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“No, that is the state of New York. It's my people's problem, and therefore it's my problem, but that's why we got together. I got together with Governor Cuomo and the state legislature. We agreed on the congestion pricing plan and other elements that actually will now fully fund our subways, including the money to put in disability access on a much bigger scale. What happened for a long time around here was no one knew who the hell was in charge of the subways. And it was the state of York for a long time. What has happened? And I think it's good and as healthy as last couple years, it's finally became crystal clear, and we push this hard.”
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“Congestion pricing, there's less parking proportionally than there used to be. And so people will make more careful decisions about how and when to use the car. Yeah, I think less car usage just blame better, but I don't think we should have the illusion that we can live in a society where there's no cars because that works for some people doesn't work for others.”
2019-09-16 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: NYC Mayor Bill de Blasio · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Let's create more and better options that are not a car. And then let's put more ground rules on the cars, like, there is going to be, you know, we've lowered the speed limit here, a lot more enforcement to stop people from speeding.”
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“So remember, first of all, you know, there are a whole lot of different people make up our society. We are a society that happens to be aging a lot, and we're a society with a huge number of folks who have disabilities who've never been given their recognition. So, you know, a scooter doesn't work for everyone. A bike doesn't work for everyone. So let's start with a little bit of fairness and balance on that. I think the goal, I go a little bit differently. I say first maximize mass transit, which we have not done as a country. And even as a city, we finally have congestion pricing. That's going to help our subways and buses. We have our new ferry system, which I think is going to add a lot to the city. Yes, the bike lanes too, which have been very productive.”
2019-09-16 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: NYC Mayor Bill de Blasio · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Go so fast. Yeah What's happening around them? And what about getting rid of cars? Because really that's at the heart of it. If these were these last mile things. Because I was over on the far west side, it's hard to get over to a subway, period. I was near Hudson Yards. It's like a mile and a half walk to Penn Station where you get to somewhere. You have to provide, we'll get into a public transit in a minute and then I've just a couple more things to talk about. These last mile things are critically important. They will be critically important. Why not get rid of cars and let them go in? How do you see the congestion removing cars from New York City?”
2019-09-16 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: NYC Mayor Bill de Blasio · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I think it's hard to imagine they're not, but I would say I'm not going to be surprised if we put some really tough rules on them that discourage people from using them as much as they use them elsewhere. And the same with the e-bikes. I mean, one of the things we're trying to figure out is. If they now will be legalized under state law, but how do we limit the physical speed, like literally put some mechanism on to allow people only to go so fast? Yeah, because otherwise I don't trust folks to pay attention to what's happening around them.”
2019-09-16 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: NYC Mayor Bill de Blasio · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“We have to make a decision within the next year or so based on state law of how we're going to regulate them. Now, how stringent that is or what that looks like that's going to play out?”
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“There's always a way, but it is not going to be, hey, do what you do, everyone, you know, just make it up as you go along. There's got to be some rules and enforceable rules that focus on safety.”
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“Rationalize how we get around him actually make it about safety, not about who can drive the fastest or everything be in favor of the vehicle, right? Now there's a counter problem. You take a bike lane, you load it up with regular bikes, e-bikes, scooters, and different speeds, and some people going the wrong way. And here's a bunch of pedestrians trying to navigate that, and seniors in particular have said to me, it's really strange when you've got only so much time to cross. And then there's like, not just look out for the car, but look out for three other types of transportation all coming at different speeds in different places. We got to make sense of that. So I think.”
2019-09-16 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: NYC Mayor Bill de Blasio · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, it's crazy. But crazy good on the level of prosperity, right, and a city that a few decades ago people would not invest in and wouldn't live in and were leaving and all. Now suddenly everyone wants to be here, everyone's staying here. But we're really, really crowded. So government is supposed to be about safety and health first. We've got a safety problem, too little space, too many people. What do we do? And we have a Vision Zero approach here, which we borrowed from our friends in Sweden and France and Denmark. And it's working. It's actually driven down, thank God, injury.”
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“I'm going to demand as part of scooter regulation that the tall be recognized in this new endeavor. But so I'm in Miami and you've been, I assume, in downtown Miami, and there's not a lot of pedestrian traffic. So if folks were scootering on the sidewalks and God bless, it was beautiful. But in New York, so we are now at 8.6 million people, 67 million, I think it is, tourists in a year.”
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“Well, you know, we're not. So I was down in Miami for the first debates in June and there were scooters all over the place. But this was down your”
2019-09-16 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: NYC Mayor Bill de Blasio · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, and I get that, but I'm saying the problem now is all of these consequences for our society. That was not the way to do things. So now we better fix it real quick.”
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“I know I'm saying the people are not responding to economics. I think the people are responding to the privacy issues, the fact that our elections were undermined. They're seeing the impact on jobs. And so, yeah, I get, if you say coldly, hey, give them credit. Maybe they got a foul, but they made their billions and they pulled it off. I get that.”
2019-09-16 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: NYC Mayor Bill de Blasio · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, until it started causing a huge amount of damage, and now it's not working, and now the pendulum's swinging back with a venture.”
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“And there was not even an attempt to negotiate a regulatory schema or be part of one. And this is the break from the past. I have a critique of corporate America that goes, you know, I could go back to any decade and tell you that corporate America did things wrong. But the attempt to ignore and evade all regulation That really is something we've seen with the tech sector in a way we did not see.”
2019-09-16 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: NYC Mayor Bill de Blasio · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Some of the drivers. I mean, we saw a massive dislocation. This is part of why I speak about the issue of automation from a very personal experience. And what I'm talking about that we experienced here in New York with our drivers is like a small, small tip of the iceberg of what might be happening in this country in the future. There is vast dislocation, a lot of human pain. The reason we acted so quickly was it was clear as a bell that there was no accounting for the human reality, the reality of our workers.”
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“I've now learned that about you Surcharge No, they're here. We stopped them, and my only regret is I very much pushed a bill in 2015 locally that would have put those limits on Uber and Lyft and all right then. And they very cleverly used their vast amount of resources to fight back. And fast forward four years, the city or three years, I should say, the city passed basically the same concept after thousands and thousands of drivers had either lost their work or lost their income levels or seen their families go bankrupt and other four hired vehicle drivers saw that they were sold a bill of goods by Uber and Lyft and their income kept plummeting and God forbid we had to deal with the suicides”
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“No, we have a state law that says they can be legal, but we need a framework determined by the city and all localities. So we're going to set some groundwork.”
2019-09-16 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: NYC Mayor Bill de Blasio · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, it was like a nightmare. And Los Angeles, you know, you could cut through the air with a nice, the smog and all. The government took charge in part because all the industries involved were actually cognizant that they were being regulated and had to accept a certain level of regulation. And government was very muscular and the people demanded it. I think this internet sort of religion or sort of technology religion pushed away the notion that these things should be regulated very effectively. It was a great smokescreen. I don't even think all of it was intended to have the effect. Some of it might have been. But in the end, what happened? We got told this is sort of something you're not supposed to regulate because you'll crush the little bird. You'll take away its specialness.”
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“Because I think it overwhelmed the dynamics. I think even let's take 50 years ago and why I was the government. The government actually got its hands around environmental damage in many ways, right? I mean, we have much cleaner water today, much cleaner air. I mean, if you go back alone, yeah.”
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“The problem here has been this strange over indulgence in the notion of, well, technology is simply good and the intentions are pure and it's liberating us. Look, again, let's be clear, there's a form of propaganda here. We've been sold a bill of goods. It's like everything else human. There's good things in it. There's dangers in it. I don't trust any company. You know, they're still multinational corporations. I don't care if they have ping pong tables and everyone has blue jeans. There's still multinational corporations. They're all about the bottom line. They're all about their own enrichment. The government's imperfect, but at least it comes with a democratic mandate and some checks and balances and some transparency. We better get the hell in this. So I don't know.”
2019-09-16 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: NYC Mayor Bill de Blasio · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“But I'm saying, think about each stage. When you used to have to go to town with your horse and buggy and then someone came along with a car that needed gas, you're like, wow, you've made my life better, and that's great. But we got all sorts of unintended consequences and we. Even let's look at 50 years ago when people started to realize the sheer depth of environmental damage and went to town. Republicans and Democrats alike ironically. Created EPA created under Richard Nixon. I'm not a fan of, but I want to give him credit for that. So we have societally always recognized when we've gone into a new reality that we better put some rules on.”
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“I agree with Elizabeth Warren, first of all, but I'll tell you this first, let's just give you a moment of history when the railroads came along They were giving people a service. And yet there was a very clear impulse in this country to recognize all the greed, the exploitation, what happened to all sorts of working people along the way, what happened to people's land. I mean, we've all seen enough movies to know about that, right? And so more and more regulation and ground rules are put in place. The reason we have antitrust, again, over a century old is because of the oil companies and others that they provided something new. Wow, oil. Look, we can drive in a car.”
2019-09-16 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: NYC Mayor Bill de Blasio · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“There's benefits, but it's certainly not the trade is not a good one for consumers. But when you think about like, you know, going from privacy to what would you want in a privacy bill? And then how do you feel about antitrust, Elizabeth Warren's pushing and Josh Hawley, oddly enough, they're on the same side? I agree.”
2019-09-16 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: NYC Mayor Bill de Blasio · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Because they provide value. I think the issue is consumer harm, and the question is how do you prove consumer harm? I mean, Megan Del Reem is trying to change the way we think. So actually on both sides, there's several different people trying to change antitrust in order to meet, because you do get nice Google Maps or you get Facebook, whatever you get from Facebook. I don't use it that much, but you get benefits. My feeling is we're cheap dates for these people because they give away everything, they get everything, and they give us a free map. Thank you.”
2019-09-16 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: NYC Mayor Bill de Blasio · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I don't know what department by department, but I'll tell you one thing I would start with, and you said it right. Historically, when big things happen in our society, we create ground rules, we create some pertinent regulation, we created some transparency. I mean, for God's sakes, antitrust law. This is not something that happened in recent years. It's over 100 years old.”
2019-09-16 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: NYC Mayor Bill de Blasio · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And I guess this is very much why I'm talking about having a federal agency to deal with automation or robot taxes irresponsible not to think about things like that.”
2019-09-16 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: NYC Mayor Bill de Blasio · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Intended in terms of they wanted to make money and they saw a way to make money, I don't think they sat around and said let's let the Russians subvert our elections”
2019-09-16 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: NYC Mayor Bill de Blasio · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Amazon too. Always interesting. I look at them, I get the service that they provide and how it has made life better in many ways. And I also think there's a tremendous double-edged sword unintended consequence. And if you said...”
2019-09-16 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: NYC Mayor Bill de Blasio · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“But beyond that, it's this great unknown dynamic that technology became an idol and then a false idol, right? And instead of having a coherent public discussion of how do we want to live, like let's put the people first, let's put literally put the people first. So what kind of privacy do we need? How do we want to make sure our democracy is functioning? How do we balance free speech while worrying about real issues like white supremacy, hate speech, violence? This is what you do in a coherent society. But the problem is some of the technologists, again, I have a lot of respect for a lot of the people I've met in the technology field, but I think there's often this missing element of trying to make it an answer to all things rather than understanding it is human, therefore it can't be an answer to all things. It has to be balanced. It has to be thought through and there is no absolute, right? It is strange to ever think that something's going to solve all your problems. That's like a scary thought.”
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“Yet they've used their money well and their power well and they've inhibited attempts at regulation, although as you see in the European Union, and you know there's plenty examples where that wall is coming down and regulation is starting to tighten up, and I think it's going to happen here too.”
2019-09-16 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: NYC Mayor Bill de Blasio · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, I think, look, I think there's a kindred point there of trying to create some standards, right? So part of why I think a federal agency really does make sense. Could we start with the numbers? We don't even have the numbers. We don't even know how many jobs are threatened. There are certain academic estimates. But how about we create some rules? This is so wild, wild west. And again, God bless the technologists for some of the goods.”
2019-09-16 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: NYC Mayor Bill de Blasio · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Whatever. But I think here's where we can't afford to be wrong, Kara, that the, so anyone who says, oh, it'll be like it was before, boy, they have not read much history. It will not write now. Every evaluation we have says this will be faster and more seismic and more sizable than anything we've ever seen before. And there's no end point. So, the problem I have is hey, you know what? Here's a scary thought. The United States government has more coherent policy approaches to global warming than it does to automation. And I don't think anyone would accuse the United States government today of actually dealing with global warming. But there's literally no strategy for automotive.”
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“Yeah, that was true once. First of all, Travis just has such a horrible mercenary attitude towards humanity, and he's paid the price for that.”
2019-09-16 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: NYC Mayor Bill de Blasio · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yes, and so the companies then would either have to prove that they are reemploying, which would be ideal, or they're not reploying, they are per worker assessed tax. And the way we think of it is you'd think of the payroll taxes they would have paid on that worker. We say do a lump sum of five years of what you would have paid in payroll tax, put that up front. That helps fund retraining and re-employment. And Democrats beware. So, I have a job and I pay income taxes, and I pay income taxes, and the government takes it and uses it for education or mass transit or whatever. Robots don't pay income taxes, right? So the automation has the immediate impact Of the job loss, and right now, no plan, no strategy, no vision. What about those that would say,”
2019-09-16 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: NYC Mayor Bill de Blasio · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“The company was challenged because they had to go through some approvals out in LA. Will you re employ the workers? And their honest answer was basically no. Like maybe some will become mechanics and some will need and other things. But basically there's no way we're going to use May work.”
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“Well, you could argue that, but I'm saying so here was a place where hundreds of people work and now there's literally you can count on one hand.”
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“The company since we have no clue right now when a company automates what the impact is on humans and workers. So the company would have to declare the impact upfront and publicly. I'm company X. I'm going to bring in these machines. I'm going to have to lay off a thousand workers. And then there would be a regulatory process that says, well, are you going to re-employ those workers in your company? Some companies will. Some companies will not. I was just in the port of Los Angeles and the big shipping company, Mersk brought in automation on a level that was shocking where a whole giant cart, I saw it in my own eyes, a giant container ship being loaded up. And almost literally, I think there were five human beings anywhere nearby.”
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“Set some kind of level, but for that, then the third part of the equation relates, which is to create a federal agency, and we've come up with this not particularly poetic federal automation and worker protection agency as a title. You could come up with something more alluring, but the notion is actually create a permitting process. Because right now, we can't even identify what automation is done. There's literally no federal government study.”
2019-09-16 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: NYC Mayor Bill de Blasio · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Says okay, I would personally define it broadly, all the examples you use, anything that puts people out of work on any scale. I'm not talking about a mom and pop store where they get a new machine and one person loses their job. I feel for the one person, but I'm talking about the larger industries, the franchisees, the places where you're talking hundreds, thousands, tens of thousands of folks laid off.”
2019-09-16 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: NYC Mayor Bill de Blasio · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, but also of encouraging companies to automate when they may not even need to, or they're not certain they wanted to, but they get such a great, no, I'm saying the tax code is saying, let's say it's on the cusp. Now the tax code is saying to you, hey, you can't afford not to automate. So our tax code is encouraging the laying off of vast numbers of American workers. We don't have to do it that way. South Korea amended their tax code, recognizing the same problem. We should put that in reverse and say take away the negative. The robot tax then, and you're right, Bill Gates initiated the idea.”
2019-09-16 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: NYC Mayor Bill de Blasio · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Absolutely. And now it is there's tremendous insecurity, there's tremendous retirement insecurity, there's tremendous paycheck-to-paycheck reality for a lot of people now, and a near certainty the next generation will do worse. So when you then say, oh, by the way, we might lose a couple of tens of millions of jobs, this is not something to take chances on. So I say there's a certainty in a robot tax, and there's also, even before you get to it, first, stop the tax breaks that are almost artificially speeding the current automation. In the 2017 tax bill, the focus on accelerated depreciation had the perverse impact of encouraging.”
2019-09-16 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: NYC Mayor Bill de Blasio · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Range, including those. Absolutely. But that's 11 years from now. So this is not anything we've seen before. So the reason the robot tax becomes so powerful, and I'll talk to you about how I think it would look is to say, okay, we're not going to do this game anymore where we just theorize and say, oh, hopefully it's all going to work out. Or say, because in the past we didn't see vast reductions in employment that therefore it's not going to happen in the future. We've never been here. Let's just acknowledge that, right? And it's against the post-recession backdrop where people already were struggling. If we were sort of in a world where there's just money for everyone and we said, hey, we can take this risk. That's great. We're not there. We're in the point of extraordinary insecurity. The American dream for your parents and mine, the American dream was like this article of faith. We were all told we were going to inherit it. That is not believed in a whole lot of America. I've been talking to people”
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“And it's ridiculous because you know what? That was a vast labor intensive world that went to another vast labor-intensive world, right? This ain't that. This is like a massive compression of working opportunity. So, Brookings Institution, one of many, says 36 million jobs that could be imperiled by 2030, which is limited years”
2019-09-16 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: NYC Mayor Bill de Blasio · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, I'm going to key it all to working people. I'm going to start with this very core notion. Our government today is not based on the needs of the vast majority. This is just a structural reality today. And you can see it in our policies towards technology, taxation, trade, where trade has been all about the interests of big corporations. So if you said, hey, wait a minute, what if the government accounted for the vast majority of people are just trying to get by and actually build policies for them? Well, you'd have to address automation then. You'd have to address the fact that automation could disrupt people's lives and livelihoods on a scale we have literally never seen where there is not the, it's not people coming from the farms and going to the factories.”
2019-09-16 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: NYC Mayor Bill de Blasio · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“That gives us the robot text. You just wrote a saying to put a robot in text in place. Talk about that for displacing workers. And the idea is so many things are going to be displaced by robotics and automation, AI, self-driving. There's all kinds of really big trends about to hit quite significantly, I think, more than people realize. And so Bill Gates pushed a robot tax. Others have said we're very slow with our robotics innovation. It's happening more in China. But this idea of what do you want to tax? How would you execute that? Like which robots? Because there could be, there's burger flipping robots in San Francisco. There's coffee making robots. There's manufacturing robots. There's surgery robots. There's farming robots. There's mining robots. How would you give me some details?”
2019-09-16 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: NYC Mayor Bill de Blasio · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“For some people, sure, that might work. And I also could even agree with the notion UBI could be part of an answer to the challenge of automation and potentially tens of millions of people at work. It is a false idol if you say, oh, this will solve the problem. It's not even close to solving the problem. So that's where I would argue if our American debate on automation was, hey, it's all going to work out, and we've got UBI debate. To be consistent with a benefit.”
2019-09-16 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: NYC Mayor Bill de Blasio · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“The rest of life, right? Well, I think sometimes some UBI is thought of as like just a slight break, a cushion, a way for people. Some of the arguments in Silicon Valley is that you can be more entrepreneurial if you're not worried about paying that little bit of rent you're missing or something like that. And that people spend money well, just give it to them without telling them how to spend it.”
2019-09-16 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: NYC Mayor Bill de Blasio · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Is linking work too. I'm saying you could argue there is an American problem of sort of let's work ourselves to death and feel good about it rather than having all the rest of life. I can argue that one all day long that, yeah, there needs to be a balance. But I also want to argue that there's a really noble element to work you care about. And I think a vast, vast percentage of people, they went, they got educated or they learned to trade and they actually take pride in their work and the security of it that you got something that will have value. It's going to have value today. It's going to have value a decade from now.”
2019-09-16 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: NYC Mayor Bill de Blasio · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT