome destination in New York. And they would get up at about five in the afternoon, have something to eat, then start drinking, doing blow. And by about two in the morning it had devolved into Dennis and Terry Southern arguing who actually wrote Easy Rider. They'd have the same argument. It was like, it was like groundwater. The loop would start. Yes, yes. It was like an Esher drawing, you know. And so they would argue with each other really animated arguments. They thought they were going to get into a fight, which they never did.”
2021-08-11 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #526: B. Jeffrey Madoff — Dealmaking, The Hidden Persuaders, Working with Ralph Lauren, and Finding the Secret to Life in the Mojave Desert · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I said, you know why I'm familiar with you, Dennis? He goes, yeah, man, I know, boom, boom, easy rider. And I said, actually, it's not easy rider. I said, what? I said, no, I remember all those Warner Bros. TV westerns and everybody would be wearing Hollywood wardrobe of what a cowboy looked like, but you actually had the 10 gallon hat and actual authentic cowboy clothing. He goes, man, you're blowing my mind, man. Nobody ever said that, man. You know what I would do, man? I would take my own money and I would go to Arizona. I go to Texas and I would buy authentic, actual Western clothes, man. Nobody's ever said that to me. That was my money, man. So he loved me after that that I know. We're the fashion background kicked in.”
2021-08-11 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #526: B. Jeffrey Madoff — Dealmaking, The Hidden Persuaders, Working with Ralph Lauren, and Finding the Secret to Life in the Mojave Desert · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“That is correct. That's correct. So I saw, wow, zootrope, that's Coppola's studio. Oh, there it goes. And when I met Dennis, we really hit it off. And it was kind of a weird way that we hit it off. I've never shared this before, but it's funny. I think you get a kick out of it.”
2021-08-11 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #526: B. Jeffrey Madoff — Dealmaking, The Hidden Persuaders, Working with Ralph Lauren, and Finding the Secret to Life in the Mojave Desert · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“A very big deal, and he had just come off of filming apocalypse now with Marlon Brando, another iconic film name. And Dennis would get the checks from Zootrope, which was Francis Ford Coppola's film studio. Endorse it on the back, then give it to Burroughs' assistant, and he would go out and score drugs and buy alcohol.”
2021-08-11 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #526: B. Jeffrey Madoff — Dealmaking, The Hidden Persuaders, Working with Ralph Lauren, and Finding the Secret to Life in the Mojave Desert · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“He said to me, Do you know anything about the movie business? And I said, not really. I mean, I've read some books. I love film, but not really. And he said, well, my son is your age. And you're a bright kid. You have a good head on your shoulders. Would you mind meeting him? Because he's getting involved with some people and he's not going to listen to me, but maybe he'll listen to you. Would you mind meeting with him? He's your age. No, I don't mind at all. Happy to. Will the people he was involved with was Dennis Hopper? William Burroughs. And Terry Southern. And Tommy, the son, had bought the rights to junkie, which was one of William Burroughs' novels. And Dennis Hopper was going to direct it and star in it. And so this was interesting. You know, I mean, you've got Dennis Hopper coming off of Easy Rider and then Apocalypse Now. Yeah.”
2021-08-11 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #526: B. Jeffrey Madoff — Dealmaking, The Hidden Persuaders, Working with Ralph Lauren, and Finding the Secret to Life in the Mojave Desert · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Why go to New York because I discovered I'm a stimulus junkie. I love the energy of New York, the activity. You know, if you're bored in New York, it's on you. There is so much going on all the time. And I can go hear a jazz concert, see a play, eat at a great restaurant and walk to all those places. I love it. That's why, you know, flying saucers land in Wyoming. And New York, you can't find a place to park. Was seduced by the energy of New York and wanted to be there. And one of the people I did bought fabrics from.”
2021-08-11 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #526: B. Jeffrey Madoff — Dealmaking, The Hidden Persuaders, Working with Ralph Lauren, and Finding the Secret to Life in the Mojave Desert · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So, you know, I made the decision to close down the business, and it was really based on that kind of a conversation of realizing I could never replace the time, but I could replace the money.”
2021-08-11 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #526: B. Jeffrey Madoff — Dealmaking, The Hidden Persuaders, Working with Ralph Lauren, and Finding the Secret to Life in the Mojave Desert · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT