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Ben Mezrich

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“Well, but the problem is that no one wants to trust Facebook with their money. You don't want them in your wallet. I believe if Amazon had launched this instead of Facebook, it would have been a huge success. And suddenly everyone and their mother would be using crypto. Apple could pull it off as well. Facebook is the absolutely wrong company to attempt to pull this off. And we're seeing it all fall apart. I mean, I don't know that Libra actually ever gets off the ground. Maybe it will. I mean, Mark's shown us wrong many, many times. But everyone's backing out of it.”
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“I mean, who knows? I mean, I think Mark's goal was to run for president and honesty. I think his whole goal was to take over, and it all fell apart because everyone will take over.”
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“Something called Libra, which is a stable coin, which means it's a cryptocurrency but tied to the dollar and the euro. Yeah, it is to be used on Facebook. It's one-to-one places. And the idea is everyone who has a Facebook account will suddenly have a bank account. They'll have a crypto account, an electronic wallet, and you can buy and sell things with Libra dollars. And to do this, he got a whole bunch of internet people together, heads of all these big companies to be on the board or whatever you wanted to call it. So it didn't just look like Facebook. Right.”
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“Really crazy. This is where it gets crazy to me. Will be forever. It can't be a coincidence. Very much disagreed with me And I said, On him that this would look a little weird. Mark would pick Scorpio, but go ahead”
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“With Libra. Yeah, so this is really crazy. Jesus. This is where it gets crazy to me. Now, I truly believe that the Winklevoss twins and Mark Zuckerberg are locked in this crazy battle and will be forever. I believe they wake up with anger towards Mark every day because they feel he stole Facebook. And he wakes up every day thinking about them. And my proof of that is Libra. How do you launch a coin, a crypto coin, and call it Libra after your mortal enemies launch something called Gemini? It can't be a coincidence. I actually got into a Twitter war with David Marcus over this. Very much disagreed with me and said he came up with the name Libra. And I said, well, yeah, but when you pitched it to Mark, did it not dawn on him that this would look a little weird? So Mark attempted or is still attempting more.”
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“H-O-D-LODLERS Yeah, hold on for dear life. So there are holdlers and they're also running the big exchange. I think Gemini is on its way to being the biggest exchange.”
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“A partial it. Yeah, there's a fee. And then there's their Bitcoin. They still have, as far as I know, 200,000 Bitcoin. I mean, they haven't dumped it. They believe very strongly in it. So they've got a billion, almost $2 billion in Bitcoin.”
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“And not just Bitcoin. They were trying to do that for a while and get it controversial as well. I don't understand what it is, but I think it's. And the way they make money. So they're taking a fee And they get a fee, a partial.”
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“Avenue, it's all as an exchange. So just like, you know, the big exchanges are worth billions of dollars now because of the amount of money that's traded through these exchanges.”
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“Our economy is going to be the biggest one. What we go doing now that are so they run a company called Gemini, which is a crypto exchange where you can buy and sell currency. And the difference between their exchange and other exchanges is that it's New York based, that it's at some levels guaranteed by the New York financial system. Their goal is to have it completely regulated in a way that you feel safe just like you put your money into. Not just Bitcoin. They're attempting to do an ETF. I mean, they were trying to do that for a while and getting into these nifty tokens, which I don't understand what it is, but I think it's some form of objects you can buy are the same way people buy trading cards and things like that. But I think for them, Bitcoin and being the Bitcoin exchange or the exchange for all these different cryptos is their future. They believe this is a big part of our world going forward. And so I think Gemini became something very big. It's grown. I don't know if you walk in there. It's insane. You walk in and it's like three floors.”
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“It is and it isn't. What's going to happen 20 years? Where's China going? What's really going to be the global currency 20 years from now? Is it going to be the dollar? I mean, there's no reason to believe right now that”
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“Right, well, there's lots of coins. I mean, there's Ripple, there's all these other coins out there. The question is what's going to be the coin that we're going to use, right? And so Libra was an attempt at that, I think. Okay, we'll get to that. But the idea of a coin that we're going to use, I personally believe it will be probably a stable coin. It will be a coin that's tied to other fiat currency because that's something we can all understand instantly. It's not going to be something successful in my opinion until people like my parents are going to use it.”
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“It's like gold. It's like gold, but better because it's gold that I can carry around in my phone that I can transfer instantly that's liquid. It's liquid gold, which I think makes it very valuable. So I see Bitcoin continuing and going up from here. Now, I'm not a guy who recommends anything. I owned pets.com and WorldCom. Every stock I've ever bought has got a zero. He's got a company now, though. Right, right. There's an interesting, real, real. Yeah. Yeah. But I'm not a financial person in any way, shape, or form.”
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“Right, and we can, but the idea of it as a store of value, of a way of hiding your money away from the troubles of the world, I think Bitcoin has an important place there.”
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“Yeah, the price is crazy. It feels very tulip-y. Well, here's the thing about Bitcoin. The price isn't necessarily the best way to view where Bitcoin or cryptocurrency is going. It's all the infrastructure being built around it, all the companies around it. I personally believe that Bitcoin is going more like gold. It's not going to be a cryptocurrency that we use to buy things every day because the price is so volatile.”
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“Yeah, I mean, it's a little scary because if people think you have Bitcoin, once they take your Bitcoin, they have your Bitcoin. It's not like you can trace it or get it back.”
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“Yeah, I mean, you definitely, Bitcoin has interesting security issues because it's like carrying a safe of gold around with you all the time. If it's on your phone, you could have millions of dollars on your phone. And so there have been kidnappings, there have been things like that. I know people who keep it on a ring, they have their Bitcoin hash on a ring or they tattoo it on their body, things like that have happened.”
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“What is it called? Yeah, so you get your hash. So when you buy Bitcoin, you get this string of numbers, and that is your Bitcoin. So security becomes a really big part of this whole thing. So what the twins do, which is kind of crazy, is they printed it up on little pieces of paper, and then they cut the paper into little pieces, and they fill a backpack with it, and they went across the middle of the country and got safe deposit boxes, all in these little Midwest banks, and would fill them with these pieces of paper. So their billions in Bitcoin is spread over all these Midwestern banks that have no idea they have more money in a safety deposit box than they have in their entire bank. And that's the way they keep it secure. Then they get back to New York and they put on goggles and got sledgehammers and they smash the computers that they had downloaded their hash on. They smashed the routers. They smashed the printers so that nobody could steal or steal them, right?”
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“Just like the internet. Right, it's a free social media. It's very similar to what Facebook promised to be, which was to give you the power over your own world, over your own wallet the same way Facebook was supposed to be over your own profile, your own life, your own data. So the idea is you don't need a bank, you don't need a government, you just need your little electronic wallet and you can walk into a store and buy something.”
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“And trying to figure Because a lot of people in that community want to use it Involved with government or things like that. Just like the internet, the good concept behind it is that currency is badly done for most people. And most people across the globe do not have an availability. They're unbanked and they don't have a currency that's stable and could disappear unlike the United States. And so the concept behind it is actually a very... Optimistic one, just like the internet. Right, it's a free social media”
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“There were all these other coins and trying to figure out some of them were respectable, some of them were just fly by night. It was a crazy time. And what the twins, I think, brought to the table was this idea that it should be regulated, that it should be part of the financial system, which at the time was very much controversial in that community. Because a lot of people in that community want to use it. They want to use it to not pay taxes. Some people want to use it to be not have to be involved with government or things like that.”
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“Roger Vaire put up the other money, and he's another great character who's this kind of crazy anarchistic libertarian who was in jail for a number of years and then fled the country and lives in Japan and was known as Bitcoin Jesus. So these were sort of the investors in BitInstant. So the twins invested in this company and began traveling the world pushing this new form of money. But what's interesting about them is they became sort of this liaison to the Wall Street world because they're the guys in suits. Even though they were the bad guys in the social network, they came with this hue of respectability. They weren't the libertarian anarchists on Silk Road buying problems.”
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“Yeah, you had to buy it from these shady sites in the middle of nowhere. So he created an American-based company, and the twins were his first or second investors. So the twins invested $1.5 million in his company.”
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“And they invested in bit instant, which was by Charlie Schrem. This is another big character in the story. It was an 18 year old kid living at his mother's basement who was in the Syrian Jewish community. He was in this very kind of restricted world. And his escape was the internet. He discovered Bitcoin early, started a company where you could buy Bitcoin because at the time it was very hard to buy Bitcoin. Yeah, and store.”
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“It could be a billionaire right now. Yeah, right. Okay, sure. So the twins bought 1% of all of it. They bought 200,000 coins. And then they became Bitcoin proselytizers who went around the world”
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“No. Because you were in that world. You probably do it. There used to be websites called Fawcets you would go to where they would just pour Bitcoin into your computer.”
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“It's in a garbage somewhere. All these people I know are just when Bitcoin exploded. Everyone's like looking for their old hard drives and old computers”
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“It's crazy, right? So the twins bought 200,000 Bitcoin, they bought 1% of it. They spent $100 on it. You spent $100 and you made 10 grand and then you lost $10 grand.”
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“You know, I had Bitcoin. I lost it. I did a story because what's his name? Wences Casaresares. I was doing a story on him right at the beginning. And he's like, try it out. And so I bought 10 and I put him on a hard drive.”
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“I'm sure they come to you all the time to say they're Satoshi Nakamoto. And whoever it is is gone, is either dead or in jail or whatever. But anyways, once it got started, it really picked up after the country of Cyprus went bankrupt. This is the moment for Bitcoin because at the time Bitcoin was in the tens of dollars and then Cyprus went bankrupt and the government that night to solve their bankruptcy problems went to everyone's bank accounts and took 50% of your money if you had over 100,000 euros. And all of these rich people in Cyprus realized this can happen. A bank can just take your money. A government can just take your money and they wanted a form of money that couldn't just disappear overnight.”
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“And it's limited to exactly 21 million coins. And it was started by this crazy mysterious guy calling himself Satoshi Nakamoto, who launched it on the world in 2029, 2010, on a white paper on the internet and then vanished, never to be heard from again. And this person is probably not Japanese, probably not just one person.”
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“Exactly. And so the value of Bitcoin is entirely in how much we believe it's worth. It's very similar to gold in that respect because gold is only worth what we agree it's worth.”
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“Yeah, we don't know what Bitcoin is. Yes. So Bitcoin is digital money. It's money that I can send directly to you, right? A currency or a store of value, depending on what you believe, that I can send to you instantly via my phone or a computer the way you send a text or an email. There's no middleman. There's no bank between us. There's no government between us. So it's different than Venmo or PayPal. It's something that I could send a dollar.”
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“They had flown to Ibiza and had beaten their money there. So they had tried to book a villa in Ibiza and had gotten there and their money hadn't arrived yet because of the way money transfers work. And so it was this moment when someone was pitching to them on this instant cryptocurrency and they were having financial problems because they had gotten there before their money that kind of dawned on them that maybe there's something here. And I think it was Cameron, it might have been Tyler who said this is either the next big thing or it's bullshit. But that for them is where their journey started.”
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“And it turns out he was afraid they were going to beat him up. And so he said the only way I'll meet with you, I'll meet with one of you, and they met in a glass room in the center of a law firm, and all the lawyers sat in a ring around this room. This is true. This is what happened. Cameron goes into the room with Mark and they have a conversation. They come out of the conversation and Mark settles with them for $65 million. They didn't like this settlement, so they took it in stock, which ended up being a brilliant thing because after the IPO, it became worth hundreds of millions of dollars. And they decided to become Silicon Valley investors. So they went out to Silicon Valley and tried to invest. And nobody would take their money. Yeah, I remember that. Because everyone's endgame is to sell the Facebook. And Mark does not like them, so nobody wanted to touch their money. So they went to a visa to party, and they were on the beach in a visa, right? I mean, that's what you do, right? And they were hanging out on the beach when this strange guy came up to them and said, you guys are the Winklevie, right? And having seen them in the movie.”
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“So, what happened was, so they settled with Mark Zuckerberg. And he had all this money. And the book, the way Bitcoin billionaires opens, is the settlement was kind of an insane situation. So basically Mark was pushing back, pushing back, pushing back. They were trying to get him to settle because they really believe he stole their idea. And finally, Cameron says to Mark's lawyers, we're all just a bunch of kids who went to college together. Let's just all sit down in a room and talk it out. No lawyers. Let's just sit down. So they bring this presentation to Mark. And Mark's lawyers come back to the twins and say, you know what? He has some concerns.”
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“Right. And they own Gemini. They own cryptocurrency now. So it was this juxtaposition of the guys you didn't expect with all these libertarian anarchists and the Roger Vers of the world and these kind of crazy personalities. That's what really got me interested in it”
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“I understood that criminals were using it to buy drugs. I understood that the price was just the same. It's just the same thing. But the idea behind it is sort of the future of money, it really turned me on. And it wasn't about the math necessarily, but it was about the twins, about the guys in suits who Larry Summers throws out of his office are suddenly behind this weird revolution. And that seems strange to me. And they were marketing.”
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“Has gone up and down and up and down. I mean, it comes from a shady place. It comes from a shady anarchistic libertarian crazies as the one who started Bitcoin. Right. I never had any interest in Bitcoin. I think the word blockchain is the worst word ever invented. It makes me nauseous. It's just a horrible concept. I'm not a math guy. I had no interest in Bitcoin. And then a year and a half ago or two years ago, I read this headline, The New York Times that said the Winkle Vos twins were the first Bitcoin billionaires. And the reason that made me interested was because I saw them as everyone else saw them. I wrote the book that was a social network. They were the dumb jocks, the big blonde guys. How could they possibly be billionaires in their own right? And so I called them up out of the blue. And they weren't angry with me happily or maybe a little, but not so bad. Went out to New York and met with them again. And I saw them in this new role. They were pushing crypto, but they really, really believed. And they proceeded to tell me why they believed.”
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“Very Just be a dumb jock. People really. So talk about the reason you were focused on Bitcoin, because Bitcoin's gone up and down and up and down. It sort of reminds you of the early internet at the same time. There's all these sort of con men and I mean, it comes from a shady place. It comes from shady.”
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“I mean, they come across as very intimidating, as very large, blonde, privileged people from this billionaire Connecticut family. And so, yes, so that was an unfair portrayal, I feel like, in some ways. I think it works, the meme aspect of it is amazing, and I think there is this juxtaposition going on. But the reality of them is much different. I mean, they're incredibly smart guys. They speak multiple languages. To become Olympic athletes, you can't just be a dumb jock. I mean, the amount they put into it. And the fact that they became part of this Bitcoin revolution is not an accident. You don't get struck by lightning twice. It's very unlikely. Who has second acts like this? Which is why I frame the whole book, like the Count of Monte Cristo, where you, you know, it's like they disappeared and suddenly ride back into town with their billions. There's more going on there than people really.”
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“So in the movie of the Winklevoss Twins in that movie were the alpha males. They were the bad guys in the 80s movie. They were the dumb jocks. When I first met that way. I met them at a hotel room and when they walked into the room they reminded me of everybody who chased me around high school and I was hiding in a locker from the Winklefos twins because I was a little nerd as well. And so a lot of that has to do with how I wrote accent of billionaires. A lot of it has to do with how Aaron Sorkin wrote the social network and a lot of it has to do with how Army Hammer and all his airied glory played the Winkleboss twins. But they really were this opposite of Zuckerberg. I mean, you see them in person. It's a spectacular opposition of people. But I got to know them after the fact and discovered much more about them. So when I wrote Accident Billionaires, I knew very little about them beyond their personas and their anger toward Zuckerberg. Yeah, they look like.”
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“Him a while. I think it's That's the best way to Absolutely, and that's the reason he didn't talk to me as well, is because he couldn't control what I would write. I think he made a big mistake by not sitting down and just talking to me. Because the reality is the way I write my books, I mean, Janet Maslin is one who calls me the billionaire's best friend. I worship my characters. I love my characters. And I turn them into heroes because that's my goal.”
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“No, not at all. It took him a while. I think it was Cheryl and others worked on him. But I was like, make a joke of it. Shoe up, meet Jesse Eismow, go, you look like me. Like, do things like control the narrative. I was like, control the narrative. That's the best way to do it. But he was, you know, I think it was just vexing that he didn't have control of the narrative. Absolutely. And that's the reason he didn't.”
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“I think The perception of Mark now is incredibly negative. You know, when he didn't embrace it, because he was like, I'm not going to, I'm like, come to the premiere with me. I was invited. You are the reason behind it.”
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“He was a lovable nerd. People loved Jesse Eisenberg. It wasn't like a hatred. I think he's way worse now because of what he's doing in reality. The perception of Mark now is incredibly negative.”
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“The way he reacted to the social network, first he went after it, and then he embraced it. He went on Saturday Net Live. He gave a hundred million dollars to the Newark school system or Trenton school system, I forget. He was on the cover of Time magazine. It created this mythology about Facebook that changed Facebook. He did him a favor an enormous way. I don't think the IPO would have been the IPO without the social network. We wouldn't be talking about, I mean, at the time, people were telling me that some large percentage of applications to Harvard had stories in them about they had watched the social network and had made them want to go to Harvard. Oh, that's true. It changed a generation of people of how they thought about Silicon Valley and entrepreneurship. And so for better or for worse, it created the legend of Mark Zuckerberg. I mean, Jesse Eisenberg is more Zuckerberg than Zuckerberg.”
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“Like, what do you care And you know what? I personally believe the Social Schneider was the greatest thing that ever happened to Mark Zuckerberg. Tell me why that. And I'll tell you a number of reasons. First of all, if you remember the sequence of what happened,”
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“It gets Eduardo right All right, well, let's get to that. All right, so the movie comes out. I remember right before it premiered, he was very upset. That's the sweating interview. That's when that happened. That's right. One of the things he said to me that I thought I did have some sympathy for him, he goes, this is what people are going to see this and think I'm that person and I'm not that person. And I was like, oh, it's a movie. What do you care? You're all so Mark Zuckerberg. You get to have a belief. Like, what do you care? And it was an interesting conversation because he that really bothered him that this would be the version of him that would go down in history.”
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“I think in a lot of ways the social network gets these characters correct. It gets Sean Parker right, I think. Oh, yeah. It gets Eduardo right. And it definitely got Mark right. I think that's it. I think it's the Winklevos twins, which now I would say we'll get wrong. And we'll get to that.”
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