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Brett Schulman

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“By Jonas Bella and our audio engineer was James Willetts. Our production staff also includes Alex Chung, Casey Herman, Chris Massini, Elaine Coates, JC Howard, Catherine Ceypher, Carrie Thompson, Neva Grant, and Sam Paulson. I'm Guy Ros, and you've been listening to the advice line on how I built this lab.”
2024-07-04 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Advice Line with Brett Schulman of CAVA · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And by the way, if you haven't heard Brett's episode, the story of Kava and how they turned it into this incredible chain, go back and check it out. It's an incredible story. Look for it wherever you listen to podcasts. Just type in Kava and how I built this or just go to the link in the podcast description on your phone. And thank you for listening to the show this week. If you are working on a business and you would like to be on the show, send us a one-minute message. Tell us about your business. Tell us about the issues or questions that you'd like help with and hopefully we can help you. And make sure to tell us how to reach you, please. You can send us a voice memo at hibt at id.wondry.com or give us a call 1-800-433-1298 and leave a message there and we'll put all this information in the podcast description as well. And thanks so much for listening to the show this week. This episode was produced by Carla Estevez with music composed by Ramtina Ablui. It was edited by”
2024-07-04 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Advice Line with Brett Schulman of CAVA · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Really force myself to see it as soon as I should have. And I think that the other thing was prioritization. You know, what I said earlier about what you don't do is often more important than what you do. And that really helped us turn the tide in the challenges of Zoe's is when I finally figured that out and we simplified and focused and did fewer things a lot better. And that helped us get out of the challenging situation we were in. And then again, bringing in people with the capabilities that were needed at that stage of the business because you can't do it yourself. And being able to find people and bring in that you can lean on and that can be a force multiplier of you really helped us get to where we are today.”
2024-07-04 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Advice Line with Brett Schulman of CAVA · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Two things come to mind. One is write people, write roles is a mantra, I say a lot these days. You know, it's understanding what kind of capabilities and what kind of people you need at every stage of growth. And I think sometimes I... Wanted to believe certain things to be true that weren't necessarily true and wouldn't”
2024-07-04 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Advice Line with Brett Schulman of CAVA · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Tell me this is a question that I'm asking a lot of founders who come back on the show, which we may have touched on when you were originally on the show. But knowing now what you know about the world you're in, and you talked earlier about the stress of expanding, you know, when you guys acquired Zoe's, what do you wish you knew when you first got into this business that would have been helpful for you and maybe caused a few fewer sleepless nights?”
2024-07-04 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Advice Line with Brett Schulman of CAVA · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“We are coming to the end of our time together again, and hopefully we can see each other and eat some Tsutsiki. You might be sick of the food that you make. I don't know, but maybe not. We can have some lamb kebabs and Tsutsiki.”
2024-07-04 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Advice Line with Brett Schulman of CAVA · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“That can bring that experience to you and not have the necessarily the commitment on your end. And sometimes those folks go into full-time roles if they find an opportunity that they really hit it off with a founder or entrepreneur with. And it also gives you a chance to leverage their experience and leverage in a bit of an asset-light way.”
2024-07-04 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Advice Line with Brett Schulman of CAVA · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Routine because it operates very differently than our restaurants do. And that whole distribution channel. So I think it's trying to, we like to try and do fewer things better. It's hard. It's hard to pick and choose. But having that focus helped us have the energy to really make it what it is today. And other things I see a lot of small companies leverage is there's more and more folks who used to be executives at private or public companies that have gone on to become now fractional CFOs or fractional COOs.”
2024-07-04 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Advice Line with Brett Schulman of CAVA · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Well, yeah, I mean, if you think about it, the channels operate very differently, right? Dealing with grocery stores or wholesale distributors is a different channel and value chain than a retail shop and different than DTC. So you would often need different capabilities, which would then be something that you'd have to hire more people for, right? So I think if you're trying to stay nimble and agile at a small stage and be cost effective and capital efficient, hiring folks that can do everything you need in the channel you're trying to grow is how we thought about it and how we looked at it. And even today, you know, we opened our new production facility. So we have capacity now to get more intentional about growing the consumer packaged goods business. But we've talked about if we're going to do that, we need to really hire a focused dedicated team that's fully integrated with our large”
2024-07-04 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Advice Line with Brett Schulman of CAVA · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I mean, my advice to you also would be, and you may have done this already, but to think about finding a consultant on just a short-term basis, that's how these guys found Brett, right? And it was serendipitous because it was like Ted's cousin said, hey, this guy Brett, and he came as a consultant. So I wouldn't jump in and just hire somebody right away. I'd look for somebody who could maybe do some consulting. I would look out, especially because you're in the Midwest. I would really look for somebody who has experience in the food and beverage industry in the Midwest, who understands what your values are, where you come from, how you think about what you're trying to do. I mean, maybe there are some retired executives who are on LinkedIn, who might be willing to do some consulting for you that you could find.”
2024-07-04 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Advice Line with Brett Schulman of CAVA · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I like to say scaling restaurants is not like scaling SaaS software. It takes people. It takes process. It's building physical restaurants. You're building physical roasteries. So that takes capital and it's hard to scale these things. So being able to afford the capabilities, the talent, the infrastructure before the business necessarily affords it for you through your profits allows you to scale faster and grow faster and do it sustainably and successfully.”
2024-07-04 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Advice Line with Brett Schulman of CAVA · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Understanding of what we were going to do with this capital and connect those dots clearly to the return. Because ultimately when you're raising money from investors, we're ultimately stewards of their capital. We're good stewards of capital. We'll continue to attract capital, but that allows us to do what we love to do, right? And build our brand and bring this great food to folks across the country. So how are you going to do that? How are you going to focus that? And, you know, I think it goes back to the question I posed to you earlier. What do you want to be when you grow up, right? What pace do you want to grow at? And that's going to determine how much money you raise because.”
2024-07-04 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Advice Line with Brett Schulman of CAVA · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Think there's a lot of interesting parallels here. I love your vertical integration. We have our dips and spreads production facilities to supply our restaurants as well as we sell in Whole Foods markets and other grocery stores across the country. You've got your roastery and you're leveraging it through a few different channels. And one of the things we quickly realized early on is that we were going to focus raising capital to grow the restaurant channel. And we've kept the consumer packaged goods channel growing slowly, but we've focused our efforts on the restaurants because we found it very challenging to grow multiple channels at once. And so we tried to lean into where we thought the greatest opportunity was to bring this food to people across the country. And I think it also presented a clear story for investors. It gave them a clear”
2024-07-04 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Advice Line with Brett Schulman of CAVA · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Brett, there's some parallels to where you guys were when you joined Kava. I mean, small business and just still at the beginning of its journey, but with potential.”
2024-07-04 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Advice Line with Brett Schulman of CAVA · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And you can get it fast, but you're not sacrificing that quality to do so. And that's like my big, big dream. I've really been like, hey, how do we get there? How do we do this in the next like five or so years? It's really a matter of like we need the revenue to fund things in order for me to be able to kind of put off like, all right, wholesale is now managed by this person, et cetera, et cetera.”
2024-07-04 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Advice Line with Brett Schulman of CAVA · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Wow, okay, so you start in 2020, you're in more than 30 retail locations in and around Metro Detroit-Flint area. You got 10 employees, and you're trying to figure out what you need to do to grow. Should you bring in outside investment before we get to your question, Brett, do you have any more questions for Sean about the business?”
2024-07-04 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Advice Line with Brett Schulman of CAVA · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, it's cool. I'm looking at it now. It's like the artwork is super cool. That one, you mentioned that bag, a damn fine cup of coffee, is like an owl's head on a person with wearing a business suit at a cafe drinking a cup of coffee with a slice of cherry pie, a really, really cool artwork. And so the entry point to you for people, you knew that you were making good coffee, but it's hard to kind of distinguish good coffee because some people don't really know, you know, and they don't really know what to look for. But your entry point was just... Creating these eye catching, beautiful pieces of artwork on the bags”
2024-07-04 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Advice Line with Brett Schulman of CAVA · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So you pivoted to move towards coffee and decided to start a coffee brand. And tell me about the brand. I mean, it's obviously roasting it in Flint, but are you sourcing it in a special way? Is there something about the way you're presenting the coffee that's different or that is kind of influenced by your time in craft beer?”
2024-07-04 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Advice Line with Brett Schulman of CAVA · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“All right, lots of questions. As you know, Sean, we've done a couple of coffee brands on the show, of course, Starbucks, and we've done La Colom and Dutch Bros coffee too, which is a big, big chain. So how did you get into it? How did you get into this business?”
2024-07-04 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Advice Line with Brett Schulman of CAVA · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Hey hello, Sean. Welcome to the show. Tell us your name, where you're calling from, and just a tiny bit about your business.”
2024-07-04 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Advice Line with Brett Schulman of CAVA · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Alright, Brett, we're gonna go ahead and take another quick break. But when we come back, the founder of a Midwestern coffee brand who's found a really interesting way to stand out in the crowd. Stay with us, I'm Guy Ros, and you're listening to the advice line right here on how I built this lab. Welcome back to the advice line on how I built this lab. My guest today is Brett Schulman, co founder and CEO of the fast casual Mediterranean restaurant chain Kava. All right, let's bring in one more caller, Brett. I think it's Sean is on the line. Sean, are you there?”
2024-07-04 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Advice Line with Brett Schulman of CAVA · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Just going to say, I love partnering with the allergen-friendly food brands, and especially when you think about social collaborations and giveaways for the back to school season to help amplify what you're doing and be a trusted partner because that is your target customer. They are already an allergen purchaser, an allergen-free friendly purchaser. And it's almost, again, like a validation. A friendly referral that you can partner with them. And whether it's through influencers, creators, or the brands themselves, I think those are powerful channels to help amplify. With an audience that already has that built-in passion for what you're doing.”
2024-07-04 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Advice Line with Brett Schulman of CAVA · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“You got to get this thing put on the backpack and on the lunchbox, and that's really where you're going to find the momentum.”
2024-07-04 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Advice Line with Brett Schulman of CAVA · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“100%. Yeah, I mean, with kids, there's all kinds of rules on how you can market to them in the world. That's a great channel to think about too. But there are millions of podcasts out there. And I think that you start with take a page out of Tim Ferriss's world. You start with a thousand people, a tribe. You build a tribe of a thousand people that you can gather around your brand, and those become your force multipliers. And so maybe it's like, I think about my sister who's a kid with really deathly peanut allergies, now a grown man. She was constantly vigilant. I mean, before they went to a restaurant, she would call up to make it within airplanes. She would call up to make sure they wouldn't serve peanuts on the plane. So, this is the kind of thing that somebody like my sister, when our kids were younger, would have said to other moms.”
2024-07-04 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Advice Line with Brett Schulman of CAVA · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I do think Yeah, definitely. Guy, I had a question for you because I know you have podcasts that's geared towards kids. Do you find yourself marketing? Differently or doing things differently for kids versus your more podcasts that are geared towards adults.”
2024-07-04 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Advice Line with Brett Schulman of CAVA · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“These retailers will do small tests and small market or regional tests. So a target, they will do a 30, 50, 100 store test. Cold email, contact the right person and pitch the idea because I do think it's a viable idea, especially for a lot of times they'll do like an in and out for back to school season as a test”
2024-07-04 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Advice Line with Brett Schulman of CAVA · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I would love to be at a target at like even if there was an end cap that was for back to school allergy friendly NCAP that partnered with other allergy friendly foods. I think that would be really awesome. And even though allergies are everywhere and it's become some mainstream in a way, there's still kind of be nice to add a Whole Foods to have an allergy friendly section. I think I still have yet to see things like that but would love to be a part of that.”
2024-07-04 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Advice Line with Brett Schulman of CAVA · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I think often in any of these industries, going to a trade show is such a great idea and just understanding the landscape, the lay of the land, what the marketplace is. What the potential avenues of distribution are, how it all works. I remember when I was working with my wife on a snack food company, we would do that. We'd go to the trade shows and it helped us really understand the industry and how it all worked and where our product or offering could fit within that.”
2024-07-04 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Advice Line with Brett Schulman of CAVA · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, that was going back to kind of my original question about instinctively were there any kind of bricks and mortar places that you thought about going because certainly what we've seen post pandemic, the cost of acquisition or just awareness on the internet or being a DTC brand has gotten really expensive. And people have gotten back out in the world. And even with the changes in third-party data, privacy laws, it's restricted the ability to drive awareness online solely. So where are there potential bricks and mortar outlets that you can be in front of where your consumer, your parent that has a child with allergen issues or maybe having them themselves are trafficking and where's that need state happening, whether it's target, whether it's a gift shop.”
2024-07-04 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Advice Line with Brett Schulman of CAVA · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Expand maybe, is there a world where going to a gift trade show, you know, one of these trade shows that's for gift shops? I think about going into a gift shop or even a card store and seeing cool things like this there's the kind of place that I would imagine buying something like this like my nephew's got peanut allergies and I see that and I say oh this he's now a grown man so I don't think he needs it on his lunchbox but I can imagine going to a gift shop and seeing these little patches or stickers or magnets and thinking oh that's cool is there Brett do you think there's something to that to going to like a trade show”
2024-07-04 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Advice Line with Brett Schulman of CAVA · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I think your question is about marketing, reach, and sales channels, right? And you have essentially basically allergies are mainstream. It's a mainstream issue, right? This is something that affects a significant percentage of the population, one or more allergies. I don't know the number. You might, but a lot of people. So this is not a niche thing. It's not like a lot of kids have peanut allergies very common. I feel like there's a world, and I'd be curious if Sophia was looking to...”
2024-07-04 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Advice Line with Brett Schulman of CAVA · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“You know, I honestly was just Google and it would bring me not a ton of companies that provided allergy accessories. And if there were, it was very piecemeal. There's lots of also like Etsy makers that do kind of one-off things. It could be a sticker or a patch, but not a full kit or collection. And my goal was to really create something where a parent can come into the website and say, okay, I need all of these things for school rather than kind of figuring it out on their own, which I had to do. But again, you know, in my search, everything that I found was just really cold and clinical and just felt almost like a, I don't know, like a badge of shame in a way. And it's hard enough, obviously, for kids to deal with having food allergies. I didn't want their accessories or their labels to make them feel. Othered in a way.”
2024-07-04 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Advice Line with Brett Schulman of CAVA · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, Sophia, when the allergy issues first came up in your home, when you said you went out and you started to look, what was instinctively the first places you started to look for products like this?”
2024-07-04 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Advice Line with Brett Schulman of CAVA · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I would say still below that we have been getting really great feedback as soon as people find out about us. And we've also been partnering with more established brands. We just did a partnership with Planet Box and Abe's Allergy Friendly Muffins. Which turned out to be really, really wonderful. So, my goal is to continue kind of on that path to really get our name out there.”
2024-07-04 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Advice Line with Brett Schulman of CAVA · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Nice. So, this is your side hustle right now. It is. And who knows? Who knows, right? I mean, this is how a lot of great brands start as side hustle. Sam Adams Beer started as a side hustle.”
2024-07-04 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Advice Line with Brett Schulman of CAVA · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And how you're new. And so I'm assuming that it's not easy that easy to get the word out because your website. And do you have any, you've probably put all your own money into this so far?”
2024-07-04 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Advice Line with Brett Schulman of CAVA · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, and you know, I think allergy is among the really young population like newborns even and six-month, a year old, who are really still learning to speak, to advocate for themselves. And so this kind of provides a kit for parents and families to at least feel confident in knowing that as they're sending them to camp or grandparents' house or school, that their accessories are going to do the work for them to keep them safe.”
2024-07-04 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Advice Line with Brett Schulman of CAVA · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And so you would know if there's a five-year-old and they're going to summer, you know, like a day camp on their backpack, you'll just see it'll say, sesame allergy, peanut allergy, shellfish allergy, and you're like Because even though, by the way, a lot of kids grow up with allergies, are used to telling people these things all the time. But as a parent, it probably gives you peace of mind to know that it's out there.”
2024-07-04 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Advice Line with Brett Schulman of CAVA · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And so I'm looking at the website. So you've got stickers, waterproof stickers that you could put on, I guess, clothing and patches, even those bracelets. I call them live strong bracelets, but they shouldn't really call those rubber bracelets with allergy, whatever allergies on it.”
2024-07-04 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Advice Line with Brett Schulman of CAVA · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, so when my daughter was a year old, she was diagnosed with a severe food allergy to sesame. And I was terrified. I was a first-time parent. And honestly, I didn't want her to leave the house after that. But I knew at some point I had to send her to preschool. So with her being so little and honestly still learning how to speak, I knew that I needed to find allergy accessories that would essentially advocate for her in my absence. So I searched everywhere for the right allergy accessories, but I honestly couldn't find anything that didn't feel cold or clinical. So I channeled my creativity and I decided to design her own allergy accessories that would essentially make me feel confident in knowing that at every touch point throughout the day, whether it be snack time or lunchtime, her”
2024-07-04 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Advice Line with Brett Schulman of CAVA · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Got it. Okay, we'll get your question in a moment. Let me just ask you a couple of questions about the business. These are the kid has a metal lunchbox. You can put a bunch of these metal magnets.”
2024-07-04 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Advice Line with Brett Schulman of CAVA · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, I'm Sophia Bowden and I'm the founder of Little Me Allergy and I'm from Los Angeles, California. And we make really bright and colorful allergy accessories like placemats, lunchbox magnets, patches and wristbands to help advocate for kids who have serious food allergies.”
2024-07-04 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Advice Line with Brett Schulman of CAVA · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“All right, Brett, we're gonna go ahead and take a quick break, but when we come back, a mom who turned her child's allergies into a business idea. Stay with us, I'm Guy Raz, and you're listening to the advice line right here on how I built this lab. Welcome back to the advice line on how I built this lab and taking calls with me today is Kava, co-founder and CEO Brett Schulman. Brett, let's bring in our next caller. I think we have Sophia on the line.”
2024-07-04 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Advice Line with Brett Schulman of CAVA · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“But you just breathe through it, you know, and she didn't say it was easy, but she just kind of breathed through it and figured it out. And I think we've all been there. We've all had that, those moments and still do.”
2024-07-04 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Advice Line with Brett Schulman of CAVA · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Seltzer or one of these white claw things, right? It's true, right? Right. It's a completely just a different thing. Curious to see what happens. By the way, imposter syndrome is a big theme in this episode. That we have with Tara Bosch, the founder of Smartsuites, which is a massive brand, low sugar candy brand. And she started this when she was like 21, dropped out of college and really had no money, nothing. She was just doing it on her own and applied for every competition and business grant that she could get. And eventually built it into the brand it is today. And she talked about how When she was like 22, 23, she'd go into meetings with distributors or buyers for just small local chains in Vancouver and just the knots in her stomach and the fear and the terror.”
2024-07-04 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Advice Line with Brett Schulman of CAVA · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“The Brandis Devon spiked root beer. Founder is Devin Strahan. Devin, thanks so much. Good luck. Can't wait to see what happens.”
2024-07-04 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Advice Line with Brett Schulman of CAVA · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, and I think also the problem set in. As of recently, because of what I just gone through with the business where my first co-packer, they sell their business, the new owners didn't communicate with me about no longer. Found another co packer, and then he was a fully transparent about his finances. And that was a doozy. And all this happened within two months of each other. And the last one just happened a month ago. And now I'm working to find my third co-packer. I think that's where they kicked in that. I was like, I felt like I don't know what I'm doing.”
2024-07-04 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Advice Line with Brett Schulman of CAVA · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Don't be shy about cold reaching out to business leaders that you maybe admire or respect. I think, you know, when I found throughout the journey, if I had moments of doubt or that the business might have seemed overwhelming at the moment or a problem, how was I going to overcome this? Having folks around you as sounding boards that you can lean on and bounce that stuff on can help validate your thinking or maybe help you think about it from a different angle, I found invaluable and I found could help get through some of those moments where you may have a little bit more doubt than other times.”
2024-07-04 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Advice Line with Brett Schulman of CAVA · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I don't to be honest. I don't. I bounce things off my business partner when we work out in the morning and it's just a systems check, you know, to see what's the next stage is, what are we trying to do next? The answer is no, to be honest.”
2024-07-04 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Advice Line with Brett Schulman of CAVA · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I couldn't agree with you more, guy. I mean, that's what I was saying earlier. It's, you know, I think we all have a little bit of imposter syndrome, which isn't the worst thing in the world because it doesn't allow you to get overconfident and think that you're invincible, which is really important being an entrepreneur. But I think you've proven yourself to be far from an imposter with everything you've accomplished to date and what you've been able to persevere. Do you have a question for you, Devin? Do you have any advisors or mentors around you around the table?”
2024-07-04 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Advice Line with Brett Schulman of CAVA · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT