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  1. Are unique in whatever way it might be a geeky kind of unique. It might be a cool kind of unique. It might be a quirky kind of unique. But that's, if you can own your personality, your narrative and accept that you're halfway there to this self-belief, this confidence. That also means not trying to buy into someone else's narrative. You might think you want to be the, if you're the geeky one, you might think you want to be the cool kid. You might think that you want to be playing in the first football team. You might think that you want to be sitting at that top table. But that's not necessarily where your personality wants you to be. And I think stop wanting and start being.

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  2. What are we 6.7 billion? I probably got that wrong. But in this world of many, many billions of people, there is no other Steven. That is fact. Yeah, there might be someone similar. There might be someone with the same abilities, the same body type, maybe even looks a bit like you, but you are completely unique because your personality belongs to you. Don't try and change that. Don't try and be the person that other people want you to be. Be the person you are. And it's a really hard thing to buy into because I spent so much of my life trying to be the person I thought society wanted me to be, always embarrassed that I wasn't. I was either too posh or I wasn't posh enough. I was either too successful or not successful enough. Do you see what I mean? It's almost like you're always just trying to fit in. But actually, once you own your narrative, once you're confident that you...

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  3. Don't buy into someone else's narrative. That's what you're doing by listening to the failure, whether it's absolute words coming out of someone's mouth saying, well, you're no good, whether it's even perceived.

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  4. Made the wrong decisions. We've all done that. But no, in all seriousness, I don't think I am an optimist and I try to see the positives in everything I've done and all the decisions I've made and all the things that have happened in life. And I honestly, I don't think I can say that I regret anything because it's the... The old cliche what doesn't kill you makes you stronger. And I think even those things that I could maybe say probably wasn't the best decision. Something good has come of it.

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  5. Not no, because I've tried to, it's kind of one of the ways I've tried to live life with no regrets. And you're only likely to have a regret. Me was going to say you're more likely to regret the things you didn't do than the things you did do, but I know that's not true. I think plenty of people have made

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  6. I'm scared of other people, but I'm not scared of dying, which sounds really glib, I know, but I genuinely am not. And I don't know why I've had many near-death experiences. Maybe that has, I've had to look at those clouds and think that I'm heading that way quite a few times. And maybe that is what makes you less fearful when you've been so close to it. But it's also perhaps that Kind of, I don't think I have many regrets in life. I've kind of seized those opportunities, but I'm deeply fearful for those I love and the void that would be left, which sounds really kind of egotistical, but I know how much I feared about losing my parents or loved ones when I was a child.

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  7. Yeah, and advice is bespoke. So I get, like I say, many people asking, how can I do X or Y? It depends on so many things. And I can't really give that advice. It's a bit like a doctor giving a prescription. I can't really give that unless I genuinely know what your ability is, what your aspirations are, what your mindset could be. All of these things come into it. But if we could start, you know, helping people within that context, I think we would be in a very different place.

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  8. That injury, and we can relate to it, and we winced at it. But here, what goes on beneath the skull is deemed as something kind of still a bit taboo. And it's not really taboo because people talk about it, but you still meet a lot of people who are like, nah, it doesn't care. Just get over it. Come on. Just man up. Just, you know, just believe in yourself and you'll do it. And as much as I'm saying you need this self-belief, it's far more complex than that.

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  9. Yeah, I like a battle. But the battle doesn't have to, it's not a battle within. It's not this term of a battle. I think some people think it is against another person or against a system or against a belief or you're battling against the trolls or the wokies or the fascists. I think the battles we all have are the battles within. And I think as soon as you start accepting that, that's when we will start kind of taking mental health more seriously than we do. Because it's really obvious to me that, you know, how your brain feels and what your brain is telling you is far more powerful than any cuts or broken bones that we have. And it's kind of weird, isn't it, that we still, you look at someone who's been in a road accident and think, oh, poor you, you broke your leg. You see.

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  10. Trying to improve the system. Because if the likes of you and me and other people don't do it, it's never going to happen. We can talk about it. We can sit here and look all smug kind of saying this is what needs to be done and kind of nod our heads. But if you don't action it will never happen because politicians are just busy doing their thing and they'll kind of just do what they can, but they're never going to be able to break those glass ceilings that have been set by previous generations.

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  11. Building my own self confidence, and that's quite selfish. And I would like to think of myself as more selfless. And I'd like to do things for other people. That doesn't mean I haven't done stuff and I've done a lot of charitable things and philanthropic things over the last few years. But I kind of feel I'm moving towards a time when I really would like to focus on

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  12. I think a bit like you were saying you would like to kind of tackle the education system. I would like to make a difference because I think the older you get, you're still way too young, Stephen. But the older you get, you start to question why have I done all these things? Because if you think about it, if you just break down those big challenges that we've been talking about, it's quite egotistical. You know, you climb on mountain. Hey, look at me. You walk across a pole. I get to come and sit and chat to you all about them and say how brilliant I was. But actually, what's the point? There has to be more substance to why I did those things. And more importantly, how I can translate those into something useful for other people. So I would love to, again, work on an education model, work with other people to actually be able to start making a difference. Because my life up until now has all been about me. It's been about self-building, about...

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  13. Presenting and I do adventuring, I think I'd probably quite like to Find something else whether it's acting, whether it's politics, whether it's. There you go.

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  14. What is it? Again, true to the contradictions, I think we all need goals. I think we have to have something to aspire to, something to be working towards. But I don't have, contrary to popular belief, I don't have a little black book that says, right, okay, we've done that. Now I'm going to cycle around the world and now I'm going to climb this mountain. It's not like I just have a list of things. I try to live my life as a yes man. So I like to seize opportunities. I think the human nature default of no to think about things really carefully is something I've tried to wean myself away from. And I try to kind of say yes to things on a whim a little bit more. So I think my goals are about continuing to test myself, continuing to confront failure, risking what I do. Now, given I've kind of got, you know, I write books, I do TV.

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  15. Of that to just reconnect us to where we're supposed to be really. We're not supposed to be in big cities living in apartments with your own with running water and things. It makes it very comfortable for us. But I think most of us really kind of belong in a jungle in a wood on a mountain on the ocean closer to nature.

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  16. Again, you know, nature is therapy. I mean, this is, you know, there's a lot of people who've realized, especially for mental health, you know, back to the mental health week, there's a lot of people who have seen the benefits of nature. So in Japan and Sweden for many, many years now, they've done something called forest bathing. And forest bathing is like many people do on the beach. But instead, you just go into a woods and you lie on the floor and you stare at the canopy. And just imagine now, I want, you know, everyone who's watching this, just imagine all those leaves rustling in the wind, birds, you know, because once you stop walking in a wood, so many people kind of go, we're going to go for a walk and they just march through, often have headphones on. And it's like, well, you're not connecting with that. You're racing through. But actually, if you just sit there, animals start coming out, you start noticing colors, you start noticing a flower that wasn't there. And don't never underestimate the power.

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  17. Money is seen by so many people as the cure for everything because with money you could go to Bali, you could get the better car. But once you've got it, as you know, it's like, well, actually, that was quite fleeting.

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  18. So, all this noise that we get, you know, we're here in central London right now. And when I say noise, I don't just mean the police cars and the ambulances and the pneumatic drills. I just mean all the things, the shops that are saying you should be buying this, you should be getting that, the newspapers that are telling you about other, whoever your rivals are. We all have rivals. The social media promise of someone who's having a better time than you, the someone who's someone else who's still in Bali when you're not there. It's all these things. And I do think they have a habit of making us unhappy. And it's weird, isn't it? Because we think that those are the things that will make us happy, you know, being on social media, fishing for those likes. buying into the kind of commercial world and trying to keep up with the Joneses. Now, that's where money, again, coming back to this, that's why.

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  19. There you go, right But that is such a fascinating notion, this idea that you just felt a default, just human. Just yourself.

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  20. Yeah, I've got it. I've done it. And now what? And it was this constant aspiration. So the hypothesis is that actually we're kind of adding apps almost, things to us that are making us unhappy rather than... Get rid of it. Living in a big city, get rid of it. You've just got back from Bali. Yeah. I saw a picture of you under a waterfall. I mean, how, but tell me how happy we in a nice warm place out in the jungle, in a waterfall, listening to nature all around you.

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  21. Do we find happiness? Or is it other things that are disguising the happiness and hampering it? So if you think his theory is that If you look at a child, children are by and large. They're going to be crying if they've got a dirty nappy or they're hungry or whatever. But by and large, their emotion, their default emotion is laughing. Think of children in a playground. Yes, they have little, you know, their tears come very easily, but the default is happiness. And when does that start eroding away kind of puberty and the anxiety, you know, those anxious times of when you're just, you know, when sexuality is coming into your life, all those things probably do start to affect that happiness. But then moving on in life, and this man had done fantastically well, made millions, and exactly like you were saying about the cars, as soon as he made his first million, went out and bought his Ferrari, sat in the Ferrari, and then was like,

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  22. Know I've got dyslexia. I think you might be able to go to a doctor and he might say, yes, I actually did suffer a bit of PTSD. But actually, I think if you're strong in yourself and you're strong in your self-belief and you've got a good kind of family dynamic around you, you've got a strong set of friends, I think you should be able to navigate quite well if you learn the tricks of dealing with it. And like I say, for me, it has been a lot of reading. I love, I read a lot about happiness. There's a great book about happiness. And I've got a complete mind blank of the author. But he hypothesized about happiness. Is it something that's a bit like the destination or the journey? Is happiness something we're striving for?

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  23. Nope, I think it probably showed up about. I'd say about Probably just when I started in this business and the pressures, I think, so 20 years or so, I think it started being there. And it was, I came quite late to kind of doing exercise. And it's not bulging by say, that's not my kind of form of exercise. But I went for a run just before coming here. So most days I will do something. And it just sets me up for the day. And it keeps that cloud away. Sometimes it's quite even that doesn't work. But I've just got different ways of trying to kind of keep the cloud away.

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  24. I just call the dark cloud. And even if everything in my life is perfect, I just have this kind of for a couple of days. It does kind of happen almost every month. Just a couple of kind of gloomy days when it's difficult to feel happy and optimistic. I don't think I would define it as depression because I think that would be demeaning to people who really, really suffer from what is known as depression. I have lots of friends who are suffering and have suffered from clinical depression. But I think it's human nature. I am an optimist. I am happy most of the time. But I also feel that little cloud of just darkness. And it comes and goes and I can't, I don't know when it's there or why it's there. I know when it's there, sorry. I don't know why it's there. And then it sort of disappears. And for me, sport.

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  25. Reaction to that was to try and take back control of my life, and the only way I could take back control of my life was to control my environment. And things were out of my control when there were lots of people around. And I didn't know who I was going to be talking to and about what and where and when I was going to go away. And all the things that I'd lost control of, I wanted to regain control of. And yes, anxiety definitely came into us. And I'm never suffered depression as I'd call it, but I have ever so often always coincides with the full moon, which is a bit weird, but I get, I get.

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  26. I was super anxious. No, without doubt, anxiety panic attacks, you know, all of that happened. For about a year I experienced a lot of that. Really? And I think it was because I had lost control. I wasn't able to protect my wife. I wasn't able to protect that little boy. And I think my...

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  27. Argument. And I think if you learn how to speak to one another, and that's what we have kind of been armed with, it is just a great way to kind of avoid those unnecessary arguments. Listen, some people have really fiery relationships and they thrive on it. We've got friends that kind of need that. They have big battles and flames. And then they make up and it's all fine. And I've got some friends. I just find that exhausting

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  28. I know. But it's because I think we are able to just be really, really honest there and then. And by the way, I'm not saying our relationship is really, you know, it's not one of these wedding cakes perfectly formed. And Marina, now we are armed with ways of saying to the other person, you're a bit irritable today. You seem a bit miserable. You're not much fun to be around. We can say that in a way that doesn't the other person doesn't jump to a defense going. I'm not, you're the one that's annoying me. Do you see what I mean? That it turns into that.

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  29. That speaking to someone else once a year has, I can't remember the last time we had an argument. We really haven't for years and years now, which is saying something because I'm also all for honesty in this world of kind of social media fakery. Wear my heart on my sleeve and I've always been really honest. So talking about the loss of Willem, talking about my dyslexia. But I think it's really important that you're very honest, especially if you live in a very public sphere.

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  30. Without fear of getting really emotional. Because Marina and I are also really, we do get really emotional. We probably argue once a year, but when we do, it's massive. People may be surprised because we do. We're highly emotional and we get, it's really tearful. There's no black eyes or anything, but it's a really, you know, we don't argue very well. And what we found actually was.

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  31. Kind of emotions that Marina, my wife, and I had meant that it did create tensions. So we saw someone and she was the one that suggested that once a year we just go and speak to her as a preventative. And do you know, it kind of just makes a lot of sense. You know, Marino, I've told you already, she's very straight-laced and she's very straight. And she was like, well, why wouldn't we? Why wouldn't we just go with someone there say, tell you what, I do find really frustrating, it's when you always do this or you always say that. If you do it in a home environment, the natural reaction, usually it's going to be over dinner, probably had a drink, you're going to be even more emotional and go, I don't. You'll become defensive. I defy any relationship to say that that doesn't happen. But to do it with a third party who is trained to kind of be non-judgmental is a very good way of speaking to you via that person.

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  32. I couldn't control the narrative, this narrative that I wanted to be in control of. I didn't know who was going to come up. Were they going to talk about my loss? Were they going to, there were things I couldn't prepare myself for. And those two very different approaches and two very different

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  33. Marina, we were struggling a little bit. It was such a profound thing that it affected us because we had different ways of dealing with the grief of losing that little boy. Marina was very tearful. And then she'd be totally fine. She'd have big tears and was fine. And mine, I became really introverted. And I became really antisocial. Didn't want to be anywhere. I remember trying to go to big events. I had to go to some big red carpet events and literally just arriving and just saying to the driver, just drive on. I couldn't go or I'd go to events and I'd find myself going to the Lou and just sitting in the little cubicle for the duration of the whole event. Parties, I would find myself just literally arriving, saying hello, hello, hello, and then just literally diving out the door. Because I think it's because I couldn't control.

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  34. Very impactful part of our relationship. And we sought counseling afterwards to help us through the complexities of all of those emotions And it was through that that we kind of realized that actually our own relationship, we talked about things that we hadn't talked about before, outside of the awfulness of that situation. We talked about our very different characters and how we kind of tread around one another. And I think a lot of relationships have that. You might joke about your very different personalities, but there are certain areas that you know, oh, no, I can't ever say that. I couldn't do that. Well, why couldn't you? You should be really, really honest. The best relationships are ones where you can say anything to one another without fear of offense. Now, I've already said that I've with thin skin, so I'm easily offended. And Marina has offended me many times over the years. And I've offended her. And I think this marriage counseling prevention was born out of that. And about a year afterwards,

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  35. So, there's a lot of time away, but that's how it's always been. And we have a really solid relationship. And we had a terrible tragedy about six years ago when we lost our third child, a little boy Willem, who was stillborn. So three weeks before he was due to be born naturally, unfortunately, Marina had something called a placental abruption. And he died. And it was an awful, awful experience that I've kind of spoken about before, but it affected us profoundly much more than I thought it would. This emotion of losing someone you'd never had a chance to meet is something I'd never experienced before. And I couldn't quite understand my own emotions and added to that when this will happen, I was on the other side of the world. I thought Marina was going to die. So it was a big.

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  36. Has been built on me being away a lot because outside of the time of COVID, I'm probably traveling eight months of the year.

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  37. Skin like a rhino. It's unbelievable. As in, can I just say that in terms of not ever being offended, she's got glowing skin. Her skin is really, really beautiful. She moisturizes the whole time. She doesn't have this big wrinkly gray skin. Oh my God, I'm blushing. I'm going to get in so much trouble for that. But she is. She's really tough. She's really resilient. She's no nonsense. She doesn't beat about the bush. And we're very, you know, I am, by my own admission, a much more sensitive soul. Now, it doesn't mean she isn't sensitive, but she's, she kind of calls a spade a spade. Whereas I might say, well, that is a spade, but you could probably use that as a mean. I kind of, because I want to please all the people and I don't want to offend. So I kind of find myself kind of dancing around a little bit. We're in the middle. There you go. Whereas Marina has always just been straight down the line. And our kind of our relation.

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  38. So, my wife, Marina, we've been married for, this will be our 15th year together. She's half Austrian. Thank you. She's half Austrian. And she's got.

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  39. It and I kind of do this, I dance my way through it and dip in and dip out, and I have moments where I kind of wish I hadn't, I wasn't on the middle of that stage, but I am. So I own it. And it's back to this whole thing. I do believe.

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  40. Well, if you think about it, it's a really weird thing because I'm actually, again, true to the contradictions, you know, the son of an actress, I've kind of got the jazz hands and I quite like talking and I like being on stage as such. But I'm also still quite shy. So I kind of like being in the wings. I want to be on the stage. Then I want to be in the wings. Then I want to be on the stage. And the same goes for kind of how I project myself. So I want to be part of the conversation, but then I don't want to be part of the conversation. I don't like the uncomfortableness of it. I want to be a politician, but I couldn't bear the, you know, the focus and the derision that you're going to get from one side or the other. And I actually think once you've accepted that, because I think a lot of people, I'm sure a lot of people are like that really. Once you've accepted, that's who you are, you just work out how to walk those stepping stones and kind of move around.

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  41. You think? I think the people who, because I realized that quite early on, if you haven't failed at various points through your life, then you're being too measured with the challenge that you take.

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  42. But it doesn't matter, but that doesn't matter. Surely failure, if you haven't failed, you haven't been trying hard enough.

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  43. So, I think there has to be an actual skill. And you have to earn it. I think, you know, this instant gratification just doesn't exist. There are a few examples, and you're one of those where you were able to write down, I'm going to be a millionaire, I'm going to have that Range Rover sport. And you did it. And you are what gives so many people hope.

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  44. In such a big, extreme explosion of public ridicule if it goes wrong. Now, together with that, I add this sort of confidence that, yes, I will be able to do it, but I'd prefer to start in a little pub theater with 20 people just on a smaller stage and build up because there has to be, and I think we all have to agree with this as well as this confidence and this self-belief, you have to have the skills. Yeah, if you don't have the skills, there's just no point. And we're just being delusional and it's no different to that Instagram fakery of showing people this idyllic life when actually that's just a tiny little one second of actually what was a really miserable weekend because it was the only time the sun came out and someone you threw on a bikini. I didn't withdraw on a bikini. But you know, you get my point to show that instant moment of perfection.

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  45. I'm the son of an actress, and I believe that I could be an actor. I always wanted to be an actor. I got rejected by all the drama schools, by the way, because I couldn't remember my lies. But that's a whole other thing. But I still think I could be an actor. And I have quite a confidence that I could. But if I was suddenly offered a Stephen Spielberg film, I wouldn't take that now because my ultimate goal is to try the acting thing at some stage in my life when it's appropriate, but I don't want to do it.

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  46. Think you just have to be sensible about what you're capable of. I think so it's this really fine line. I told you I'm full of contradictions. So I'm telling you, you know, I'm sitting here kind of saying to people, follow your dreams, don't be told that you can't do it. No dream is too big. Believe in yourself and you're halfway there. You know, I really do believe in all of that. But you also have to be sensible. So I think, okay, so here's the thing. I reckon that I...

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  47. Even though I like to confront risks, I like to be realistic with those. So K2 is a far more dangerous mountain than Everest. I could have gone straight to K2, but instead I want to do a sensible building block up to that ultimate challenge. And I think right back to television, I think if you take too big a leap, then the reality of continued success is eroded away.

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  48. Now, for many people, it's the famous Andy Walhart only 15 minutes. It doesn't last very long because what happens is there's no substance to it. There's no roots. And what happens is the next show comes along and they're cast aside. But what also a lot of people do is that the leap from one brick to the next is too high. And if you go too big, it's doomed to failure. I remember, funnily enough, I think one of the reasons why me, a reality show contestant, is still working in TV after 21 years, because I should have, my 15 minutes was up a long time ago. I think the reason is more because of the things that I turned down than the things that I agreed to do. So I turned down some pretty big shows, big prime time Saturday night shows that a lot of people who work in TV would be like, I would do anything for that. But the leap was too big. And I didn't believe that.

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  49. It's the building blocks of life, isn't it? It comes back to that. So if you, you know. The series of challenges and things that I've done in my life have slowly built themselves up. So I started on that year living on an island in the Outer Hebrides. Now, if you strip that back, it was pretty simple. It couldn't really fail. It was hard work. It was hard being away from people. No contact with the outside world, no phones, mobiles, family. I didn't see anyone for a whole year, just this small group of people. Well, once I did that, it was kind of like the foundations. I was like, oh my gosh, well, I've done this. And then I put the next block in, which was running the marathon day Saab, six marathons in six days. I'd never even run 100 meters, Stephen. And suddenly here I was agreeing to run across the Sahara Desert. And I managed to get through that. I came last, but...

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  50. I do believe in that mindset. Believe you can. Aunt Middleton, who's been on here, he's another keen advocate of that. Just believe in yourself, this positive mindset. But the positive mindset has to also marry up with ability and skill.

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