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  1. Church is a good example. I grew up singing all the time and people around me, when we sang in schools. And now we got iPods. Aren't we lucky with the iPods? And then we fought along you stop singing and you start listening to your iPod. So, technology has been unbelievable blessing, and what a curse it has been for us.

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  2. Just United play or something like that. Yeah, we do. I think we should say it to ourselves because I need to do more of that also. Yeah, well, we kind of just assume.

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  3. I think there's something deeper. Oh no, it's that connection. Passing that ball somebody catching it, you know, I made a difference. Playing music. My little piece of music that I made made a better place. Being in a theater group, being a cook. There's many dimensions along which you can do that.

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  4. So you have to discover what worked for you. And that's a very tough one because you'll feel stupid and ignorant. And if something is not helping you, it is very hard for yourself. This is not helping me because this person is not helping me rather than blaming yourself. There must be something wrong with me that is not helpful for you. making that distinction is a very tough one. I know it from my experience. I've been in treatments for long periods of time, despite all my qualifications where it took me a long time to go like, I'm wasting my time and my money. And if you don't have my education and background, it's even harder to say I'm wasting my time and my money.

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  5. The question is where do I get the help I need? I think that's really the big thing because it is so hard. It is such an exploration. Almost everybody who I know who have found a way of getting better has been an explorer. and quite an accidental explorer. And then I found this Kavadi teacher. And then I found this yoga teacher. And then I found this psychodramatist. But it's very largely accidental. I think the mainstream is not on the right road.

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  6. Contract it with adult information. Yeah Have life experienced where people come to your help? And I think being part of a sports team, being part of a theater group, being part of a musical group where people really feel, now it's your turn.

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  7. Well, the critical issue is that trauma is about being helpless and not nobody coming to your rescue. And so it's very important to have the experience that if you really cannot do something or you're scared, that somebody comes to your help at this point. And you get an imprint that even when I feel really bad, somebody will come and be there for me And that is what many people miss. Having a drunk imparent. So we see this all the time in our practice. People have a violent parent, usually the violent person, not always. Mum or dead in my case mom or dead to my mom turns a blind eye. and doesn't say I'll take care of you even though the other parent is hurting you and that betrayal Of a parent to let the other parent do terrible things to them and not really say, no, you cannot do this to my kid is a huge thing for many people.

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  8. And the more nuclear you get, the harder it gets to keep your pathology out of your kids' life, actually. So community is everything, also in terms of raising a child.

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  9. Be sure to listen to people in your environment. Don't raise them by yourself. I think raising a kid by yourself. You'll give the full brunt of your pathology. So it's very important for a kid to be raised by a number of people. So the kid gets to say, oh, my dad is a little bit reactive, but my neighbor across the street is much calmer. And so the kid gets to see multiple perspectives as all of us idealize African villages as people having many different parents who look after you. It takes a village. It takes a village. I think kids need to be really part of a larger environment where they can see their parents as safe people, but also flawed people.

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  10. How well is your brain able to filter out irrelevant information? How well is your brain able to be still and quiet? And how well are you able to take on the task and complete it?

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  11. I teach neurofeedback, and there's a chapter on neurofeedback, serious research in neurofeedback, and we do neurofeedback trainings. So the head of an insurance company took a training with me in neurofeedback, and he pulled me aside and said, Bessel, of course, you know, that as a head of insurance company, I'm not interested in getting people better. I'm interested in having as many subscribers to my band as I can. You know, if we really went back to being real doctors, we say, how do I get you better? What is wrong with you? And we know so much about neuroscience these days, about how the brain organizes information that it's time to actually update ourselves to 2024 and start thinking about networks in the brain and what part of the brain is connected with bot and mental functioning at different ages and what kids understand at age three, which is different from age five. Think in terms of

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  12. But just is it sort of artifact of us sitting in a room 40 years ago making up little lists of diagnoses? There's no scientific validity to this. Actually, PTSD is one of the more scientifically reliable diagnosis of all the diagnosis. They're just very primitive ways of categorizing human mind. And we know so much more and we should move beyond that. And everybody knows something about science, knows that we should move beyond it. But we are not. I think we're not doing it because our focus is not on helping people. Our focus is on bonding successful financial organizations.

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  13. Albert, I wouldn't say that. I'd say it could be genetic. It could be toxic. It could be trauma. The surface behavior. Of not being able to focus and concentrate. Like my son certainly had mad criteria ADHD. My son, other than that he disappointed me, was not a particularly traumatized kid. No, he really had real issues. Organically based, but that he outgrew also at some point. So these things are not stable, these are configurations that you can grow with over time. And they're not multifactorial. The surface phenomena

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  14. Some people have more than others. Some people cannot sit still at all and other people can sit still under certain conditions. Other people can. So it's not like you have ADHD or not. You may have some issues staying focused or staying still or paying attention that may be very many underlying issues. It may be that your mom took some toxins while you were just breaking with you. It's possible that it is in your genes just about every traumatized kid I've ever seen met crit criteria for ADHD because trauma really messes up your capacity to focus and concentrate. So this is not an entity. It is a fictitious entity. It's not like cancer of the gallbladder. Not having astrocytoma in your brain. These mental phenomena are networks of complicated ways of organizing your mind. And our diagnostic system just sucks.

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  15. I really see that somewhat differently from the way you guys talked about it before. And that is all these things are on a continuum. You don't have PTSD or PTD or you don't have ADSD or you don't have ADHD. These are no binary issues. This capacity to focus, to pay attention, to be flexible in your attention.

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  16. Role playing by Kivili because you work in three-dimensional space, it feels much more real. And so, but therapists usually have this hope that if I'm respectful and caring towards you, I'll give you a reparative emotional experience that will give you the feeling of what it would have liked been like if you had gotten that in the past. And what my old teacher about it said about it's a mismatch. I as an 18-year-old guy cannot give you as a 30-something year old guy the feeling of what it'd been like if your mom would have loved you at age three. We cannot do that. But in the theatrical enterprises in three-dimensional space, they're very physical, you do get an imprint of, oh, that is what it felt like. That's what I was missing. So it's a very powerful way of creating a virtual reality.

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  17. I do it about four times a year with a group of people. It's my favorite clinical activity because I'm always just so Astounded by what comes out of it. No, no.

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  18. And then you choose somebody and I encourage you to see how you would like that person to hold you. And when you have that, you usually have a very deep emotional release and say, oh my God, if my dad would have helped me like that when I was three years old or five years old or eight years old and I needed it, my life would have been completely different. And so you make a virtual new reality. This does physical and visceral with other people. And that memory of what it feels like can be very profound.

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  19. It overlaps quite different from what the story that people tell, actually. It brings up this three dimensional. And oftentimes people have had harsh and neglectful fathers. And then what I say at some point after you sort of do things with him, I may even say you want to hit your dad. I might actually. Do that actually have you hit your dad, put a pillow in front of it, have some people, but they feel it, oh my God, if I could have done that, would it be so great? Or how guilty I feel? So you do something virtually, but you could never do in your words. And then I would say, would you like to pick somebody in this room to play the role of the dad that you always wanted?

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  20. Doesn't come up abstractly but concretely when you're sitting there comes up. I'm the Bosnav. I hated your being the boss or something comes up. And what is striking is that for everybody, when they put that virtual person in the room, the feelings toward that person become very vivid.

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  21. Played a role for you, the feeling super dad would come up, maybe even in your imagination to some degree right now, if you imagine your dad there was the first thing that comes to your mind.

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  22. I put him there. Not there, but there. So that's what the hell's happening here. You know precisely where you want him. And if somebody would.

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  23. Yeah, the chap's on the book, and I've never done the science behind it, but I still love doing it. And that is when you act out things in three-dimensional space, it becomes a completely different phenomenon. If I tell you, let's put your family in this room. And I say, but you choose somebody to play the role of your dad. Where would you put your dad? You know where you

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  24. Healing is a complex word. I would say yes, I'm doing well. as do many people I've worked with I think the real power of my book is that it's a very hopeful book every chapter tells stories about people who are better and as much sciences have been able to do I've proven how helpful EMDR can be I've proven how well yogurt can be I've proven how well your feedback can do that really has been my mission is to not only be an advocate but really say let's do the science and see how well it works and for whom.

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  25. Well, it had some other experiences. Also, I've had a number of other really painful experiences in psychedelics. And it made me much more. So, you know, people say, oh, how's your life going? I became much more aware to what degree my quest for understanding trauma had to do with me. And I learned most of that after age 70, actually.

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  26. Issues are about right now, and I think we may very well lose that, and that is that clearly you need to do psychedelics in very safe conditions with a lot of support. And that the set and setting of psychedelics, which Jones Hopkins study also took very good care of all the studies you mentioned, did that, is that the context is terribly important. And while you in these experiences, the environment needs to be completely supportive and safe and be there for you. Our world profit-driven world is looking for is to give people psychedelics, give them one pill, and go off by yourself and then deal with it. The majority of the people in our study said to us, and the study was over, I couldn't have done this.

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  27. Absolutely. I really felt all the pain Much more deeply. Able to sort of wall it off under that point and the ball came down and it was quite painful. But would help me is that my guide, Michael Midhofer, when I told him how I felt like a failure having had such painful experience, he said, yeah, I know. I used to be in an emergency room physician and what are my psychedelic experiences, all the patients who died in my hands came to visit me. That was helpful for me because it made me feel like I had a connection with another human being. And so that context is terribly important. And that's really what March of the...

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  28. Of course. As part of my being PI MDMA study had to do MDMA. But for example, I thought MDMA was ecstasy and gave place of pleasure as part of my job. I had to take MDMA myself and I was ready for my magical experience. I'd never done it before. And instead, I had always poo-pooed the issue of vicarious trauma. No, it didn't really hurt me all that much to see all this trauma in the world. And while I was having my MDMA experiences, all the trauma test peoples pain that I had experienced over time came back. I lied there for eight hours in agony going, oh my God, oh my God. And I got in touch with that hearing all these trauma stories did have had a profound effect on me. And so I was really changed by that MDMA experience. I became a much sadder but somewhat wiser man.

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  29. That's right. But ketamine is. And we do a fair amount of academy just as a therapy these days. And I'm intrigued that ketamine seems to have similar effects to psilocybin and MDMA, even though they're completely different chemical substances.

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  30. That is the main paper on which I'm also an author gets quoted. What I think is more important, not whether the PTSD did so well, but people's relationship to themselves changed. And my other paper describes that actually, but it doesn't get quoted as much. People can focus on the PTSD. The real issue is do you love yourself? Is your heart open? Are you open to new experiences? Not do we have this little list of symptoms in the PTSD scale, but are you a human being who embraces himself as a human being?

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  31. We're so vivid deep down inside, and I think oh this poor kid, look what they went through he was so little, he was so small he couldn't defend himself and so you get this very deep sense of self compassion instead of the usual response of self hatred and self-blame. And then the next thing that we saw happen all the time is, and I was such a beautiful kid and I had this alcoholic violent father not talking about myself, but good and my poor dad, he never got to really enjoy this beautiful kid that he had. And they have compassion for their perpetrators. It's an astounding compassion opening drug, which is what we have been looking for in so many areas in life.

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  32. I saw that the therapy would be very helpful in many of these guards and it turned out that the therapy didn't make that much of a difference a little bit but the MDMA vastly Change the situation I wrote up the paper but actually astounded by how little that paper gets quoted. I mainly focus on the so-called secondary data of the study, which was how trauma changes your experience of yourself. And what we saw is that people became much more aware of themselves. People had compassion for themselves. So people oftentimes went into their traumatic experience and had this sense of time of oh my God, this happened to me. That was so awful. Happened to me personally also actually on psychedelics of Things coming up that you were unaware of.

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  33. Ask me about it fifty years ago or something. And I said, I think it's a great idea because when you are traumatized, you live in a very constricted world. Basically, the trauma dominates your perceptions and regularly interferes with your exploring larger realities. And I think in theory, having a psychedelic experience, an mind-opening experience would be very helpful, but I discourage them from doing it because they thought it was too they'll never get by the regulatory practices. And then they waste enough money and asked me if I wanted to run the Boston side of a very large study, which was eager to do where we compared very good psychotherapy by people who I largely had trained with psychotherapy plus MDMA. And the results were stunning.

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  34. There's my own personal background. Of course, I'm a child of the 60s, so I knew about LSD, and I think LSD for me at that time, I became a good medical student. came with the culture, stop taking drugs. But my memory of taking LSD was very positive. And at that time, I got to see that I'm a very small part of a very large universe and whatever constructs I make in my mind are just very small constructs of a much larger reality. And over time, I've had quite a few of my friends have become very good scientists. They say the same thing about her early LSD experiences of really truly having opened up their minds to many possibilities. But in the culture changed and they became illegal, criminalized, and people stopped doing that. And then Rick Dublin and Michael Mithoffer started to open up the world of psychedelics and

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  35. Yeah, but that gesture is not the right gesture. Like, oh, you're just doing that because if you're being dismissive, instead of saying, good for you, you're doing that because you felt so helpless and you want to build up your bulk. Interesting. My association is that I testified on behalf of many people who were abused by Catholic priests. And almost to a person they had become weightlifters and bodybuilders. Legally, for the reason that you also mentioned, they were just trying to bulk up to feel a sense of agency and power. And it didn't work well enough for them. So that alone wasn't enough. I think you also need to make the connection with the helplessness.

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  36. That's interesting. One of my close colleagues, former friend, is a weightlifter. And she really is very committed that lifting weights can be extremely helpful for trauma. And when she says that, I'm sure that's true for her. And I'm wondering how many other people that's true. The trouble is that in their current system, you're not going to get the money to study weightlifting for trauma. Even though you say it's helpful for you, my friend Mariah said it's helpful. I go like interesting. Let's see for how many people it's helpful.

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  37. Not the tents become a very solitary experience also. You sitting in your little treadmill watching Fox News is not my ideal trauma treatment.

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  38. Well, it's a very important piece. And I very much think that's a very big missing piece in the therapy, mental health, and medical field in general, to give people experiences of connection and pleasure. That is terribly important. But when I wrote this book before I got into psychedelic therapies, I would add another dimension of experiences that really blow your mind, that really allow you to have an alternate reality experience also.

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  39. I started life off as a psychopharmacologist. I did the first studies ever on Prozac and Zoroff for PTSD. And so they're not bad. They can be helpful to people

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  40. No, basically I'm such a cerebral person. So I'm very suspicious of that piece. That's explaining things, understanding things is not my greatest handicap. So I tend to downplay that, the importance of it.

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  41. Well, I happen to know. If you have been beaten up or molested, human touch tends to become very complicated. And so you may not feel comforted by human touch. And other humans may not have a comic effect in your body, which is really what we're supposed to have in each other. So learning to live in a body that can be touched is quite important.

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  42. Well, because I have done the research now and our results were really quite stunning, much better than I ever expected, actually. But I may tell you, no, you're not ready for psychedelics. I think you should really do some neurofeedback and some body practices to live more in your body before we start blowing your mind open.

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  43. The vacuum is supposed to develop nice slow waves to tell you I'm feeling peaceful. When you traumatize, when I ask you to close your eyes, it is very likely that the back of your brain will get agitated and create much faster waves than you should, and so you get a sense of agitation the moment you close your eyes, which is, of course, very detrimental to your health. So my job then becomes how to train your brain so that when you close your eyes, your back of your brain becomes very calm. up it's again it's not this is not about trauma it's about brain organization So trauma leads the brain organization, but you don't treat the trauma, you treat the brain disorganization.

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  44. But it depends on where it is. So the back of your brain is supposed to have these slow waves because back of the brain is dealing with the housekeeping of your body. The back of your brain tells you you have to breathe a little bit more, you have to go to the bathroom, you have to eat, you have to bodily regulation. Very large part of your brain is about your body regulation, which got messed up in a major way by trauma. For example, when you close your eyes,

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  45. Your feedback is you hook your skull up to electrodes that can harvest underlying brain waves. So you can project your brain activity on a computer screen and then you can play computer games with your own brain waves to Organize your brainwaves in a way that you can be more focused and pay more attention.

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  46. Another tricky thing, and that is something in my book, I try to do that and I failed. And in my new book, I'm not doing very much better. I would see how agitated you get, how much you stay in focus, and if I would see that whenever a particular subject comes up, I see you getting agitated or shut down, I would focus on that particular experience. And if I would see that you are sort of chronically agitated, unable to focus, I would say, let's just do something. You should do some things that help to calm your body, your brain down, and I'd say when you're sort of overall overwhelmed, let's start with yoga or Qigong or whatever makes sense to you in terms of how to move your body. And I probably do neurofeedback.

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  47. At some point I may say Well, have you thought about doing some martial arts? Would you be interested in going to a yoga studio? But by and large, I give very little advice, but I help people to discover what is going on and where that leads them in a way

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  48. Step one is tell me about yourself. Who are you? What do we value? What is working? What you want to work and what gets in the way. So at start of really language is terribly important. I don't make a list of how screwed up you are. I help to create a DSM at some point in a very minor role. But the DSM is not a good way of starting off, namely how sick are you? I want to know who you are, what is working, what isn't working, what has helped you, what hasn't helped you, what gets in the way. And so we create a map together of who you are. And to some degree, who you are in relation with me. And I would check a lot with people about is this helping you? So I don't prescribe.

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  49. Anybody who goes to China and says, I've been received better than anybody else in Chinese history is a fool. The guy's gone bankrupt any number of times. He says terrible things to other people. He insults other people all the time. I'm sure there's something good about him. Ivanka seems to have loved him at some point. He's a terrible person.

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  50. Because the last election was based on other You are different projection, your evil, Immigrants come and kill us and they project their own discomfort themselves on people from different religions and different skin colors etc etc it's all projection of people's own discomfort with themselves and there's no honesty about the problem is inside of me and not you

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