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Brian Deese

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“I'm trying to find through them so that I give myself and we have the time to really just come down and reflect on that whole period. I mean, what we were talking about, you know, the summer of 2007 is when I jumped on the Hillary Clinton campaign. And I've been sort of sprinting ever since then. Yeah.”
2017-05-29 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 151 - Brian Deese · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“You know, I've actually been a little bit surprised myself at how Nice it has felt so far, you know, I will say part of this is I have a, you know, I have a four-year-old and a one-year-old. So I went from an environment where I wasn't sleeping a lot, you know, and was moving around a lot because of the job, and now I'm not sleeping anymore, but it's because I'm, you know, more. Engaged there. But, you know, there are moments where my wife and I look at each other and say, What comes next? What are we doing here? And I would say those, if you asked her, she'd probably give you a clearer sense of.”
2017-05-29 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 151 - Brian Deese · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, I do say that the thing that is the hardest for me now is not feeling too guilty about how nice it is to be able to take a deep breath and relax a bit and to spend time where I'm focused on my kids and my family and not feeling that constant sense that your time isn't your own. And it's an extraordinarily unspeakable privilege to get to work in the jobs that I worked in. But the single hardest thing about it is it's not even the hours, it's the lack of control. In being able to ever carve out time because you know this well Even if you can find time, you always know in the back of your head that you might lose that time and you're not able to, you know, you're not.”
2017-05-29 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 151 - Brian Deese · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, and look, and that's what you worry about when you see things like two regulations out for every one regulation in. What's the driving character of that? Because if your goal is to try to improve the business environment or improve the environment for consumers, there's no evidence to suggest that one in two out is going to get you there. Right.”
2017-05-29 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 151 - Brian Deese · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“For businesses to operate as opposed to your goal is to simply reduce the number of regulations, which is a meaningless goal because there are a lot of regulations that you can have 15 regulations, but all of them work together in a really straightforward way and they make a lot of sense and actually the businesses that rely on those long-term signals actually benefit from having those 15 regulations working together. And there can be one regulation that wasn't done in exactly the right way and causes a whole bunch of problems. And so this is the kind of thing where you need to have people and you need to have an approach within government that says, let's focus on what we care about in terms of the outcomes, which is make it easier for businesses to hire workers as long as it's consistent with.”
2017-05-29 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 151 - Brian Deese · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“There's no question that there are opportunities for us to think more coherently about the way in which we regulate and to look back and ask questions about is the way we did something five or ten or fifteen years ago really still the right way to do things. And one of the things that I was most excited about when we were in government was thinking about how to actually embed within regulations that we were doing ways of in the future checking whether the regulatory approach still made sense so that you were actually embedding that into the regulatory process. But the problem is that that is by definition has to be a nuanced approach where what you're actually trying to do is identify ways to make people's lives better and easier, make it easier.”
2017-05-29 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 151 - Brian Deese · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, and I think that it's also Orwellian from a kind of ideological standpoint. And it's just unbelievably disempowering from a practical standpoint that, yes, government often gets things wrong, but this is a playbook that we've seen in the past, which is the best way to further undermine the American people's faith in government institutions is to undercut their funding and undercut their ability to deliver, which just makes people more cynical and more frustrated. And so what I worry is that there actually is a method to this, which is if what you want to do is you want to undercut the EPA's ability to protect clean air and clean water, then going at their core enforcement capacity is a way to just so further doubt. That the federal government can actually.”
2017-05-29 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 151 - Brian Deese · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“But that, I think, is the most immediate impact that you're going to see, and that's the impact of a. Take the EPA's capacity to do its job and throw it out the window. And I think it's also reflective of leadership that doesn't seem to fundamentally believe in the mission of the EPA, that this idea that we are all better served by having overall well-being.”
2017-05-29 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 151 - Brian Deese · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Effectively monitor and force the laws that protect the air and water that our kids drink and breathe is to decimate that agency's capacity across the country so that you greatly increase the likelihood of flints happening across the country, I think is just extraordinarily damaging. That is before you get to the impact on the agency's ability to effectively address climate change.”
2017-05-29 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 151 - Brian Deese · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“What a lot of people forget is that the environmental protection agency, it's the principal footprint and the principal job that EPA officials do across the country is engagement at the community level on enforcement of laws around local air pollution and water pollution and that those are activities that EPA civil servants have been undertaking for decades and that communities rely on. And look, the EPA doesn't always get it right. And what happened in Flint is an example where you had a breakdown on multiple levels. And a lot of people ended up putting in a situation that absolutely never should have happened. But the idea that the answer to that is rather than to bolster the EPA's capacity to”
2017-05-29 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 151 - Brian Deese · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“As an economic matter, that the question of are we going to be represented at the table when China is trying to cut deals with other countries around the development of clean energy technologies or the development of nuclear technology, which has big security stakes in it as well. And so I think the argument as to why we as the United States would not want to be at that table, I get it if the argument is, well, by dint of us leaving, we could fold the table up and the picnic would be over. That would be, I think, a backward way of looking at it, but I could at least understand the argument. But that table is going to continue and the food is all laid out and everybody is ready to eat. And so just walking away, I think it principally will put the United States at an economic disadvantage.”
2017-05-29 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 151 - Brian Deese · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Is embarrassing and it sets us apart from the rest of the world as not recognizing the opportunity associated with it. But I think the biggest effects, particularly in the short term, will be putting the United States at risk and at a disadvantage because those conversations are going to go on. Those investments are going to continue. And countries are going to understand.”
2017-05-29 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 151 - Brian Deese · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And one of the things the National Intelligence Council did last fall was they put out a declassified version of their threat assessment where what they basically do is they look at climate change from an objective threat perspective and project out five years and then 20 years out what are the biggest concerns to American security associated with this? And they keyed in on this question of disease, of migration, of conflict associated with that. And the instability that that raises. And I think that you see that that work is going to continue within our defense department. So don't get me wrong. I think the impact of the United States pulling back and leaving that table, if that's what the administration decides to do, is”
2017-05-29 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 151 - Brian Deese · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I think that those costs are increasingly becoming clear too, and it's not just the sort of incoate cost of temperatures rising three or four decades out. It's increasingly people seeing costs today associated with whether it's increasing frequency of extreme weather events or it's disease vectors that are affecting places in ways that they hadn't before. And the impact of migration that at different parts of the world are looking out and saying, what's it going to mean if we have large areas of land that either sea level rise is going to affect whether they're livable or heat and drought are going to make”
2017-05-29 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 151 - Brian Deese · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, that's where I think that. The impact is not that Paris is going to go away or it's going to shrivel and die. Ironically, I think the impact is what is the impact going to be on our country and the United States if we decide to step away from the table at the same time that all these other countries and all these other industries are looking at that table as an opportunity to gain competitive advantage in this race toward cleaner energy technologies and jobs. And one of the things that always struck me, particularly working on this issue over the last year or so, is that it does have the feel of a race that both country governments and companies are projecting out and now thinking more so than they ever have before about the economic opportunities that are going to come from lower carbon trajectories. And that's true almost across the board.”
2017-05-29 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 151 - Brian Deese · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And Exxon's advocacy for the Paris Agreement was a factor when we were in Paris and we were negotiating this agreement and their commitment to re-up that support after the agreement went into effect and after the Trumpet election has been significant. And in fact, even just a week or two ago, you saw at least allegedly there was a letter that was sent by Major U.S. coal companies, executives of coal companies making the argument that the being in the Paris Agreement created the opportunity, for example, to encourage greater research on carbon capture technologies and other opportunities for coal.”
2017-05-29 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 151 - Brian Deese · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I think that the question about whether the Paris Agreement is going to go forward is actually not up for that much debate. Even in the what has been striking is even in the wake of Trump's election, you've seen every major economy other than the United States, including the UK post-Brexit, the Chinese otherwise, reasserting their commitment to moving forward on the Paris Agreement. And at this point, you've seen virtually every major U.S. company and small businesses too. But that includes those in the fossil fuel industry, making the argument for various reasons. Talk about their motives, but making the argument for why it's in the United States interest to stay engaged on this issue going forward. Rex Tilly.”
2017-05-29 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 151 - Brian Deese · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, I think that that's where budgets do matter is they set out negotiating parameters, they set out a bid and an ask. And that actually does become the playing field on which you operate.”
2017-05-29 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 151 - Brian Deese · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, and what I worry about is people getting a certain amount of Stockholm syndrome of saying, well, The idea of cutting the State Department budget by more than 30% or cutting the EPA and their enforcement capabilities by thousands and thousands of people is so bad that as and when the Congress comes back and cuts the State Department budget by only 15%.”
2017-05-29 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 151 - Brian Deese · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Common sense approach for the country. So you start with a backward sort of backward budgetary constraint, and then you apply this rule of math against that backward constraint, and you end up with a budget that is not going to get enacted. But on the other hand, I also think, and having been at OMB and worked with the team there, For a long time, it is not the case that budgets are dead on arrival and they don't have an impact. And just because that budget is not going to get enacted in the way that the administration put it forward doesn't mean that there's no impact. Can we”
2017-05-29 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 151 - Brian Deese · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Has no substance to it. So the argument that they would say is we have to hold overall discretionary spending at a certain level and we want to spend more on defense. And therefore, simple mathematical calculation, you have to cut everything other than defense. But the whole reason for holding discretionary spending at that level goes back to a thing that some people may remember called the sequester. And the Intellectual logic behind the sequester was that it was such a stupid and untenable level of spending that nobody would ever actually contemplate enacting it into law. So their argument is still down is let's start they.”
2017-05-29 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 151 - Brian Deese · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So, but within just the discretionary budget. Then the idea that you are going to have this trade-off between spending a lot more on defense and cutting domestic spending, it's politically it's not tenable because even the Republican Congress is not going to actually take that up. But subsequently, the problem with a lot of these things, a lot of the things that I think the administration is putting forward is the substantive rationale when you unpeel it.”
2017-05-29 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 151 - Brian Deese · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“At least ostensibly and social security. Now, obviously, he's intent on trying to undermine Medicaid, although that didn't go so well.”
2017-05-29 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 151 - Brian Deese · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, look, the short answer is no, but the The reason why is important, which is first of all, people keep referring to it as a skinny budget. There is a form of this as being much more fundamentally like a slacker budget because every other administration has come in and set to work to put forward a budget that actually demonstrates your priorities over a tenure horizon. And that's how we budget in this country for better or for worse. And so first things first, they put forward a very, it's very difficult to make budgetary choices if all you're showing is discretionary spending, which in and of itself is only a small share of the overall spending on mandatory programs like Social Security and Medicare and Medicaid.”
2017-05-29 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 151 - Brian Deese · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“With Republicans, even if that meant more More give and take and more compromise on the front end. And ultimately would have benefited from the normal process of coming back at a piece of legislation after a year or two and being able to modify it. And the problem is that we ended up in this dichotomy of a debate between kill Dodd-Frank, get rid of the consumer protection bureau altogether versus Democrats feeling like they needed to hold the line and say, we're not going to let you nibble away at this.”
2017-05-29 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 151 - Brian Deese · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“On the other hand, I do think it's a totally fair critique and one that applies to the Recovery Act, as we were talking about, and applies to the Affordable Care Act too, which is Dodd Frank was a deeply imperfect piece of legislation that was born out of a legislative process that would have benefited from more in collaboration. Collaboration.”
2017-05-29 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 151 - Brian Deese · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Exactly. And those two core elements are now relatively well embedded into the financial system. Yes, there is squawking and yes, there is complaint at the margin, but for the most part, our financial system is operating just fine with those protections in place. And it would be, you would expose the economy and taxpayers to an extraordinary amount of unnecessary risk to roll those back. And the only reason to do that would be to try to cater to a very narrow special interest who thinks they could benefit in the short term.”
2017-05-29 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 151 - Brian Deese · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So, look, the argument for why this is a bad idea is pretty straightforward, which is at the end of the day the core things that Dodd Frank did was require the financial system as a whole, but banks and other systemically significant firms to hold more capital against the risks that they imposed on the entire financial system, and to put in place a system where, as in if they got in trouble, they had the ability to wind themselves down without tying the entire financial system in knots and pulling the entire financial system down with it.”
2017-05-29 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 151 - Brian Deese · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, but no, but in fairness to you, you know, the team also said these deals tend to get worse, not better over time. So it was a real, it was an over-to-you boss moment”
2017-05-29 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 151 - Brian Deese · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“What to do Know to me, I was a this was one of this is my first experience in government watching the process unfold and the passion on both sides that went into doing the analysis and marshalling the arguments was just extraordinarily admirable because it was adversarial in the sense that people had strong points of view, but it was all in service of trying to provide information. To this guy who was put in a situation of making a terribly difficult decision, but better to make the decision informed with the best analysis. So That one was a tough one. I think you guys have.”
2017-05-29 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 151 - Brian Deese · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And we were actually getting the data about daily auto sales at dealerships around the country from these companies. And it was just falling off a cliff. So at that point, Ford never would have had a chance to get out of the rut and back up. And have that opportunity. So then you're looking at more than a million jobs associated with those companies and the suppliers. And then if you look at the knock-on impact, you're looking at significantly more economic impact than that. But I think that to me, the Chrysler decision is one of the more interesting example of the challenge of policymaking because Chrysler alone, the impact, was not as significant. And the president, I think, got very solid level headed arguments on both sides in terms of”
2017-05-29 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 151 - Brian Deese · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So, this is one of these challenges of policymaking in the middle of a crisis where the floor hasn't been found. Because I think under normal economic circumstances, that would have been the dynamic, which is a competitor gains market share and strength. But because of the spiraling nature of the crisis, GM goes down, Chrysler goes down, all of their top suppliers go down. That puts Ford in a position where it can't, even though it might have the potential a year or two or three down the road to pick up some of that market share. At that point, nobody's buying cars. Remember, we're in a position where auto sales, which typically run about sixteen, seventeen million a year, had fallen down below ten.”
2017-05-29 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 151 - Brian Deese · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, we looked a lot at that question, and I think that President decided to step away from both of those companies, the first thing to understand is that Ford would have gone under two because even though Ford was in a position where they had a lot more cash, They relied on the same system of suppliers to make their steering. And there was nothing.”
2017-05-29 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 151 - Brian Deese · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So we went about, we had a little bit of time because of the money that the Bush administration had put in, and we went into trying to answer that question. And the way we talked about it was we tried to answer the question of is there a shiny new GM? And what we meant by that was underneath all the debt and underneath all of the pressures associated with the crisis, was there a core company that was worth saving? And as you say, we didn't really, we had the benefit of not really being able to ask the So we just really tried to bear down on that question. It turned out the answer was easier in the case of GM, its size, its scope, its global footprint, the assets that it had made clear that there was a real potential for that, much harder in the case of crisis.”
2017-05-29 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 151 - Brian Deese · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“That was the day after we had that meeting with the president. And so we went to work immediately and said, okay, well, we're going to have to figure out some bridge or else what we're going to have when we take over is not just a failing auto industry, but we will have a failed auto industry at that point and we won't even have a chance to answer that question of was there a viable path forward?”
2017-05-29 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 151 - Brian Deese · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, and this is what made the working on this issue both so complicated and so freeing in some way, which is all of the options were political losers because the American people had gotten frustrated with the fact that these companies didn't seem to be focused on Succeeding, they seem to be focused on other issues. But it also was a but for us to get to the point to even be able to answer that question, we needed that bridge that you mentioned from the Bush administration because you talk about the arresting nature of the situation. We got a briefing in late November that said that GM was literally going to run out of money on December 17th.”
2017-05-29 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 151 - Brian Deese · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Why can't these companies make a corolla? And it'll always stick with me because I think he went immediately to the root cause problem, which was why we couldn't answer your question in the first instance, which is the challenge facing the auto companies was what economists say was both a liquidity and a solvency problem, meaning they were running out of money because the economic crisis was so acute nobody was buying cars. But underneath that, they were operating their businesses in a way that they weren't going to be able to. And Americans kind of...”
2017-05-29 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 151 - Brian Deese · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It's a podcast. I can say whatever I want. Well, shit. Holy shit moment. No, so when we first sat down with the president and laid out in very broad terms, the challenges associated with the auto industry, I always remember his reaction. We weren't asking for any decisions or anything, but his reaction was.”
2017-05-29 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 151 - Brian Deese · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“No, and frankly, at the beginning, we had a lot of questions and a lot of doubt about that. I remember the first time we sat down with the president, which was actually the president-elect, which was before that December meeting, the now famous December meeting with the presidents, oh, whatever moment was.”
2017-05-29 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 151 - Brian Deese · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, absolutely. I mean, I think that, first of all, the argument that we could have done more immediate fiscal stimulus than was politically possible to get through the Congress is compelling. But also, I think that we need to. I don't know whether it was a miscalculation or just a hope that never materialized, which was I think we always were of the view that we would be able to go back at this issue. And if the economy needed more support, that we would be able to get some help in trying to deliver on that. And while we did over the course of the first term, we did actually pass subsequent pieces of legislation, a payroll tax cut and otherwise that provided some incremental stimulus. It wasn't of the magnitude or on a timing that you would have done if your principal focus was on how to accelerate the trajectory of the recovery.”
2017-05-29 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 151 - Brian Deese · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“The Great Depression Deeper, deeper, that both in terms of the contraction in economy and the loss in wealth, we're looking at magnitudes deeper than the Great Depression. And so I think there's very little debate substantively, academically, or otherwise, that that set of actions at that time Prevented this country from falling into a catastrophic depression. The challenge politically, but also substantively, is doing better than a great depression doesn't work as a political message and as an economic matter, we did not do as much as the economy needed because we were constrained by politics. So that Those two things create a lot of debate.”
2017-05-29 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 151 - Brian Deese · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, look, I think that the objective analysts who've looked at this are pretty clear that but for that set of interventions, principally the Recovery Act and the actions by both the executive branch and the Fed to shore up the banking system, we would have been in a Great depression, and we would have experienced unemployment and GDP contraction like we've never seen. And so the counterfactual is, I think, as deep as possible.”
2017-05-29 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 151 - Brian Deese · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Now, with hindsight looking back, we were all very bleak, but we really didn't have a good feel for how bad things were. In November and December of two thousand eight, we were worried about Three, four, five hundred thousand jobs a month being lost. And we were talking about, you know, with each passing day and each passing week, we were talking about incrementally larger stimulus packages. But in some ways, we would have been even more paralyzed by fear if we completely understood.”
2017-05-29 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 151 - Brian Deese · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“The two things I remember the most are one we were so overwhelmed and so all out that you almost didn't have time to be frightened that that period from Tuesday night in Grant Park coming back in that Wednesday morning and then just being at it because there were so many it felt like there were so many things that were moving so quickly that just to try to keep up with what was happening in the financial markets, what was happening in the auto industry, what was happening in terms of the real economy and budget deficits and all of this, it was moving so quickly that I spent like every waking hour just trying to keep up. I remember that. And the second thing I remember is that”
2017-05-29 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 151 - Brian Deese · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, and so the conversation almost by definition couldn't get at that the more profound fundamental challenges in the economy. And then the general election had the potential to do that in terms of the The dynamic between the two candidates, but then the fast-moving part got so fast and so quick and so overwhelming that That immediately took all the oxygen out of the debate.”
2017-05-29 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 151 - Brian Deese · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I remember even in the election prior in 2004, I worked a little bit on the carry campaign and we were doing things like the middle class misery index. Remember back on that. You're right, it's a sort of consistent theme One of the things that was so striking about working on the primary and then on the general election is in the primary there was so much effort focused on differentiation between two candidates that were held 95% of the same policy views.”
2017-05-29 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 151 - Brian Deese · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, that's for sure. But also, I think there was an esprit decor and a cadence to that campaign and the operation that if you liked it and you were into it was pretty quick to bring people in and get people fired up. So it was actually, so one of the great things about my life at that period was just how easy it was and how easy it was to get excited about the mission that we're on, which was great because it lasted all of six weeks before the economy started to fall off a cliff.”
2017-05-29 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 151 - Brian Deese · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Economic efforts. Called as I was walking out and said, you know, okay, so is it time to talk about coming out to Chicago? And so it was a whirlwind. I mean, I literally, you know, came out without any real break. And it was a lot easier than I anticipated. I anticipated both for me, it would be difficult and also for the team that had fought and won that it would be.”
2017-05-29 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 151 - Brian Deese · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Anybody could remember. I hadn't spent six months on TV saying memorable lines in the context of the campaign. But I remember I was actually at... Then Senator Clinton's farewell speech in the building museum”
2017-05-29 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 151 - Brian Deese · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, look, I was really unfortunate to have the option to come over. And I also think I benefited also from being I was of low enough profile at that point. Most people didn't really know who I was that it was easier to integrate than somebody who had spent”
2017-05-29 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 151 - Brian Deese · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source