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  1. Well, Andrew, as I think from the heart, articulate a vision of it and is instantaneously clear, it couldn't even come close to being enough. First of all, $1,000 a month, give me a break, looking at the cost of living in so much of America. That is not even close to what people need. Second of all, hey, what happens if the government decides to stop sending you a check? What happens if there's a recession? What happens if there's a political crisis? You are screwed. And so it immediately falls apart. And I will also argue just the value of work as meaningful human identity, like the actual, not the wide Anglo-Saxon Protestant, let's have work replace all other values.

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  2. But then when you say, what about the workers? What about the people? Silence descends in the room. And what many of them cling to is UBI as their get out of jail free card, right? I don't know. I don't have to talk about it anymore because I can just say UBI.

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  3. 10 people. I find that sort of immediately puts the lie to UBI. Ironically, the gambit he put out there, I think, because it is superficial and limited and not sustainable. And it's also, I've been blunt about the fact I've talked to lots of technologists And you would, I think, agree for some technology becomes a quasi religion and sort of the answer to all problems.

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  4. Not the only one. There's lots. No, of course not. But I'm saying on the stage, he obviously has made it a focal point issue. But no, not to UBI point. I'm saying I credit him for talking about automation. I think that's been helpful to the national debate. I didn't love his little contest the other night because I think

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  5. The continuing power of states, I mean, what California is doing around cars de facto Gavin Newsom is running the privacy bill of the United States. Amen. Pretty much. So when you think of, let me get to still finish with income equality. How do you look at, say, Yang's push to UBI? It's a big Silicon Valley push from some people in Silicon Valley. How do you look at that idea, which is you replace, if you get people this small amount of cushioning money, they will be more entrepreneurial and then they don't necessarily pull from other places where government would give them money. Yeah, I don't buy it. Tell me why.

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  6. So, when you think about that, when you think about things, even simple things like paid sick leave, which we instituted, which means you don't lose a day's pay if you have to go to the doctor, right? You know, you would agree the huge percentage of New Yorkers and Americans, even a single day's pay loss is a big deal. All of these things continued to help people move forward economically, huge affordable housing program, for example, which is reaching hundreds of thousands of people, when you start to add all up, is it as good as a federal policy to address income inequality? No, of course not. Is it as good as totally reworking our tax code to make the wealthy pay their fair share? No. But it is actually an object lesson, the fact that localities and states can do a lot.

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  7. And I appreciate it. And that's universal right, which is very important, and Democrats should heed that. We did that for everyone. And they said it could not be done. There was plenty of folks who said there's no way we could make good enough, no way we can make it universal, no way we could do it so fast. We did all those things. And the crucial point is for a working person per child that could have been 10,000, 15,000 per year. So that money went right back into the pockets of that family. Multiple kids, you can imagine how much impact that has

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  8. Yeah, if you talk about the high end, the high end, the risks keep getting richer. And there are actually things we need to do about that, like changing our tax policy. But if you talk about working people and folks who haven't done as well, so we now in six years have over 200,000 New Yorkers who have gotten out of poverty. Now, that's a lot of people. That's the size of some major American cities. And that is first and foremost because of the $15 minimum wage, which we were the leading edge of here in New York City and in my administration to push the state of New York. And we first did it and then they did it. And things that are actually taking a lot of money and putting it back in the hands of working people, one of my proudest achievements is pre-K for all our kids for free.

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  9. So, I want to counter in this way. One, on the high end, you're absolutely right. You know, if we said, hey, look at the 1950s and 60s where you had relatively more balance in our society, you didn't have as much extreme of wealth versus poverty. You had CEOs making many times less compared to the average worker in their company.

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  10. Well, Manhattan is, too, with all due respect to them. It's a right wing, ideologically driven, often factually inaccurate.

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  11. Let's talk about that because you did make that the sort of the high point of your mayoral campaign, the platform of a tale of two cities of income equality. And according to the Manhattan Institute, income inequality hasn't budged, but it's the same thing across the country. A lot of it has to do with people making enormous amounts of money while others are in a much more with gig economy. And we'll talk about that in a little bit. Talk about where we are with the income inequality because I do think it's an important, it's probably the most important issue.

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  12. It literally felt lined for line sometimes. And I think that this whole notion of its race or its region, no, it's actually about class in the end. And folks who are struggling, working people are struggling are struggling everywhere around this country.

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  13. So, what I came away with already was, hey, first of all, we're not that as different as we're being told. We're not as divisors being told. There's actually a lot of hope out there on the ground. And this rural point is really sharp to me. So I sat in a living room in Webster County. And heard rural folks, farmers talking about economic insecurity in their lives and the alienation they were feeling, the fear, the sense of what was up ahead and they felt tremendous anxiety check to check. And I could have been talking with a bunch of folks who lived in the neighborhood in the South Bronx.

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  14. We've been losing participation for decades. It's coming back with a vengeance and a sense of personal responsibility and sort of personal motivation. That's really inspiring. I would also say we're a much more not homogenized country, but we're a country with a lot more in common than we used to. It's shocking. I remember when I was first going around the country as a college student, distinctly sharper sense of regional differences. Now, everyone's watching the same shows. People travel all the time. People have family everywhere. They go to jobs everywhere.

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  15. While I'm talking about that I think once we all as Americans lost the kind of tradition of voting and participation once a lot of the old sort of institutional dynamics of our society, unions and houses of worship and whatever else might have been pushing people to participate and conform with a notion of democracy.

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  16. Lot of optimism, a lot of activism in the sense of people taking real responsibility. It's actually quite heart rendering, you know, because meaning moving positive, what I think is that Trump forced everyone to realize it is a participatory dynamic in a very personal way that was missing and declining for decades. So I just, these conversations you have with people, they really are in it. They care.

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  17. Yeah, and in an emotionally compelling way, and he saw the gaps on the Democratic side and he just ran right through them, right? And I was coming of age at that time. It was like a shock to the system then. So, I really hope that this election leads us all to say, and 2016 should have been sort of the wake up call of the ages, right? Stop. It's like have a sharp, clear, compelling message for everyday people, for working people. Like the argument about elitism and coastalism and all the things that really plagued us in 2016, that's real. That's real. Like, we actually, I mean, rural, I spent more time obviously in rural America in recent months. How did we lose rural America? Democrats were the party of rural America.

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  18. Right, a message in off for decades, and we first saw that probably distinctly with Ronald Reagan, right? It was like shocking to see he, Ronald Reagan was doing a variation on what Trump is doing now that was less ignobile, less lurid. But he was using communication in new and smart ways and exploiting them fast.

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  19. I think she's a very smart person. I think she's got really clear values, and that helps her be fast and resolute in her response. I think that's great. But I would argue to Democrats, you know, pre-social media, I would have said Democrats had a profound message problem anyway, which is, you know, we rarely make things simple and clear, and we rarely talk right to people's hearts, even though our values as a party historically have been right there, right? All about working people in fairness and equality.

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  20. Yeah, I mean, I think for me, I'm cognizant of the fact that I came up steeped in a certain set of ground rules that now are defunct, and it's time for all of us to reset. And social media, look, it's like every other human endeavor, right? There's wonderful, exalted elements and people are organizing mass movements for positive change because of social media. And then there's hate speech and division being sown and people's worst instincts being played out. But as a question of anyone who wants to lead perfecting a way of making a message clearer, sharper, briefer, and using those tools, we all have to do that better. And I would argue that Democrats are behind.

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  21. Yes, Grifter in chief. And so I called him out, and he literally, you might remember the first day of my campaign, he did a video on Air Force One, which actually violates U.S. law. Whatever. Attacking me back politically. But no, I think I don't hit back quote unquote because I'm so used to it. And I actually don't think so. What are you going to tell the media when they're wrong every time? Oh, you're wrong this time, you're wrong that time. There's a limit to that. I think if you're going to get criticized, that is sometimes an example of you're doing something consequential, right? I mean, if you're not getting criticism, that's probably a guarantee you're not having much impact. If you're criticized and you can't take it, well, you shouldn't be running for mayor or president. It's kind of the world we're living in. It's

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  22. And it really gets to the essence as a New Yorker of what we've watched with this guy. I mean, it's unbelievable because if you go back to the 80s, the 90s.

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  23. Right. It's like that's a walk in the park. And one journalist said to me, even they thought, hey, there's something about having walk through that that probably gives you armor. Which, if you're going to be president, you better damn well have armor, right So it's sort of like, no, does it surprise me? No.

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  24. No, a lot of folks that I consulted with as I considered running said, you know, hey, you have a condition that no one else has. You have the New York City media, which is vast. Which is tough, which is often cynical And that's going to affect the overall situation, and I think it has. But the irony is this sort of, there's this chicken and egg reality of the very same, very, very tough dynamics that led to that are what credential me. Right? Because that's an everyday occurrence.

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  25. Contribute to thinking. But you also are running electoral campaign. Those two are not mutually exclusive ideas. But to the Pelosi point. The running for office is the easy part. Actually, making fundamental social change and reaching millions of people, that takes a certain solidity and sense of engineering change. So God bless the people who push the spectrum, change our discussion. But that's not the whole deal

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  26. They're having that argument not necessarily just for electoral gain, right? It's ideological in the most respectful manner. Those who have a more moderate position, I believe they're speaking from the heart too. So I have a sense. When I was on the main stage twice, you know, 20 million plus people watching, you have a chance to actually.

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  27. And I have a lot of respect for the members of the squad. And I think what's interesting, and might use another parallel 2016, where Bernie lost but one. He lost the election but changed the debate foundationally. And I think all of us have to be bifocal when you run for office. When I ran for mayor in New York City, again, vast majority of that election, you would have said snowballs chance in hell. But I did pull the whole discussion towards income inequality. And towards changing policing and a whole set of things. And so you have to as a candidate have two missions. If you have, in my view, if you have integrity, if you have values that are animating your work, you want to change the discussion. You want to energetically pull the discussion. You could see it last night on the stage, folks who believe in universal health care.

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  28. Start with social media but not just the way Nancy Pelosi talked about the squad. They've got to like get the votes, make the legislation pass. You know, that was an interesting fight because I'm like, both of them are kind of right in some ways. Like, she's right. You need to ultimately get the votes to do it.

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  29. It's a statement on a changing political dynamic and social dynamic. I would say I can make sense of it. He had a clever thematic. He organized himself well. He used social media well. And the current rules, unlike any other previous election, because debate participation hinges on those grassroots donations, he was really keenly positioned to handle that, as has been Marianne previously and others That's different than who's going to be the best president of the United States or who's going to be the best nominee or what it really takes to run something like this and manage something like this. I think there's going to be a bit of a reckoning as we go forward. Recognizing the difference between what makes a good short term campaign versus what do you actually need to survive it?

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  30. As far as I'm concerned, I think he did a great job. I think it's a very debatable thing. Do you make your campaign about one thing or a sort of broader issue? I mean, my slogan's three words. It's working people first and that talks, you know, that touches automation, that touches wages and benefits, that touches many things. But I would say different people have a different sense of mission. Jay Inslee will go down and history is having focused us all more on climate change. That's great.

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  31. Know, I believe I am politically a child of the Great Recession, that I am one of the people elected because America changed profoundly. I don't think we're still coming to grips with that. I think there's a whole lot more to figure out about how we create a fair and just economy. And so long as I feel I've got something to contribute to that debate and that there is that chance of an opening up in the electoral situation, I'm going to stick with it. And again, I think under

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  32. Income inequality, which really is the issue I got elected on here in York and still is an issue this country hasn't come to grips with enough.

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  33. And then back again. And back again, right, right. Exactly. But that means those grassroots donations can move with that kind of speed. Poll numbers can move. So I would argue to you, someone like me might never have run for president. Years ago, five years ago, but 2016 said to all of us that there are no rules anymore. And if you believe you have something to offer, get out there and try. But at some point, of course, you have to see forward motion. So I continue to believe that putting forward important ideas like talking about automation, talking about a robot tax.

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  34. It's a pretty good situation. But the question is, do you have a life experience, a preparation to actually put the ideas into action? And I can say as a chief executive, it's a whole other ballgame. Campaigning versus governing, legislating versus being an executive. I think I bring something very particular. That's why I ran. Why do you keep going even when the chips are down? Because first I've always been underdog for most of the campaign for Mayor in New York City, people who have said I had no chance in hell. We're in a different political moment where things happen, unpredictable things happen, things move quickly because of social media, et cetera. I literally believe I said this recently that in America Day, someone goes from absolutely unknown to totally famous in 72 hours.

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  35. I think the first thing to say is why do you do it at all? Very simply, if you believe you have something to offer. So for me, it's I run the biggest city in the country. Whole message is about how to address the needs of working people in a very different way. And I can say, hey, look, we've done this in New York City big scale, consistently. We've shown that a progressive vision actually can be put into action. And I think a lot of the other candidates, I really like a lot of these candidates. I appreciate that.

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  36. But I'm not a traditional reporter, political reporter. And you know there's a whole type of that. And so I think they would, same thing I said to Marion Willison and others, like, why are you running for president if you're probably not going to win? Like Senator Klobachar was lower, Andrew Yang, I interviewed him. I do want to talk about why you're running for president now. Like, what is your feeling right now? Like Jinsley dropped out, others have dropped out. What are you going for here given your You weren't on the debate stage last night and I know you were tweeting about it. So what are you, why are you doing it now? What is your feeling about it?

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  37. Hi, I'm Kara Swisher, editor-at-large of Recode. You may know me as someone who wonders if New York City ever forgave Bill de Blasio for eating pizza with a knife and fork. I certainly did, but in my spare time I talk tech and you're listening to Reco Decode from the Vox Media Podcast Network today in the red share, of course, is Bill De Blasio, the mayor of New York City. He's also running to be the Democratic nominee for president in 2020 and has recently proposed a robot tax to protect American jobs from automation. We're also going to talk about some of the tech-related policies he's pursued as mayor, including a cap on the number of Uber and Lift vehicles that can operate in New York, but there's a lot of other topics. Mayor de Blasio, welcome to Rico Deco Deco.

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